dalton749 wrote:Wizop wrote:dalton749 wrote:How would pacers fans feel about this return.
I can't imagine we'd trade any of our starters for another team's backups.
Powell is clearly a starting level player. 19/4/2 on 63 ts% (31 mpg) in 26 games as a starter last year. He’s been stuck behind derozan, Danny green and then van vleet last year due to contract politics. He’s earned a starting spot somewhere.
He's a fine enough player, but players also generally put up higher stats when starting as they get more minutes as a result. He may have earned a starting spot somewhere, but he'll likely be one of those guys that will eternally be questioned of whether they're more of a first guard off the bench or starting material. I mean, you wouldn't trade him if that wasn't the question.
dalton749 wrote:Wizop wrote:dalton749 wrote:
Powell is clearly a starting level player. 19/4/2 on 63 ts% (31 mpg) in 26 games as a starter last year. He’s been stuck behind derozan, Danny green and then van vleet last year due to contract politics. He’s earned a starting spot somewhere.
And yet you must think Oladipo is better or you wouldn't be trying to make this deal. Maybe I should've just said we want to see what Nate can do with current roster.
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That’s fair. I think Oladipo is better at creating offense which Toronto needs where as Powell is a better off ball player and is probably the safer bet to have a better season next year with Oladipo’s injury concerns.
I also believe oladipo is a bigger draw to other star free agents next offseason and would be willing to take the gamble with his expiring contract to see how he bounces back. On the other hand, I think if Powell were given a starting job next year then there would be no issues resigning him without requiring a max contract to do so.
This was part of another deal I had with Lowry going to philly as I’d like to see Toronto shake things up next year and get younger.
For all the same reason you want Oladipo, we would too. We would probably prefer someone better at creating offense, since Warren is the only other real offensive creator on the wing on the roster. Brogdon is fine, but he's not a dynamic creator. Sabonis is a great creator, but more off of the pivot and elbows.
And, the issues re-signing Oladipo and Powell are directly correlated with whatever the player is likely to be. Oladipo isn't a problem to re-sign if he's a max player, because he'll have earned it. Powell may be a problem to re-sign as he hasn't had a huge money deal yet, and he'll need every dime he can get, whether or not he's earned it. I largely see the same issues between the two players in that regard, but Oladipo projects as the better player while Powell may be the better shooter. If you could combine Thybulle and Powell into one body, we'd have something, but as is, it's not terribly interesting at this moment.
But realistically, no, I don't see any major movements this offseason after hearing the intro press conferences. Sounds like the hire was made with the plans to build around the current roster.