Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21

[Floody100]

Man, I'm going to laugh pretty hard next season when teams are destroying us with Turner's PnR defense and we have to watch Tatum & Brown create plays for others and play in the flow.

Most of you look stucked at 1970. Centers suck. They do not win championships. All top-5 players are playmaking wings + Davis (which doesn't play at all like a 5 and didn't win jack until he joined LeBron).

And you want to trade one of the most efficient 3s in the league for 6'11 Theis.

Our best shot at a champonship until Kemba's contract expires is next season with Hayward (unless we somehow manage to trade him). Our next best shot comes when Kemba is off the books and Hayward is long gone or at least expires then.

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[Darthlukey]

Man, I'm going to laugh pretty hard next season when teams are destroying us with Turner's PnR defense and we have to watch Tatum & Brown create plays for others and play in the flow.

Most of you look stucked at 1970. Centers suck. They do not win championships. All top-5 players are playmaking wings + Davis (which doesn't play at all like a 5 and didn't win jack until he joined LeBron).

And you want to trade one of the most efficient 3s in the league for 6'11 Theis.

Our best shot at a champonship until Kemba's contract expires is next season with Hayward (unless we somehow manage to trade him). Our next best shot comes when Kemba is off the books and Hayward is long gone or at least expires then.

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Turner gets wrecked by embiid, which would normally be a negative. But theis got wrecked by embiid and we still crushed philly (albeit without Simmons). There aren't too many centres like embiid who will destroy Turner physically. Is there anyone else in the league who regularly overpowers Turner?

[Darthlukey]

C’s had a deal for Paul George on draft night but Pritchard backed out. Ainge then had a deal lined up to trade up for Donovan Mitchell as well.

As much as people hate on him for drafting and what not (which I disagree with), Celtics front office is great at talent evaluation. Loved Herro this past draft, nailed the Brown and Tatum picks, and loved Mitchell as well

Not doubting the legitimacy of this, but how could something so right have gone so wrong? Also, why are we only hearing about this deal for Mitchell now?

[big-shot-ROB]

Man, I'm going to laugh pretty hard next season when teams are destroying us with Turner's PnR defense and we have to watch Tatum & Brown create plays for others and play in the flow.

Most of you look stucked at 1970. Centers suck. They do not win championships. All top-5 players are playmaking wings + Davis (which doesn't play at all like a 5 and didn't win jack until he joined LeBron).

And you want to trade one of the most efficient 3s in the league for 6'11 Theis.

Our best shot at a champonship until Kemba's contract expires is next season with Hayward (unless we somehow manage to trade him). Our next best shot comes when Kemba is off the books and Hayward is long gone or at least expires then.

Watch on YouTube

Turner gets wrecked by embiid, which would normally be a negative. But theis got wrecked by embiid and we still crushed philly (albeit without Simmons). There aren't too many centres like embiid who will destroy Turner physically. Is there anyone else in the league who regularly overpowers Turner?

yes, guards.

[Floody100]

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Turner gets wrecked by embiid, which would normally be a negative. But theis got wrecked by embiid and we still crushed philly (albeit without Simmons). There aren't too many centres like embiid who will destroy Turner physically. Is there anyone else in the league who regularly overpowers Turner?

yes, guards.

What guards ‘overpower’ Turner ? lol

Think your clutching at straws here mate.

[Floody100]

Man, I'm going to laugh pretty hard next season when teams are destroying us with Turner's PnR defense and we have to watch Tatum & Brown create plays for others and play in the flow.

Most of you look stucked at 1970. Centers suck. They do not win championships. All top-5 players are playmaking wings + Davis (which doesn't play at all like a 5 and didn't win jack until he joined LeBron).

And you want to trade one of the most efficient 3s in the league for 6'11 Theis.

Our best shot at a champonship until Kemba's contract expires is next season with Hayward (unless we somehow manage to trade him). Our next best shot comes when Kemba is off the books and Hayward is long gone or at least expires then.

You do realise if Theis was 6’11 he’d be one of the best centres in the game.

[Ed Pinkney]

Give me Sabonis or give me death!!!!

[aporel18]

Hayward and Theis to Indiana
Oladipo and Turner to Boston

https://tradenba.com/trades/RKoj6dT7_

Pacers get +15 increase on expected wins, so they should send us a pick back.

Walker/Oladipo
Smart/Oladipo
Brown/Romeo
Tatum/Grant W
Turner/Robert W

Oladipo shining in his 6th man role to increase his trade value, could be swapped for more assets at the trade deadline.

[robbie84]

Hayward + #14 for Buddy Hield?

[robbie84]

Actually guys, that Myles Turner is a pretty good defensive player.

https://www.bball-index.com/his-time-is-now-myles-turner-is-a-legit-defensive-player-of-the-year-candidate/

It's funny how soon the reports of Indiana being interested in Hayward comes out, suddenly we don't like Turner anymore. He sucks now. We want more. We want Sabonis and Brogdon. And add Bitadze and an unprotected 1st while we're at it. Amusing what the power of leverage does.

So even if Turner is just a "bit" better than Theis. Maybe that's all a team that nearly reached the finals need. I personally believe Turner is a better defensive center and definitely better offensively. I admittedly haven't watched much of him, but when people talk about the elite defensive bigs in the league, he's name is among those mentioned. He's also bigger than Theis and refs hate him less, so he'll be able to stay in the floor more. If we're always looking out for that perfect "Brad Steven's center," a rim protecting, switchable, stretch big, then we'd be perpetually looking for one because how many out there actually fits the bill? Turner is maybe the closest and one who is actually realistically acquirable.

If our trade asset is a Jaylen Brown, then yeah, maybe we can afford to be more choosy in what we're getting back. That's just not the case here.

Turner's potential under Stevens is exciting. He's a competitor that can defend and shoot the 3.
He's locked up for 3 years and at $18 million there's not much better value we'd get out of Hayward's contract IMO.

If we could get Myles Turner shooting close to 40% from three on 3 or 4 attempts a game, we'd be really, really tough to beat. He's not a rebounder but we don't need a rebounder. We need a big man that can shoot threes and defend, and ultimately at least put up a fight against Lopez/Adebayo and then Davis/Jokic in the West.

Remember people, if Hayward opts in, then walks in free agency the following year, we lose that cap space.

[Floody100]

Myles Turner,
Pros:
-Elite shot blocker
-Defends the pick & roll well
-Can switch him defensively
-Spaces the floor because he can shoot the 3 at a decent rate.
-Bam averaged 22PPG against us in the playoffs, Turner kept him to 15PPG while averaging 16PPG himself.

Apparent Cons:
-Can’t rebound. (Even though he averaged 11 boards a game against the Heat)
-Get’s outmuscled by Embiid. (When Embiid is in a mood no one can stop him)
-“He’s a 6’11 Theis” (Theis would be one of the best centres in the game if he was that height)
-“Jaylen was playing Center over him at the FIBA World Cup” (The same FIBA World Cup which made the current 2x MVP look average)

Can’t really understand some people on this site considering he’s the exact type of player we’re looking for.

[100proof]

I dont see the need to upgrade payroll by 13 million to improve from Theis to TUrner.

BUUUUUTTTT

if Theis is going out in a deal then it makes alot more sense.

[100proof]

Hayward and #14 to Indiana

Kemba and Theis and #30 to the Clippers

Turner, Brogdon and Paul George to the Celtics

Brogdon/Smart
Brown/Romeo
George
Tatum/GrantW
Turner/Timelord

[tfribs45]

Myles Turner,
Pros:
-Elite shot blocker
-Defends the pick & roll well
-Can switch him defensively
-Spaces the floor because he can shoot the 3 at a decent rate.
-Bam averaged 22PPG against us in the playoffs, Turner kept him to 15PPG while averaging 16PPG himself.

Apparent Cons:
-Can’t rebound. (Even though he averaged 11 boards a game against the Heat)
-Get’s outmuscled by Embiid. (When Embiid is in a mood no one can stop him)
-“He’s a 6’11 Theis” (Theis would be one of the best centres in the game if he was that height)
-“Jaylen was playing Center over him at the FIBA World Cup” (The same FIBA World Cup which made the current 2x MVP look average)

Can’t really understand some people on this site considering he’s the exact type of player we’re looking for.

we need a serious upgrade at the 5, and Turner is an upgrade whether people want to believe it or not. Theis was no match downlow and should be coming off the bench..... If we can get a fairly even trade for GH and he goes to his hometown, it's a no brainer for both sides. I just hope Timelord and Cobra are off the table!

[100proof]

Hayward, Edwards, #14 to Indiana (Pacers get 13 million TPE)

Kemba, Lamb, #30 to NYK

Brogdon, Turner, Portis #8 to Boston (Celts get 16 million TPE)

Brogdon/#8
Smart/Romeo
Brown/GrantW
Tatum/Portis
Turner/Theis/Timlord

[celtxman]

C’s had a deal for Paul George on draft night but Pritchard backed out. Ainge then had a deal lined up to trade up for Donovan Mitchell as well.

As much as people hate on him for drafting and what not (which I disagree with), Celtics front office is great at talent evaluation. Loved Herro this past draft, nailed the Brown and Tatum picks, and loved Mitchell as well

If anything I hold it against Ainge if he really likes a player and doesnt move on him. Rumor was also that Ainge LOVED Doncic. Dallas loved Doncic. Dallas loved Dirk. Dallas made great aggressive moves to get both. Ainge would get a ton of credit if he figured a way to get in front of Miami to get Herro. This isnt to get us off on a rabbit trail to compare Dallas and Boston over the years. Its about giving out credit for players Ainge or anyone else supposedly liked but sat on the sidelines for. It's like telling your friends how much you loved Amazon as a $10 stock. You just didn't buy any

[Gomes3PC]

Myles Turner,
Pros:
-Elite shot blocker
-Defends the pick & roll well
-Can switch him defensively
-Spaces the floor because he can shoot the 3 at a decent rate.
-Bam averaged 22PPG against us in the playoffs, Turner kept him to 15PPG while averaging 16PPG himself.

Apparent Cons:
-Can’t rebound. (Even though he averaged 11 boards a game against the Heat)
-Get’s outmuscled by Embiid. (When Embiid is in a mood no one can stop him)
-“He’s a 6’11 Theis” (Theis would be one of the best centres in the game if he was that height)
-“Jaylen was playing Center over him at the FIBA World Cup” (The same FIBA World Cup which made the current 2x MVP look average)

Can’t really understand some people on this site considering he’s the exact type of player we’re looking for.

My problem with Turner is he's a tweener. He's not a dominant post guy like Embiid or Davis and he's not a mobile playmaker like Bam.

That said, I think he has suffered from a terrible fit next to Domas, and his rebounding numbers definitely are suppressed playing next to him. He's best as a 4th/5th option on offense whereas in Indy his offensive responsibility is bigger than it should be.

The piece that is truly holding him back though is his shooting. For a "spacing" big he was pedestrian from deep, and more importantly I think he takes too damn long to load up his shot. With the right coach he could tighten his release, and that would help a ton. Will make closing out on him tougher and he could also leverage his solid passing better. Everything right now with him is a half tic too deliberate.

[ConstableGeneva]

Pipe dream trade lol.

CHA gets Myles Turner, #14
IND gets Gordon Hayward, #30
BOS gets Cody Zeller, #3

Hornets sign BPA from FA to become the 8th seed. Indiana balances roster. Celtics get another #3 pick along with Kemba's PnR buddy.

[100proof]

Myles Turner,
Pros:
-Elite shot blocker
-Defends the pick & roll well
-Can switch him defensively
-Spaces the floor because he can shoot the 3 at a decent rate.
-Bam averaged 22PPG against us in the playoffs, Turner kept him to 15PPG while averaging 16PPG himself.

Apparent Cons:
-Can’t rebound. (Even though he averaged 11 boards a game against the Heat)
-Get’s outmuscled by Embiid. (When Embiid is in a mood no one can stop him)
-“He’s a 6’11 Theis” (Theis would be one of the best centres in the game if he was that height)
-“Jaylen was playing Center over him at the FIBA World Cup” (The same FIBA World Cup which made the current 2x MVP look average)

Can’t really understand some people on this site considering he’s the exact type of player we’re looking for.

we need a serious upgrade at the 5, and Turner is an upgrade whether people want to believe it or not. Theis was no match downlow and should be coming off the bench..... If we can get a fairly even trade for GH and he goes to his hometown, it's a no brainer for both sides. I just hope Timelord and Cobra are off the table!

Its not about believing anything.

Theis was better in every single statistical category both Raw and Advanced than Turner with the exception of 3 pointers attempted and blocked shots and block%

that is absolute FACT.

Theis better shooter
theis better 3pt %
Theis better ft%
Theis better rebounder
Theis better screen assist
theis better passer
theis better assist%
theis better steals
theis better steal %
theis better offensive rating
theis better defensive rating
theis better at all BPMs
theis better VORP
Theis better contract by 13 millin dollars.

The ONLY other thing Turner has on theis is age and the potential to improve more under Brad.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Myles Turner,
Pros:
-Elite shot blocker
-Defends the pick & roll well
-Can switch him defensively
-Spaces the floor because he can shoot the 3 at a decent rate.
-Bam averaged 22PPG against us in the playoffs, Turner kept him to 15PPG while averaging 16PPG himself.

Apparent Cons:
-Can’t rebound. (Even though he averaged 11 boards a game against the Heat)
-Get’s outmuscled by Embiid. (When Embiid is in a mood no one can stop him)
-“He’s a 6’11 Theis” (Theis would be one of the best centres in the game if he was that height)
-“Jaylen was playing Center over him at the FIBA World Cup” (The same FIBA World Cup which made the current 2x MVP look average)

Can’t really understand some people on this site considering he’s the exact type of player we’re looking for.

If all these things were true [and they’re not, for the record— He isnt a good PnR defender and he is as switchable as Theis and the Pacers were better when Turner was off the floor in the playoffs— the Heat were +55 with Bam in a series they were +42; the Pacers were -38 with Turner], why on Earth would Indy trade him for Hayward.

Spoiler: they wouldnt. They wouldnt even trade the real version of Turner for him either.