2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch - Revised Poll

[WeekapaugGroove]

I agree and don't think they will trade down too far if they do. I don't think they would risk trying to trade down in the 20s to take someone like Bane...perhaps a few spots like last year. Kira Lewis and Tyrell Terry are ranked in many mocks and boards in the 20s as well but either one could probably easily go within a few spots of #10. We even know these names a lot more and they are being talked about more than Cam was last year so it's probably a bigger risk to try trading down to far if they want one of those 3 guys, because if other teams covet any of these guys, they may try to leapfrog the Suns to take one or more of them.

I think something similar. Seems like we like Lewis/Terry/Bane according to reports for the past few weeks. All 3 are guards that are mocked to go later in the 1st. My guess is that we will trade back a few spots, grab a player from that team along with their later pick. Im also guessing that the player we trade for will be a Big and the drafted player will be a Guard. Seems like Guards have a smaller chance to bust, so roll the dice on that and get a big that has already shown he belongs in the league. Im sure we have those 3 names in some kind of order where if we do trade down we try for one guy, if he's gone we are ok with going to the next name (And so on).

If we look at history, Jones has been GM for 2 drafts now, and in both drafts we have made a move (Zhaire Smith+Miami 2021 1st for Bridges in 2018) and (Culver for Saric/Cam in 2019).

I still think that our best option is trading our pick for 2 of Boston's 3 1st round picks. They will not be drafting and developing 3 players this upcoming season. Besides getting a guard with the earlier pick we could score a nice back-up big with the late 1st. From there we still have Oubre we can try to trade to see if we can further improve that way.

Now the question is what teams drafting a bit after us would be looking to move up and what player on their team can we score for the privilege to move up? Im looking in the ORL/POR/MIN/DAL/BKLYN/MIA/PHI/DEN/UTA/MIL/OKC/BOS range

Ryan McDickhead was still the GM for the bridges/Ayton draft... Why I'll never understand.


I could see a trade down but I also think it's reasonable they just take Terry or Lewis at 10. I think both will go somewhere late lotto.

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[Kerrsed]

Ryan McDickhead was still the GM for the bridges/Ayton draft... Why I'll never understand.

Yeah, i forgot that Jones was VP back then. Im sure he had some sway still.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Ryan McDickhead was still the GM for the bridges/Ayton draft... Why I'll never understand.

Yeah, i forgot that Jones was VP back then. Im sure he had some sway still.

Yeah I've heard some rumors he wanted bridges.

The trade back that could make sense is with boston if they love someone sitting at 10. They could deal 14 plus either 26 or 30. Boston gets their guy and the suns probably still have a guy like Lewis or Terry there at 14 and could add a project big with the later pick. I really doubt Boston wants to roster 3 rookies so expect them to be looking to trade. (Not exactly a bold or new idea)

Id guess Okongwu would be a Boston target and if he starts to slide a little they will try to go get him.

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[Saberestar]

I agree and don't think they will trade down too far if they do. I don't think they would risk trying to trade down in the 20s to take someone like Bane...perhaps a few spots like last year. Kira Lewis and Tyrell Terry are ranked in many mocks and boards in the 20s as well but either one could probably easily go within a few spots of #10. We even know these names a lot more and they are being talked about more than Cam was last year so it's probably a bigger risk to try trading down to far if they want one of those 3 guys, because if other teams covet any of these guys, they may try to leapfrog the Suns to take one or more of them.

I think something similar. Seems like we like Lewis/Terry/Bane according to reports for the past few weeks. All 3 are guards that are mocked to go later in the 1st. My guess is that we will trade back a few spots, grab a player from that team along with their later pick. Im also guessing that the player we trade for will be a Big and the drafted player will be a Guard. Seems like Guards have a smaller chance to bust, so roll the dice on that and get a big that has already shown he belongs in the league. Im sure we have those 3 names in some kind of order where if we do trade down we try for one guy, if he's gone we are ok with going to the next name (And so on).

If we look at history, Jones has been GM for 2 drafts now, and in both drafts we have made a move (Zhaire Smith+Miami 2021 1st for Bridges in 2018) and (Culver for Saric/Cam in 2019).

I still think that our best option is trading our pick for 2 of Boston's 3 1st round picks. They will not be drafting and developing 3 players this upcoming season. Besides getting a guard with the earlier pick we could score a nice back-up big with the late 1st. From there we still have Oubre we can try to trade to see if we can further improve that way.

Now the question is what teams drafting a bit after us would be looking to move up and what player on their team can we score for the privilege to move up? Im looking in the ORL/POR/MIN/DAL/BKLYN/MIA/PHI/DEN/UTA/MIL/OKC/BOS range

Aaron Gordon + #15 for Kelly Oubre + #10 ??

That trade would make sense. The Magic have Terrence Ross too, another interesting player who is on a three year contract at around $12M per year.

[Djedefre]

Oubre-Gordon = textbook example of a lateral move

[Ghost of Kleine]

Oubre-Gordon = textbook example of a lateral move

In other words, Fairly equal in trade value.

[Saberestar]

Oubre-Gordon = textbook example of a lateral move

Yeah, I mostly agree but there are a couple things...

1. Gordon is for the next two years under contract on a reasonable $17M per year. Oubre is expiring.
2. Gordon is a more all-around player. Bigger and better defensively and more of a passer. That fits (on theory) perfectly next to Booker, Bridges and Ayton.

[Kerrsed]

Now the question is what teams drafting a bit after us would be looking to move up and what player on their team can we score for the privilege to move up? Im looking in the ORL/POR/MIN/DAL/BKLYN/MIA/PHI/DEN/UTA/MIL/OKC/BOS range

ORL: Oubre for Gordon/#45 (Oubre/#10 for Isaac/Bamba/#15 would be interesting if Isaac wasnt going to miss the entire season in a expiring contract year)
PHI: Oubre/Frank for Horford/#21/#36 OR Oubre/Frank/Jerome/#10 for Harris/#21/#36
BKLYN: Oubre/#10 for Dinwiddie/#19
DEN: Oubre/#10 for Barton/PorterJr/#22 (I might be asking for too much, but sue me!)
OKC: Oubre/Frank/Jerome/#10 for CP3/#25
BOS: #10 for #14/#26 or #30


I couldnt find anything really interesting to do with POR/MIN/DAL/MIA/UTA/MIL

[Kerrsed]

Oubre-Gordon = textbook example of a lateral move

Yeah, I mostly agree but there are a couple things...

1. Gordon is for the next two years under contract on a reasonable $17M per year. Oubre is expiring.
2. Gordon is a more all-around player. Bigger and better defensively and more of a passer. That fits (on theory) perfectly next to Booker, Bridges and Ayton.

Pretty much the same reason i included him in my last post (Which i was making for the past hour so i didnt see all these other posts).

Ourbe and Gordon's defense is pretty much on par with each other. Oubre is a better shooter all-around, while Gordon is a better passer and helps his teammates on offense more (Including assists). I also chose this idea as hoping that a change in teams/system would maybe help Gordon. I dont know if he can increase his shooting efficiency, but its got to be better playing with Rubio than with the smorgasbord of failed point-guards that he has been playing with in Orlando. I also think that Gordon has a leg up on playing PF and could probably do a better job than Oubre or Bridges trying to do it full-time.

Oh, and Gordon has a slight positive PIPM while Oubre has netted a slight negative, so there is that too.

Other than that it kind of is a neutral move. We get an extra season of Gordon to see if we have a future with him, and trade our higher pick to move back 5 spots and pick up a 2nd rounder.

On top of all that, we cant forget the the Suns pushed hard to get Gordon away from Orlando before the deadline. Orlando balked at the offers (From us and others) and hoped that he could improve his value for the rest of the season (That never happened), as he only played 4 games in the bubble.

Read on Twitter

Other (unconfirmed) reports suggest that Orlando asked for Kelly Oubre Jr. in exchange for Gordon but the Suns declined that request and offered Tyler Johnson and Cameron Johnson instead. The sides never came to an agreement.

Im sure that Oubre for Gordon trade is looking better for both teams right now.

[bwgood77]

Oubre-Gordon = textbook example of a lateral move

Yeah, I mostly agree but there are a couple things...

1. Gordon is for the next two years under contract on a reasonable $17M per year. Oubre is expiring.
2. Gordon is a more all-around player. Bigger and better defensively and more of a passer. That fits (on theory) perfectly next to Booker, Bridges and Ayton.

Yeah, the main thing is that Gordon expires before 2nd contracts kick in for Ayton/Bridges and he may make less than Oubre will command in 21-22. And yes, he fits more the mold of what they like in that he moves the ball....anf makes plays for others.

[Crives]

Oubre-Gordon = textbook example of a lateral move

Yeah, I mostly agree but there are a couple things...

1. Gordon is for the next two years under contract on a reasonable $17M per year. Oubre is expiring.
2. Gordon is a more all-around player. Bigger and better defensively and more of a passer. That fits (on theory) perfectly next to Booker, Bridges and Ayton.

Pretty much the same reason i included him in my last post (Which i was making for the past hour so i didnt see all these other posts).

Ourbe and Gordon's defense is pretty much on par with each other. Oubre is a better shooter all-around, while Gordon is a better passer and helps his teammates on offense more (Including assists). I also chose this idea as hoping that a change in teams/system would maybe help Gordon. I dont know if he can increase his shooting efficiency, but its got to be better playing with Rubio than with the smorgasbord of failed point-guards that he has been playing with in Orlando. I also think that Gordon has a leg up on playing PF and could probably do a better job than Oubre or Bridges trying to do it full-time.

Oh, and Gordon has a slight positive PIPM while Oubre has netted a slight negative, so there is that too.

Other than that it kind of is a neutral move. We get an extra season of Gordon to see if we have a future with him, and trade our higher pick to move back 5 spots and pick up a 2nd rounder.

On top of all that, we cant forget the the Suns pushed hard to get Gordon away from Orlando before the deadline. Orlando balked at the offers (From us and others) and hoped that he could improve his value for the rest of the season (That never happened), as he only played 4 games in the bubble.

Read on Twitter

Other (unconfirmed) reports suggest that Orlando asked for Kelly Oubre Jr. in exchange for Gordon but the Suns declined that request and offered Tyler Johnson and Cameron Johnson instead. The sides never came to an agreement.

Im sure that Oubre for Gordon trade is looking better for both teams right now.

We can’t add a poor 3pt shooter into the starting lineup.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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quote="Kerrsed"]

Now the question is what teams drafting a bit after us would be looking to move up and what player on their team can we score for the privilege to move up? Im looking in the ORL/POR/MIN/DAL/BKLYN/MIA/PHI/DEN/UTA/MIL/OKC/BOS range

ORL: Oubre/#10 for Gordon/#15/#45 (Oubre/#10 for Isaac/Bamba/#15 would be interesting if Isaac wasnt going to miss the entire season in a expiring contract year)
PHI: Oubre/Frank for Horford/#21/#36 OR Oubre/Frank/Jerome/#10 for Harris/#21/#36
BKLYN: Oubre/#10 for Dinwiddie/#19
DEN: Oubre/#10 for Barton/PorterJr/#22 (I might be asking for too much, but sue me!)
OKC: Oubre/Frank/Jerome/#10 for CP3/#25
BOS: #10 for #14/#26 or #30


I couldnt find anything really interesting to do with POR/MIN/DAL/MIA/UTA/MIL[/quote]

Pretty solid trades as always man!
The only alterations that I'd offer are:

Brooklyn: The 10th pick for Dinwiddie/ Claxton/ 19. I remember reading somewhere (can't remember where exactly though)?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bulletsforever.com/platform/amp/2020/10/15/21515429/washington-wizards-brooklyn-nets-trade-idea-taurean-prince-nic-claxton-ish-smith-issac-bonga

Deal of the Day:

Can the Wizards take back Salary from the Nets and add a first round pick?

In today’s deal of the day, we explore whether the Wizards can receive Taurean Prince, Nic Claxton and a 2020 first round pick from the Brooklyn Nets.

By JHeiser3 on October 15, 2020 4:00 pm

Anyways, The article mentioned Brooklyn possibly looking to move Prince / Dinwiddie with the 19 attached for cap space. Now it seems that they're obviously willing to move Dinwiddie, and the 19 for cap space. I'm not sure However, If taking Tuarean Prince is a mandatory inclusive part of the deal?
Perhaps we could get creative and do something around:

Phoenix/Brooklyn/ Detroit
https://tradenba.com/trades/l1hO3o3_1
Then we could look to flip Oubre to GS for their TPE/ 48th pick. Or else I might ( post trade) to trade Oubre to New York for the 27th pick/ Dallas unenprotected 2021 first? I really want Claxton included because he's simply got ridiculous length/ athleticism/ fluidity/ potential! ( He's got identical measurements to Giannis actually)!! He's 6'11 with a 7' 3 wingspan and an ridiculous 36' vertical with his size. He's also fast, fluid, Can hit the three, and has good ballhandling skills for someone his size too.

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Another trade that I'd look at would be a 3 team trade with Philly.
Phoenix/ Philly/ Detroit
https://tradenba.com/trades/ci07_ZlzP
( Although, We could just as easily trade the 10th pick for Josh Richardson/ 19/ 34).
19- Desmond Bane.
34- Paul Reed or Daniel Oturu.

8 ( Detroit trade)- Hayes or Haliburton or Terry.



With Dallas, I'd probably consider Oubre for the Delon Wright/ 18/31st picks. Or it's also been discussed that the 10 for the 18/ 31 might be possible?
Phoenix/ Dallas
https://tradenba.com/trades/dFia1N-Rs


With Minnesota, Perhaps we just consider The 10th pick for Omari Spellman/:16/33rd pick.
Phoenix/ Minnesota
https://tradenba.com/trades/XHVsBfcZI

16- Kira Lewis or Tyrell Terry.
33- *Tyler Bey or *Paul Reed ( Both are elite multipositional versatile long athletic defenders that can compliment Booker/ Oubre/ Aytons' offense with their elite disruptive defensive abilities.
** Buy a mid to late 2nd for either Isiah Joe or Sam Merrill ( Both are absolutely LETHAL elite perimeter shooters).

Overall man, As you yourself already mentioned, The Boston trade back scenario would really be optimal, With us taking back maybe Poirier and/ or Olejeye to also get the 30th pick with the 14 and 26. So again, post trade, We'd optimally have:
14- Lewis or Terry. ( BPGOTF).
26- Tyler Bey. ( ELITE multipositional lockdown wing/defensive playmaker).
30- Daniel Oturu. ( elite versatile high production versatile 4/5, With strong shotblocking and floor spacing potential).
** Buy a mid to late 2nd for either Isiah Joe (*Duncan Robinson upside) or perhaps Sam Merrill (*Healthy Luke Kennard upside) AND then stash them in the G league for a season or two to develop well the same way that Miami did!

[darmani]

Oubre-Gordon = textbook example of a lateral move

Yeah, I mostly agree but there are a couple things...

1. Gordon is for the next two years under contract on a reasonable $17M per year. Oubre is expiring.
2. Gordon is a more all-around player. Bigger and better defensively and more of a passer. That fits (on theory) perfectly next to Booker, Bridges and Ayton.

This is **** BS. Gordon makes $3.8M more than Oubre this season. If we decide to go under the cap this summer that's a big difference. For Oubre and Gordon to makes the same amount of money for the next 2 season Kelly would have to sign a $20.2M contract in 2021 ($5-6M more than his current contract).

Gordon isn't bigger than Oubre. Gordon is an inch taller but Oubre has a 3-inch longer wingspan.

There aren't too many defensive stats that show that Gordon is a better defender than Oubre. On offense his higher assist numbers are mostly a result of him getting more touches than Oubre and Gordon's shot selection makes Brandon Knight look like Steve Nash.

Touches per 36 minutes:
Oubre 47.6
Gordon 58.6

Points per touch:
Oubre 0.411
Gordon 0.272

Pull up shooting:
Oubre .519 eFG% on 156 FGA
Gordon .327 eFG% on 217 FGA (41/149 .275% on 2-point pull ups! - the worst shot in basketball)

PPP as a pick and roll ball handler:
Oubre 0.92 PPP on 153 possessions (.517 eFG%)
Gordon 0.65 PPP on 131 possessions (.335 eFG%)

D-PIPM:
Oubre +0.40
Gordon -0.36

D-BPM:
Oubre -0.3
Gordon +0.1

D-RAPTOR:
Oubre +0.5
Gordon -1.2

[Saberestar]

Oubre-Gordon = textbook example of a lateral move

Yeah, I mostly agree but there are a couple things...

1. Gordon is for the next two years under contract on a reasonable $17M per year. Oubre is expiring.
2. Gordon is a more all-around player. Bigger and better defensively and more of a passer. That fits (on theory) perfectly next to Booker, Bridges and Ayton.

This is **** BS. Gordon makes $3.8M more than Oubre this season. If we decide to go under the cap this summer that's a big difference. For Oubre and Gordon to makes the same amount of money for the next 2 season Kelly would have to sign a $20.2M contract in 2021 ($5-6M more than his current contract).

Gordon isn't bigger than Oubre. Gordon is an inch taller but Oubre has a 3-inch longer wingspan.

There aren't too many defensive stats that show that Gordon is a better defender than Oubre. On offense his higher assist numbers are mostly a result of him getting more touches than Oubre and Gordon's shot selection makes Brandon Knight look like Steve Nash.

Touches per 36 minutes:
Oubre 47.6
Gordon 58.6

Points per touch:
Oubre 0.411
Gordon 0.272

Pull up shooting:
Oubre .519 eFG% on 156 FGA
Gordon .327 eFG% on 217 FGA (41/149 .275% on 2-point pull ups! - the worst shot in basketball)

PPP as a pick and roll ball handler:
Oubre 0.92 PPP on 153 possessions (.517 eFG%)
Gordon 0.65 PPP on 131 possessions (.335 eFG%)

D-PIPM:
Oubre +0.40
Gordon -0.36

D-BPM:
Oubre -0.3
Gordon +0.1

D-RAPTOR:
Oubre +0.5
Gordon -1.2

Aaron Gordon is bigger than Oubre, that's not debatable. He weighs around 30 pounds more, his body is wider and stronger. And Gordon is close to two inches taller...but that's not even relevant comparing their body types.

With Bridges and Cam already on the roster and on a long term contracs a player like Gordon fits better at that PF position because he eats more space around the rim, is better boxing out and yet he is really fast and can play in an uptempo system. Some players at PF or switchs are too big for Oubre/Bridges/Cam and he would give us a different weapon for those matchups. Offensively he is a good passer and can be a facilitator, he is more of a team player by far than Oubre.

I agree with you about Gordon not being efficient as a shooter and overally as a scorer, but he was better the last couple of seasons before the last one. He shot .336 from 3 (on 5.9 attempts) in '18 and .349 (on 4.4 attempts) in '19. Decent numbers that went down because he was dealing with nagging injuries for a good part of the last season. When healthy (after the All Star) showed that he is yet improving his game and his raw and advanced numbers will only go up in the future IMO. He has never played next to a player as good as Booker.

Regarding his contract, I just said that he is on a reasonable $34M/2 years, so we will not need to deal with Oubre as UFA next summer. That's a positive in my book.

[Crives]

Yeah, I mostly agree but there are a couple things...

1. Gordon is for the next two years under contract on a reasonable $17M per year. Oubre is expiring.
2. Gordon is a more all-around player. Bigger and better defensively and more of a passer. That fits (on theory) perfectly next to Booker, Bridges and Ayton.

This is **** BS. Gordon makes $3.8M more than Oubre this season. If we decide to go under the cap this summer that's a big difference. For Oubre and Gordon to makes the same amount of money for the next 2 season Kelly would have to sign a $20.2M contract in 2021 ($5-6M more than his current contract).

Gordon isn't bigger than Oubre. Gordon is an inch taller but Oubre has a 3-inch longer wingspan.

There aren't too many defensive stats that show that Gordon is a better defender than Oubre. On offense his higher assist numbers are mostly a result of him getting more touches than Oubre and Gordon's shot selection makes Brandon Knight look like Steve Nash.

Touches per 36 minutes:
Oubre 47.6
Gordon 58.6

Points per touch:
Oubre 0.411
Gordon 0.272

Pull up shooting:
Oubre .519 eFG% on 156 FGA
Gordon .327 eFG% on 217 FGA (41/149 .275% on 2-point pull ups! - the worst shot in basketball)

PPP as a pick and roll ball handler:
Oubre 0.92 PPP on 153 possessions (.517 eFG%)
Gordon 0.65 PPP on 131 possessions (.335 eFG%)

D-PIPM:
Oubre +0.40
Gordon -0.36

D-BPM:
Oubre -0.3
Gordon +0.1

D-RAPTOR:
Oubre +0.5
Gordon -1.2

Aaron Gordon is bigger than Oubre, that's not debatable. He weighs around 30 pounds more, his body is wider and stronger. And Gordon is close to two inches taller...but that's not even relevant comparing their body types.

With Bridges and Cam already on the roster and on a long term contracs a player like Gordon fits better at that PF position because he eats more space around the rim, is better boxing out and yet he is really fast and can play in an uptempo system. Some players at PF or switchs are too big for Oubre/Bridges/Cam and he would give us a different weapon for those matchups. Offensively he is a good passer and can be a facilitator, he is more of a team player by far than Oubre.

I agree with you about Gordon not being efficient as a shooter and overally as a scorer, but he was better the last couple of seasons before the last one. He shot .336 from 3 (on 5.9 attempts) in '18 and .349 (on 4.4 attempts) in '19. Decent numbers that went down because he was dealing with nagging injuries for a good part of the last season. When healthy (after the All Star) showed that he is yet improving his game and his raw and advanced numbers will only go up in the future IMO. He has never played next to a player as good as Booker.

Regarding his contract, I just said that he is on a reasonable $34M/2 years, so we will not need to deal with Oubre as UFA next summer. That's a positive in my book.

Let’s look at our starters 3pt shooting from last year
Ayton - .231% - Below Average
Oubre - .352% - Average
Bridges - .361% - slightly above average
Booker - .354% - Average (this still confuses me)
Rubio - .361% - slightly above average (impressive)

We cannot add a below average shooter into this mix in 2020. There is a reason the lineup flowed so well when we started Csm in the bubble.

[darmani]

There's absolutely no advantage in playing Gordon over Oubre. He doesn't space the floor, his good defense is a myth and his slightly higher assist numbers are a result of him getting more touches and holding the ball much longer than Oubre. Gordon is one of the most inefficient players in the league. His terrible turnaround midrange jumpers (which he takes A LOT), missed free throws and bricked 3-pointers are hard to watch. Gordon is not a team player at all, he's a total black hole on offense.

FGA after 7+ dribbles:
Oubre - 25 (3.1% frequency)
Gordon - 81 (10.6% frequency)

FGA after 6+ seconds touch time:
Oubre - 44 (5.5% frequency)
Gordon - 123 (16.1% frequency)

[Djedefre]

If we can turn Oubre into something good and make the team better, we do it. Simple as that. But we should definitely avoid this kind of trade just for the sake of doing a trade. Gordon brings absolutely nothing to the table. I'd rather roll with Cam on 4 and wait for a better shot and an opportunity to REALLY improve our team. PG position still concerns me hella lot more.

[Saberestar]

There's absolutely no advantage in playing Gordon over Oubre. He doesn't space the floor, his good defense is a myth and his slightly higher assist numbers are a result of him getting more touches and holding the ball much longer than Oubre. Gordon is one of the most inefficient players in the league. His terrible turnaround midrange jumpers (which he takes A LOT), missed free throws and bricked 3-pointers are hard to watch. Gordon is not a team player at all, he's a total black hole on offense.

FGA after 7+ dribbles:
Oubre - 25 (3.1% frequency)
Gordon - 81 (10.6% frequency)

FGA after 6+ seconds touch time:
Oubre - 44 (5.5% frequency)
Gordon - 123 (16.1% frequency)

He has the ball in his hands more time because he is used ala Draymond Green on a good number of sets for the Magic.

Clifford used his passing ability and good handles protecting the ball on the perimeter in setup plays for Vucevic and Fournier. Those plays were broken many times and then he tried to create or score from the perimeter.

He sometimes tries too much, that is true, and he needs to avoid some fadeaway shots...but we are comparing him with Oubre who is not exactly an efficient player on offense.

IDK why you think that Gordon's defense is a myth. He has played a lot of years next to "lockdown defenders" as Fournier, DJ Augustin, Vucevic, Ross... so you can understand why his advanced numbers on defense are not great, but the eye test and the idea around the league is that he is a very good multipositional defender for a good reason.

[sunsbg]

Oubre has improved every season. Biggest knock on him appears to be that he's not a good decision maker. Who's going to guarantee he'll not improve in this area ? I wrote some time ago that him shooting over two-three defenders means he's skilled enough to break down defenses, just needs to learn to pass in such situations and he'll become very special player. Looks like this has been a theme for discussions last season between him and Monty :

https://youtu.be/aU_xszbCXDs?t=793

[bwgood77]

Aaron Gordon is bigger than Oubre, that's not debatable. He weighs around 30 pounds more, his body is wider and stronger. And Gordon is close to two inches taller...but that's not even relevant comparing their body types.

With Bridges and Cam already on the roster and on a long term contracs a player like Gordon fits better at that PF position because he eats more space around the rim, is better boxing out and yet he is really fast and can play in an uptempo system. Some players at PF or switchs are too big for Oubre/Bridges/Cam and he would give us a different weapon for those matchups. Offensively he is a good passer and can be a facilitator, he is more of a team player by far than Oubre.

I agree with you about Gordon not being efficient as a shooter and overally as a scorer, but he was better the last couple of seasons before the last one. He shot .336 from 3 (on 5.9 attempts) in '18 and .349 (on 4.4 attempts) in '19. Decent numbers that went down because he was dealing with nagging injuries for a good part of the last season. When healthy (after the All Star) showed that he is yet improving his game and his raw and advanced numbers will only go up in the future IMO. He has never played next to a player as good as Booker.

Regarding his contract, I just said that he is on a reasonable $34M/2 years, so we will not need to deal with Oubre as UFA next summer. That's a positive in my book.

Yes, he had a poor season last year but has shown prior to that he is a much better player and shooter and that nagging ankle injury seemed to hurt quite a bit. Even so, he ranked 38th in DRPM last year (between Lowry and Embiid) http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/1/sort/DRPM
whereas Oubre ranked 493rd. http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/13/sort/DRPM

Gordon did have 23% more touches per 36 than Oubre (58.6 vs 47.6), as mentioned earlier, but he had 273% more assists per 36 (4.1 vs 1.5), so obviously it's a lot more than a result of "more touches".