2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[douggood]

What would James Johnson cost?

its more of a question of matching the salaries, he makes 16 mil, so start with norm just to make numbers work.

[Rapsfan07]

If and when Giannis sits across from a desk with Masai, the pitch is to be the frontman of a team with Siakam Fred, OG, Davis, a nice big we're likely acquiring this year (hoping for Kleber) a deep bench, a brilliant coach, and the most passionate fanbase in the NBA.

Well if that's all we have to offer, prepare to be disappointed. Miami has two all-stars, a ton of quality youth, just as passionate a fanbase and a much better quality of life to offer.

A team of Siakam (who laid an egg in the playoffs), Fred, a role player in OG, a sophmore in Davis and Max Kleber doesn't stand a chance.

We need to do better than that just to attract him, much less to win a chip.

We have two allstars. A player Giannis is familiar with in Siakam and he doesn't need Raptor fan self trollers to convince him to come or not. We also have a player in OG whose ceiling is just as bright as Bam. So to me you must really love Spoelstra to be making those kinds of wild claims. Also if you want to judge us on the shtty bubble performances be my guest but it was barely a lockout calibre season and post season. Next you will be saying we have a flawed core.

... Lowry? Who's going to be 35 half way through the season? Lol you're kidding yourself if you think
A) Lowry is going to be factor that impacts whether or not Giannis is going to sign here.
B) Lowry isn't going to be on this team (or if he is, it will be in a much smaller role) by the time this team is truly ready to contend again.

OG is a nice piece but unless there's something there I'm not seeing, he projects to be an adequate to slightly above average starting SF in the league. An excellent return for a late first rounder, no doubt but not an all-star.

FVV may or may not be here next year. But even if he is - again, an above average starter and an excellent shooter but not an allstar.

Not sure what we have in Davis. It's too early to tell.

One of Ibaka and Gasol won't be back next year.

Powell is very very solid. He could be a starter on some teams in the league.

So what we actually have here is a collection of pieces and one all star that actually matters for the future of this team... Say what you want about the Bubble but EVERYONE played in it, including us and it was Miami that made the Finals.

That's just roster construction. Haven't even talked about the city yet.

[Psubs]

If FVV is re-signed I think he would be the lead guard and minutes distributed accordingly as Lowry's turnovers ticked up slightly.

Trade Powell for a big; Harrell for Powell and McCaw.

Draft Malachi Flynn. Sign a big like Aron Baynes, Nerlens Noel, Alex Len or Harry Giles.

PG FVV (32) - TD (16) - Flynn
SG Lowry (30) - Thomas (14) - TD (4)
SF OG (34) - Watson (10) - Stanley (4)
PF Siakam (32) - Harrell (16)
C Ibaka (30) - FA (14) - Harrell (4) - Boucher

[Psubs]

If JaMychal Green opts in (he should and wait for next season when more teams have money to spend, also not risk having to take less this off-season):

Clippers trade: JaMychal Green and Lou Williams
Clippers get: Norman Powell

Raptors trade: Norman Powell and Cash
Raptors get: JaMychal Green and Bruno Fernando

Atlanta trades: Bruno Fernando
Atlanta gets: Lou Williams and Cash

PG FVV - TD - #29
SG Lowry - Thomas - Watson
SF OG - McCaw - Watson
PF Siakam - Green - Stanley
C Ibaka - Fernando/Boucher

[fbalmeida]

Harrell can **** off. For Powell, I want Kleber.

[Psubs]

Harrell can **** off. For Powell, I want Kleber.

Or Dwight Powell.

[tdotrep2]

Siakam for Beal, Sign Christian Wood.

Next season Giannis has his closer.

Lowry
Beal
OG
Giannis
Wood

thats a championship team

[fbalmeida]

Beal isn't getting traded. Lowry is likely handing over the reigns to Fred. Insert Giannis into a core of Fred, Davis, OG, Siakam, and a nice big, and that's a championship team.

[douggood]

If JaMychal Green opts in (he should and wait for next season when more teams have money to spend, also not risk having to take less this off-season):

Clippers trade: JaMychal Green and Lou Williams
Clippers get: Norman Powell

Raptors trade: Norman Powell and Cash
Raptors get: JaMychal Green and Bruno Fernando

Atlanta trades: Bruno Fernando
Atlanta gets: Lou Williams and Cash

PG FVV - TD - #29
SG Lowry - Thomas - Watson
SF OG - McCaw - Watson
PF Siakam - Green - Stanley
C Ibaka - Fernando/Boucher

imo this trade works for none of the 3 teams involved plus jamychal green will be opting out for sure, his player option is just for $5 million, he has the clippers over a barrel especially if harrell leaves. their analytics/front office wanted them to play him much more than doc rivers played him, thus one of the reasons for docs dismissal.

[pr0gr4m]

I would go after Noel and Giles. We will have to rebuild the center and back up C and PF positions. It seems we will try and address our few holes and replace older FAs Ibaka and Gasol with younger prospects.

I would lean towards drafting Hughes if we really want scoring and to go for the finals again next year if we keep our pick. Optimally, I think it's known Powell is a trade chip. I would probably trade him and 59 for Hield and 12. I would bring back FVV. Then throwing the MLE at Wood is an absolute no brainer, I would use him at starting center and I think Noel would be cheap.

Wood/Noel
Siakam/Smith
OG/Hughes
Hield/Davis
Lowry/FVV

- 2021 cap space isn't affected as assets can be moved

- 5+ 200PPG scoreres in Siakam, Hield, Wood, Lowry, and FVV + (Hughes and/or Jalen Smith)

- Draft picks Jalen Smith and Elijah Hughes can help the Raptors compete right away and develop playing spot bench minutes. Allowing internal competition between OG and Hughes would be good for both of their development as offensive and defensive players.

- Worst case Davis can be used to dump Hield or FVV for expirings to make room for Giannis

[Psubs]

I would go after Noel and Giles. We will have to rebuild the center and back up C and PF positions. It seems we will try and address our few holes and replace older FAs Ibaka and Gasol with younger prospects.

I would lean towards drafting Hughes if we really want scoring and to go for the finals again next year if we keep our pick. Optimally, I think it's known Powell is a trade chip. I would probably trade him and 59 for Hield and 12. I would bring back FVV. Then throwing the MLE at Wood is an absolute no brainer, I would use him at starting center and I think Noel would be cheap.

Wood/Noel
Siakam/Smith
OG/Hughes
Hield/Davis
Lowry/FVV

- 2021 cap space isn't affected as assets can be moved

- 5+ 200PPG scoreres in Siakam, Hield, Wood, Lowry, and FVV + (Hughes and/or Jalen Smith)

- Draft picks Jalen Smith and Elijah Hughes can help the Raptors compete right away and develop playing spot bench minutes. Allowing internal competition between OG and Hughes would be good for both of their development as offensive and defensive players.

- Worst case Davis can be used to dump Hield or FVV for expirings to make room for Giannis

If you're getting Hield, shouldn't draft Hughes. Both are SG's. I want to trade Powell for a big like Dwight Powell.

[Zeno]

I would go after Noel and Giles. We will have to rebuild the center and back up C and PF positions. It seems we will try and address our few holes and replace older FAs Ibaka and Gasol with younger prospects.

I would lean towards drafting Hughes if we really want scoring and to go for the finals again next year if we keep our pick. Optimally, I think it's known Powell is a trade chip. I would probably trade him and 59 for Hield and 12. I would bring back FVV. Then throwing the MLE at Wood is an absolute no brainer, I would use him at starting center and I think Noel would be cheap.

Wood/Noel
Siakam/Smith
OG/Hughes
Hield/Davis
Lowry/FVV

- 2021 cap space isn't affected as assets can be moved

- 5+ 200PPG scoreres in Siakam, Hield, Wood, Lowry, and FVV + (Hughes and/or Jalen Smith)

- Draft picks Jalen Smith and Elijah Hughes can help the Raptors compete right away and develop playing spot bench minutes. Allowing internal competition between OG and Hughes would be good for both of their development as offensive and defensive players.

- Worst case Davis can be used to dump Hield or FVV for expirings to make room for Giannis

If you're getting Hield, shouldn't draft Hughes. Both are SG's. I want to trade Powell for a big like Dwight Powell.

Isn’t Powell injured basically all next season and have a future salary that makes getting a max free agent in 2021 more difficult? I don’t think we’d have room if we simply replace Norm’s 2021 contract with Dwight’s.

[Psubs]

I would go after Noel and Giles. We will have to rebuild the center and back up C and PF positions. It seems we will try and address our few holes and replace older FAs Ibaka and Gasol with younger prospects.

I would lean towards drafting Hughes if we really want scoring and to go for the finals again next year if we keep our pick. Optimally, I think it's known Powell is a trade chip. I would probably trade him and 59 for Hield and 12. I would bring back FVV. Then throwing the MLE at Wood is an absolute no brainer, I would use him at starting center and I think Noel would be cheap.

Wood/Noel
Siakam/Smith
OG/Hughes
Hield/Davis
Lowry/FVV

- 2021 cap space isn't affected as assets can be moved

- 5+ 200PPG scoreres in Siakam, Hield, Wood, Lowry, and FVV + (Hughes and/or Jalen Smith)

- Draft picks Jalen Smith and Elijah Hughes can help the Raptors compete right away and develop playing spot bench minutes. Allowing internal competition between OG and Hughes would be good for both of their development as offensive and defensive players.

- Worst case Davis can be used to dump Hield or FVV for expirings to make room for Giannis

If you're getting Hield, shouldn't draft Hughes. Both are SG's. I want to trade Powell for a big like Dwight Powell.

Isn’t Powell injured basically all next season and have a future salary that makes getting a max free agent in 2021 more difficult? I don’t think we’d have room if we simply replace Norm’s 2021 contract with Dwight’s.

I think it's better than giving Powell a raise. He should be able to get $18 million or more per year.

https://thesmokingcuban.com/2020/07/02/dallas-mavericks-dwight-powell-update/

He's rehabbing and sounds like he'll be back in 2021.

[mademan]

If you're getting Hield, shouldn't draft Hughes. Both are SG's. I want to trade Powell for a big like Dwight Powell.

Isn’t Powell injured basically all next season and have a future salary that makes getting a max free agent in 2021 more difficult? I don’t think we’d have room if we simply replace Norm’s 2021 contract with Dwight’s.

I think it's better than giving Powell a raise. He should be able to get $18 million or more per year.

https://thesmokingcuban.com/2020/07/02/dallas-mavericks-dwight-powell-update/

He's rehabbing and sounds like he'll be back in 2021.

its achilles for Dwight Powell. And he's paid through 2023...in either case, having him or Norm on the books will kill the Giannis dream. If Giannis or another max isnt coming, i'd rather have Norm at 15ish mill over Dwight at 11. Mavs would be ecstatic if someone took his contract off their hands.

[HangTime]

Anyone think Masai would trade down, for a 2 or 3 seconds, or future first?

[pr0gr4m]

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Anyone think Masai would trade down, for a 2 or 3 seconds, or future first?

I would and I think it's a great idea. Unless Maledon or Terry fall that hard I would be extremely open to doing it. The talent level there is pretty meh. I would take two low 30s for 29 easily. I would still target Paul Reed and Elijah Hughes to be immediate playoff ready role players next season. They along with Cassius Winston at 59 would be another bench mob.

I would sign Noel to a minimum deal and give Giles a chance as well. We would need a beefy center to prevent Embiid-like centers from completely destroying us. It seems pretty conclusive that Ibaka won't be back. Gasol might be interested in staying for another year and potentially joining the coaching staff? (Replace Jamal Magaloire)

I have a feeling we take a chance on Knight as an undrafted player and probably Jay Scrubb as well. The next season is tough to be competitive in without losing flexibility. I would say this is a decent chance to take advantage of a shorten season knowing it's tough to compete next season. I would emphasize developing Siakam as a shot creator, starting Powell and increasing his value, and having a younger bench develop/learn with Gasol/Lowry.

2 months in Powell should have a fairly high value around the league. He could potentially fetch multiple firsts from a team just on the brinks of contention out West (Kings?). I would do the same with Fred and take advantage of a desperate front office. If that could mean 4 extra picks between 2021-2022 it would be pretty enticing.

Finishing off the season with:

Noel/Gasol
Siakam/Oshae/Reed
OG/Watson/Hughes
Davis/Thomas/Scrubb
Lowry/Winston

That would be a second round team unless Noel is a complete steal, Lowry doesn't decline, and Davis breaks out with more opportunity. It gears for the fit of the next potential piece next to Siakam whether it's Gobert, Giannis, and/or Dipo. It would give some added flexibility to go for a disgruntled star like Beal/Booker/etc with capspace, picks, and young prospects (Davis, OG, Reed, Winston, Scrubb, and Hughes).

[pr0gr4m]

I would go after Noel and Giles. We will have to rebuild the center and back up C and PF positions. It seems we will try and address our few holes and replace older FAs Ibaka and Gasol with younger prospects.

I would lean towards drafting Hughes if we really want scoring and to go for the finals again next year if we keep our pick. Optimally, I think it's known Powell is a trade chip. I would probably trade him and 59 for Hield and 12. I would bring back FVV. Then throwing the MLE at Wood is an absolute no brainer, I would use him at starting center and I think Noel would be cheap.

Wood/Noel
Siakam/Smith
OG/Hughes
Hield/Davis
Lowry/FVV

- 2021 cap space isn't affected as assets can be moved

- 5+ 200PPG scoreres in Siakam, Hield, Wood, Lowry, and FVV + (Hughes and/or Jalen Smith)

- Draft picks Jalen Smith and Elijah Hughes can help the Raptors compete right away and develop playing spot bench minutes. Allowing internal competition between OG and Hughes would be good for both of their development as offensive and defensive players.

- Worst case Davis can be used to dump Hield or FVV for expirings to make room for Giannis

If you're getting Hield, shouldn't draft Hughes. Both are SG's. I want to trade Powell for a big like Dwight Powell.

Hughes is bigger and could be put at SF since he has a big wingspan. I like his shot creating potential. He is great at doing it without a screen and it's a skill I feel he could develop in the NBA or Gleague.

[OAKLEY_2]

I would go after Noel and Giles. We will have to rebuild the center and back up C and PF positions. It seems we will try and address our few holes and replace older FAs Ibaka and Gasol with younger prospects.

I would lean towards drafting Hughes if we really want scoring and to go for the finals again next year if we keep our pick. Optimally, I think it's known Powell is a trade chip. I would probably trade him and 59 for Hield and 12. I would bring back FVV. Then throwing the MLE at Wood is an absolute no brainer, I would use him at starting center and I think Noel would be cheap.

Wood/Noel
Siakam/Smith
OG/Hughes
Hield/Davis
Lowry/FVV

- 2021 cap space isn't affected as assets can be moved

- 5+ 200PPG scoreres in Siakam, Hield, Wood, Lowry, and FVV + (Hughes and/or Jalen Smith)

- Draft picks Jalen Smith and Elijah Hughes can help the Raptors compete right away and develop playing spot bench minutes. Allowing internal competition between OG and Hughes would be good for both of their development as offensive and defensive players.

- Worst case Davis can be used to dump Hield or FVV for expirings to make room for Giannis

If you're getting Hield, shouldn't draft Hughes. Both are SG's. I want to trade Powell for a big like Dwight Powell.

Isn’t Powell injured basically all next season and have a future salary that makes getting a max free agent in 2021 more difficult? I don’t think we’d have room if we simply replace Norm’s 2021 contract with Dwight’s.

If you trade Powell for a big that is part of not bringing back Gasol or Serge then you can take on his equal salary. So if you trade him with McCaw for MoBam and Aminu and the sign another big to the MLE then Lowry in limbo pending the projected. UFA max signing is enough.

[mademan]

IF Harrell walks cause he and the Clippers situation is unfixable, i would take him for the MLE. Not much more tho. He's a good player who would add a lot of bench scoring and energy to a lineup that was lowkey pretty bad last year

[Psubs]

IF Harrell walks cause he and the Clippers situation is unfixable, i would take him for the MLE. Not much more tho. He's a good player who would add a lot of bench scoring and energy to a lineup that was lowkey pretty bad last year

Agreed. He's like a bigger version of RHJ.