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Prospect Spotlight -- Patrick Williams

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Prospect Spotlight -- Patrick Williams 

Post#1 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:32 pm

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Williams has a very good shot to be a real piece in any team's future plans. As jumbo wing creators increase in the NBA, every team needs a player who can guard some of those big forwards. Williams already has that potential, and can be a wonderful boon to boost team defense. He also provides flashes of skill in almost every offensive area, and while all of those will likely not be fulfilled. Just having those multiple ancillary skills in addition to his shooting could make him a valuable piece on almost any NBA team.
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Post#2 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:46 pm

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Post#3 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:49 pm

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Re: Prospect Spotlight -- Patrick Williams 

Post#4 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:46 am

Patrick Williams, F, Florida State
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Williams can do a little bit of everything, even if his raw numbers from his freshman season (in which he didn’t start a game) don’t show it. At 6-foot-8, 225 pounds he’s a tough-minded defender on the perimeter and at the rim, and 83.8% free throw shooting offers hope his shooting might come along with reps. Still 18 until Aug. 6, he’s the youngest American-born prospect in the class.
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Patrick Williams, 6-8, Forward, Florida State

Excellent team defender who will likely spend most of his time early on in his career defending 4’s (power forwards) and small-ball 5s (centers).
Shows potential to be a solid catch-and-shoot scorer whose pick-and-roll potential either scoring the ball or passing out of it bodes well for whatever team selects him.
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Re: Prospect Spotlight -- Patrick Williams 

Post#5 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:09 am

Patrick Williams (Florida State, SF/PF, Freshman)

Williams' age (18), physical tools (6'8" and 225 lbs) and skill versatility create an enticing potential trajectory. He's the draft's youngest NCAA prospect and has a strong, power forward's body and the ability to hit open threes, shoot off the dribble, run pick-and-rolls and finish through contact. On the flip side, he's still far away offensively (9.2 points per game) and limited with his self creation. And despite playing around the perimeter, he doesn't demonstrate the quickest foot speed for guarding wings.
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Re: Prospect Spotlight -- Patrick Williams 

Post#6 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:19 am

We're going to need combo forwards moving forward to defend the Siakams, Tatums, Giannises, Ben Simmonses of the East. Patrick seems like a worthy candidate to pair alongside D Hunter as a defensive specialist with solid offensive upside.

Wings carry a ton of responsibility in today’s NBA. Just look at the Rockets. P.J. Tucker goes from bruising Anthony Davis in the post one night to defending Luka Doncic’s step-backs the next. Robert Covington protects the rim, yet he’s also tasked with defending elite guards on the perimeter. On offense, both of them primarily shoot spot-up 3s, but they also set screens and roll hard to the rim like big men usually would. The league has become a positionless place, and versatile wings like Tucker and Covington are the sticky pieces who make everything around them work.

Covington had to change his priorities—he went from a primary option on offense in college to a player who rarely dribbles the ball in the pros. Florida State freshman Patrick Williams will have to undergo a similar transformation at the next level. While coming off the bench for the Seminoles, the strong-bodied 6-foot-8 wing displayed valuable defensive versatility that could someday translate into long-term success once he learns to change directions quicker. On offense, he averaged 9.2 points, showing a knack for shooting off the dribble. Williams hit 18 of his 43 (41.8 percent) pull-up jumpers, according to Synergy Sports. But he also had a bad habit of driving into traffic or rushing into his moves, both of which led to avoidable turnovers (50 turnovers to 29 assists). Williams will need to become more impactful without the ball in his hands—he looks fluid pulling up for jumpers, but he’s rigid shooting off the catch. He shot just 31 percent on spot-up 3s, per Synergy. As an 84 percent free throw shooter, however, he projects long term as a solid spot-up marksman. And maybe someday, he’ll tap into his on-ball scoring ability, too. But to earn playing time early in his career, he’ll need to show his coaches he can do more by doing less with the ball.
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Re: Prospect Spotlight -- Patrick Williams 

Post#7 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Aug 2, 2020 9:12 pm

Sam Vecenie wrote: It might take Florida state wing/forward Patrick Williams some time to iron out his skill level, but his upside as a role player is high if he can do that. Few players have the kind of physique that Williams does, with enormous shoulders that should allow him to keep getting stronger as he ages. He also knows how to play. He’s reactive in the right ways on defense, consistently being in the right spot to make a play happen with his hands either above the rim or in passing lanes. He can be the kind of multi-positional defensive stopper on big wings that almost every team is looking for.

Offensively, he knows when and where to cut, and he knows how to move the ball around the court. He still needs to keep repping out his jump shot, and his handle could stand to use more work, but he sees the floor well and has great feel for the game. Some teams are going through his grassroots level tape and seeing that for Team United he even played as something of a point forward at times. As long as the shot comes along, Williams has everything it takes to be a really useful cog in a rotation for a long time. I have him solidly in the top 20 now, and he could end up as a late lottery guy.
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Re: Prospect Spotlight -- Patrick Williams 

Post#8 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:11 pm

Florida State's Patrick Williams, Potential Top-10 Riser

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Williams has quietly gained serious steam within NBA front offices. His name has come up multiple times in the sleeper-of-the-draft discussion.

One executive admitted to moving him into the top eight of his rankings, citing Williams being the draft's youngest NCAA prospect with "off-the-charts upside."

Another scout floated the idea that when we look back in a few years, we'll question how and why Williams wasn't a top pick more than any other prospect.

He didn't generate national attention, averaging just 9.2 points and 4.0 rebounds. But for a powerful 6'8", 225-pound 19-year-old, scouts have become enticed by his flashes of physical, athletic finishes, shot-making touch off the catch and dribble, pick-and-roll passing skills and defensive playmaking.


Those particular flashes create a unique potential trajectory if they become routine plays for Williams. And considering he only turned 19 on August 6, it seems as if teams will be willing to bet on his development.
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Re: Prospect Spotlight -- Patrick Williams 

Post#9 » by King Ken » Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:53 pm

Of the big wings, he's shooting up my board.
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Re: Prospect Spotlight -- Patrick Williams 

Post#10 » by Spud2nique » Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:55 pm

King Ken wrote:Of the big wings, he's shooting up my board.


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Seriously outside of Toppin/Okongwu disagreement... the rest of the ups and downs we have on players seems to be on the same timeline. Lamelo before Pat Will. I’m huge on Saddiq (I think he’s a Draymond type Schlenk might too at sf) and a few others.
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Re: Prospect Spotlight -- Patrick Williams 

Post#11 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:10 pm

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8. Patrick Williams (Florida State, SF/PF, Freshman)

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What I'm buying
Patrick Williams should continue using his chiseled 6'8", 225-pound frame for finishing through contact and blowing up plays on defense. I'm buying his power, but also his finesse and touch, which showed on free throws (83.8 percent) and two-point jumpers (44.4 percent).

Skill versatility should ultimately allow coaches to use Williams in different ways offensively, both on and off the ball.

Willing to bet on
Williams only averaged 9.2 points, so ranking him in the top 10 means betting on flashes. And based on the eye test and his age (19), I'm betting on the draft's youngest NCAA prospect to continue building on flashes of three-point range (16-of-50), pull-up shooting (41.9 percent), pick-and-roll ball-handling (0.96 PPP, 90th percentile) and defensive playmaking (30 blocks and 29 steals in 29 games).

He likely could have shown more in a larger role, but Florida State had an older team that shared the ball. Continuing to polish each skill in his particular set could create a unique trajectory for this draft prospect.

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Williams is raw and clearly requires significant improvement to justify top-10 status. There isn't an obvious NBA comparison with his build and skill set, so it's not easy to picture what his upside would look like.

Right now, he's not an advanced creator or shooter, and it's worth questioning his lateral foot speed for defending wings.
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Re: Prospect Spotlight -- Patrick Williams 

Post#12 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:18 pm

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11. Patrick Williams, F, Florida State | Freshman

Height: 6' 8" | Weight: 225 | Age: 19 | Previous Rank: 12

Williams has as much upside as most of the other players in the lottery, with a great frame and base set of skills that should add versatility on both ends of the floor. He’s not ready for major minutes, and a lot of his value involves projection, but as the youngest college player in the draft, it’s easy to take an optimistic tack, so long as a team can afford him time to develop. He’ll hold up fine defensively with his body type and mobility and should be able to guard slower wings as well smaller bigs. Williams’ offensive future is a bit less clear and tied to how well his handle develops, but he’s shown encouraging signs as a shooter and has enough feel to fit in without issue. For a team that doesn’t need its first-round pick to play immediately, he looks like a worthy project and easy lottery option.
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Re: Prospect Spotlight -- Patrick Williams 

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Re: Prospect Spotlight -- Patrick Williams 

Post#15 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:02 pm

Patrick Williams



Team: Florida State
Current Age: 19.20
Measurables: 6-foot-8, 225 pounds, 7-foot wingspan
Stats (Per 36): 14.8 points, 6.4 rebounds, 1.6 assists, 1.7 blocks, 1.6 steals, 2.8 turnovers
Shooting: 45.9% FG, 32.0% 3PT, 83.8% FT, 55.3% TS, 49.8% eFG

Strengths
Rough and raw around the edges, the easiest thing to notice and admire right now is Patrick Williams’ physical profile. Just a few months gone from his 19th birthday, Williams is the youngest United States born player in the draft, but he is already built like a man grown. At 6-foot-8, weighing in at a chiseled 225 pounds and possessing a 7-foot wingspan, the former Seminole is custom made for the modern day NBA. He uses that frame at an elite level for the most part, able to sprint the floor like a guard and get up to block shots or hammer home dunks with tantalizing bounciness.

Right now, Williams needs to work on refining his skill set to get up to par with his impressive physical tools, but, defensively, he has exhibited the ability to really make a difference at the rim as a shot-blocker and rotation defender. Immediately, he should be able to call on his athleticism and timing to earn himself burn. Offensively, he is already a great cutter and has a knack for being in the right place at the right time to get a dump-off pass from a guard — another skill that should translate right away.

Weaknesses
The biggest knock on Williams is his slow lateral movement and stiff hips as a perimeter defender. While he is a terror for would-be scorers around the rim, he is a walk in the park for guards who are able to get inside his hip. There is some legitimacy to the thought process that someone so young and so physically imposing is still learning how to use his body and move side-to-side, but it could become a real problem in an NBA game that has too many versatile power forwards and wings who work from the outside-in.

What-If...
Williams starts to really tap into his diverse skill set? We expect the shot-blocking and cutting to translate, but it’s the raw areas of the 19-year-old’s game that have him this high on our board. He ranked in the 90th percentile as a pick-and-roll ball-handler (albeit on a minuscule 26 possessions), flashing mouth-watering passing and pull-up shooting touch for a big man, and he is ever-improving as a spot-up 3-point shooter, hitting 35 percent of his catch-and-shoot jumpers. There is a baseline for an insanely valuable two-way player inside Williams, it’s just about putting those tools together and unleashing them upon the league.
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As long as fans are willing to give Patrick Williams some time and not feel discouraged that he is somewhat of a project, he is a seriously tasty fit, particularly next to Karl-Anthony Towns. Assuming he at least hits his median outcome, Williams is the help defender who can cover for Towns from the backside, a smart and willing cutter offensively who doesn’t need the ball in his hands, and a proficient spot-up shooter who can keep the floor spaced around Towns and D’Angelo Russell.

If he happens to hit his ceiling, Williams can also add pull-up shooting from inside and outside the arc, as well as the ability to be a tertiary initiator who can run unique and damaging 4-5 pick-and-rolls in a pinch. Of course, there is a world where Williams doesn’t grow the way he seems likely to, and that could mean someone who doesn’t add much more than rim-protection and athleticism around the rim, but even then the Timberwolves could likely find some quality minutes for him in their current rotation.
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Re: Prospect Spotlight -- Patrick Williams 

Post#16 » by Spud2nique » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:38 pm

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Team: Florida State
Current Age: 19.20
Measurables: 6-foot-8, 225 pounds, 7-foot wingspan
Stats (Per 36): 14.8 points, 6.4 rebounds, 1.6 assists, 1.7 blocks, 1.6 steals, 2.8 turnovers
Shooting: 45.9% FG, 32.0% 3PT, 83.8% FT, 55.3% TS, 49.8% eFG

Strengths
Rough and raw around the edges, the easiest thing to notice and admire right now is Patrick Williams’ physical profile. Just a few months gone from his 19th birthday, Williams is the youngest United States born player in the draft, but he is already built like a man grown. At 6-foot-8, weighing in at a chiseled 225 pounds and possessing a 7-foot wingspan, the former Seminole is custom made for the modern day NBA. He uses that frame at an elite level for the most part, able to sprint the floor like a guard and get up to block shots or hammer home dunks with tantalizing bounciness.

Right now, Williams needs to work on refining his skill set to get up to par with his impressive physical tools, but, defensively, he has exhibited the ability to really make a difference at the rim as a shot-blocker and rotation defender. Immediately, he should be able to call on his athleticism and timing to earn himself burn. Offensively, he is already a great cutter and has a knack for being in the right place at the right time to get a dump-off pass from a guard — another skill that should translate right away.

Weaknesses
The biggest knock on Williams is his slow lateral movement and stiff hips as a perimeter defender. While he is a terror for would-be scorers around the rim, he is a walk in the park for guards who are able to get inside his hip. There is some legitimacy to the thought process that someone so young and so physically imposing is still learning how to use his body and move side-to-side, but it could become a real problem in an NBA game that has too many versatile power forwards and wings who work from the outside-in.

What-If...
Williams starts to really tap into his diverse skill set? We expect the shot-blocking and cutting to translate, but it’s the raw areas of the 19-year-old’s game that have him this high on our board. He ranked in the 90th percentile as a pick-and-roll ball-handler (albeit on a minuscule 26 possessions), flashing mouth-watering passing and pull-up shooting touch for a big man, and he is ever-improving as a spot-up 3-point shooter, hitting 35 percent of his catch-and-shoot jumpers. There is a baseline for an insanely valuable two-way player inside Williams, it’s just about putting those tools together and unleashing them upon the league.
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As long as fans are willing to give Patrick Williams some time and not feel discouraged that he is somewhat of a project, he is a seriously tasty fit, particularly next to Karl-Anthony Towns. Assuming he at least hits his median outcome, Williams is the help defender who can cover for Towns from the backside, a smart and willing cutter offensively who doesn’t need the ball in his hands, and a proficient spot-up shooter who can keep the floor spaced around Towns and D’Angelo Russell.

If he happens to hit his ceiling, Williams can also add pull-up shooting from inside and outside the arc, as well as the ability to be a tertiary initiator who can run unique and damaging 4-5 pick-and-rolls in a pinch. Of course, there is a world where Williams doesn’t grow the way he seems likely to, and that could mean someone who doesn’t add much more than rim-protection and athleticism around the rim, but even then the Timberwolves could likely find some quality minutes for him in their current rotation.
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I like him in a trade down scenario he’s a Schlenk 5 tooler and a throwback type of kid. I will say on the grown man body part that a ton of Flo and Flo st. guys come in conditioned from Al Thorn to Al Hor to Kabengele and others past and present. A smart team is going to take this cat.
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Re: Prospect Spotlight -- Patrick Williams 

Post#17 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:16 pm

CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped my Patrick Williams scouting video. Man this kid has some tools. Plays at his own pace, doesn’t often get sped up. Shot is a WIP and won’t shoot as much from the mid range in the NBA. But you can totally picture this kid playing minutes in a playoff series with how switchable he is defensively.

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Post#18 » by HMFFL » Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:43 pm

According to reports, many reports, the San Antonio Spurs are supposedly high on him @ 11. I don't see us selecting him at 6th unless we trade down.


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Post#19 » by Spud2nique » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:55 am

HMFFL wrote:According to reports, many reports, the San Antonio Spurs are supposedly high on him @ 11. I don't see us selecting him at 6th unless we trade down.


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No surprise there. Spurs always get these type of guys. Well...they did. :roll:
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