Clyde_Style wrote:Covid is trending upwards pretty hard and we're only at the beginning of flu season. It's going to keep getting worse before election day
The middle of the country up through the Dakotas are getting hammered. Following their leader, the Orange Pied Piper, off the cliff.
The sad thing is that they will take many innocent people over the cliff with them.
I've never gotten a flu shot in my life. Contemplating it now.
HarthorneWingo wrote: The middle of the country up through the Dakotas are getting hammered. Following their leader, the Orange Pied Piper, off the cliff.
The sad thing is that they will take many innocent people over the cliff with them.
I've never gotten a flu shot in my life. Contemplating it now.
HarthorneWingo wrote: The middle of the country up through the Dakotas are getting hammered. Following their leader, the Orange Pied Piper, off the cliff.
The sad thing is that they will take many innocent people over the cliff with them.
I've never gotten a flu shot in my life. Contemplating it now.
Anybody else here with that consideration?
I work in health care so I get one every year pretty much mandatory. I recommend it. It's not a guarantee you won't get it but any precautions help.
they don't contain tracker nanobots or the mark of the beast or give you autism or whatever the latest claim is
Hes_On_Fire wrote: I’m not a radical leftist (or, I guess, a ‘progressive’) so much of her views seem ridiculous to me. Her policies seem to all stem from the millennial ‘woke’ movement, not all of which is based in reality.
The whole point of my post is that she takes "radical" ideas and condenses them into more digestable bits for people who would otherwise dismiss them. She grounds those ideas in lived experiences that are relatable so people can realize that the policies are in fact built on realistic goals.
Hes_On_Fire wrote:For example, killing the Amazon deal in Long Island City helped nobody except give her more clout. She says she’s fighting for jobs - that would have added thousands upon thousands of permanent jobs. She has no business sense and I think a major part of being a political leader is understanding the economy and how it works. Simply saying ‘equal pay for all!, no more poverty!’ with no realistic plan to get there solves nothing.
The Amazon deal is a good example of AOC and the left having a real complaint and people talking past it instead of addressing it. I do not believe that people have to side with the city officials or AOC or the others; but there were material concerns behind the complaints that a jobs projection doesn't even attempt to address.
The Uniformed Land Use Review process was bypassed. This might not be a big deal but that land had already accounted for in a plan that included a public school, housing and other public spaces. City Council would have been able to use the ULURP to have some input on the land that was already going to give back to and bring value to the community. It's not a case of "25,000 jobs or nothing." It's a projection that may or may not be met of 25K jobs versus a projected school, housing, parks, production spaces and everything else that was already planned.
That doesn't mean that the HQ2 deal might not produce all of the same. But it's never guaranteed that they'd meet the number of jobs it promised (I'd bet it misses some quotas in a pandemic). I think the skepticism is especially warranted because of the secrecy of the negotiations and the fact that Amazon pulled out when NYC conceded to allowing a panel review of the project.
The secrecy meant that we got op-eds from Christie and Cuomo about how great the deal was but not the concrete details that concerned parties were hoping for. Instead we got op-eds and attacks that basically came down to "look at all the money this is supposed to produce, that could build schools, housing and parks" as a response to people saying "you just took away land that was already going to be schools, housing and parks." The take our word for it aspect was met with skepticism because the reviews were bypassed.
Also, I think it's helpful to ask what happened to that land after HQ2 fell through? It looks like it became part of a bigger ambitious plan for space and more that I'd assume will actually have to pass the type of land use Reviews that Amazon chose to leave the deal over...
So it's not like the HQ2 deal goes away and the land just dies. The parks, the schools and new housing go up. I'd bet that will create some jobs as well. I'd still want community and city council members involved in how ALL of that is implemented, the same as the HQ2 deal. But the magnification of the "tax credits" portion completely blocked out the "land grants without oversight" part that was a much bigger part of the left's complaint.
Hes_On_Fire wrote:Shes young and she knows how to speak to the young people of today. She’s smart and knows how to get her points across to her audience. I just don’t agree with radical economic and healthcare policies and never will. Her ideas have been tried in other countries and failed miserably.
What other ideas of hers do you consider failures in other countries? I'd prefer specific policies to a socialism boogeyman, she's more Soc Dem than anything and those policies exist to varying degrees of success elsewhere. Universal Healthcare being the best example.
Putting the thread on spoiler due to thread length.
I lived in Western Queens over the past 3 years - moved back to NJ (where I grew up) once COVID hit. AOC was my rep for a few years, but I lived walking distance away from where HQ2 would be built.
Originally, I supported the HQ2 deal and thought it was bad once Amazon pulled out. However, reading into it a bit further and then living as a resident of Western Queens, I changed course. There were many issues with the deal that would have supreme domino effects on housing that adversely effect the majority of people who've already been impacted by gentrification in Manhattan/LIC over the past 20 years.
Stepping back tho, people have to understand that the term "Long Island City" is used as a sales pitch for investors, developers, gentrifiers, etc. It's a way to attract tenants to move from other boroughs into the area. They've also painted a broad brush to treat areas like Astoria, Sunnyside, as Woodside as Long Island City.
These three neighborhoods are the ones to keep an eye out, as I've lived in parts of those three neighborhoods in the past 3 years. While Astoria's a hotspot for a younger clientele of renters, it's actually a heavy low-to-working class population. Sunnyside/Woodside are more populous and similar too. Real estate there has actually gone up like crazy in recent years as many have flocked and bought row homes and co-ops, thus jacking up the property values and making it impossible for long-time residents to buy there.
Western Queens is already quite populous. The 7 train serves most of Western Queens to Flushing and the N/W is the only train that serves Astoria. They both intersect at Queensboro Plaza, ironically enough seconds away from Queensbridge projects while also seconds away from 40 floor apartment buildings. Summary of NYC. These trains are already jam packed and have plenty of issues as is. Somehow Queens City Council has kinda forced the MTA to make sure the 7 isn't shut down on weekends, but it can get bad at times.
Anyway, I'm going off topic. Amazon deal presented many problems. First, it accelerated gentrification further beyond Sunnyside/Woodside. These are areas where you may find somewhat affordable apartments. HQ2 forces people further east, which means Jackson Heights to Corona or Flushing. Can't go north because that leads into Astoria, which is already gentrifying. Going south leads into Greenpoint and Brooklyn. This results in longer commutes for many people and situations where people have to live in parts of a neighborhood not easily accessible to buses or trains... that's a huge issue. What does this mean? It becomes WAY more expensive to live in the current neighborhood.
Second problem? Infrastructure. Subway is already a mess as it is, adding WAY more passengers along the 7 train without the infrastructure to support the number of riders is just unsustainable. Some of the trains in Queens are already unreliable as is.
The other issue is the lack of communication with community leaders in the city. HQ2 can certainly help small businesses, but it can also push small businesses out especially if bigger chains flood the market. That type of communication wasn't there in the discussions and THAT was the fatal mistake of the deal. I think Queens will be fine without HQ2. There are various issues still in the borough, but Amazon doesn't solve those issues.
Ironically enough, Amazon will still be in NY, although in a much more expensive borough in Manhattan and without any tax breaks. Guess they really didn't need it.
The overall vibe is important of course that's the lasting impression the average public gets. But just as important are the strategic hits and I think they get too little attention.
Like in the first debate Trump knocked Biden into backsliding on some things his base wants like the green new deal disillusioning them.
In this debate he crushes Biden in some important swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania over fracking. Our oil industry is booming with lots of new jobs and Biden wants to roll back the clock on that. It's a deal killer and he walked right into it.
Also most people are fed up with the Corona restrictions and are well and ready to get back to living. The public has had enough. Let the sickly and elderly stay inside but it's time for the rest of us to get back to normal.
You can vote for Biden who is on board with restricting more or vote for Trump and get back to a normal life and live with a certain amount of danger like we always do when some new bug comes prancing around.
Besides, how many voters want a president who's son has child porn of his 14 year old relative on his laptop. The "sophisticates" on the coasts might wave it off because of Orange Man Bad Syndrome but you can bet those religious upper Midwest swing state voters aren't going to be doing that.
Biden is done. With all of his now public corruption even if he won he would never be sworn in as president. Too much of a national security risk.
The overall vibe is important of course that's the lasting impression the average public gets. But just as important are the strategic hits and I think they get too little attention.
Like in the first debate Trump knocked Biden into backsliding on some things his base wants like the green new deal disillusioning them.
In this debate he crushes Biden in some important swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania over fracking. Our oil industry is booming with lots of new jobs and Biden wants to roll back the clock on that. It's a deal killer and he walked right into it.
Also most people are fed up with the Corona restrictions and are well and ready to get back to living. The public has had enough. Let the sickly and elderly stay inside but it's time for the rest of us to get back to normal.
You can vote for Biden who is on board with restricting more or vote for Trump and get back to a normal life and live with a certain amount of danger like we always do when some new bug comes prancing around.
Besides, how many voters want a president who's son has child porn of his 14 year old relative on his laptop. The "sophisticates" on the coasts might wave it off because of Orange Man Bad Syndrome but you can bet those religious upper Midwest swing state voters aren't going to be doing that.
Biden is done. With all of his now public corruption even if he won he would never be sworn in as president. Too much of a national security risk.
"Now turning our Florida Correspondent, Clyde Style. Clyde, do you have sense of how the voting is going on down there?"
It's getting hot in Florida Wingo and I'm not talking about the sunshine. The steady stream of voters marching in to cast their ballots would seem to favor the Democratic vote according to our esteemed political analyst in Key West, J. Remi Buffet whose latest prognostication was Nibblin' on sponge cake, Watchin' the sun bake, All of those tourists covered with oil, Strummin' my six string on my front porch swing, Smell those shrimp, They're beginnin' to boil.
The overall vibe is important of course that's the lasting impression the average public gets. But just as important are the strategic hits and I think they get too little attention.
Like in the first debate Trump knocked Biden into backsliding on some things his base wants like the green new deal disillusioning them.
In this debate he crushes Biden in some important swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania over fracking. Our oil industry is booming with lots of new jobs and Biden wants to roll back the clock on that. It's a deal killer and he walked right into it.
Also most people are fed up with the Corona restrictions and are well and ready to get back to living. The public has had enough. Let the sickly and elderly stay inside but it's time for the rest of us to get back to normal.
You can vote for Biden who is on board with restricting more or vote for Trump and get back to a normal life and live with a certain amount of danger like we always do when some new bug comes prancing around.
Besides, how many voters want a president who's son has child porn of his 14 year old relative on his laptop. The "sophisticates" on the coasts might wave it off because of Orange Man Bad Syndrome but you can bet those religious upper Midwest swing state voters aren't going to be doing that.
Biden is done. With all of his now public corruption even if he won he would never be sworn in as president. Too much of a national security risk.
The overall vibe is important of course that's the lasting impression the average public gets. But just as important are the strategic hits and I think they get too little attention.
Like in the first debate Trump knocked Biden into backsliding on some things his base wants like the green new deal disillusioning them.
In this debate he crushes Biden in some important swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania over fracking. Our oil industry is booming with lots of new jobs and Biden wants to roll back the clock on that. It's a deal killer and he walked right into it.
Also most people are fed up with the Corona restrictions and are well and ready to get back to living. The public has had enough. Let the sickly and elderly stay inside but it's time for the rest of us to get back to normal.
You can vote for Biden who is on board with restricting more or vote for Trump and get back to a normal life and live with a certain amount of danger like we always do when some new bug comes prancing around.
Besides, how many voters want a president who's son has child porn of his 14 year old relative on his laptop. The "sophisticates" on the coasts might wave it off because of Orange Man Bad Syndrome but you can bet those religious upper Midwest swing state voters aren't going to be doing that.
Biden is done. With all of his now public corruption even if he won he would never be sworn in as president. Too much of a national security risk.
HarthorneWingo wrote:In Florida Biden is up 52 to 45.
Trafalgar has Trump up by 2 and Rasmussens poll today Trump by 4.
Florida is a lock for Trump. The Latinos will push that win. I posted the 30, 000 vehicle car rally for Trump in Miami that was followed up by a 75, 000 car rally that lasted 6 hours.
I think you take Wisconsin.
Pennsylvania was up for grabs but after yesterday's debate I think you lost it.
Michigan is going to Trump and so is Ohio.
Last election North Carolina Hillary was ahead by 7% in early/mail in voting going into election day and Trump won by 3%. You're only ahead by 3% there right now.
HarthorneWingo wrote:In Florida Biden is up 52 to 45.
Trafalgar has Trump up by 2 and Rasmussens poll today Trump by 4.
Florida is a lock for Trump. The Latinos will push that win. I posted the 30, 000 vehicle car rally for Trump in Miami that was followed up by a 75, 000 car rally that lasted 6 hours.
I think you take Wisconsin.
Pennsylvania was up for grabs but after yesterday's debate I think you lost it.
Michigan is going to Trump and so is Ohio.
Last election North Carolina Hillary was ahead by 7% in early/mail in voting going into election day and Trump won by 3%. You're only ahead by 3% there right now.
Your path is getting narrower.
The Democratic base is suffering from anxiety from what happened in 2016 when they thought Hillary was a shoe-in. They didn't anticipate several things such as Trump winning all the rustbelt states and how many undecided voters would vote for Donnie.
This cycle is much different. He's neck and neck with Biden in historically red states such as Arizona. Even Texas is rather close and that dam state tried to secede from the US before the Civil War. They're the epitome of a deep red state and Trump isn't holding a double digit lead like he was able to secure in 2016.
The fracking issue is cumbersome, but I don't believe Trump will be winning Pennsylvania this time around. Philadelphia absolutely hates his guts and Bucks County area has a very concentrated population compared to the rest of the state.
Florida is no lock for Trump either; while it may happen there's no veritable guarantee. If he does win, it'll be by a small margin.
You fail to see that almost every national poll has Biden ahead by double digits. I guess you're just living in a state of denial, which is fine I suppose. I believe you'll be the one who's in for a disappointment come November 3rd. There's many less undecided voters this time around and I think we can all assume who most of them will be voting for.
I don't know how anyone can hitch their wagon to that narcissistic sociopath. A president is supposed to be somewhat relatable to the american people- what exactly about that trust fund baby screams being relatable? He ran in 2016 as a Washington outsider- that I do agree with he looks like an individual that escaped from Bellevue hospital.
The day of reckoning is coming soon to the GOP. That includes the senate as well. Just make sure you post on here afterward, I look forward to reading more of your posts.
