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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1401 » by Polk377 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:31 am

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Duh. While Biden is the puppet of big tech, Hollywood, the media and China, Donald Trump is backed by his base. He is not asking for handouts because he does not want to do any favors. Biden on the other hand will be more than happy to take everyone's money and bow down to special interest groups for his own monetary gain.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1402 » by stuporman » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:38 am

Hunter is a poor man's Jared when it come to corruption

Jared's useless 'airbridge' program costing taxpayers almost $100mil to deliver private companies PPE to the US from around the world that much of it wound up being sold internationally again all of it for private profit using US tax dollars while US hospitals went without.

"The most intriguing revelation from the report is that the Trump administration pressured private medical supply companies it was working with to buy PPE at inflated prices from a Chinese electric car and battery company called BYD, which stands for Build Your Dreams. BYD is subsidized by the Chinese government, and the committee noted that last year, Congress banned federal funds from going to electric buses made by state-owned enterprises, including BDY. Company officials told the House committee that negotiations over the BYD purchase went on for weeks, but ultimately, they refused to sign the deal pressed by the administration. During the negotiations, according to the report, BYD tried repeatedly but failed to win certification from the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) to manufacture N95 respirator masks, which can be used in medical settings. NIOSH finally approved BYD’s application on June 8 this year and is now selling masks in the US to states including California, which has a $1 billion contract with the company for 150 million masks."

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/07/house-oversight-committee-just-confirmed-jared-kushners-project-airbridge-was-a-bust/

Jared arranges to pay $52mil in taxpayer money to an UAE ruling family owned company for what are ultimately contaminated and useless Chinese tests while the country is struggling to keep up with the testing needs to contain the virus at the outset of the pandemic.

Then he puts together a 'team' which included a buddy from college to work out a nationwide testing program that had nothing come out of it while the virus raged on. Jared has also been signing contracts and starting businesses in UAE during the Trump tenure.... any connection or just 'innocent coincidence'?

"The solutions it proposed weren’t rocket science—or even comparable to the dauntingly complex undertaking of developing a new vaccine. Any national plan to address testing deficits would likely be more on the level of “replicating UPS for an industry,” said Dr. Mike Pellini, the managing partner of Section 32, a technology and health care venture capital fund. “Imagine if UPS or FedEx didn’t have infrastructure to connect all the dots. It would be complete chaos.”

The plan crafted at the White House, then, set out to connect the dots. Some of those who worked on the plan were told that it would be presented to President Trump and likely announced in the Rose Garden in early April. “I was beyond optimistic,” said one participant. “My understanding was that the final document would make its way to the president over that weekend” and would result in a “significant announcement.”

But no nationally coordinated testing strategy was ever announced. The plan, according to the participant, “just went poof into thin air.”

In a statement, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said, “The premise of this article is completely false.”

This summer has illustrated in devastating detail the human and economic cost of not launching a system of national testing, which most every other industrialized nation has done. South Korea serves as the gold standard, with innovative “phone booth” and drive-through testing sites, results that get returned within 24 hours, and supportive isolation for those who test positive, including food drop-offs.

In the U.S., by contrast, cable news and front pages have been dominated by images of miles-long lines of cars in scorching Arizona and Texas heat, their drivers waiting hours for scarce diagnostic tests, and desperate Sunbelt mayors pleading in vain for federal help to expand testing capacity. In short, a “freaking debacle,” as one top public health expert put it."


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/how-jared-kushners-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-air

Trump says China China China, how the corrupt Bidens cashing in on China yet Jared's company closes a deal to MAKE $400mii off their Manhattan building. The Chinese company will pay off the $250mil mortgage while extremely overvaluing the the property, the highest ever single building valuation in Manhattan.

Lots of other shady angles to this deal with communist party connected company.

"Anbang, a Beijing-based company with more than $250 billion in assets, is notoriously opaque. But we do know that Anbang, like many major businesses in China, is steeped in ties to the Chinese Communist Party.

Its owner, Wu Xiaohui, was able to secure a set of difficult-to-obtain licenses when he created the company in 2004, in an industry mainly populated by government-owned enterprises. He’s married to the granddaughter of Deng Xiaoping, the former iconic leader of China who helped oversee major reforms to the country’s economy in the 1980s."


https://www.vox.com/world/2017/3/15/14921720/kushner-conflict-interest-anbang?__c=1

Got room for more Chinese? Jared company puts on event in a cash for visas scheme to Chinese investors for $500k each. The arrangement goes 'invest' in presumably some sort of condo/apt in a Kushner property and get the 'investor visa' so I guess they can come to America and stay in the property.

"The debate over White House senior adviser Jared Kushner’s possible conflicts of interest picked up steam on Sunday, after the family business of President Trump’s son-in-law spent the weekend promoting an investment-for-visas scheme in Beijing and Shanghai. Nicole Kushner Meyer, Kushner’s sister, urged Chinese investors to put $500,000 into a New Jersey real-estate project in return for investor visas and residency in the U.S. Meyer cited the EB-5 immigrant investor visa program to make her pitch, though critics have accused organizers of the event of playing up their ties to the White House. “It’s incredibly stupid and highly inappropriate. They clearly imply that the Kushners are going to make sure you get your visa,” Richard Painter, the former chief White House ethics lawyer in President George W. Bush’s administration, told The Washington Post."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/05/08/kushner-companies-apologizes-after-investment-for-visas-event-in-china

This is just another one of the times Jared got caught taking foreign money through shady means....it's not a pattern or anything....naaahhhh

"Kushner, who is married to Trump’s elder daughter Ivanka, kept a stake in Cadre after joining the administration, while selling other assets. His holding is now valued at up to $50m, according to his financial disclosure documents.

Cadre’s foreign funding could create hidden conflicts of interest for Kushner as he performs his work for the US government, according to some ethics experts, who raised concerns over the lack of transparency around the investments.

“It will cause people to wonder whether he is being improperly influenced,” said Jessica Tillipman, a lecturer at George Washington University law school, who teaches government ethics and anti-corruption laws.

Kushner resigned from Cadre’s board and reduced his ownership stake to less than 25% after he joined the White House, according to his attorneys. He failed to list Cadre on his first ethics disclosure, later adding the company and saying the omission was inadvertent. Cadre says he is not actively involved in the company’s operations.

The names of the foreigners investing in Cadre via Goldman Sachs are not disclosed by the companies, which are not required to make the information public. Two sources familiar with the firm said much of the money came to the Cayman Islands vehicle from a second offshore tax haven, while some came from Saudi Arabia.

Kushner was initially denied a security clearance by career officials when he joined Trump’s administration. A whistleblower has told Congress it was blocked due to concerns about Kushner’s outside business interests and “foreign influence”. Kushner was later granted a clearance, allegedly after a Trump appointee intervened."


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/10/jared-kushner-real-estate-cadre-goldman-sachs

This is just some of them....I'm getting tired of reading through them all to post the stuff. Jared megacorruption makes Hunter's corruption look like shoplifting from the dollar store.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1403 » by Pointgod » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:06 pm

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Duh. While Biden is the puppet of big tech, Hollywood, the media and China, Donald Trump is backed by his base. He is not asking for handouts because he does not want to do any favors. Biden on the other hand will be more than happy to take everyone's money and bow down to special interest groups for his own monetary gain.


Yeah you keep believing that....

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1404 » by aq_ua » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:07 pm

US President Donald Trump has a Chinese bank account and spent years pursuing business projects in the country, the New York Times has reported.

The account is controlled by Trump International Hotels Management and paid local taxes between 2013 and 2015.

It was set up "to explore the potential for hotel deals in Asia", according to a Trump spokesman.

The newspaper's previous reports show he paid $750 (£580) in US federal taxes in 2016 and 2017, when he became president.

The Chinese bank account has paid out $188,561 in local taxes.


https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54625422

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1405 » by BKlutch » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:43 pm

frothbrain wrote:government contracts favored to the current administration's network.
groundbreaking stuff.

No.

If you want anybody to believe this, please show us the pattern of no-bid contracts given to cronies over previous administrations. Otherwise, not being a troll, you'd want to retract this.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1406 » by rajajackal » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:03 pm

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Polk377 wrote:
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Duh. While Biden is the puppet of big tech, Hollywood, the media and China, Donald Trump is backed by his base. He is not asking for handouts because he does not want to do any favors. Biden on the other hand will be more than happy to take everyone's money and bow down to special interest groups for his own monetary gain.


Yeah you keep believing that....

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the people who've convinced themselves that Trump is an outsider to corruption and moneyed interests in politics baffle me
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1407 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:51 pm

rajajackal wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Polk377 wrote:
Duh. While Biden is the puppet of big tech, Hollywood, the media and China, Donald Trump is backed by his base. He is not asking for handouts because he does not want to do any favors. Biden on the other hand will be more than happy to take everyone's money and bow down to special interest groups for his own monetary gain.


Yeah you keep believing that....

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the people who've convinced themselves that Trump is an outsider to corruption and moneyed interests in politics baffle me


Cultism suspends the self-awareness that their reasoning is completely FOS

Someone who is psychologically sound recognizes when their facts are wrong and they acknowledge their fault.

These are not people who are capable of that. IOW, they have no interest in facts and they are not of sound mind.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1408 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:52 pm

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This debate was supposed to be about foreign policy. The debate commission changed it. There's no reason for Trump to agree to the change.

The pandemic, as well as the other topics were all brought up in the Chris Wallace debate. There's no reason to do the same debate again.



Okay, I didn’t know that. Certainly foreign policy should be the focus of the debate then. It’s also important for voters to get to hear each candidate on those related issues. That said, I don’t know how he could avoid it. At least they’re giving him a heads up. If he was smart, he’d use that to and advantage and cut “s great deal” as he likes to say. Trump really squandered this crisis. If he had handled it competently and honestly, he’d probably have a shot.

I think the issue is, it is likely the "third" debate was intended to be focused around foreign policy, but since there was no "second" debate, it's questionable whether this is still the "third" debate and therefore whether the commission should have full discretion to focus the topics on areas it views as having the greatest public interest. It's fair criticism that the topics were included in the first debate - it's also fair criticism whether an actual debate on those topics actually took place during those debates, and whether foreign policy is relevant to the undecided voter (in comparison to the proposed topics of Fighting COVID-19, American families, Race in America, Climate change, National security, Leadership).

If I add my two cents to the dispute - Covid-19, climate change, national security and leadership all have an element of foreign policy embedded within those topics. Ultimately, it seems there is an opportunity to shape the discourse in whatever direction the candidates choose.

Well said. The Trump Campaign would like more direct foreign policy questions as agreed to before but yeah. Right on all counts.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1409 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:53 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
rajajackal wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Yeah you keep believing that....

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the people who've convinced themselves that Trump is an outsider to corruption and moneyed interests in politics baffle me


Cultism suspends the self-awareness that their reasoning is completely FOS

Someone who is psychologically sound recognizes when their facts are wrong and they acknowledge their fault.

These are not people who are capable of that. IOW, they have no interest in facts and they are not of sound mind.

That's as good as you can possibly explain the inexplicable.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1410 » by Pointgod » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:54 pm

rajajackal wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Polk377 wrote:
Duh. While Biden is the puppet of big tech, Hollywood, the media and China, Donald Trump is backed by his base. He is not asking for handouts because he does not want to do any favors. Biden on the other hand will be more than happy to take everyone's money and bow down to special interest groups for his own monetary gain.


Yeah you keep believing that....

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the people who've convinced themselves that Trump is an outsider to corruption and moneyed interests in politics baffle me


It’s a cult that’s why. Trust no one but dear leader. Don’t believe your eyes, ears or any trusted news sources.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1411 » by Pointgod » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:11 pm

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While the HunterBidiots do their stupid dance the NYTimes just put this out.

All of the October surprises thus far are about Donald Trump.

Why does Donald want to hide that he has a banking account in China?

Who dumped that money into his bank account that he treated as a piggy bank of thus far unreported found money in 2017?

Hmmmm?

For the intellectually challenged: All Chinese banks = The Chinese government. You bank there, the government knows it and allows it. 17M does not appear in your bank account without PRC knowledge or approval, especially for the POTUS.

Trump Records Shed New Light on Chinese Business Pursuits
As he raises questions about his opponent’s standing with China, President Trump’s taxes reveal details about his own activities there, including a previously unknown bank account.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/trump-taxes-china.htm

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And it turns out that China is one of only three foreign nations — the others are Britain and Ireland — where Mr. Trump maintains a bank account, according to an analysis of the president’s tax records, which were obtained by The New York Times. The foreign accounts do not show up on Mr. Trump’s public financial disclosures, where he must list personal assets, because they are held under corporate names. The identities of the financial institutions are not clear.


Mr. Garten would not identify the bank in China where the account is held. Until last year, China’s biggest state-controlled bank rented three floors in Trump Tower, a lucrative lease that drew accusations of a conflict of interest for the president.


But Mr. Trump’s plans in China have been largely driven by a different company, Trump International Hotels Management — the one with a Chinese bank account.

The company has direct ownership of THC China Development, but is also involved in management of other Trump-branded properties around the world, and it is not possible to discern from its tax records how much of its financial activity is China-related. It normally reports a few million dollars in annual income and deductible expenses.

In 2017, the company reported an unusually large spike in revenue — some $17.5 million, more than the previous five years’ combined. It was accompanied by a $15.1 million withdrawal by Mr. Trump from the company’s capital account.


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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1412 » by Fury » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:39 pm

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Duh. While Biden is the puppet of big tech, Hollywood, the media and China, Donald Trump is backed by his base. He is not asking for handouts because he does not want to do any favors. Biden on the other hand will be more than happy to take everyone's money and bow down to special interest groups for his own monetary gain.


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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1413 » by Kampuchea » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:14 pm

Poll that predicted Trump win in 2016 finds him closing gap with Biden

We need this election to be over while Biden still holds the lead. They say this was one of the few that correctly predicted 2016.


A poll credited with being one of the only accurate national surveys in 2016 has found a sudden tightening in the race between President Trump and Democratic challenger Joe Biden.

The Investor’s Business Daily tracking poll results released Tuesday have Biden ahead nationally by just 2.3 percentage points, at 48.1 percent to Trump’s 45.8 percent among likely voters.

The daily poll, which includes Green and Libertarian candidates, launched on Oct. 12 and has found increasing support for Trump and decreasing support for Biden going into Nov. 3’s Election Day.

Just a week ago, on Oct. 13, the poll found Biden sailing with an 8.6 percentage-point lead.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/poll-that-predicted-trump-win-in-2016-finds-him-closing-gap-with-biden/
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1414 » by Kampuchea » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:21 pm

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5G licensing has been a matter of intense international scrutiny for very obvious security reasons. Bypassing protocols for bidding on government contracts to just give it to your buddies is NOT normal. Pretending it is means you endorse corruption and don't care as long as it is your team.

All security related discussion around 5G has been about foreign vendors, specifically Huawei.


5G licensing has been a matter of intense international scrutiny for very obvious security reasons. Bypassing protocols for bidding on government contracts to just give it to your buddies is NOT normal. Pretending it is means you endorse corruption and don't care as long as it is your team.


There is no way this contract should be given without bids and to argue otherwise (@frothbrain) is absurd.

Didn't he already do this with the Wall contract?

https://www.reed.senate.gov/news/releases/reed-statement-on-trump-administration-awarding-a-new-no-bid-569-million-border-wall-contract-gao-commits-to-investigate
As federal resources are desperately needed to combat the novel coronavirus (COVID-19), bolster public health, and assist small businesses, the Trump Administration is awarding a $569 million no-bid contract to an apparently politically-connected, private contractor


These stories should get much more public attention, to Trump and his crew corruptly lining their own and their friends' pockets.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1415 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:54 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:I presume you've all read the latest news on New Yorker journalist and CNN legal analyst, Jeffrey Toobin and his ... eh hem ... Zoom call?


Toobin went boom boom in the zoom zoom


I knew there was something there.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1416 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:57 pm

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Rasmussen himself knows the deal


I wouldn't trust anything he has to say. Biden's lead is way too great to be attributed just to that. Maybe if you could go around planting them in specific crucial counties in the key battleground states, maybe. I'd have to see some peer review.

I'm pretty sure that's the same damn number you guys got in 2016. But go on.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1417 » by GONYK » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:11 pm

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1418 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:12 pm

robillionaire wrote:there is an epistemic gulf in this country, I have said before that the US us having an epistemological crisis, we live in completely different realities with tribal sources of media and facts, so at the end of the day there is no conversation to be had with people in the opposite tribe, they have their own sets of facts and perspective of reality and none of us will likely ever have a common ground discussion with one another ever again because we have no semblance of a common neutral arbiter of what facts to believe anymore. the GOP has their own media, their own science, they have rejected all the institutions that once were accepted as being credible, this is a permanent impasse that the country will never heal from. So it's only reasonable that nobody believes them and they will never believe anything coming from a source they don't subscribe to. Our perception of the world around us is radically different to the point we are alien to one another and personally I don't know how long this can remain a country which is why I think we need to be looking more seriously at secession and balkanization

You guys get all the blue areas, we get all the red. Seems simple enough.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1419 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:16 pm

Kampuchea wrote:I told y’all this was a problem :banghead:

It’s impacting polls.


https://nypost.com/2020/10/19/john-ratcliffe-info-on-hunter-biden-laptop-not-russian-disinformation/

“Hunter Biden’s laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign,” Ratcliffe said.

“Let me be clear: The intelligence community doesn’t believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that. And we have shared no intelligence with Adam Schiff, or any member of Congress,” he said.

It's a feature not a bug. Perspective.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1420 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:23 pm

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frothbrain wrote:Hunter is going to sink Biden's campaign if these CP charges come to light.
Public opinion will change regarding Biden's character if his son is a pedo. Fair or not, people hold parents responsible for their children's actions.

This plus whatever dirt Cooney spilled on Hunter to get released from prison.


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but but but.... Glenny Greenwald said it was legit.

Of course it's legit. It's absolutely hilarious people here think it's some Russian BS. Neither Joe or Hunter has denied the contents. Let's not be totally **** naive here.

Hunter Biden signed the receipt.
Hunter Bidens lawyer asked for the laptop back.

Unless Hunter Biden is a Russian Agent, which is entirely possible based on what's known so far with the payoffs, then it's legit not Russian disinfo or Hunter set himself up with some child porn featuring his 14 year old cousin while he smoked crack.

Bold strategy Cotton, let's see how it works out for him.

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