2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch

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Hey Rudy!

Spoiler:

It's a Trap!

Borat for the win!

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This is who is presently running the White House

They are all criminals

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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Go Borat!

[robillionaire]

there is an epistemic gulf in this country, I have said before that the US us having an epistemological crisis, we live in completely different realities with tribal sources of media and facts, so at the end of the day there is no conversation to be had with people in the opposite tribe, they have their own sets of facts and perspective of reality and none of us will likely ever have a common ground discussion with one another ever again because we have no semblance of a common neutral arbiter of what facts to believe anymore. the GOP has their own media, their own science, they have rejected all the institutions that once were accepted as being credible, this is a permanent impasse that the country will never heal from. So it's only reasonable that nobody believes them and they will never believe anything coming from a source they don't subscribe to. Our perception of the world around us is radically different to the point we are alien to one another and personally I don't know how long this can remain a country which is why I think we need to be looking more seriously at secession and balkanization

You guys get all the blue areas, we get all the red. Seems simple enough.

no deal. land doesn't vote. you lost the popular vote. there are millions more of us. you are an unpopular minority yielding a disproportionate amount of power over an increasingly annoyed majority

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This theme keeps popping up

[BKlutch]

Hunter is a poor man's Jared when it come to corruption

Jared's useless 'airbridge' program costing taxpayers almost $100mil to deliver private companies PPE to the US from around the world that much of it wound up being sold internationally again all of it for private profit using US tax dollars while US hospitals went without.

"The most intriguing revelation from the report is that the Trump administration pressured private medical supply companies it was working with to buy PPE at inflated prices from a Chinese electric car and battery company called BYD, which stands for Build Your Dreams. BYD is subsidized by the Chinese government, and the committee noted that last year, Congress banned federal funds from going to electric buses made by state-owned enterprises, including BDY. Company officials told the House committee that negotiations over the BYD purchase went on for weeks, but ultimately, they refused to sign the deal pressed by the administration. During the negotiations, according to the report, BYD tried repeatedly but failed to win certification from the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) to manufacture N95 respirator masks, which can be used in medical settings. NIOSH finally approved BYD’s application on June 8 this year and is now selling masks in the US to states including California, which has a $1 billion contract with the company for 150 million masks."

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/07/house-oversight-committee-just-confirmed-jared-kushners-project-airbridge-was-a-bust/

Jared arranges to pay $52mil in taxpayer money to an UAE ruling family owned company for what are ultimately contaminated and useless Chinese tests while the country is struggling to keep up with the testing needs to contain the virus at the outset of the pandemic.

Then he puts together a 'team' which included a buddy from college to work out a nationwide testing program that had nothing come out of it while the virus raged on. Jared has also been signing contracts and starting businesses in UAE during the Trump tenure.... any connection or just 'innocent coincidence'?

"The solutions it proposed weren’t rocket science—or even comparable to the dauntingly complex undertaking of developing a new vaccine. Any national plan to address testing deficits would likely be more on the level of “replicating UPS for an industry,” said Dr. Mike Pellini, the managing partner of Section 32, a technology and health care venture capital fund. “Imagine if UPS or FedEx didn’t have infrastructure to connect all the dots. It would be complete chaos.”

The plan crafted at the White House, then, set out to connect the dots. Some of those who worked on the plan were told that it would be presented to President Trump and likely announced in the Rose Garden in early April. “I was beyond optimistic,” said one participant. “My understanding was that the final document would make its way to the president over that weekend” and would result in a “significant announcement.”

But no nationally coordinated testing strategy was ever announced. The plan, according to the participant, “just went poof into thin air.”

In a statement, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said, “The premise of this article is completely false.”

This summer has illustrated in devastating detail the human and economic cost of not launching a system of national testing, which most every other industrialized nation has done. South Korea serves as the gold standard, with innovative “phone booth” and drive-through testing sites, results that get returned within 24 hours, and supportive isolation for those who test positive, including food drop-offs.

In the U.S., by contrast, cable news and front pages have been dominated by images of miles-long lines of cars in scorching Arizona and Texas heat, their drivers waiting hours for scarce diagnostic tests, and desperate Sunbelt mayors pleading in vain for federal help to expand testing capacity. In short, a “freaking debacle,” as one top public health expert put it."

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/how-jared-kushners-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-air

Trump says China China China, how the corrupt Bidens cashing in on China yet Jared's company closes a deal to MAKE $400mii off their Manhattan building. The Chinese company will pay off the $250mil mortgage while extremely overvaluing the the property, the highest ever single building valuation in Manhattan.

Lots of other shady angles to this deal with communist party connected company.

"Anbang, a Beijing-based company with more than $250 billion in assets, is notoriously opaque. But we do know that Anbang, like many major businesses in China, is steeped in ties to the Chinese Communist Party.

Its owner, Wu Xiaohui, was able to secure a set of difficult-to-obtain licenses when he created the company in 2004, in an industry mainly populated by government-owned enterprises. He’s married to the granddaughter of Deng Xiaoping, the former iconic leader of China who helped oversee major reforms to the country’s economy in the 1980s."

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/3/15/14921720/kushner-conflict-interest-anbang?__c=1

Got room for more Chinese? Jared company puts on event in a cash for visas scheme to Chinese investors for $500k each. The arrangement goes 'invest' in presumably some sort of condo/apt in a Kushner property and get the 'investor visa' so I guess they can come to America and stay in the property.

"The debate over White House senior adviser Jared Kushner’s possible conflicts of interest picked up steam on Sunday, after the family business of President Trump’s son-in-law spent the weekend promoting an investment-for-visas scheme in Beijing and Shanghai. Nicole Kushner Meyer, Kushner’s sister, urged Chinese investors to put $500,000 into a New Jersey real-estate project in return for investor visas and residency in the U.S. Meyer cited the EB-5 immigrant investor visa program to make her pitch, though critics have accused organizers of the event of playing up their ties to the White House. “It’s incredibly stupid and highly inappropriate. They clearly imply that the Kushners are going to make sure you get your visa,” Richard Painter, the former chief White House ethics lawyer in President George W. Bush’s administration, told The Washington Post."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/05/08/kushner-companies-apologizes-after-investment-for-visas-event-in-china

This is just another one of the times Jared got caught taking foreign money through shady means....it's not a pattern or anything....naaahhhh

"Kushner, who is married to Trump’s elder daughter Ivanka, kept a stake in Cadre after joining the administration, while selling other assets. His holding is now valued at up to $50m, according to his financial disclosure documents.

Cadre’s foreign funding could create hidden conflicts of interest for Kushner as he performs his work for the US government, according to some ethics experts, who raised concerns over the lack of transparency around the investments.

“It will cause people to wonder whether he is being improperly influenced,” said Jessica Tillipman, a lecturer at George Washington University law school, who teaches government ethics and anti-corruption laws.

Kushner resigned from Cadre’s board and reduced his ownership stake to less than 25% after he joined the White House, according to his attorneys. He failed to list Cadre on his first ethics disclosure, later adding the company and saying the omission was inadvertent. Cadre says he is not actively involved in the company’s operations.

The names of the foreigners investing in Cadre via Goldman Sachs are not disclosed by the companies, which are not required to make the information public. Two sources familiar with the firm said much of the money came to the Cayman Islands vehicle from a second offshore tax haven, while some came from Saudi Arabia.

Kushner was initially denied a security clearance by career officials when he joined Trump’s administration. A whistleblower has told Congress it was blocked due to concerns about Kushner’s outside business interests and “foreign influence”. Kushner was later granted a clearance, allegedly after a Trump appointee intervened."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/10/jared-kushner-real-estate-cadre-goldman-sachs

This is just some of them....I'm getting tired of reading through them all to post the stuff. Jared megacorruption makes Hunter's corruption look like shoplifting from the dollar store.

Thanks for putting in all the work on this. I know it must be tedious. Given all of the official (and Republican led) investigations into Hunter, I don't think there's any reason to believe Rudy's last minute harangues unless he's able to support them with legitimate, credible proof. And of course, honest folks wouldn't really accept the story as written in The Post - other Post writers have disavowed it already, and this has been very clearly debunked.

People who push this kind of thing without looking at the debunking clearly don't want to get to the truth, but hope to either convince people who don't have the knowledge or energy to look for the truth. They also want their non-critical followers to feel empowered — even if wrongly — so they are more excited about voting.

So now, there are a few other things that are on the table (for certain people):
Alien DNA
Pedophile Dems eating babies at that pizzaria
Leslie Stahl conspiring to damage Trump by asking actual questions
Antifa Army Invading suburbia
Clyde Style in bed with Hillary at the pizzeria

And so many others.

[Jalen Bluntson]

So....everything about Hunter Bidens laptop is fake news? I can't anymore. Anything damaging against either side is fake news. Everyone claims this. So what isn't fake news?

The only people who yell fake news are Trumpers. It insulates them when they keep pumping out fake news, because then when somebody says "Fake News" about them they pretend the shoe is on the other foot, thus Aha! you're doing it too! when in fact that is exactly what is not happening.

What is happening is Giuliani is a rogue operative who directly worked with a well-known Kremlin operative to plant fake evidence. That's fake news.

Reporting on Giuliani planting fake news is the actual news.

There is a difference

What fake news is Giuliani reporting? I'm lost trying to keep up with these criminals!

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Hey Rudy!

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Borat for the win!

I'm sure QAnon will be very pissed about this, yes?

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but but but.... Glenny Greenwald said it was legit.

Of course it's legit. It's absolutely hilarious people here think it's some Russian BS. Neither Joe or Hunter has denied the contents. Let's not be totally **** naive here.

Hunter Biden signed the receipt.
Hunter Bidens lawyer asked for the laptop back.

Unless Hunter Biden is a Russian Agent, which is entirely possible based on what's known so far with the payoffs, then it's legit not Russian disinfo or Hunter set himself up with some child porn featuring his 14 year old cousin while he smoked crack.

Bold strategy Cotton, let's see how it works out for him.

This scenario has already been thoroughly investigated. It's not like the laptop is some new detail that just came up two weeks ago. Why speak on the same allegation over and over again when even a majority of the Republicans are done looking into it? Grasping for another Comey moment looks real desperate at this point. The Trump campaign swears they are so confident in his policy, but they turn around and run on Hunter Biden. I'm curious to see how that works out for them.

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People in PA (a state Trump can't win without) sure don't care about Hunter Biden

[Jalen Bluntson]

Hunter is a poor man's Jared when it come to corruption

Jared's useless 'airbridge' program costing taxpayers almost $100mil to deliver private companies PPE to the US from around the world that much of it wound up being sold internationally again all of it for private profit using US tax dollars while US hospitals went without.

"The most intriguing revelation from the report is that the Trump administration pressured private medical supply companies it was working with to buy PPE at inflated prices from a Chinese electric car and battery company called BYD, which stands for Build Your Dreams. BYD is subsidized by the Chinese government, and the committee noted that last year, Congress banned federal funds from going to electric buses made by state-owned enterprises, including BDY. Company officials told the House committee that negotiations over the BYD purchase went on for weeks, but ultimately, they refused to sign the deal pressed by the administration. During the negotiations, according to the report, BYD tried repeatedly but failed to win certification from the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) to manufacture N95 respirator masks, which can be used in medical settings. NIOSH finally approved BYD’s application on June 8 this year and is now selling masks in the US to states including California, which has a $1 billion contract with the company for 150 million masks."

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/07/house-oversight-committee-just-confirmed-jared-kushners-project-airbridge-was-a-bust/

Jared arranges to pay $52mil in taxpayer money to an UAE ruling family owned company for what are ultimately contaminated and useless Chinese tests while the country is struggling to keep up with the testing needs to contain the virus at the outset of the pandemic.

Then he puts together a 'team' which included a buddy from college to work out a nationwide testing program that had nothing come out of it while the virus raged on. Jared has also been signing contracts and starting businesses in UAE during the Trump tenure.... any connection or just 'innocent coincidence'?

"The solutions it proposed weren’t rocket science—or even comparable to the dauntingly complex undertaking of developing a new vaccine. Any national plan to address testing deficits would likely be more on the level of “replicating UPS for an industry,” said Dr. Mike Pellini, the managing partner of Section 32, a technology and health care venture capital fund. “Imagine if UPS or FedEx didn’t have infrastructure to connect all the dots. It would be complete chaos.”

The plan crafted at the White House, then, set out to connect the dots. Some of those who worked on the plan were told that it would be presented to President Trump and likely announced in the Rose Garden in early April. “I was beyond optimistic,” said one participant. “My understanding was that the final document would make its way to the president over that weekend” and would result in a “significant announcement.”

But no nationally coordinated testing strategy was ever announced. The plan, according to the participant, “just went poof into thin air.”

In a statement, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said, “The premise of this article is completely false.”

This summer has illustrated in devastating detail the human and economic cost of not launching a system of national testing, which most every other industrialized nation has done. South Korea serves as the gold standard, with innovative “phone booth” and drive-through testing sites, results that get returned within 24 hours, and supportive isolation for those who test positive, including food drop-offs.

In the U.S., by contrast, cable news and front pages have been dominated by images of miles-long lines of cars in scorching Arizona and Texas heat, their drivers waiting hours for scarce diagnostic tests, and desperate Sunbelt mayors pleading in vain for federal help to expand testing capacity. In short, a “freaking debacle,” as one top public health expert put it."

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/how-jared-kushners-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-air

Trump says China China China, how the corrupt Bidens cashing in on China yet Jared's company closes a deal to MAKE $400mii off their Manhattan building. The Chinese company will pay off the $250mil mortgage while extremely overvaluing the the property, the highest ever single building valuation in Manhattan.

Lots of other shady angles to this deal with communist party connected company.

"Anbang, a Beijing-based company with more than $250 billion in assets, is notoriously opaque. But we do know that Anbang, like many major businesses in China, is steeped in ties to the Chinese Communist Party.

Its owner, Wu Xiaohui, was able to secure a set of difficult-to-obtain licenses when he created the company in 2004, in an industry mainly populated by government-owned enterprises. He’s married to the granddaughter of Deng Xiaoping, the former iconic leader of China who helped oversee major reforms to the country’s economy in the 1980s."

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/3/15/14921720/kushner-conflict-interest-anbang?__c=1

Got room for more Chinese? Jared company puts on event in a cash for visas scheme to Chinese investors for $500k each. The arrangement goes 'invest' in presumably some sort of condo/apt in a Kushner property and get the 'investor visa' so I guess they can come to America and stay in the property.

"The debate over White House senior adviser Jared Kushner’s possible conflicts of interest picked up steam on Sunday, after the family business of President Trump’s son-in-law spent the weekend promoting an investment-for-visas scheme in Beijing and Shanghai. Nicole Kushner Meyer, Kushner’s sister, urged Chinese investors to put $500,000 into a New Jersey real-estate project in return for investor visas and residency in the U.S. Meyer cited the EB-5 immigrant investor visa program to make her pitch, though critics have accused organizers of the event of playing up their ties to the White House. “It’s incredibly stupid and highly inappropriate. They clearly imply that the Kushners are going to make sure you get your visa,” Richard Painter, the former chief White House ethics lawyer in President George W. Bush’s administration, told The Washington Post."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/05/08/kushner-companies-apologizes-after-investment-for-visas-event-in-china

This is just another one of the times Jared got caught taking foreign money through shady means....it's not a pattern or anything....naaahhhh

"Kushner, who is married to Trump’s elder daughter Ivanka, kept a stake in Cadre after joining the administration, while selling other assets. His holding is now valued at up to $50m, according to his financial disclosure documents.

Cadre’s foreign funding could create hidden conflicts of interest for Kushner as he performs his work for the US government, according to some ethics experts, who raised concerns over the lack of transparency around the investments.

“It will cause people to wonder whether he is being improperly influenced,” said Jessica Tillipman, a lecturer at George Washington University law school, who teaches government ethics and anti-corruption laws.

Kushner resigned from Cadre’s board and reduced his ownership stake to less than 25% after he joined the White House, according to his attorneys. He failed to list Cadre on his first ethics disclosure, later adding the company and saying the omission was inadvertent. Cadre says he is not actively involved in the company’s operations.

The names of the foreigners investing in Cadre via Goldman Sachs are not disclosed by the companies, which are not required to make the information public. Two sources familiar with the firm said much of the money came to the Cayman Islands vehicle from a second offshore tax haven, while some came from Saudi Arabia.

Kushner was initially denied a security clearance by career officials when he joined Trump’s administration. A whistleblower has told Congress it was blocked due to concerns about Kushner’s outside business interests and “foreign influence”. Kushner was later granted a clearance, allegedly after a Trump appointee intervened."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/10/jared-kushner-real-estate-cadre-goldman-sachs

This is just some of them....I'm getting tired of reading through them all to post the stuff. Jared megacorruption makes Hunter's corruption look like shoplifting from the dollar store.

Thanks for putting in all the work on this. I know it must be tedious. Given all of the official (and Republican led) investigations into Hunter, I don't think there's any reason to believe Rudy's last minute harangues unless he's able to support them with legitimate, credible proof. And of course, honest folks wouldn't really accept the story as written in The Post - other Post writers have disavowed it already, and this has been very clearly debunked.

People who push this kind of thing without looking at the debunking clearly don't want to get to the truth, but hope to either convince people who don't have the knowledge or energy to look for the truth. They also want their non-critical followers to feel empowered — even if wrongly — so they are more excited about voting.

So now, there are a few other things that are on the table (for certain people):
Alien DNA
Pedophile Dems eating babies at that pizzaria
Leslie Stahl conspiring to damage Trump by asking actual questions
Antifa Army Invading suburbia
Clyde Style in bed with Hillary at the pizzeria

And so many others.

Without revealing my sauce...I confirn the Clyde/Hillary one to be true.

[BallSacBounce]

Poll that predicted Trump win in 2016 finds him closing gap with Biden

We need this election to be over while Biden still holds the lead. They say this was one of the few that correctly predicted 2016.

A poll credited with being one of the only accurate national surveys in 2016 has found a sudden tightening in the race between President Trump and Democratic challenger Joe Biden.

The Investor’s Business Daily tracking poll results released Tuesday have Biden ahead nationally by just 2.3 percentage points, at 48.1 percent to Trump’s 45.8 percent among likely voters.

The daily poll, which includes Green and Libertarian candidates, launched on Oct. 12 and has found increasing support for Trump and decreasing support for Biden going into Nov. 3’s Election Day.

Just a week ago, on Oct. 13, the poll found Biden sailing with an 8.6 percentage-point lead.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/poll-that-predicted-trump-win-in-2016-finds-him-closing-gap-with-biden/

Trafalgar was another one that got it right last go around. The only one to get Michigan right. They have Trump ahead by two points nationally.

They're saying the hidden Trump Voter is twice as large as 2016.Republican new registrations have outpaced Democrats in a lot of battlegrounds I know PA and FL for sure. There is a lot of excitement in the air to get out and vote for Trump.

[Clyde_Style]

So....everything about Hunter Bidens laptop is fake news? I can't anymore. Anything damaging against either side is fake news. Everyone claims this. So what isn't fake news?

The only people who yell fake news are Trumpers. It insulates them when they keep pumping out fake news, because then when somebody says "Fake News" about them they pretend the shoe is on the other foot, thus Aha! you're doing it too! when in fact that is exactly what is not happening.

What is happening is Giuliani is a rogue operative who directly worked with a well-known Kremlin operative to plant fake evidence. That's fake news.

Reporting on Giuliani planting fake news is the actual news.

There is a difference

What fake news is Giuliani reporting? I'm lost trying to keep up with these criminals!

He doctored a laptop with the assistance of a known kremlin operative. It is BS

[BallSacBounce]

there is an epistemic gulf in this country, I have said before that the US us having an epistemological crisis, we live in completely different realities with tribal sources of media and facts, so at the end of the day there is no conversation to be had with people in the opposite tribe, they have their own sets of facts and perspective of reality and none of us will likely ever have a common ground discussion with one another ever again because we have no semblance of a common neutral arbiter of what facts to believe anymore. the GOP has their own media, their own science, they have rejected all the institutions that once were accepted as being credible, this is a permanent impasse that the country will never heal from. So it's only reasonable that nobody believes them and they will never believe anything coming from a source they don't subscribe to. Our perception of the world around us is radically different to the point we are alien to one another and personally I don't know how long this can remain a country which is why I think we need to be looking more seriously at secession and balkanization

You guys get all the blue areas, we get all the red. Seems simple enough.

no deal. land doesn't vote. you lost the popular vote. there are millions more of us. you are an unpopular minority yielding a disproportionate amount of power over an increasingly annoyed majority

You are packed into cities. We rule the rest. That's the deal. Take it or leave it.

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Hey Rudy!

Spoiler:

It's a Trap!

Borat for the win!

I'm sure QAnon will be very pissed about this, yes?

Not likely.

If you understand how these things work, then it should have been obvious to you that Rudy was reaching into his pants to activate a recording device meant to entrap a rogue Kazhakstanian undercover operative

[robillionaire]

You guys get all the blue areas, we get all the red. Seems simple enough.

no deal. land doesn't vote. you lost the popular vote. there are millions more of us. you are an unpopular minority yielding a disproportionate amount of power over an increasingly annoyed majority

You are packed into cities. We rule the rest. That's the deal. Take it or leave it.

I guess we will just have to continue to deal with each other then.

[GONYK]

Hey Rudy!

Spoiler:

It's a Trap!

Borat for the win!

I'm sure QAnon will be very pissed about this, yes?

Not likely.

If you understand how these things work, then it should have been obvious to you that Rudy was reaching into his pants to activate a recording device meant to entrap a rogue Kazhakstanian undercover operative

Clearly

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[Clyde_Style]

I'm sure QAnon will be very pissed about this, yes?

Not likely.

If you understand how these things work, then it should have been obvious to you that Rudy was reaching into his pants to activate a recording device meant to entrap a rogue Kazhakstanian undercover operative

Clearly

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Rudy has turned into Danny DeVito's masturbating Penguin

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Duh. While Biden is the puppet of big tech, Hollywood, the media and China, Donald Trump is backed by his base. He is not asking for handouts because he does not want to do any favors. Biden on the other hand will be more than happy to take everyone's money and bow down to special interest groups for his own monetary gain.

Yeah you keep believing that....

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If it were true that Trump is only supported by grassroots supporters, having that little cash on hand would suggest that Trump doesn't have many supporters.