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2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1281 » by Zeno » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:44 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:A starting SG is the Hawks #1 priority.
Powell fits the bill.
I know they didn't forget about this...



Could we get #6 for Norm + #29 + First Round Pick [2022] ? Maaaaybe.

I'd also be open to Norm for First Round Pick [2022-OKC] + Second Round Pick [2020-MIA] and/or Second Round Pick [2021-MIA]


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Hunter
Collins
Capela
/with solid depth

That's a playoff team in the East IMO. Maybe not this year but next year for sure.

I don't think it's enough but if it were even close, you could pick for the Hawks at #29 and trade the 2021 immediately because this year's draft wouldn't be a future one anymore. That would actually open an additional 2 million plus in cap space for Giannis. But again I would be shocked if Norm plus two likely very late 1sts is going to get it done.
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Post#1282 » by Bankai » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:08 pm

Just extend OG Anunoby to a decent deal. He was the most consistent Raptor in the Bubble. Showed his potential imo, need to keep him.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1283 » by Red_Claw » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:35 pm

Zeno wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:A starting SG is the Hawks #1 priority.
Powell fits the bill.
I know they didn't forget about this...



Could we get #6 for Norm + #29 + First Round Pick [2022] ? Maaaaybe.

I'd also be open to Norm for First Round Pick [2022-OKC] + Second Round Pick [2020-MIA] and/or Second Round Pick [2021-MIA]


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Young
Powell
Hunter
Collins
Capela
/with solid depth

That's a playoff team in the East IMO. Maybe not this year but next year for sure.

I don't think it's enough but if it were even close, you could pick for the Hawks at #29 and trade the 2021 immediately because this year's draft wouldn't be a future one anymore. That would actually open an additional 2 million plus in cap space for Giannis. But again I would be shocked if Norm plus two likely very late 1sts is going to get it done.


No reason to trade for a top 10 in this draft. I like some of those top 10 players but the price is too much for the situation were in. I think the last thing we need to do is trade away future picks since i believe we may need to package them up for a big name player to make another Championship push with this core.

Now acquiring another mid round pick without giving any future assets im all for.

I hope fans appreciate our development system. We don't need super talented, top 10 draft picks to develop. All Masai needs to draft is hardworking, good character guys and our system and attention to developing them will do the rest.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1284 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:45 pm

Red_Claw wrote:
Zeno wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:A starting SG is the Hawks #1 priority.
Powell fits the bill.
I know they didn't forget about this...



Could we get #6 for Norm + #29 + First Round Pick [2022] ? Maaaaybe.

I'd also be open to Norm for First Round Pick [2022-OKC] + Second Round Pick [2020-MIA] and/or Second Round Pick [2021-MIA]


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Young
Powell
Hunter
Collins
Capela
/with solid depth

That's a playoff team in the East IMO. Maybe not this year but next year for sure.

I don't think it's enough but if it were even close, you could pick for the Hawks at #29 and trade the 2021 immediately because this year's draft wouldn't be a future one anymore. That would actually open an additional 2 million plus in cap space for Giannis. But again I would be shocked if Norm plus two likely very late 1sts is going to get it done.


No reason to trade for a top 10 in this draft. I like some of those top 10 players but the price is too much for the situation were in. I think the last thing we need to do is trade away future picks since i believe we may need to package them up for a big name player to make another Championship push with this core.

Now acquiring another mid round pick without giving any future assets im all for.

I hope fans appreciate our development system. We don't need super talented, top 10 draft picks to develop. All Masai needs to draft is hardworking, good character guys and our system and attention to developing them will do the rest.


Raptors have been linked to some of the top 10 prospects all season long that's why I can see us trading into into the top 10.
But I'm certain Masai wouldn't overpay. Especially since this is a rather weak draft.
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Post#1285 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:26 am

Psubs wrote:Trade Powell and #59 for Delon and #31?

Delon makes $9 million which saves a bit and his contract goes down to $8.5 million the following summer, instead of Powell going up if re-signed. Sign Poeltl!!!

PG Lowry - Delon - FVV
SG FVV - TD/Thomas
SF OG - McCaw/Watson
PF Siakam - Boucher
C Ibaka - Poeltl

rather trade for nkitilina; he's the defensive pg this team is looking for.
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Post#1286 » by TorontoRapsFan » Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:35 am

AkelaLoneWolf wrote:
Psubs wrote:Trade Powell and #59 for Delon and #31?

Delon makes $9 million which saves a bit and his contract goes down to $8.5 million the following summer, instead of Powell going up if re-signed. Sign Poeltl!!!

PG Lowry - Delon - FVV
SG FVV - TD/Thomas
SF OG - McCaw/Watson
PF Siakam - Boucher
C Ibaka - Poeltl

rather trade for nkitilina; he's the defensive pg this team is looking for.


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Post#1287 » by pr0gr4m » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:28 pm

I think Powell is too good to give up. There is no way a guy dropping 18/5/2 per 36 on 62TS% can't put up 25ish on 55ish TS%. I would strongly consider plugging Powell at the starting 2. I would wager he could top FVV's production last season and actually be worth a Brogdon contract.

I would rather sign and trade FVV for Christian Wood. Trade the 29 down for 2 2nd and pick up Reed, Hughes, and Winston. That would fix a lot of the problems last playoffs.

Wood/Poeltl
Siakam/Reed
OG/Watson
Powell/Hughes
Lowry/Davis/Winston

It would be a strong core to go into the POs with and it would probably be Woods breakout season. I would project Powell getting a lot of points on the board too and raising his value. Lowry will likely decline and I would groom Davis to take that role soon or Winston if Davis is not capable.
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Post#1288 » by Red_Claw » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:34 pm

Just FYI, with the situation TD is in now, Powell is pretty much not movable.
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Post#1289 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:40 pm

Red_Claw wrote:Just FYI, with the situation TD is in now, Powell is pretty much not movable.


agree to this. but trade Terence Davis + 2020 FRP to ATL for #6 though lol fresh start for a lottery level player in TD3.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1290 » by Red_Claw » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:43 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Red_Claw wrote:Just FYI, with the situation TD is in now, Powell is pretty much not movable.


agree to this. but trade Terence Davis + 2020 FRP to ATL for #6 though lol fresh start for a lottery level player in TD3.


You would give up #6 for a player who may go to jail and if not, you get 1 year of his services and #29?

Atlanta isin't that dumb.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1291 » by HeadtopChunes » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:44 pm

Red_Claw wrote:Just FYI, with the situation TD is in now, Powell is pretty much not movable.


i dont think this changes anything tbh

Powell's contract hasn't changed, and he's still likely at peak value. Matt Thomas had the rotation spot in the playoffs too. So the reasoning behind a Powell trade remains intact
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Post#1292 » by OAKLEY_2 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:10 pm

HeadtopChunes wrote:
Red_Claw wrote:Just FYI, with the situation TD is in now, Powell is pretty much not movable.


i dont think this changes anything tbh

Powell's contract hasn't changed, and he's still likely at peak value. Matt Thomas had the rotation spot in the playoffs too. So the reasoning behind a Powell trade remains intact


Yes it is all about cap space next year. I bet the charges are dropped against TD II and he is as gainfully employed as Jason Kidd and countless others. Whether the Raps like him long term is anybody's guess. Raps do not like stupid or people who get charged with felony assault.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1293 » by fbalmeida » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:03 am

I love Norm but I think he remains as movable a player as before, simply because he is unlikely to remain with us past this season. In doing so, he creates a void at SG that we will not have much cap space to adequately stock. I think that developing Watson and Thomas to rotate at SG, to eventually start Watson at the 2 spot is a preferable strategy going forward.
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Post#1294 » by TheAlchemist » Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:25 pm

I'm going all in on James Harden.

He's going to absolutely be a beast in the east.

If Houston asks for Pascal, I give them it. But preferably a sign and trade with Fred and EVERYTHING outside of Lowry and OG would be amazing.

Lowry
James Harden
OG
Pascal
re-signed Serge

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I think Houston would do it just in spite of the 76ers lol. I really think so, especially after the way the Rockets owner reacted. I think a James Harden / Pascal combo would be enough to get to the finals. James is the ultimate spacing guy, and I think his defense is underrated.
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Post#1295 » by TheAlchemist » Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:30 pm

Also , if Houston thinks the basketball fit is good, would do a Kyle Lowry + assets + stuff for James trade.

It'd be hard to swallow, but the fit for both teams would be absolutely great. Houston gets a Westbrook / Lowry combo, with great spacing.

We slot Harden into a shooting guard spot, re-sign Fred, and then try to figure out the cap situation if Giannis wants to be on our team.

If Giannis is actually wanting to sign with us, it wouldn't be hard to trade FVV + stuff / Pascal + stuff or hell even Harden for cap space.
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Post#1296 » by douggood » Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:20 pm

^^

cannot aggregate FVV/ibaka etc in sign and trade
pascal extension kicks in, i dont think he is allowed to be traded for 3-6 months(dont quote me on this but i think thats the case)

just financially speaking, lowry is the only road to a harden trade this year, and that makes no sense for the rockets.
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Post#1297 » by Zeno » Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:21 pm

What about bringing back PJ Tucker as our starting centre for Davis, Stanley and 29. I don't think Houston is going to continue with micro-ball nor do I think they will extend him. I'd give him another year at 10 million with a 4 million dollar guarantee. If we need the space for Giannis, he will likely be easy enough to trade, if somehow not, you can waive and stretch that 4 million and have less impact on the capspace next year than the 29th pick.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1298 » by sogood » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 pm

TheAlchemist wrote:I'm going all in on James Harden.

He's going to absolutely be a beast in the east.

If Houston asks for Pascal, I give them it. But preferably a sign and trade with Fred and EVERYTHING outside of Lowry and OG would be amazing.

Lowry
James Harden
OG
Pascal
re-signed Serge

..

I think Houston would do it just in spite of the 76ers lol. I really think so, especially after the way the Rockets owner reacted. I think a James Harden / Pascal combo would be enough to get to the finals. James is the ultimate spacing guy, and I think his defense is underrated.


lmao come on. They wouldn't trade Harden for Pascal AND Anunoby.
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Post#1299 » by TheAlchemist » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:52 pm

sogood wrote:
TheAlchemist wrote:I'm going all in on James Harden.

He's going to absolutely be a beast in the east.

If Houston asks for Pascal, I give them it. But preferably a sign and trade with Fred and EVERYTHING outside of Lowry and OG would be amazing.

Lowry
James Harden
OG
Pascal
re-signed Serge

..

I think Houston would do it just in spite of the 76ers lol. I really think so, especially after the way the Rockets owner reacted. I think a James Harden / Pascal combo would be enough to get to the finals. James is the ultimate spacing guy, and I think his defense is underrated.


lmao come on. They wouldn't trade Harden for Pascal AND Anunoby.


I know lol.

It'd be something like Pascal + OG + whatever. I just really would hope we somehow find a way to keep Pascal and have a 1-2 punch with both of them + good players.

Man, getting a talented guy like Kawhi was a crazy trade for Masai. Can't believe we even pulled it off.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1300 » by PhilBlackson » Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:39 am

An expiring Powell (who's just a rotation player) contract gets the #6 pick and we're getting Harden without giving up Pascal or OG lol yall need to stop.
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