2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

[winsomme2]

I say you overpay if it doesn't cost you any of your core. This is the last time we'll be in any position to draft in the top 10 for a very very long time. Have to make it count..

And I believe players at 11-15 are on the same Tier as players between 6-10. In most cases. I still would rather Boston package 26+30 or 26+47 to get back into the teens.

I am still all over a Nesmith+Precious type of combo in RD1

Meh I think Hayes/Haliburton/OO are significantly better than Hampton/Maxey/Cole Anthony/Precious type players. Move up if you can...

I think there's another grouping in between those that is very comparable to Haliburton/Okongwu:

Patrick Williams
Kira Lewis
Tyrell Terry

I think each is not a significant drop off from the H+O.

I actually like Lewis better than Hali.

[JHTruth]

And I believe players at 11-15 are on the same Tier as players between 6-10. In most cases. I still would rather Boston package 26+30 or 26+47 to get back into the teens.

I am still all over a Nesmith+Precious type of combo in RD1

Meh I think Hayes/Haliburton/OO are significantly better than Hampton/Maxey/Cole Anthony/Precious type players. Move up if you can...

I think there's another grouping in between those that is very comparable to Haliburton/Okongwu:

Patrick Williams
Kira Lewis
Tyrell Terry

I think each is not a significant drop off from the H+O.

I actually like Lewis better than Hali.

I really like P Williams. Probably just as much as OO. Not sold on Kira yet but could be convinced. Think I like him more than Hampton for sure..

[captain green]

Lewis and Terry are on my do not draft at all list. Lewis : frail pg who is streaky shooter and got beat in the paint in college level nope no thanks. Terry: basically same as Lewis but ng 6’2 and 160 lbs, Terry will be targeted by opposing offenses every time he steps on the floor just as he was in college. The lesser opposition had success against Terry at the college level and that will only be magnified at the NBA level. Williams I like the dude toug as nails. No thank you to literally ever little guard we have four already. Here is question for you . Do you think speed and smallness win in NBA? And if so list why you think it moves the needle as opposed to it never worked before?

[themoneyteam2]

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Yikes...

[Kalela]

Lewis and Terry are on my do not draft at all list. Lewis : frail pg who is streaky shooter and got beat in the paint in college level nope no thanks. Terry: basically same as Lewis but ng 6’2 and 160 lbs, Terry will be targeted by opposing offenses every time he steps on the floor just as he was in college. The lesser opposition had success against Terry at the college level and that will only be magnified at the NBA level. Williams I like the dude toug as nails. No thank you to literally ever little guard we have four already. Here is question for you . Do you think speed and smallness win in NBA? And if so list why you think it moves the needle as opposed to it never worked before?

[31to6]

Help me I finally watched a Robert Woodard video and now believe he's a more athletic Paul Pierce. If they hadn't moved this draft back a month it would've already happened, right? Can we go with that?

Hoping:
14 - S. Bey
26 - Oturo
30 - Woodard or Maledon or another Bey or Nnaji or whatever (Hinton's cool too)
47 - probs a Mormon

Expecting:
14 - Cole Anthony
26 - traded for a conditional second
30 - Tillman
47 - traded for nothing

[GoGreen]

Lewis and Terry are on my do not draft at all list. Lewis : frail pg who is streaky shooter and got beat in the paint in college level nope no thanks. Terry: basically same as Lewis but ng 6’2 and 160 lbs, Terry will be targeted by opposing offenses every time he steps on the floor just as he was in college. The lesser opposition had success against Terry at the college level and that will only be magnified at the NBA level. Williams I like the dude toug as nails. No thank you to literally ever little guard we have four already. Here is question for you . Do you think speed and smallness win in NBA? And if so list why you think it moves the needle as opposed to it never worked before?

Yea, agree for the most part. But didn't Terry grow an inch and add like 25lbs? That the word, anyway

[snowman]

Help me I finally watched a Robert Woodard video and now believe he's a more athletic Paul Pierce. If they hadn't moved this draft back a month it would've already happened, right? Can we go with that?

Hoping:
14 - S. Bey
26 - Oturo
30 - Woodard or Maledon or another Bey or Nnaji or whatever (Hinton's cool too)
47 - probs a Mormon

Expecting:
14 - Cole Anthony
26 - traded for a conditional second
30 - Tillman
47 - traded for nothing

I'm hoping:
14 - Saddiq Bey
26 - Daniel Oturu
30 - Tre Jones
47 - Killian Tillie

Expecting:
14 - Pokusevski (draft and stash)
26 - Maledon (draft and stash)
30 - traded for a future 2nd
47 - Killian Tillie

After which I will officially start the fire Danny thread.

[Spin Move]

I'm Hoping: a trade
if not depnding on availability
#14 Aaron Nesmith/Jalen Smith
#26 Daniel Oturo/Jaden Mcdaniels
#30 Paul Reed/ Desmand Bane
#47 Devin in Dotson
I am expecting
#14 Cole Anthony
#26 Oturo
30#Draft and stash whoever of Maledon/Bolmero is available
#47 TIlle

[HomeGrown]

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[Bill Lumbergh]

#14 - Hampton, Lewis or Bey
26 - Bane, Oturo or Riller
30 - Riller, Tyler Bey, Reed or Joe
47 - Hinton, Joe or Scrubb

I'd be happy with that.

[ConstableGeneva]

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[Half-Full]

I don't think this has been posted here. It is the best, most comprehensive look at the Celtics regarding their financial status (cap and luxury tax), and how it impacts the draft and the situation with Gordon Hayward. Based on this, it doesn't look likely that we will be using all the draft picks to add more players to the team. More likely that some or all of the picks will be traded. Anyway, the article offers some interesting scenarios.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/celtics-offseason-preview-one-gordon-hayward-trade-destination-stands-out-but-his-fate-is-still-in-question/

[Curmudgeon]

I'm surprised to see Saddiq Bey slip in a number of mock drafts. Is there a reason for this?

[JHTruth]

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Um duh. These "pro-day" workouts are designed to hype these prospects to the sky. Not give the GMs any real insight..

[JHTruth]

I'm surprised to see Saddiq Bey slip in a number of mock drafts. Is there a reason for this?

I don't have any insider info but have seen reports that teams are nervous that his shot won't translate because it's a low-arcing shot and a bit slow.

Also he is slow with a poor first step. Will be relegated to spot-up shooter in the NBA. In the lottery teams generally want guys with 3-level, at least 2-level scoring potential..

[Shak_Celts]

Been looking at a lot of videos, I have quite a few guys I like and I know one thing for sure, I want us to get Terry and Hinton with 2 of our picks. Terry is a shhhhooootttaa and what CBS loves, a smart baller! Hinton is a dog!!! I have seen their weaknesses and I don't care, I want them!!

[Shak_Celts]

Oturu moves like Whiteside to me.


Have looked at so many videos over the last few days, I am getting dizzy.

Bey looked slow and so boring to me. Slow and steady wins the race, so they say.

Edwards: I like a guy who will hit from curry range then yam it in your mouth the next possession.

Maxey: looks like an ambidextrous goat. Can lock you on D. Looks like he has range and it looks good coming from him but I was surprised when I saw the numbers from 3. Looks are deceiving.

Bane: haven't seen his stats but his highlights of running around screens like a pro and downing the shots look good and what we need.

Kira: looks like Fox but everyone says that. He does hit you with a hesi then zooms past you. Only highlights but his balance is impeccable!

[BostonCouchGM]

I don't think this has been posted here. It is the best, most comprehensive look at the Celtics regarding their financial status (cap and luxury tax), and how it impacts the draft and the situation with Gordon Hayward. Based on this, it doesn't look likely that we will be using all the draft picks to add more players to the team. More likely that some or all of the picks will be traded. Anyway, the article offers some interesting scenarios.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/celtics-offseason-preview-one-gordon-hayward-trade-destination-stands-out-but-his-fate-is-still-in-question/

Danny's hubris won't allow him to move on from any of the disastrous picks from last season. So if it comes down to him choosing a far superior prospect in this draft resulting in him needing to drop/trade the player(s) chosen in last year's draft, and trading the pick, he's going to trade the pick. He wants the illusion of a war chest so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he traded one, two or all three of the first rounders for 2021 picks and just used the 2nd rounder to choose a player. On one hand, the 2021 class is incredible and more picks in it is a good thing. On the other, if he drafted well in this draft class we could fill all the holes we have with FA losses and last year's bad draft picks which would fix our horrible bench and prepare us for impending losses like Hayward and Theis.

There's history to back this up. He took the severely underwhelming Jordan Mickey and RJ Hampton in 2015 and still had James Young from the 2014 draft when we entered the 2016 draft loaded with 5 of the first 35 picks and 7 picks overall in a similarly deep draft as this one. He laughably claimed there was a roster crunch so he took Yabusele and Zizic as draft and stashes and traded the #30 and #35 picks. Hilariously, after the draft when asked why he didn't take a PG with the #3 pick he claimed he was set at PG. But he actually took Demetrius Jackson in the 2nd round and gave him a guaranteed contract so he was completely full of shite. Of course, none of the sycophants in the Celtics media would call him on it.

Within a year Mickey, Hampton and Young were all let go. Players Danny passed on because of some made up roster crunch? Caris LeVert, Malcolm Brogdon, Dejounte Murray, Pascal Siakam and Ivica Zubac. It's incredible how Danny can screw up this bad and still have defenders lining up to make excuses for him. I can't wait to hear them when he does something like this again in this draft. I have a feeling that if he does, and ownership has to watch guys Danny passed on one more time, succeed elsewhere, they'll be fed up enough to move on from him, especially because if he does, our bench will still be terrible and we'll have no shot at a title.

[31to6]

Spoiler:

I don't think this has been posted here. It is the best, most comprehensive look at the Celtics regarding their financial status (cap and luxury tax), and how it impacts the draft and the situation with Gordon Hayward. Based on this, it doesn't look likely that we will be using all the draft picks to add more players to the team. More likely that some or all of the picks will be traded. Anyway, the article offers some interesting scenarios.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/celtics-offseason-preview-one-gordon-hayward-trade-destination-stands-out-but-his-fate-is-still-in-question/

Danny's hubris won't allow him to move on from any of the disastrous picks from last season. So if it comes down to him choosing a far superior prospect in this draft resulting in him needing to drop/trade the player(s) chosen in last year's draft, and trading the pick, he's going to trade the pick. He wants the illusion of a war chest so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he traded one, two or all three of the first rounders for 2021 picks and just used the 2nd rounder to choose a player. On one hand, the 2021 class is incredible and more picks in it is a good thing. On the other, if he drafted well in this draft class we could fill all the holes we have with FA losses and last year's bad draft picks which would fix our horrible bench and prepare us for impending losses like Hayward and Theis.

There's history to back this up. He took the severely underwhelming Jordan Mickey and RJ Hampton in 2015 and still had James Young from the 2014 draft when we entered the 2016 draft loaded with 5 of the first 35 picks and 7 picks overall in a similarly deep draft as this one. He laughably claimed there was a roster crunch so he took Yabusele and Zizic as draft and stashes and traded the #30 and #35 picks. Hilariously, after the draft when asked why he didn't take a PG with the #3 pick he claimed he was set at PG. But he actually took Demetrius Jackson in the 2nd round and gave him a guaranteed contract so he was completely full of shite. Of course, none of the sycophants in the Celtics media would call him on it.

Within a year Mickey, Hampton and Young were all let go. Players Danny passed on because of some made up roster crunch? Caris LeVert, Malcolm Brogdon, Dejounte Murray, Pascal Siakam and Ivica Zubac. It's incredible how Danny can screw up this bad and still have defenders lining up to make excuses for him. I can't wait to hear them when he does something like this again in this draft. I have a feeling that if he does, and ownership has to watch guys Danny passed on one more time, succeed elsewhere, they'll be fed up enough to move on from him, especially because if he does, our bench will still be terrible and we'll have no shot at a title.

CouchGM is like “nyahnyahnyah yahnyahnyah you will never get this” but maybe this year Danny Ainge break his cage and he GET THIS high five