2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch - Revised Poll

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1961 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:33 am

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DraftExpressContent (@DXContent) Tweeted:
"Defense. I don't think I need time to develop that," said @BigO21_ when asked what he'll bring to a @NBA team from Day 1 as a rookie

Here's a link to @Mike_Schmitz full interview + pre draft workout footage with the potential top-5 2020 #nbadraft pick >> https://t.co/KwS8MJRcLf https://t.co/o2U0QxNl1z

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Looks like Okungwu is developing his perimeter shooting and ( 3 point shot). I definitely could have interest in a trade up scenario for him now with Bam Adebayo type of upside. :nod:

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1962 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:40 am

Crives wrote:Next poll should be favorite trade down option (Kira vs Terry vs Bane)

Lol! I was actually thinking about that earlier today, But to be honest, I'm not sure how to post polls on here yet? Although mine was more centered around favorite potential trade back scenario, And which prospect we should choose with the respective picks from the trade? :cheesygrin:

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1963 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:55 am

A few articles of combine info on prospects that I pulled from the draft thread.

Dane Moore (@DaneMooreNBA) Tweeted:
Checked w/ @DWolfsonKSTP on his reporting here, and he confirmed that Tre Jones' standing reach is 8 feet AND 5 inches.

Here's why this is important: The additional length combined w/ a 40" vert gift Jones the ability to finish + play passing lanes ways others that size cannot. https://t.co/MT5Ec8ubUM

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Matt Babcock (@MattBabcock11) Tweeted:
Zeke Nnaji combine measurements/testing:

6’10” without shoes
7’2” wingspan
247.8 pounds
10.6” hands
33.5” no step vertical
38.0” max vertical
3.20 seconds 3/4 court sprint
10.95 lane agility
2.74 shuttle https://t.co/l0oIlRWtyH

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Scotty’s Terrible Takes (@Scottyterrible) Tweeted:
@DWolfsonKSTP U have Oturo numbers more interested in his.

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And Daniel Oturus' info
Darren Wolfson (@DWolfsonKSTP) Tweeted:
@Scottyterrible 6'10" in shoes, standing reach 9'2", hand length 9", wingspan 7'4", 3/4 sprint 3.28, touched 12'2" on max vert = some

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Ghost of Kleine · Post #1964 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:36 am

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Very solid analysis honestly. Really great 2nd round value in Paul Reed and Sam Merrill. And super solid late first round value in Tillman, Flynn and especially Bane. :wink:

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1965 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:32 pm

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What a out a trade back scenario wherein we take Bane with our primary pick, And then Tyshon Alexander ( great "point of attack defender "). That can also guard multiple positions. And can hit the three at 39% too. This way we'd add potentially 2 elite shooters, Bane at 42% And Alexander at 39%. And both are really solid defenders. Ideally, We could trade back with any of:

1- Boston- The 10 for 14/26? ( Maybe take back Poirier and Olejeye for the 30th pick too)?

2- Minnesota- The 10 for Spellman/ 16/33?

3- Dallas- The 10 for the 18/ 31?

4- Sacramento- The 10 for 12/35?

5- Pels The 10 for 13, 39, 42? ( This one actually might be my 2nd favorite trade back scenario after Boston! :dontknow:

He'd be a great 2nd round selection or with an additional pick in a trade back scenario to bring a strong " point of attack " defensive compliment to either Terry or Lewis' offense. Or even opposite of Bane, With Bane at the 2 (offensively) and Alexander at the point guard position (defensively). :wink:

Then you add Josh Hall with a two way contract, (In a Tayshaun Prince role). He can be stashed in the GLeague with Lecque for a season or two for development.

Josh Hall-
Rashad Phillips (@RP3natural) Tweeted:
When you look at the NBA and the new trend there’s an infatuation with lanky wings with skill. Josh Hall fits the description. 6’8, skilled, shot maker, with tons of room to grow. Reminds me of a young version of Brandon Ingram. Stash this kid for two years and unleash him. #Yoda https://t.co/5eqI8CISX3

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Nathan Conley (@n1conley) Tweeted:
Just a little footage of @jay5mula this morning. Day by day we continue to get better! https://t.co/enusICps31

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TheLogician · Post #1966 » by **TheLogician** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:44 am

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RedIndian · Post #1967 » by **RedIndian** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:05 am

Ghost of Kleine wrote:A few articles of combine info on prospects that I pulled from the draft thread.

Dane Moore (@DaneMooreNBA) Tweeted:
Checked w/ @DWolfsonKSTP on his reporting here, and he confirmed that Tre Jones' standing reach is 8 feet AND 5 inches.

Here's why this is important: The additional length combined w/ a 40" vert gift Jones the ability to finish + play passing lanes ways others that size cannot. https://t.co/MT5Ec8ubUM

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Matt Babcock (@MattBabcock11) Tweeted:
Zeke Nnaji combine measurements/testing:

6’10” without shoes
7’2” wingspan
247.8 pounds
10.6” hands
33.5” no step vertical
38.0” max vertical
3.20 seconds 3/4 court sprint
10.95 lane agility
2.74 shuttle https://t.co/l0oIlRWtyH

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Scotty’s Terrible Takes (@Scottyterrible) Tweeted:
@DWolfsonKSTP U have Oturo numbers more interested in his.

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And Daniel Oturus' info
Darren Wolfson (@DWolfsonKSTP) Tweeted:
@Scottyterrible 6'10" in shoes, standing reach 9'2", hand length 9", wingspan 7'4", 3/4 sprint 3.28, touched 12'2" on max vert = some

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Those standing reach measurements for Tre Jones can't be correct. A 6'2 guy with a 6'5 wingspan can't have an 8'5 standing reach. More likely it's something like 8'0 or 8'1.

For reference, Mikal Bridges who is a 6'6 with a 7'0.5 wingspan has a standing reach of 8'4.

Oubre who is 6'7 with a 7'2 wingspan has a standing reach of 8'6.5.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1968 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:49 pm

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Those standing reach measurements for Tre Jones can't be correct. A 6'2 guy with a 6'5 wingspan can't have an 8'5 standing reach. More likely it's something like 8'0 or 8'1.

For reference, Mikal Bridges who is a 6'6 with a 7'0.5 wingspan has a standing reach of 8'4.

Oubre who is 6'7 with a 7'2 wingspan has a standing reach of 8'6.5.[/quote]

I know crazy huh?...lol!

Although to be honest I'm more interested in his overall skillset, And his defense over anything else. Also though his vertical burst is intriguing if accurate? :dontknow:

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1969 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:55 pm

Ashton Hagans is another great defensive guard option to be considered along with Tyshon Alexander in the 2nd round IF we go with Bane in the first round? Hagans is also super quick, a very solid defensive playmaking guard in the mold of a Patrick Beverley. He's relentless on that end of the ball. But much like Beverly, He needs to improve upon his overall shooting. Still though he has potential ( as well as Alexander) to be an elite defensive guard.

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Ghost of Kleine · Post #1970 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:32 pm

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Post #1971 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:36 pm

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I hope the Suns wouldn't take Lewis over Vassell.

Fo-Real · Post #1972 » by **Fo-Real** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:41 pm

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That hurts to watch!!!

Fo-Real · Post #1973 » by **Fo-Real** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:46 pm

Being still younger than a ton of these dudes coming out and having such resources and great minds to tap , I wonder what Lecque is working on?!?! If he develops even a little, he could be something to look forward to, kid is only 20.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1974 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:34 pm

Def Pen Hoops (@DefPenHoops) Tweeted:
Paul Reed had a breakout junior year with DePaul last year. We break down his skill set heading into the 2020 NBA Draft. https://t.co/oMe760xJTP https://t.co/fVYZCIpnWw

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TheLogician · Post #1975 » by **TheLogician** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:24 pm

bwgood77 wrote:I hope the Suns wouldn't take Lewis over Vassell.

I know you're not as high on Lewis, but what do you like about Vassell? Defensively he's not in the same league as Mikal, IMO. And that jump shot is a block waiting to happen.

Post #1976 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:41 pm

TheLogician wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:I hope the Suns wouldn't take Lewis over Vassell.

I know you're not as high on Lewis, but what do you like about Vassell? Defensively he's not in the same league as Mikal, IMO. And that jump shot is a block waiting to happen.

I like his defense and shooting. I think he is a team guy, and would be a great backup 2 guard. Mikal is close to an all league defender, so it will be tough for someone to match him, but Bane actually does have a better DRTG and DWS/40, and a slightly higher steals per 36 #. He's certainly a solid defender, though not as long as Vassell, but still not bad with a 6'10 wingspan.

My biggest issue with him would be his lack of assists. I probably like Bane just as much though. He is solid across the board. The top shooter of everyone we are looking at, more assists than Terry and slightly fewer than Lewis, a very solid defender, etc.

Bane has really grown on me and is really up there on my list...I'd be fine with him at 10. I saw The Ringer mocked him to Miami at 20. Sounds just like a Miami pick.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1977 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:54 pm

Wouldn't surprise me at all if the suns took Lewis or Terry over Vassell.

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Post #1978 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:21 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Wouldn't surprise me at all if the suns took Lewis or Terry over Vassell.

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Oh, me either. Nothing would really surprise me..but I think they definitely would take Bane, Terry or Lewis at 10 if one of those guys are the guy they want. I also could see them thinking Vassell is more duplicitous than the other guys, and I agree with that...and if JJ is bothered with his new shot mechanics if those are truly his new full time mechanics.

I think one of the three I've mentioned might be the most likely considering those are the 3 we have heard them liking and/or having interviews with.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1979 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:25 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Wouldn't surprise me at all if the suns took Lewis or Terry over Vassell.

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What about Bane over Vassell? I for my part absolutely love Bane. But IF both Vassell and Bane are on the board, I think we have to go with Vassell. I say this because we could still get elite shooting in the 2nd round with Isiah Joe or Sam Merrill at a bargain. I guess I just love the idea of a Vassell ( 2) / Bridges ( 3) elite lockdown defensive duo. But in retrospect, A Bridges/ Bane duo would also be very dynamic and intriguing. :nod:

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1980 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:28 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Wouldn't surprise me at all if the suns took Lewis or Terry over Vassell.

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Oh, me either. Nothing would really surprise me..but I think they definitely would take Bane, Terry or Lewis at 10 if one of those guys are the guy they want. I also could see them thinking Vassell is more duplicitous than the other guys, and I agree with that...and if JJ is bothered with his new shot mechanics if those are truly his new full time mechanics.

I think one of the three I've mentioned might be the most likely considering those are the 3 we have heard them liking and/or having interviews with.

Heck I'd add Williams to that list. Now Im a little skeptical they would take a project like him I could argue a bigger 3/4 combo forward fits better long term than Vassell who's more of a 2/3.

The Vassell shot thing is interesting because I've seen reports he was screwing around in that video but if he for real broke his shot then I'd have to drop him below everyone mentioned.

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