PhilLeotardo wrote:So many deluded takes lol. That team was never getting to the finals, no matter what. They always had a low ceiling & were overachieving. No team under PaxGar was ever going to experienced sustained success because no major pieces ever wanted to work under them, plain & simple
Lol Rose’s stats were actually down almost across the board over the 29 games or whatever it was prior to him tearing his ACL. I believe the only categories where his stats spiked were rebounds & 3p% (just because he was chucking up more of them). He was what he was: a low IQ combo guard who couldn’t shoot, didn’t have good vision, and was a poor defender. I don’t see where or how he would’ve gotten THAT much better. He’s cleaned some things up over the years, but he’s still the same dude he’s always been
While his MVP season was exciting, it’s pretty inarguably the most hilariously undeserved MVP award they’ve ever given out, and was only done because the NBA were so desperate for Chicago to get back on top (they eventually gave up trying to help the Bulls once it became apparent that Jerry was never going to fire PaxGar). Everyone knows LBJ was the MVP that season. And whaddya know: Rose goes down, and the team still wins like 50 games LOL! Typically, when an “mvp” goes down, his team falls of a cliff. Hence the “most valuable” thing, ya know? Just sayin. Bulls were still essentially the same team, just didn’t have anyone who could get his own shot. Everyone knows Thibs & his defensive schemes were the MVPs of those squads
All in all, I think it could be said that Rose is the most overrated player of the modern era. He had ONE great (overrated) season. That’s literally it. One season. Solid rookie campaign, pretty good sophomoric outing, his “MVP” year, and then that was it. Mediocrity-to-downright poor from there on out
It’s also comical how much people talk about his little acl tear or whatever. Lol lots of guys tear ACLs & bounce back just fine eventually. You’d think the guy got his leg amputated by the way people refer to that injury. The guy has crap knees, always. Combine that with the fact that his ceiling wasn’t going to get much higher (where? How? At what?), and not a whole lot would have been different had he never torn it
You know a fan base is in dire straits & has been decimated by toxic ownership when they’re still reminiscing about a guy who had ONE (ONE!) great season a decade ago
literally (the correct use of the term, unlike yours) almost every sentence here is sheer nonsense. i don't think it's a coincidence that the post is also littered with 'lol's
just at random i'll respond to a few points:
-the last sentence...we're not reminiscing about derrick's one great season. we're speculating about what would have happened had injury not ruined his career, thus preventing MORE great seasons. it's right in the damn thread title!
-the stats presented on derrick's MVP followup season are way off. he was nearly as good that season prior to the ACL
-know what other MVP didn't have his team fall off the cliff when he was out? michael damn jordan
-"thibs and his defensive schemes" have never been the MVP of any team. the celtics had great defensive personnel as did the bulls. the wolves didn't and had terrible defenses under thibs
-if rose was "the most overrated player of the modern era" he'd be a shoo-in for the HOF as the youngest MVP ever whose career was sabotaged by injury. but he's not, because his career is viewed appropriately as a shooting star that fizzled
i don't feel like continuing. shame you didn't feel the same way early on in your weird, misguided rant
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