2020 Draft Thread, Part 2

Little Digger · Post #1121 » by **Little Digger** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:15 am

https://youtu.be/WIfjYnW72Ic

In Auburn’s win against Georgia last season, Okoro held Edwards, the potential No. 1 pick in November’s NBA draft, to 18 points on 6 of 15 shooting (2 of 9 on 3-pointers), and three turnovers. Okoro’s message was clear.

“If given the opportunity (to play someone from the McDonald’s All-American teams), your night’s done,” Pearl said of Okoro, who was not made available for this story. “You’re not going to score. He has that ability defensively.”

https://www.marinij.com/2020/10/22/warriors-draft-isaac-okoro-next-andre-iguodala/

Little Digger · Post #1122 » by **Little Digger** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:29 am

Okoro is a brilliant passer

Coxy · Post #1123 » by **Coxy** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:50 am

Little Digger wrote:Okoro is a brilliant passer

Is Okoro your kid?

wco81 · Post #1124 » by **wco81** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:01 pm

Okoro even as good as Thybulle?

azwfan · Post #1125 » by **azwfan** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:17 pm

wco81 wrote:Okoro even as good as Thybulle?

Sure is, and 4 years younger.

Onus · Post #1126 » by **Onus** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:28 pm

Little Digger wrote:https://youtu.be/WIfjYnW72Ic

In Auburn’s win against Georgia last season, Okoro held Edwards, the potential No. 1 pick in November’s NBA draft, to 18 points on 6 of 15 shooting (2 of 9 on 3-pointers), and three turnovers. Okoro’s message was clear.

“If given the opportunity (to play someone from the McDonald’s All-American teams), your night’s done,” Pearl said of Okoro, who was not made available for this story. “You’re not going to score. He has that ability defensively.”

https://www.marinij.com/2020/10/22/warriors-draft-isaac-okoro-next-andre-iguodala/

There are a lot of other teams that held Edwards to horrendous shooting as well.

whatisacenter · Post #1127 » by **whatisacenter** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:16 pm

Coxy wrote:
Little Digger wrote:Okoro is a brilliant passer

Is Okoro your kid?

I think Edwards is but he wishes he was more like Okoro... :lol:

ChuckDurn · Post #1128 » by **ChuckDurn** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:17 pm

azwfan wrote:
wco81 wrote:Okoro even as good as Thybulle?

Sure is, and 4 years younger.

Auburn was highly-ranked last year, so they were on TV a disproportionate amount of time (even in California, where I live). Similarly, Georgia kept showing up, because Edwards was being touted as the best player in the country. So I saw a lot of Okoro and Edwards.

Even though he didn’t score much, it was noticeable how much better Auburn was when Okoro was playing. He had an Iguodala-type effect on everything on the court - not big personal stats, but his +/- seemed awesome. And when he got hurt and had to sit out a couple of games, they stunk and lost, dropping down the rankings.

I think Okoro’s shot can and will improve over time. He’s a worker, and will figure it out. And he does literally everything else well. My only concern if we picked him is the balance between short-term needs (over the next 2-3 years, when I don’t think he’ll shoot well - but we need shooting) and long-term excellence, which I think he’ll have.

Flash Falcon X · Post #1129 » by **Flash Falcon X** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:43 pm

ShayDee wrote:
Warriors Analyst wrote:Watching more Saddiq Bey film and am really confused why he's not ranked higher. I get that he's not a super high level athlete, but everything else is there. He's a great shooter, he can defend guards wings alike, he has the size to hang at the 4, he's a capable passer, capable ball-handler, and doesn't make lots of turnovers. The things that are generally listed as weaknesses on his scouting reports -- lack of explosiveness, free throw drawing ability, and potential inability to create separation at the NBA level -- don't really concern me insofar as his role on the Warriors. Bey wouldn't be asked to create off the dribble and would only ever have to create his own shot attacking closeouts and it's unlikely he'll ever have a team's best defender on him. Warming up to the idea of him being the ideal trade down target.

He doesn't have elite creation, no burst and is not that athletic. High picks are supposed to be used for franchise changing or building talents, maybe scouts don't see him as more than a role player. But with that said he is plenty rated around where he should, late lottery. My initial board like 4 months ago was Edwards, Wiseman, Deni, Bey and Bane in that order. So I think he is being slept on. If he can shoot 3s like he did in college he will be top 5 best players in this draft because he can do it all. Pass, Dribble, Postup, defend and most importantly huge sample size of elite shooting

Reminds me of the “weaknesses” Klay Thompson had coming into the 2011 Draft.

No handles. Doesn’t jump out of the gym as a guard.

Klay ended up dropping to #11, after the “athletic ballhandlers” like Alec Burks and Brandon Knight. And turns out, the fact that Klay doesn’t need to dribble so much is one of the main reasons he’s he perfect #2 player for a guy like Steph, and as a player in Kerr’s system in general.

Saddiq Bey would be similar.

He shoots 45% on threes. Wow.

He plays defense. He’s 6’8”.

He has the height, shooting ability and defensive skills to be a great 3 & D player. Could even play alongside the Splash Brothers at times and their gravity will get Bey so many wide open looks.

KevinMcreynolds · Post #1130 » by **KevinMcreynolds** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:01 pm

Okoro has the best motor of any of these guys too

Little Digger · Post #1131 » by **Little Digger** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:26 pm

It’s clear to me Okoro should be the #1 overall and he’d be a great fit with Minnesota..Little chance they’re basketball smart enough to realize this.

A couple players may end up having better careers than Okoro, but nobody is as sure a bet..

Little Digger · Post #1132 » by **Little Digger** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:40 pm

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/warriors-will-draft-james-wiseman-not-deni-avdija-kendrick-perkins-says

whatisacenter · Post #1133 » by **whatisacenter** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:11 pm

Potential trade down target. A quick leaping, skilled big with a 3 point shot. I like his quick feet, his fight and his feel for the game.

Watch on YouTube

clyde21 · Post #1134 » by **clyde21** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:13 pm

trade down with the Knicks for #8 and #27

take Onyeka at 8 and then RJ, Bolmaro, or Josh Green whoever lasts. at 27.

azwfan · Post #1135 » by **azwfan** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:18 pm

clyde21 wrote:trade down with the Knicks for #8 and #27

take Onyeka at 8 and then RJ, Bolmaro, or Josh Green whoever lasts. at 27.

What is your level of confidence any of those 3 will be there, and if they are, they’ll be worth a damn.

Id rather have a future pick (or picks) we can use to make a tradr at the deadline for a vet.

clyde21 · Post #1136 » by **clyde21** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:19 pm

azwfan wrote:
clyde21 wrote:trade down with the Knicks for #8 and #27

take Onyeka at 8 and then RJ, Bolmaro, or Josh Green whoever lasts. at 27.

What is your level of confidence any of those 3 will be there, and if they are, they’ll be worth a damn.

Id rather have a future pick (or picks) we can use to make a tradr at the deadline for a vet.

i don't understand your question, my scenario doesn't have anything to do with our future picks, i'm just trading #2 for #9 and #27.

Scoots1994 · Post #1137 » by **Scoots1994** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:26 pm

clyde21 wrote:trade down with the Knicks for #8 and #27

take Onyeka at 8 and then RJ, Bolmaro, or Josh Green whoever lasts. at 27.

How about Okoro and Jalen Smith? Or, or, or ... lots of options in this draft.

azwfan · Post #1138 » by **azwfan** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:29 pm

clyde21 wrote:
azwfan wrote:
clyde21 wrote:trade down with the Knicks for #8 and #27

take Onyeka at 8 and then RJ, Bolmaro, or Josh Green whoever lasts. at 27.

What is your level of confidence any of those 3 will be there, and if they are, they’ll be worth a damn.

Id rather have a future pick (or picks) we can use to make a tradr at the deadline for a vet.

i don't understand your question, my scenario doesn't have anything to do with our future picks, i'm just trading #2 for #9 and #27.

Yeah, I didnt ask you about future picks. But if were trading down with the Knicks, I’d rather go for their future picks over 27.

Theres no guarantee that any of those 3 you like (and actually I like them too) will be available at 27 - and even if they are available, that they’ll be any good. Results of picking late the last few years does not give me confidence we’d get anyone even halfway decent.

clyde21 · Post #1139 » by **clyde21** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:40 pm

azwfan wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
azwfan wrote:What is your level of confidence any of those 3 will be there, and if they are, they’ll be worth a damn.

Id rather have a future pick (or picks) we can use to make a tradr at the deadline for a vet.

i don't understand your question, my scenario doesn't have anything to do with our future picks, i'm just trading #2 for #9 and #27.

Yeah, I didnt ask you about future picks. But if were trading down with the Knicks, I’d rather go for their future picks over 27.

Theres no guarantee that any of those 3 you like (and actually I like them too) will be available at 27 - and even if they are available, that they’ll be any good. Results of picking late the last few years does not give me confidence we’d get anyone even halfway decent.

well, of course I'd rather have their 21 1st or 22nd 1st if that was offered, but I don't think it will be, and if it's 2 for 8/27 take or leave it deal I'd take it.

clyde21 · Post #1140 » by **clyde21** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:42 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:trade down with the Knicks for #8 and #27

take Onyeka at 8 and then RJ, Bolmaro, or Josh Green whoever lasts. at 27.

How about Okoro and Jalen Smith? Or, or, or ... lots of options in this draft.

prefer Onyeka but I'd be okay with Okoro.

not a huge Jalen Smith guy, lower body needs a lot of work.