2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still

[rammagen]

Glenn Greenwald is throwing a temper tantrum because he went all in on the wrong side of the Mueller report and instead of admitting that he was wrong he just dug in deeper to the point where he’s trying to report unsubstantiated misinformation without researching it himself. How hard is it to reach out to Rudy and try to substantiate their own reporting. Last I checked the Intercept doesn’t bill itself as tabloid, I have no idea why they’d want to run a Rudy smear campaign. When Medhi Hasan calls you out on your ****, you’ve really lost your way.

Greenwald and Matt Taibi both write as if some certain eastern European superpower has compromising information on them.

And I used to like Taibi, but his writing really sucks horribly for the last 5 years

And many years before them, Geraldo Rivera. Sellouts, garbabe reporting, pieces of trash.Will Greenwald wind up at Fox, too?

LOL ifI had to answer that or the Onion, I find the Onion a better news source then Fox

[Pointgod]

You know you're in a failed state when not all votes might be counted. This shouldn't even be a topic in the modern world. When the head of state openly promotes that (and provides no logical arguments, doesn't even attempt to), it's even worse than what you could possibly imagine. This is as bad as it gets anywhere you look around the world.

Four years later, the state of the USA is disastrous. This is a country in flames with basically no guaranteed human rights left. None. It really is that bad.

Take a step back, breathe and you realize: Civilization as a whole has been ripped down and eroded.

What you’re describing as the fall of a failed state is entirely the doing of the Republican Party. After the Supreme Court gutted the voting rights act it was Republicans that that enacted voter suppression on steroids. Before Trump, there was no talking of not counting votes, sending thugs to intimidate voters at the polls or that the results have to be called on election night. Republicans are the reason that the US is a failed state. Democrats are the only hope to make any changes. They want everyone to vote, they want people to vote safely, they want election security, they want make it easier to vote, go down the list and one party is directly responsible for driving the country down the path of destruction.

I wouldn't necessarily disagree, but nobody stopped them. There are also no consequences awaiting those who spread misinformation. FOX is criminal, but don't face any legal action. NY Post, Bannon etc.

There isn't even a threshold and that's actually the surprise. No regulations, no consequences, anything goes.

Well first amendment and all that so you can’t hold Fox accountable unless you change the laws. Sure Fox is harmful, but the best remedy for that is for people to reduce the power of the Republican Party. Sure Fox can keep talking to a ceiling of 30% of the voters (it’s actually smaller in absolute numbers) but the whole point should be for that 30% to never, ever get close to the levers of power. The only tool you really have is voting.

[stuporman]

I’m kinda glad he pointed that out, I don’t know if I use that terminology without thinking about it but I’m going to try to be mindful not to going forward I’m sure there are better ways to express it, off the rails maybe

I live in the southwest so maybe that's why I have a higher awareness of the treatment of the indigenous peoples but I don't think it should be too much of a stretch to think anyone who lives here in the Americas and is non-indigenous would be aware of the history.

What's even more disgusting is the discrimination and ill treatment isn't even a thing of the past, it still is going on. So continuing to use a phrase that suggests they don't stay in their place is somehow akin to being 'crazy', or negative can be seen as offensive.

Thanks, PC police

This is why people think centrist liberals are implicitly contributing just like right wing explicit bigotry to the problem and not really interested in addressing the systematic injustices and discrimination that permeates society because it's too much of an inconvenience to them to actually give a fuch about people's oppression and suffering.

When it comes to something as simple of being aware of how language can create a hostile environment for marginalized people and just choosing different words to communicate certain things some people rather attack those who bring awareness to it as the ones who are the problem and criticize them for doing so.

I look forward to your 'why I left the left' coming out video telling everyone how horrible it was for you to not be able to freely perpetuate the systematic abuses because someone pushes back on it. Don't forget to mention how it's destroying the country, society and traditional values but dammit how dare they censor muh freeze peach!

[thebuzzardman]

I live in the southwest so maybe that's why I have a higher awareness of the treatment of the indigenous peoples but I don't think it should be too much of a stretch to think anyone who lives here in the Americas and is non-indigenous would be aware of the history.

What's even more disgusting is the discrimination and ill treatment isn't even a thing of the past, it still is going on. So continuing to use a phrase that suggests they don't stay in their place is somehow akin to being 'crazy', or negative can be seen as offensive.

Thanks, PC police

This is why people think centrist liberals are implicitly contributing just like right wing explicit bigotry to the problem and not really interested in addressing the systematic injustices and discrimination that permeates society because it's too much of an inconvenience to them to actually give a fuch about people's oppression and suffering.

When it comes to something as simple of being aware of how language can create a hostile environment for marginalized people and just choosing different words to communicate certain things some people rather attack those who bring awareness to it as the ones who are the problem and criticize them for doing so.

I look forward to your 'why I left the left' coming out video telling everyone how horrible it was for you to not be able to freely perpetuate the systematic abuses because someone pushes back on it. Don't forget to mention how it's destroying the country, society and traditional values but dammit how dare they censor muh freeze peach!

Whatever, mr lastwordman. You don't know jack about me or my politics and your sorry attempt at guessing to press your point is a fail.

[Pointgod]

I started following a lot of maga people on social media to hopefully see them meltdown on election night.

They think there is no way he can lose. There in their own echo chamber and can’t fathom that everyone doesn’t think the same way.

A lot of these people worship him and their identity is maga.

If he loses there gonna lose their **** and it’s will be glorious

It’s not even just MAGA twitter, it’s “respectable” right wing people who are parroting this bull. It’s hilarious how out of touch they are and the mental gymnastics they’ll use to justify their cult leader. So many of them are like don’t believe the polls, yet they immediately believe the polls put out by right wing hacks like trafalgar and Rasmussen. They have no sense of reality or irony even. Although I suspect a lot of those “people” on twitter are bots and fake accounts.

[HarthorneWingo]

More have voted early in Texas in 2020 than the entire Texas vote in 2016.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/30/us/trump-biden-election

[stuporman]

Thanks, PC police

This is why people think centrist liberals are implicitly contributing just like right wing explicit bigotry to the problem and not really interested in addressing the systematic injustices and discrimination that permeates society because it's too much of an inconvenience to them to actually give a fuch about people's oppression and suffering.

When it comes to something as simple of being aware of how language can create a hostile environment for marginalized people and just choosing different words to communicate certain things some people rather attack those who bring awareness to it as the ones who are the problem and criticize them for doing so.

I look forward to your 'why I left the left' coming out video telling everyone how horrible it was for you to not be able to freely perpetuate the systematic abuses because someone pushes back on it. Don't forget to mention how it's destroying the country, society and traditional values but dammit how dare they censor muh freeze peach!

Whatever, mr lastwordman. You don't know jack about me or my politics and your sorry attempt at guessing to press your point is a fail.

I didn't attack you personally or call you names in how I brought up the phrase you used. I didn't try to condemn you because of it either, I just pointed out how it could be viewed that way by some.

You're reaction to it inspired my reaction to that but I'll try to examine my own conditioning and bias to make sure I don't project onto others things that aren't there. My apologies.

[Pointgod]

More have voted early in Texas in 2020 than the entire Texas vote in 2016.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/30/us/trump-biden-election

This can’t be good for Republicans.

[omerome]

More have voted early in Texas in 2020 than the entire Texas vote in 2016.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/30/us/trump-biden-election

This can’t be good for Republicans.

Which is why the Texas GOP has done everything possible to suppress the vote. Especially the BS with having just one drop box in Harris County - which by the way is one of the largest counties in the nation. Larger than almost an island on Hawaii. They know that their state is essentially blue with a red covering. They can only win when they cheat.

[Pointgod]

More have voted early in Texas in 2020 than the entire Texas vote in 2016.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/30/us/trump-biden-election

This can’t be good for Republicans.

Which is why the Texas GOP has done everything possible to suppress the vote. Especially the BS with having just one drop box in Harris County. They know that their state is essentially blue with a red covering. They can only win when they cheat.

I also think that closing those drop boxes completely backfired on the GOP, all it did was piss people off even more and motivated them to vote early. Like I said the GOP is full of morons constantly stepping on rakes that hit them in the face.

[BKlutch]

More have voted early in Texas in 2020 than the entire Texas vote in 2016.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/30/us/trump-biden-election

This can’t be good for Republicans.

Moar voting is never good for them.

[omerome]

This can’t be good for Republicans.

Which is why the Texas GOP has done everything possible to suppress the vote. Especially the BS with having just one drop box in Harris County. They know that their state is essentially blue with a red covering. They can only win when they cheat.

I also think that closing those drop boxes completely backfired on the GOP, all it did was piss people off even more and motivated them to vote early. Like I said the GOP is full of morons constantly stepping on rakes that hit them in the face.

Yeah. I hope that everyone around the country finally sees exactly what they were up against which has disenfranchised them from voting. It wasn't because Democrats weren't doing enough to solve their problems, it was because Republicans were doing everything they can to make sure you continue to have them and keep you in perpetual fear.

That doesn't sound like something anyone should vote for. It's idiocy.

[thebuzzardman]

This is why people think centrist liberals are implicitly contributing just like right wing explicit bigotry to the problem and not really interested in addressing the systematic injustices and discrimination that permeates society because it's too much of an inconvenience to them to actually give a fuch about people's oppression and suffering.

When it comes to something as simple of being aware of how language can create a hostile environment for marginalized people and just choosing different words to communicate certain things some people rather attack those who bring awareness to it as the ones who are the problem and criticize them for doing so.

I look forward to your 'why I left the left' coming out video telling everyone how horrible it was for you to not be able to freely perpetuate the systematic abuses because someone pushes back on it. Don't forget to mention how it's destroying the country, society and traditional values but dammit how dare they censor muh freeze peach!

Whatever, mr lastwordman. You don't know jack about me or my politics and your sorry attempt at guessing to press your point is a fail.

I didn't attack you personally or call you names in how I brought up the phrase you used. I didn't try to condemn you because of it either, I just pointed out how it could be viewed that way by some.

You're reaction to it inspired my reaction to that but I'll try to examine my own conditioning and bias to make sure I don't project onto others things that aren't there. My apologies.

Apologies accepted. MAGA!

J/K. F*ck that MAGA BS!

[Polk377]

More have voted early in Texas in 2020 than the entire Texas vote in 2016.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/30/us/trump-biden-election

This can’t be good for Republicans.

Which is why the Texas GOP has done everything possible to suppress the vote. Especially the BS with having just one drop box in Harris County - which by the way is one of the largest counties in the nation. Larger than almost an island on Hawaii. They know that their state is essentially blue with a red covering. They can only win when they cheat.

That would be true if you counted all the illegals but guess what? They can't vote! Texas will continue to be a Red state just like it has been 11 out of the last 12 elections.

[omerome]

This can’t be good for Republicans.

Which is why the Texas GOP has done everything possible to suppress the vote. Especially the BS with having just one drop box in Harris County - which by the way is one of the largest counties in the nation. Larger than almost an island on Hawaii. They know that their state is essentially blue with a red covering. They can only win when they cheat.

That would be true if you counted all the illegals but guess what? They can't vote! Texas will continue to be a Red state just like it has been 11 out of the last 12 elections.

Maybe in the past, but just look at the trends recently. Texas has been changing colors - slowly, but they have been changing. What was once a place where Democrats stood almost no chance, almost elected Beto as their senator in 2018. Texas for a while has been red, but their voter turnout hasn't been high - which is exactly what the GOP has always wanted. We're seeing the evidence of people showing up and showing out and hopefully, the numbers will continue to trend where the GOP will lose another stronghold and eventually cease to exist.

I will welcome a party that can share different viewpoints without resorting to racism, cheating, bigotry, stealing, lying, and just being overall awful people. The Republican party in its current form is not it.

[BKlutch]

I think that everybody here is feeling stress from all the concerns about voting and how the post-vote process will be handled. The stakes here are huge, not only for blue states, but for the United States, and its (former?) allies and pretty much all other countries in the world.*

That's a lot of pressure. So I think each of us needs to take a deep breath and give each other a pass for things they post that reflect how we're all feeling.

*And don't forget COVID stress!

[E-Balla]

Which is why the Texas GOP has done everything possible to suppress the vote. Especially the BS with having just one drop box in Harris County. They know that their state is essentially blue with a red covering. They can only win when they cheat.

I also think that closing those drop boxes completely backfired on the GOP, all it did was piss people off even more and motivated them to vote early. Like I said the GOP is full of morons constantly stepping on rakes that hit them in the face.

Yeah. I hope that everyone around the country finally sees exactly what they were up against which has disenfranchised them from voting. It wasn't because Democrats weren't doing enough to solve their problems, it was because Republicans were doing everything they can to make sure you continue to have them and keep you in perpetual fear.

That doesn't sound like something anyone should vote for. It's idiocy.

Wait a minute now this ain't even close to accurate. Democrats have clearly not done all they can since forever in an attempt to court Republican voters. It never works but they always do it. Hell they're doing it now.

[Pointgod]

This can’t be good for Republicans.

Which is why the Texas GOP has done everything possible to suppress the vote. Especially the BS with having just one drop box in Harris County - which by the way is one of the largest counties in the nation. Larger than almost an island on Hawaii. They know that their state is essentially blue with a red covering. They can only win when they cheat.

That would be true if you counted all the illegals but guess what? They can't vote! Texas will continue to be a Red state just like it has been 11 out of the last 12 elections.

The numbers definitely aren’t trending in the right direction for Republicans.

President Trump won the state by 807,179 votes in 2016. Democratic Senate candidate Beto O'Rourke lost his statewide race by 214,921 votes.

As of Monday, Texas' secretary of state lists more than 16.9 million registered voters in its database, a state record and a net gain of 1.8 million since 2016.

[Polk377]

Which is why the Texas GOP has done everything possible to suppress the vote. Especially the BS with having just one drop box in Harris County - which by the way is one of the largest counties in the nation. Larger than almost an island on Hawaii. They know that their state is essentially blue with a red covering. They can only win when they cheat.

That would be true if you counted all the illegals but guess what? They can't vote! Texas will continue to be a Red state just like it has been 11 out of the last 12 elections.

I will welcome a party that can share different viewpoints without resorting to racism, cheating, bigotry, stealing, lying, and just being overall awful people. The Republican party in its current form is not it.

You know you just described the Democratic Party right? The party of "you ain't black unless you vote for me" and "poor kids are just as bright as white kids", party of authoritarianism, party of violent looters burning down cities, suppressing free speech, suppressing facts to push a bias. You are not standing with people of moral character. You are standing with the godless, lawless, science denying, hysteria driven, authoritarian, globalist elite war machine.

[Pointgod]

Which is why the Texas GOP has done everything possible to suppress the vote. Especially the BS with having just one drop box in Harris County. They know that their state is essentially blue with a red covering. They can only win when they cheat.

I also think that closing those drop boxes completely backfired on the GOP, all it did was piss people off even more and motivated them to vote early. Like I said the GOP is full of morons constantly stepping on rakes that hit them in the face.

Yeah. I hope that everyone around the country finally sees exactly what they were up against which has disenfranchised them from voting. It wasn't because Democrats weren't doing enough to solve their problems, it was because Republicans were doing everything they can to make sure you continue to have them and keep you in perpetual fear.

That doesn't sound like something anyone should vote for. It's idiocy.

Abso **** lutely. It bugs the hell out of me when Democrats complain that their vote doesn’t matter when they have one party who’s trying like hell to keep them from voting. Why would that be if your vote doesn’t matter? I’ve always said, the US doesn’t have a partisanship problem, it has a Republican Party problem. It would be a mistake for voters to ever let their foot off the gas until the Republican Party has been completely been wiped out. Vote in every single election and in the future it should be safe, accessible and fast.