2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

[Patsfan1081]

Looking at the list of meetings is it just me or are almost all the guys late first/second round projected talent?

That's what I'm seeing a couple low key names that could be 14 but it looks like we're looking at 30 and 47 area

I wonder if Ainge doesn’t want the salary of that pick. Though I’d rather keep the pick and use a late first to get off of another contract. It also makes me think they don’t have plans to trade up.

[Patsfan1081]

If December 22 start date pushes through, these rookies are gonna get buried in the rotation more than usual. With no summer league, there's not much time to familiarize themselves with team/schemes. I imagine schedule will be a bit condensed too so practices could even be more limited. And when there are practices, no real scrimmages either to prioritize rest. I see a lot of Maine time in these kids' immediate future.

I mean how much time did Langford, Edwards, or what’s his face see? I think it depends who they get, a 3&D wing shouldn’t be hard to integrate.

[BostonCouchGM]

If December 22 start date pushes through, these rookies are gonna get buried in the rotation more than usual. With no summer league, there's not much time to familiarize themselves with team/schemes. I imagine schedule will be a bit condensed too so practices could even be more limited. And when there are practices, no real scrimmages either to prioritize rest. I see a lot of Maine time in these kids' immediate future.

Yes, it will take time for players to get used to scheme/coaching/teammates, etc, but conversely, they'll have also had way more time to improve their games from the time college ended and their rookie season starts so they'll be more prepared and NBA ready compared to usual. So it'll even out for the most part.

[playa-hater]

Looking at the list of meetings is it just me or are almost all the guys late first/second round projected talent?

That's what I'm seeing a couple low key names that could be 14 but it looks like we're looking at 30 and 47 area

I wonder if Ainge doesn’t want the salary of that pick. Though I’d rather keep the pick and use a late first to get off of another contract. It also makes me think they don’t have plans to trade up.

Or maybe Ainge doesn't want to tip his hand as to who he likes... much more important to get it right at 14 than late 1st or 2nd..

[BostonCouchGM]

If December 22 start date pushes through, these rookies are gonna get buried in the rotation more than usual. With no summer league, there's not much time to familiarize themselves with team/schemes. I imagine schedule will be a bit condensed too so practices could even be more limited. And when there are practices, no real scrimmages either to prioritize rest. I see a lot of Maine time in these kids' immediate future.

I mean how much time did Langford, Edwards, or what’s his face see? I think it depends who they get, a 3&D wing shouldn’t be hard to integrate.

Turns out, when you draft poorly, those players don't get much playing time. Hopefully that won't be the case this draft. There's zero reason not to use all four picks. Nobody from last draft is good enough to block them, provided Danny chooses correctly. And we have several potential FA losses. There is NO roster crunch. There wasn't one in 2016 when he took draft and stashes and there isn't one now. So if Danny passes on potentially great players just so he can stash him, it means he didn't learn his lesson and it's time for him to go.

[playa-hater]

Am I the only one who see 3 more weeks of waiting to be excruciating painful... my freakin head won't stop spinning!!!

[captain green]

Looking at the list of meetings is it just me or are almost all the guys late first/second round projected talent?

That's what I'm seeing a couple low key names that could be 14 but it looks like we're looking at 30 and 47 area

I wonder if Ainge doesn’t want the salary of that pick. Though I’d rather keep the pick and use a late first to get off of another contract. It also makes me think they don’t have plans to trade up.

It was discussed about potentially selling the picks this year but that's seems to undermine the we are prepared to pay tax and look for depth pieces talk so. November will be leak month for sure info to come out

[playa-hater]

If December 22 start date pushes through, these rookies are gonna get buried in the rotation more than usual. With no summer league, there's not much time to familiarize themselves with team/schemes. I imagine schedule will be a bit condensed too so practices could even be more limited. And when there are practices, no real scrimmages either to prioritize rest. I see a lot of Maine time in these kids' immediate future.

I mean how much time did Langford, Edwards, or what’s his face see? I think it depends who they get, a 3&D wing shouldn’t be hard to integrate.

Turns out, when you draft poorly, those players don't get much playing time. Hopefully that won't be the case this draft. There's zero reason not to use all four picks. Nobody from last draft is good enough to block them, provided Danny chooses correctly. And we have several potential FA losses. There is NO roster crunch. There wasn't one in 2016 when he took draft and stashes and there isn't one now. So if Danny passes on potentially great players just so he can stash him, it means he didn't learn his lesson and it's time for him to go.

I agree!

[Spin Move]

I mean how much time did Langford, Edwards, or what’s his face see? I think it depends who they get, a 3&D wing shouldn’t be hard to integrate.

Turns out, when you draft poorly, those players don't get much playing time. Hopefully that won't be the case this draft. There's zero reason not to use all four picks. Nobody from last draft is good enough to block them, provided Danny chooses correctly. And we have several potential FA losses. There is NO roster crunch. There wasn't one in 2016 when he took draft and stashes and there isn't one now. So if Danny passes on potentially great players just so he can stash him, it means he didn't learn his lesson and it's time for him to go.

I agree!

I disagree, we are paying luxary tax next season and don't have enough roster spots, Hayward is opting in and this team could use antother vet or 2. So with whoever we are getting for the taxpayer midlevel plus 4 picks is too many. We should consolidate some. Maybe adding 47 to 26 or 30 to move up a spot or two or combing all 3 into 1 pick. It makes little sense to draft 4 players unless Ainge thinks that in a draft and stash he can get a better value. Most of the time our draft and stash;s have not worked out. If ALEKSEJ POKUSEVSKI (copy pasted sorry about the caps) falls to 26, ok draft him there and stash him for 3 years and maybe he turns into a lottery player. However I would much rather walk away with 1 player who is a differnce maker if we can trade up then 4 players, 3 of whom probably won't see the floor. I am ok with 1, 2 or 3 but 4 makes little sense.

[Spin Move]

Looking at the list of meetings is it just me or are almost all the guys late first/second round projected talent?

That's what I'm seeing a couple low key names that could be 14 but it looks like we're looking at 30 and 47 area

Perhaps 14 and 26 are being traded for a veteran.

[Floody100]

Looking at the list of meetings is it just me or are almost all the guys late first/second round projected talent?

That's what I'm seeing a couple low key names that could be 14 but it looks like we're looking at 30 and 47 area

Perhaps 14 and 26 are being traded for a veteran.

I’m starting to think that too.

[TheMartian]

So, the Celtics met virtually with Nate Hinton. He's very Smart-like with his energy and hustle plays. He's pretty interesting. I had never heard of him before today.

Watch on YouTube

He will be the steal of the draft. He deserves to be drafted in the lottery at the very least. In 5 years time I think there will be a legitimate conversation that he should have been drafted in the top 10. He's unbelievably underrated. Imo he'll be one of the best players to come from this draft.

That’s high praise. I hope we snag him if he’s anywhere near that good.

He does remind me a lot of Smart. He's being projected to be drafted in the mid 2nd round, close to our #47 pick, but i doubt he'll be there. Wouldn't mind him at #30 as insurance in case Danny decides to get cute and trade Smart.

[ConstableGeneva]

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[Darth_Yoda]

So, the Celtics met virtually with Nate Hinton. He's very Smart-like with his energy and hustle plays. He's pretty interesting. I had never heard of him before today.

Watch on YouTube

Why is he looking like a second round pick?
Watching the video and he looks awesome.

[JHTruth]

Looking at the list of meetings is it just me or are almost all the guys late first/second round projected talent?

That's what I'm seeing a couple low key names that could be 14 but it looks like we're looking at 30 and 47 area

More evidence we're moving up.

[celticfan42487]

With the way the financials are going, the Celtics may just do the Dancing Bear thing and draft players they can stash overseas and try to get under the luxury cap next year.

That way they can avoid the repeater tax. Given the financial landscape that could be huge.

We might be in for much more of a "roll it back" yeah than we wanted.

I guess that will give time for Edwards, Timelord, Romeo, Green, Grant to actually maybe pan out. So far that's mainly been a load of crap but they're young.

[Disinformation]

With the way the financials are going, the Celtics may just do the Dancing Bear thing and draft players they can stash overseas and try to get under the luxury cap next year.

That way they can avoid the repeater tax. Given the financial landscape that could be huge.

We might be in for much more of a "roll it back" yeah than we wanted.

I guess that will give time for Edwards, Timelord, Romeo, Green, Grant to actually maybe pan out. So far that's mainly been a load of crap but they're young.

I'd much rather see Ainge trade the picks for a veteran or future picks instead of being limited to stashable players. Because that worked out sooo well last time.

[celticfan42487]

With the way the financials are going, the Celtics may just do the Dancing Bear thing and draft players they can stash overseas and try to get under the luxury cap next year.

That way they can avoid the repeater tax. Given the financial landscape that could be huge.

We might be in for much more of a "roll it back" yeah than we wanted.

I guess that will give time for Edwards, Timelord, Romeo, Green, Grant to actually maybe pan out. So far that's mainly been a load of crap but they're young.

I'd much rather see Ainge trade the picks for a veteran or future picks instead of being limited to stashable players. Because that worked out sooo well last time.

I'm not a big fan of it either but I respect the economics of it.

Future draft picks I agree is the best possible option. Giving Kanter that 5 mil player option is looking like a big F up if this is the route we go down.

We'd much rather have a vet min at his position to avoid anything iffy. I do however get also the math of we want to be in luxry tax when Tatum is 25 and not when he's 22 so avoiding the repeaters tax this upcoming season and giving our young guys all another go to try and find a diamond in the rough makes sense. Not that we have one on our bench but Duncan Robinson was utter **** as a rookie. Sophmore year he's a 6'7" JJ Reddick (which means he isn't as big as a defensive liability as Reddick) and someone any championship team would love to have.

So basically a stash or trade for future firsts (even if it's our 2 late firsts for one future firsts) and hope Romeo or Carsen who have shown some potential but were season long flops coming through this time could be a strategically sound decision. I don't like it for the enjoyment of the upcoming decision, but i get it...

That said the person who said this I'm sure is speculating like everyone else so no guarantee. It's just a realistic possibility that makes sense for our team given we're not real championship contenders and Ainge knows that.

[playa-hater]

Turns out, when you draft poorly, those players don't get much playing time. Hopefully that won't be the case this draft. There's zero reason not to use all four picks. Nobody from last draft is good enough to block them, provided Danny chooses correctly. And we have several potential FA losses. There is NO roster crunch. There wasn't one in 2016 when he took draft and stashes and there isn't one now. So if Danny passes on potentially great players just so he can stash him, it means he didn't learn his lesson and it's time for him to go.

I agree!

I disagree, we are paying luxary tax next season and don't have enough roster spots, Hayward is opting in and this team could use antother vet or 2. So with whoever we are getting for the taxpayer midlevel plus 4 picks is too many. We should consolidate some. Maybe adding 47 to 26 or 30 to move up a spot or two or combing all 3 into 1 pick. It makes little sense to draft 4 players unless Ainge thinks that in a draft and stash he can get a better value. Most of the time our draft and stash;s have not worked out. If ALEKSEJ POKUSEVSKI (copy pasted sorry about the caps) falls to 26, ok draft him there and stash him for 3 years and maybe he turns into a lottery player. However I would much rather walk away with 1 player who is a differnce maker if we can trade up then 4 players, 3 of whom probably won't see the floor. I am ok with 1, 2 or 3 but 4 makes little sense.

we don't have to keep every player drafted in 2019.. If Boston drafted a good 4 players this year, let them battle it out with 2019.. No one really impressed me and NOT drafting a talent that I believe is available all over this draft because we have limited spots is WRONG IMO.

Now if Ainge happens to consolidate picks or trade for a veteran, then fine. But I am so against stashing.. we are so damn close.. I don't want to be very good for the next 5 years with no title. I want a title.. get the best damn players PERIOD. and worry about how to fit the roster afterwards.

[aporel18]

With the way the financials are going, the Celtics may just do the Dancing Bear thing and draft players they can stash overseas and try to get under the luxury cap next year.

That way they can avoid the repeater tax. Given the financial landscape that could be huge.

We might be in for much more of a "roll it back" yeah than we wanted.

I guess that will give time for Edwards, Timelord, Romeo, Green, Grant to actually maybe pan out. So far that's mainly been a load of crap but they're young.

I'd much rather see Ainge trade the picks for a veteran or future picks instead of being limited to stashable players. Because that worked out sooo well last time.

It probably didn't work because the kids were not good enough. Not everybody is Jokic, as a lot of european bigs, Zizic needed more time in Europe before being called to the NBA, but those agents need money and hurry them to the NBA in most cases.

Pokusevski is so raw that he probably needs 2-3 years in Greece before you can play him in the NBA, if he ever reaches that level, and he better stay 3-4 years there. But at #30, drafting and stashing him would be great.

Petrusev could be another option at #30, I don't see a lot of candidates for draft&stash worthy of a first round pick. Bolmaro at #47, ok, but not before.