2020 NBA Draft - We have a FRP!....for now

[RexBoyWonder]

If BPA is much better than need, we shouldn't draft for need. Also, another good defensive guard is one of our needs.

I totally agree with BPA with a pick in the top 10, or with a rebuilding team.

But we're all in, win now mode next 3 years. So unless the player drafted can somehow fit and get on the court to be helpful soon, I don't think it makes sense to pick a Bam clone or a Robinson clone, even if he might be BPA. We won't have the room to give them a real chance to develop. So at #20, BPA might become a role-less role player.

[twix2500]

If BPA is much better than need, we shouldn't draft for need. Also, another good defensive guard is one of our needs.

I totally agree with BPA with a pick in the top 10, or with a rebuilding team.

But we're all in, win now mode next 3 years. So unless the player drafted can somehow fit and get on the court to be helpful soon, I don't think it makes sense to pick a Bam clone or a Robinson clone, even if he might be BPA. We won't have the room to give them a real chance to develop. So at #20, BPA might become a role-less role player.

I agree with REX, I think they are still in BPA situation. One reason is we should expect roster change via trade eventually. So the need today may not be the need tomorrow. I know some expect the Heat to just sit and wait for Giannis. I know all the conspiracies about Heat knowing for years they we were getting the Bosh and James. That is not true, Heat had a deal in place with Amare but he wouldn't agree to resign if trafed for. Very close to getting Odom back and Boozer. Riley didn't ignore possible moves before the big three, doubt Giannis alone will change that. A yr ago the Heat tried to get Paul and Wesbrook.

Second I do not believe the Heat are in position to draft a player who going to start. Do we really believe a rookie is going to come in and beat out our top 10 players that currently on the roster? Is there a player who is mentally developed and physically developed enough to be trusted with significant minutes at 20. Oturu may be physically developed enough but is he mentally? Maxey i think is more in the KZ scenario. Terry? He definitely small, is he mentally developed enough?

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[radikalBaller]

The more I watch Oturu tape, the more I realize how good his defensive awaremess and post craftiness are. Def one of the top 2 way big in this draft...his jumpshot looks good too as his passing...underated...

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[twix2500]

The more I watch Oturu tape, the more I realize how good his defensive awaremess and post craftiness are. Def one of the top 2 way big in this draft...his jumpshot looks good too as his passing...underated...

Let me know what you see...

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I like him. I think he has a lot of excellent tools offensively. Mobile and strong

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[Feel_the_Heat15]

The more I watch Oturu tape, the more I realize how good his defensive awaremess and post craftiness are. Def one of the top 2 way big in this draft...his jumpshot looks good too as his passing...underated...

Let me know what you see...

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Just not big enough or skilled enough for me to draft him at 20. Centers are rarely involved on offense these days.

[twix2500]

The more I watch Oturu tape, the more I realize how good his defensive awaremess and post craftiness are. Def one of the top 2 way big in this draft...his jumpshot looks good too as his passing...underated...

Let me know what you see...

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Just not big enough or skilled enough for me to draft him at 20. Centers are rarely involved on offense these days.

Well the Heat uses their centers at a high rate.

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[Feel_the_Heat15]

The more I watch Oturu tape, the more I realize how good his defensive awaremess and post craftiness are. Def one of the top 2 way big in this draft...his jumpshot looks good too as his passing...underated...

Let me know what you see...

Watch on YouTube

Just not big enough or skilled enough for me to draft him at 20. Centers are rarely involved on offense these days.

Well the Heat uses their centers at a high rate.

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Olynyk can shoot and Bam is one of the best playmaking bigs in the NBA.

[twix2500]

Just not big enough or skilled enough for me to draft him at 20. Centers are rarely involved on offense these days.

Well the Heat uses their centers at a high rate.

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Olynyk can shoot and Bam is one of the best playmaking bigs in the NBA.

Exactly, they both have their own different skill sets that the Heat utilizes at a high rate at the center position. So you telling me Oturu can not have a skill set that Spo utilizes at the center position?

Oturu is not a solely low post big. He plays on on the perimeter as well.

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[HeatingUp3]

I like smith better. If we keep the pick i hope its him

[twix2500]

Well the Heat uses their centers at a high rate.

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Olynyk can shoot and Bam is one of the best playmaking bigs in the NBA.

Exactly, they both have their own different skill sets that the Heat utilizes at a high rate at the center position. So you telling me Oturu can not have a skill set that Spo utilizes at the center position?

Oturu is not a solely low post big. He plays on on the perimeter as well.

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Oturu also has more natural scoring skill set than both Bam and Olynyk

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[radikalBaller]

I like smith better. If we keep the pick i hope its him

I need to find out more about smith but in their matchup, Oturu ws eating smith alive, Oturu outplayed almost any center they put in front of him

[Feel_the_Heat15]

Well the Heat uses their centers at a high rate.

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Olynyk can shoot and Bam is one of the best playmaking bigs in the NBA.

Exactly, they both have their own different skill sets that the Heat utilizes at a high rate at the center position. So you telling me Oturu can not have a skill set that Spo utilizes at the center position?

Oturu is not a solely low post big. He plays on on the perimeter as well.

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Just because Oturu averaged 2 3PA a game in college doesn't mean he "plays on the perimeter". Why would we draft him over Flynn who's more likely to be an above average player at his position than Oturu?

[twix2500]

Olynyk can shoot and Bam is one of the best playmaking bigs in the NBA.

Exactly, they both have their own different skill sets that the Heat utilizes at a high rate at the center position. So you telling me Oturu can not have a skill set that Spo utilizes at the center position?

Oturu is not a solely low post big. He plays on on the perimeter as well.

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Just because Oturu averaged 2 3PA a game in college doesn't mean he "plays on the perimeter". Why would we draft him over Flynn who's more likely to be an above average player at his position than Oturu?

No brother he played out on the perimeter. He stretched out there on set plays. Defenders had to step out there to Defend him because he can knock down jumper from the 3 and midrange. When defenders stepped out he was capable of putting the ball on the floor and take his man. He was a 20 point scorer because of his versatility at scoring. He is not a one trick pony at scoring.

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[twix2500]

Olynyk can shoot and Bam is one of the best playmaking bigs in the NBA.

Exactly, they both have their own different skill sets that the Heat utilizes at a high rate at the center position. So you telling me Oturu can not have a skill set that Spo utilizes at the center position?

Oturu is not a solely low post big. He plays on on the perimeter as well.

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Just because Oturu averaged 2 3PA a game in college doesn't mean he "plays on the perimeter". Why would we draft him over Flynn who's more likely to be an above average player at his position than Oturu?

What exactly do you not like about Oturu? What is his weakness that has you so concerned?

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[twix2500]

I like smith better. If we keep the pick i hope its him

I need to find out more about smith but in their matchup, Oturu ws eating smith alive, Oturu outplayed almost any center they put in front of him

Exactly,

He has the same measurements as Bam. Might be a little bigger. I like his high release which makes his jumper capable of shooting over taller centers.

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[Feel_the_Heat15]

Exactly, they both have their own different skill sets that the Heat utilizes at a high rate at the center position. So you telling me Oturu can not have a skill set that Spo utilizes at the center position?

Oturu is not a solely low post big. He plays on on the perimeter as well.

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Just because Oturu averaged 2 3PA a game in college doesn't mean he "plays on the perimeter". Why would we draft him over Flynn who's more likely to be an above average player at his position than Oturu?

What exactly do you not like about Oturu? What is his weakness that has you so concerned?

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Oturu isn't who you draft at 20. You think that he's going to be averaging 20 PPG in the NBA based off his career in college? How many current centers are great offensive players who can't facilitate, aren't great athletes, under 6-11 without shoes and aren't shooters?

[DayofMourning]

Oturu needs to rebound and defend primarily. Two things he did well in college. He's a support piece. A 20th overall pick, not a lottery pick. Play big in the paint and get timely buckets. Not average 20 points a game.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

Oturu needs to rebound and defend primarily. Two things he did well in college. He's a support piece. A 20th overall pick, not a lottery pick. Play big in the paint and get timely buckets. Not average 20 points a game.

He's more like a 30th pick and you're treating him like a 20th pick. Brandon Clarke was drafted at 21 last year. If we want a rebounder we could just search for a rebounder in the G-league. Having someone who could direct the offense other than Dragic off the bench is much better than having someone who we expect to just rebound and make timely baskets.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

People think Oturu is the answer but take a lot at some of the big men that were drafted in the lottery last few years.

Ayton - 7 feet tall, bad defender, doesn't shoot 3s.
Bagley - Awful defender, also doesn't shoot 3s.
Wendell Carter Jr - mediocre defender, a negative on offense.
Jaren Jackson Jr. - Bad defender
Mo Bamba - No offense
Hayes - Foul machine

All of these players played better in college than Oturu and we think Oturu will turn out to be better than them. No one drafts centers high in the draft anymore unless they can defend and/or shoot.

[RexBoyWonder]

I like smith better. If we keep the pick i hope its him

Can't say I'm 100% sold on Smith, but he looks more mobile then Oturu, And I trust his outside shot more. Hitting 3's is huge for our big next to Bam.

Oturu to me looks like a talented old school big that could have been good 20 years ago. Today he's somewhat slow and isn't going to be effective in the modern NBA IMO.