2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still

[Pointgod]

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So damning. This guy talks like Pete Butiegieg - very effective communicator.

I want Pete to run for a Senate seat or Governor of Indiana.

[thebuzzardman]

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Damn. Tore him the proverbial new assh*le

[EricAnderson]

I can't believe any polls, nor exit polls because methodology changes the results and at this point I'm not sure I can even believe ballot counts in any state the Reps have any control over the state's election process. They have proven to be cheaters and liars in every way possible.

Your concerns aside, the massive increase in early voting turn-out is not conjectural though, it's a fact. That turn-out is not randomly favorable to either party. It is decisively a wave of blue voters. Not saying there can't be complications due to procedure, but the implications of the turn-out are pretty clear

I think a lot of us still have PTSD from the last election and the polling

Iam not taking anything for granted or thinking it’s in the bag but at the same time the polls are much more in Biden’s favor then Hillary’s.

People forget after that comey thing dropped the polls became 50/50.

I think Trump would need something huge to happen to turn things around at this point.

[Clyde_Style]

I can't believe any polls, nor exit polls because methodology changes the results and at this point I'm not sure I can even believe ballot counts in any state the Reps have any control over the state's election process. They have proven to be cheaters and liars in every way possible.

Your concerns aside, the massive increase in early voting turn-out is not conjectural though, it's a fact. That turn-out is not randomly favorable to either party. It is decisively a wave of blue voters. Not saying there can't be complications due to procedure, but the implications of the turn-out are pretty clear

I'm definitely encouraged that voters have chosen to vote early at such a high rate not leaving it up to last minute voting that can be more easily thwarted by the Reps consistent efforts to suppress it.

I still don't trust the states that have Rep controlled processes because it's not how many or who votes, it's how many get counted and who does the counting.

If most of the swing states were under GOP control a coordinated cheat might be possible, but it would require unprecedented efforts when Biden's margins are what they are. And Biden's election night totals should produce margins in quite a few states that will likely exceed any remaining percentage of uncounted mail ballots.

IOW, the spread in most cases favor Biden to the extent that even a cheat won't give Trump the edge. If this was close in every battleground state, then I would be right there with you agreeing that fraud was likely and a coordinated cheat could happen, but the gap is too big to coordinate an outright theft this time.

The GOP is mostly run by Nazi collaborators now and I wouldn't put anything past them in most cases either so I understand the sentiment. But for every state political hierarchy to pull off a coup like this means every single one of them risks prison if it fails and they are busted for it by the winning party.

Keep that in mind, because criminals are not families that stick together. At the end of the day, the Trump mafia will devolve back to its nuclear unit of Trump and his kids. Crooks like the GOP peel off in their support or willingness to risk their own necks when the downside significantly outweighs the upside like this election has become for them. They're thieves, not gamblers and McConnell clearly has already written Trump off so I don't expect anything on the scale you're thinking of will happen.

[Clyde_Style]

I can't believe any polls, nor exit polls because methodology changes the results and at this point I'm not sure I can even believe ballot counts in any state the Reps have any control over the state's election process. They have proven to be cheaters and liars in every way possible.

Your concerns aside, the massive increase in early voting turn-out is not conjectural though, it's a fact. That turn-out is not randomly favorable to either party. It is decisively a wave of blue voters. Not saying there can't be complications due to procedure, but the implications of the turn-out are pretty clear

I think a lot of us still have PTSD from the last election and the polling

Iam not taking anything for granted or thinking it’s in the bag but at the same time the polls are much more in Biden’s favor then Hillary’s.

People forget after that comey thing dropped the polls became 50/50.

I think Trump would need something huge to happen to turn things around at this point.

I'm not a Republican, but I am an elephant and I forget nothing. James Comey is a villain in my book, because he was just trying to cover his ass and instead he completely shat the bed. Hillary did nothing wrong and he was way out of line. It did throw the election.

But the margins were much closer then. AND, this massive early voting wave is locking in far more votes so the window for a late surprise is dwindling hard. And every attempt by Trump's people to generate an October Surprise has been a joke while the scandals and law suits against Trump keep growing daily. If anything, I'd expect another shocking revelation about Trump to come out before November 3rd.

They clearly have got nothing on Biden just like they never found any dirt on Obama. Joe sniffs kids hair. That's about it, so nah I don't expect anything to tip it suddenly in Trump's favor. If something happens it will be something that makes Trump voters stay at home on Nov. 3

Trump is like a gift basket of crime. There are literally a thousand people with dirt on him who can drop a bomb at any time.

[Handledatruth]

I definitely do not believe this

A+ rated poll on 538 has trump +4

Yeah toss this one in the trash.

Wingo is not giving that one up till he's done masturbating. You'll have to fight him for it. He'll only be using one hand to defend himself so it should be easy.

I'm not even looking at polls anymore. The voting turnout for counties that went blue for both Clinton and Beto are eye-opening. Not saying that the increase is all blue, but I don't know how anyone in the GOP is not concerned here. Mathematically, Blue Texas is a real possibility. Check out Harris, Dallas, and Travis county for example and compare them to turnout in both 2016 and 2018 (plenty of sources there).

https://earlyvoting.texas-election.com/Elections/getElectionDetails.do *fixing link

[Pointgod]

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Damn. Tore him the proverbial new assh*le

I mean the thing is that this form of attack works against every single Senator that’s running right now. They’re the party of Trump. This could play even in Red States because it’s absolutely true and Republicans have been heartless about.

[stuporman]

Trump is like a grift basket of crime. There are literally a thousand people with dirt on him who can drop a bomb at any time.

fixed....

[HarthorneWingo]

Economy going down was definitely 100% trump but i would also argue that the slight recovery thus far is due to obama.Obamas economy.

This is your big economic recovery? We’re about to explode with COVID cases. What effect do you think that’ll have on the economy?

Btw, what was Trump’s brilliant move to spur this “Trump economic boom”?

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/29/business/us-economy-coronavirus?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/29/upshot/american-economy-gdp-numbers.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

[HarthorneWingo]

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So damning. This guy talks like Pete Butiegieg - very effective communicator.

I want Pete to run for a Senate seat or Governor of Indiana.

Let Pete Buttigieg stay in Indiana.

[stuporman]

Texas GOP controlled state elections decided to limit polling places to one per county that includes the one that Houston population +4mil is in, Harris I believe it's called and they gave one single drive through lane for people to drop them off.

Then they turn around to turn around and sue to get them thrown out because they are 'curb side service' that they say is only meant for disabled and sick(um..pandemic?) but weren't they the ones who offered that limited ability to drop off ballots?

If that isn't an election fraud I don't know what is, create hoop to jump through to vote then want to throw out ballots because they jumped through the hoop. The judge should put block them from contesting anything again regarding this election cycle.

[stuporman]

Economy going down was definitely 100% trump but i would also argue that the slight recovery thus far is due to obama.Obamas economy.

This is your big economic recovery? We’re about to explode with COVID cases. What effect do you think that’ll have on the economy?

Btw, what was Trump’s brilliant move to spur this “Trump economic boom”?

Just like his whole life he inherited a good situation and proceeded to blow it up with terrible decisions and bad business acumen.

Obama inherited a crashed economy yet the stock market increased in percentage more in his first three years than it did under Trump's first three years.

Obama created more jobs in his final three years than Trump in his first three years, that was before the pandemic, Trump has lost all the jobs he created and some of Obama's.

Job growth slowed under Trump and one third of all counties in the US lost wealth under Trump.

It's like he walked up to an already existing campfire he didn't build and threw gas on it, tax breaks for the rich and corporations, which burned very hot for a short time but then burned down the forest.

That is Trump's term and pretty much his whole life's pattern.

[DOT]

Economy going down was definitely 100% trump but i would also argue that the slight recovery thus far is due to obama.Obamas economy.

This is your big economic recovery? We’re about to explode with COVID cases. What effect do you think that’ll have on the economy?

Btw, what was Trump’s brilliant move to spur this “Trump economic boom”?

Just like his whole life he inherited a good situation and proceeded to blow it up with terrible decisions and bad business acumen.

Obama inherited a crashed economy yet the stock market increased in percentage more in his first three years than it did under Trump's first three years.

Obama created more jobs in his final three years than Trump in his first three years, that was before the pandemic, Trump has lost all the jobs he created and some of Obama's.

Job growth slowed under Trump and one third of all counties in the US lost wealth under Trump.

It's like he walked up to an already existing campfire he didn't build and threw gas on it, tax breaks for the rich and corporations, which burned very hot for a short time but then burned down the forest.

That is Trump's term and pretty much his whole life's pattern.

Born on 3rd, stole 2nd, tells everyone he hit a walk off grand slam

And 40% of the country believes him despite watching it with their own eyes.

[Handledatruth]

Texas GOP controlled state elections decided to limit polling places to one per county that includes the one that Houston population +4mil is in, Harris I believe it's called and they gave one single drive through lane for people to drop them off.

Then they turn around to turn around and sue to get them thrown out because they are 'curb side service' that they say is only meant for disabled and sick(um..pandemic?) but weren't they the ones who offered that limited ability to drop off ballots?

If that isn't an election fraud I don't know what is, create hoop to jump through to vote then want to throw out ballots because they jumped through the hoop. The judge should put block them from contesting anything again regarding this election cycle.

Harris County still has a surge of early voters though. Its not all doom there. Something's happening regardless of what tricks were played by the GOP.

Edit for more detail. In 2016 1,312,112 voted in Harris County. As of today 1,271,975 have already voted in the county out of 2.4 million registered voters. Texas does not keep party registration numbers in this data, but I if that county has the same vote trend...

[stuporman]

Texas GOP controlled state elections decided to limit polling places to one per county that includes the one that Houston population +4mil is in, Harris I believe it's called and they gave one single drive through lane for people to drop them off.

Then they turn around to turn around and sue to get them thrown out because they are 'curb side service' that they say is only meant for disabled and sick(um..pandemic?) but weren't they the ones who offered that limited ability to drop off ballots?

If that isn't an election fraud I don't know what is, create hoop to jump through to vote then want to throw out ballots because they jumped through the hoop. The judge should put block them from contesting anything again regarding this election cycle.

Harris County still has a surge of early voters though. Its not all doom there. Something's happening regardless of what tricks were played by the GOP.

The ruling hasn't been made on their suit yet and if the conservative judges agree with the conservative party suing then 100k+ ballots get thrown out, it may even be closer to a quarter million ballots by the time election day comes and that decides the winner in Texas depending on this ruling.

[stuporman]

This is your big economic recovery? We’re about to explode with COVID cases. What effect do you think that’ll have on the economy?

Btw, what was Trump’s brilliant move to spur this “Trump economic boom”?

Just like his whole life he inherited a good situation and proceeded to blow it up with terrible decisions and bad business acumen.

Obama inherited a crashed economy yet the stock market increased in percentage more in his first three years than it did under Trump's first three years.

Obama created more jobs in his final three years than Trump in his first three years, that was before the pandemic, Trump has lost all the jobs he created and some of Obama's.

Job growth slowed under Trump and one third of all counties in the US lost wealth under Trump.

It's like he walked up to an already existing campfire he didn't build and threw gas on it, tax breaks for the rich and corporations, which burned very hot for a short time but then burned down the forest.

That is Trump's term and pretty much his whole life's pattern.

Born on 3rd, stole 2nd, got called out at home but tells everyone he hit a walk off grand slam

And 40% of the country believes him despite watching it with their own eyes.

amended for accuracy.....

[Handledatruth]

Texas GOP controlled state elections decided to limit polling places to one per county that includes the one that Houston population +4mil is in, Harris I believe it's called and they gave one single drive through lane for people to drop them off.

Then they turn around to turn around and sue to get them thrown out because they are 'curb side service' that they say is only meant for disabled and sick(um..pandemic?) but weren't they the ones who offered that limited ability to drop off ballots?

If that isn't an election fraud I don't know what is, create hoop to jump through to vote then want to throw out ballots because they jumped through the hoop. The judge should put block them from contesting anything again regarding this election cycle.

Harris County still has a surge of early voters though. Its not all doom there. Something's happening regardless of what tricks were played by the GOP.

The ruling hasn't been made on their suit yet and if the conservative judges agree with the conservative party suing then 100k+ ballots get thrown out, it may even be closer to a quarter million ballots by the time election day comes and that decides the winner in Texas depending on this ruling.

I added this to my previous post, but these numbers look good.

In 2016 1,312,112 voted in Harris County. As of today 1,271,975 have already voted in the county out of 2.4 million registered voters. Of that total, only 162,950 are by mail. They can try, but the margins are already showing some bad signs for them.

[stuporman]

Harris County still has a surge of early voters though. Its not all doom there. Something's happening regardless of what tricks were played by the GOP.

The ruling hasn't been made on their suit yet and if the conservative judges agree with the conservative party suing then 100k+ ballots get thrown out, it may even be closer to a quarter million ballots by the time election day comes and that decides the winner in Texas depending on this ruling.

I added this to my previous post, but these numbers look good.

In 2016 1,312,112 voted in Harris County. As of today 1,271,975 have already voted in the county out of 2.4 million registered voters. Of that total, only 162,950 are by mail. They can try, but the margins are already showing some bad signs for them.

What do they mean 'by mail' though? ones with a post mark in the envelope are by mail but the ones dropped off at drop boxes and have no post mark are not?

Still if the judge rules in the GOP favor regarding those dropped off at the drive through polling places then the GOP will use that ruling to throw out every ballot that was cast that way in the state.

This ruling is so crucial.

[Pointgod]

The ruling hasn't been made on their suit yet and if the conservative judges agree with the conservative party suing then 100k+ ballots get thrown out, it may even be closer to a quarter million ballots by the time election day comes and that decides the winner in Texas depending on this ruling.

I added this to my previous post, but these numbers look good.

In 2016 1,312,112 voted in Harris County. As of today 1,271,975 have already voted in the county out of 2.4 million registered voters. Of that total, only 162,950 are by mail. They can try, but the margins are already showing some bad signs for them.

What do they mean 'by mail' though? ones with a post mark in the envelope are by mail but the ones dropped off at drop boxes and have no post mark are not?

Still if the judge rules in the GOP favor regarding those dropped off at the drive through polling places then the GOP will use that ruling to throw out every ballot that was cast that way in the state.

This ruling is so crucial.

The thing is that well one it might not even matter because Biden can easily get to 270 without Texas, but even if it goes to the Supreme Court based on the laws in Texas drive through voting falls within the law. I’m sure the election commissioner consulted with lawyers in anticipation of exactly the GOP pulling this bull. All they’re doing is grasping at straws if it’s close because they know they can’t win outright

[stuporman]

I added this to my previous post, but these numbers look good.

In 2016 1,312,112 voted in Harris County. As of today 1,271,975 have already voted in the county out of 2.4 million registered voters. Of that total, only 162,950 are by mail. They can try, but the margins are already showing some bad signs for them.

What do they mean 'by mail' though? ones with a post mark in the envelope are by mail but the ones dropped off at drop boxes and have no post mark are not?

Still if the judge rules in the GOP favor regarding those dropped off at the drive through polling places then the GOP will use that ruling to throw out every ballot that was cast that way in the state.

This ruling is so crucial.

The thing is that well one it might not even matter because Biden can easily get to 270 without Texas, but even if it goes to the Supreme Court based on the laws in Texas drive through voting falls within the law. I’m sure the election commissioner consulted with lawyers in anticipation of exactly the GOP pulling this bull. All they’re doing is grasping at straws if it’s close because they know they can’t win outright

Election processes falls under the purview of the Secretary of State Ruth Ruggero Hughs... a republican. So, I wouldn't be surprised if this was done purposefully in anticipation of exactly the GOP pulling this bull.

There is stuff like this going on in all of the battleground states because republicans can't win if people get to vote and they know it.