2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

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[GoCeltics123]

From, as ConstableGeneva says, the oft-quoted Hawks insider:

BOS - Is a team looking to move up but not too high. This is where #8 NY could come into play if the right guy drops. He was told that Haliburton or Okongwu has piqued their interest.

Looks like The Comedian and Captain Green were right about Haliburton.

[Darth Celtic]

From, as ConstableGeneva says, the oft-quoted Hawks insider:

BOS - Is a team looking to move up but not too high. This is where #8 NY could come into play if the right guy drops. He was told that Haliburton or Okongwu has piqued their interest.

Looks like The Comedian and Captain Green were right about Haliburton.

yeah, haliburton has been on the list since the start of the bubble I think.

Okongwu is the first I've heard.

I think if one of those 2 drop or even a guy like Obi drops below what was expected, they will probably trade up.

[Homerclease]

I’d be game for moving up for Haliburton, would rather have Vassell but definitely see the interest. RJ Hampton is a huge no for me at 14 though. Want no part of him

[leper-con]

Also from the same guy


" Boston wants to resign Aron Baynes.

He is hearing the same thing others are about Gordon Hayward. He is looking to opt-out. He is looking to resign or find an SnT deal to Dallas. This one is Boston's to lose. He seems to want to resign but with more years and a less competitive market than 2021. "


take it for what it is worth.

[Darth Celtic]

Also from the same guy


" Boston wants to resign Aron Baynes.

He is hearing the same thing others are about Gordon Hayward. He is looking to opt-out. He is looking to resign or find an SnT deal to Dallas. This one is Boston's to lose. He seems to want to resign but with more years and a less competitive market than 2021. "


take it for what it is worth.

great offseason if we replace Kanter with Baynes and Hayward opts out and takes less money over 3-4 years.

Move up for player who falls in the draft. No more semi on the roster. All good.

[yeleven11]

Also from the same guy


" Boston wants to resign Aron Baynes.

He is hearing the same thing others are about Gordon Hayward. He is looking to opt-out. He is looking to resign or find an SnT deal to Dallas. This one is Boston's to lose. He seems to want to resign but with more years and a less competitive market than 2021. "


take it for what it is worth.

great offseason if we replace Kanter with Baynes and Hayward opts out and takes less money over 3-4 years.

Move up for player who falls in the draft. No more semi on the roster. All good.

Re-signing Hayward, using the MLE for Baynes, and then trading up for Haliburton (the Baynes interest has me thinking they prefer Haliburton > Okongwu) would be a great offseason for the Celtics. If re-signing Hayward gets us under the tax, even better.

Kemba-Smart-Edwards
Brown-Haliburton
Hayward-Langford
Tatum-Grant
Baynes-Theis-Timelord

that leaves 3 spots left for option/trade/guarantee decisions on Ojeleye, Green, VP, Kanter, Fall, Waters, Wanamaker.

I would be very happy with this kind of offseason

[JHTruth]

Also from the same guy


" Boston wants to resign Aron Baynes.

He is hearing the same thing others are about Gordon Hayward. He is looking to opt-out. He is looking to resign or find an SnT deal to Dallas. This one is Boston's to lose. He seems to want to resign but with more years and a less competitive market than 2021. "


take it for what it is worth.

Dallas? They must be looking for that third star.

I think Haliburton is the guy in the draft. Hampton is NOT a PG. Want no part of him at all..

[Patsfan1081]

I know that Jaylen is proof that you always can’t judge on efficiency in college but I’ve had enough of guys that have nice releases but haven’t backed it up with efficiency. I want no part of of guys like Maxey or Hampton, we just drafted a boom or bust that needs to improve his shot. There are plenty of shooters in this draft to choose from.

[Bleeding Green]

I guess Hampton is off the board if the media is saying Ainge is interested. Unfortunate. You don't get many chances to draft guys that athletic at 14 in crappy drafts.

[playa-hater]

If GH actually wants Dallas, I would be all over a DFS +their 1st(18) for GH.. Won't happen I guess. But having 2 teen picks leaves Boston in a position to get multiple quality talents or trade up as well. DFS is also a really nice glue player with defense..

[playa-hater]

I guess Hampton is off the board if the media is saying Ainge is interested. Unfortunate. You don't get many chances to draft guys that athletic at 14 in crappy drafts.

Hampton intrigues me. Wouldn't want him as my top 3 choices at 14, but wouldn't hate it either. multi-switchable offensive and defensive talent. BUT ONLY IF Boston is convinced he can be a good shooter..

[Spin Move]

I guess Hampton is off the board if the media is saying Ainge is interested. Unfortunate. You don't get many chances to draft guys that athletic at 14 in crappy drafts.

Hampton intrigues me. Wouldn't want him as my top 3 choices at 14, but wouldn't hate it either. multi-switchable offensive and defensive talent. BUT ONLY IF Boston is convinced he can be a good shooter..

He is not a good shooter, he might become one in the future Here are his stats from a well below Euro level league last year

G MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
15 20.6 3.3 8.2 .407 0.9 2.9 .295 2.5 5.3 .468 1.3 1.9 .679 0.7 3.1 3.9 2.4 1.1 0.3 1.5 1.9 8.8

29.5% from three 46.8% on 2's 67.9 from the line which is really bad for a guard. You can say is really athletic and has potential but right now he is not a good basketball player. He is definitely not a good shooter.

[JHTruth]

I guess Hampton is off the board if the media is saying Ainge is interested. Unfortunate. You don't get many chances to draft guys that athletic at 14 in crappy drafts.

Hampton intrigues me. Wouldn't want him as my top 3 choices at 14, but wouldn't hate it either. multi-switchable offensive and defensive talent. BUT ONLY IF Boston is convinced he can be a good shooter..

He is not a good shooter, he might become one in the future Here are his stats from a well below Euro level league last year

G MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
15 20.6 3.3 8.2 .407 0.9 2.9 .295 2.5 5.3 .468 1.3 1.9 .679 0.7 3.1 3.9 2.4 1.1 0.3 1.5 1.9 8.8

29.5% from three 46.8% on 2's 67.9 from the line which is really bad for a guard. You can say is really athletic and has potential but right now he is not a good basketball player. He is definitely not a good shooter.

He's been building his hype by working with Mike Miller. Hard to project good shooting from just open gym workouts however..

[Spin Move]

Hampton intrigues me. Wouldn't want him as my top 3 choices at 14, but wouldn't hate it either. multi-switchable offensive and defensive talent. BUT ONLY IF Boston is convinced he can be a good shooter..

He is not a good shooter, he might become one in the future Here are his stats from a well below Euro level league last year

G MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
15 20.6 3.3 8.2 .407 0.9 2.9 .295 2.5 5.3 .468 1.3 1.9 .679 0.7 3.1 3.9 2.4 1.1 0.3 1.5 1.9 8.8

29.5% from three 46.8% on 2's 67.9 from the line which is really bad for a guard. You can say is really athletic and has potential but right now he is not a good basketball player. He is definitely not a good shooter.

He's been building his hype by working with Mike Miller. Hard to project good shooting from just open gym workouts however..

Becoming a good shooter takes years at the very least months of repetiton to keep the new shooting motion intstinctual in game situations. He is not right now a good shooter, maybe in 2 years, not right now.

[AgentGreen]

How can Maxey be a bad shooter when he's shooting 83.3% from the line? It's all about shot election and the support you have on your team which could force some players, like Maxey, to take more shots then necessary. All his weaknesses are the type young players have at his age and most of these are very easy to polish. He's by far one of the most NBA ready guards in this draft and for such a young age that's quite special. Biggest sleeper in the guards category imo. If there wouldve been a March Madness and a draft combine, he'd be a lottery pick in most mocks.

People are really staring blindly at the strength and weakness points in the breakdown highlights. It says enough about how much time some invest in some players when they watch their breakdown. Even when the breakdown analyst counters some weaknesses with some good points i.e. why some stats look bad while in reality the player is a good shooter or finisher at the rim.

[31to6]

From, as ConstableGeneva says, the oft-quoted Hawks insider:

BOS - Is a team looking to move up but not too high. This is where #8 NY could come into play if the right guy drops. He was told that Haliburton or Okongwu has piqued their interest.

Looks like The Comedian and Captain Green were right about Haliburton.

Okongwu! That’s what I’m talking about!

[BostonCouchGM]

Meanwhile there are some Gems that can be had in RD2 of every draft.

There are 5 players I am having a hard time choosing between in RD 2.. so please help.

All I have are videos and reports to go by. All look promising. I think I know who I want as top choice, but so damn close.

I would love Boston to go after a potentially solid role playing guard/wing that seems may available at 30 -47th pick..

Of course there are other positions/players in RD 2 as well. But between these 5, who is your top choice?

Elijah Hughes 6'6 SG. Good shooting overall, with some decent creativity.

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Isaiah Joe - 6'5 SG - is he a prolific shooter or a high volume shooter?? plays decent defense as well.

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Immanuel Quickley - 6'3 Combo Guard. defends very well and has a solid knock down jumper. Long arms.. can play 2 positions

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Nate Hinton 6'5 SG possible the toughest Offense/defense/rebounding combination of the group.

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Cassius Stanley 6'6 SG - maybe the best finisher and up and down player. Was he held back a bit at Duke (like Tatum) good shooter and defender as well.

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Love Quickley. I think he could be a great bench piece with potential for more. I doubt he makes it to our 2nd though.

Stanley is Jaylen Brown 2.0. He can thank Coach K for not showcasing him because there's nothing separating him from Jaylen except Jaylen got more touches on a bad team so his PPG were higher. They're literally the same player. The ONLY reason I didn't put him in the first round of my Big Board (that could change) is because players as gifted as him that have gone to Duke have historically been showcased and he wasn't. So why? Work ethic? Personality clash with Coach K? He's the draft's biggest mystery to me because of that. Physically and athletically he's right there with Edwards so why is he not being mocked in the 1st? I personally think Coach K has lost it. I don't think he knows how to coach in the era of one and done. He still gets the players but he doesn't maximize or showcase them. This goes back several years from what I've witnessed.

I don't think Hughes, Hinton or Joe have a chance to be drafted because we already have Langford. The reason why Stanley could be drafted is because he has the length and athleticism to defend 1-3.

[BostonCouchGM]

He is not a good shooter, he might become one in the future Here are his stats from a well below Euro level league last year

G MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
15 20.6 3.3 8.2 .407 0.9 2.9 .295 2.5 5.3 .468 1.3 1.9 .679 0.7 3.1 3.9 2.4 1.1 0.3 1.5 1.9 8.8

29.5% from three 46.8% on 2's 67.9 from the line which is really bad for a guard. You can say is really athletic and has potential but right now he is not a good basketball player. He is definitely not a good shooter.

He's been building his hype by working with Mike Miller. Hard to project good shooting from just open gym workouts however..

Becoming a good shooter takes years at the very least months of repetiton to keep the new shooting motion intstinctual in game situations. He is not right now a good shooter, maybe in 2 years, not right now.

Kawhi did it in the Summer before his rookie season and has been consistently the same 3 pt shooter since. He was a 29% shooter in college. You can't teach size, length, athleticism, drive and work ethic. If Hampton has those things he could change. Lonzo also completely transformed his shot from year 2 to 3 with great results.

[Spin Move]

He's been building his hype by working with Mike Miller. Hard to project good shooting from just open gym workouts however..

Becoming a good shooter takes years at the very least months of repetiton to keep the new shooting motion intstinctual in game situations. He is not right now a good shooter, maybe in 2 years, not right now.

Kawhi did it in the Summer before his rookie season and has been consistently the same 3 pt shooter since. He was a 29% shooter in college. You can't teach size, length, athleticism, drive and work ethic. If Hampton has those things he could change. Lonzo also completely transformed his shot from year 2 to 3 with great results.

Lonzo Ball shot 56.6% from the line this year He shot 40% from the field, yes he 3 point numbers are respectable now but he is not a good shooter, pretending otherwise is silly. Can someone become an average shooter, even a good one with enough work yes, but 90% don't and he (RJ) is not an incredbile athlete he is a very good one. He is not a true point and is average size for a 2. Yes he is fast but that alone is not enough.