2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still

[Polk377]

The RNC got rid of the "Never Trumpers" and filled themselves with even worse people like those QAnon folks. They still have the fast-talking liars like "Gym" Jordan and Tom Cotton and the worst of them all - Mitch McConnell. Then you have anyone else who will blindly follow the resident.

The RNC's entire platform was literally, whatever the resident wants. So you claim that the Democrats don't have moral character, and yet see the RNC as one that does? Did you forget who is in the White House? That guy? The same guy who if wasn't the president would immediately be indicted for several charges. And he only did not get removed from office because the Senate Majority is filled with power-hungry cowards. And people like Susan Collins that somehow things that he learned his lesson...

Mitch McConnell is refusing to pass a stimulus bill that would help people from losing their homes, keep from sliding into poverty and help businesses stay solvent. WTF is Polk talking about? There’s zero basic morality or care for the American people who are hurting.

Exactly.

Mitch McConnell confirmed Amy Coney Barret to the SCOTUS in a month and once they got what they wanted, he dismissed the Senate until after the election. Why is this okay? Why is the seat on the SCOTUS more important than saving lives from this pandemic? We've been dealing with COVID for over SEVEN months. The House passed a bill way back in May, and still, this man has been hands-off on negotiations because he doesn't want to give the Democrats a "win". That's how petty that evil man is. This isn't about wins. This is about people's lives. Lives that are lost in the thousands each day. And now he's campaigning and telling people that he deserves six more years. WTF?!

We have set new case records for this virus THIS week. How is that even right?! It's simple: supporting the GOP is literally killing people.

Republicans would love to pass a stimulus package and have been trying to for months now. Blame Nancy and her friends that care more about pushing for illegals to get a huge sum of your money instead of helping you and other citizens that need it. They will wait it out until after the election to see if Republicans can win the House so they can finally put Nancy in the old folks home where she belongs.

[Pointgod]

Yes The Republican Party under Trump really drained the swamp right into Mara Lago pool. Any response to this Polk?

Read on Twitter

Here is my response: https://crewexposed.com/

Here’s another source that corroborates this reporting. I’m not going to take a right wing news site seriously but I’ll send you a list of sources that report the same thing. Now are you going to answer what you think about this or continue to deflect?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/520549-tax-records-show-200-companies-groups-and-foreign-governments

[Butch718]

No satire provided. The RNC finally got rid of the Bush Dynasty and all of his cronies along with all of the Never Trumpers who were stifling the party. I was a Democrat for a long time, voted against Bush and 2 time Obama voter. What I was completely against is what the Democratic Party has become.

Then this is heavy projection because you’ve literally described the Republican Party and especially Trump.

Not at all. Trump believes in right to practice your religion, law and order, State's rights vs federal mandated authoritarianism, not pushing an agenda that isn't backed by science that children should be allowed to choose their sex at a preteen age (this is disgusting child cruelty) and when everyone said don't give him the codes he will push us to a nuclear winter he has averted disaster with North Korea, kept Russia in line, pushed back hard against China and getting peace negotiated in the Middle East. Stop looking at the Orange Man and actually look at all the policy.

Man, you guys really live in a fantasy bubble. And please spare us that you used to be an Obama voter. You guys are so full of sh*t. especially when you post garbage like this.

Also, Trump believes in religion, law and order and states rights? Man, are you f*cking serious? The fact that you Trump supporters can say this **** with a straight face, just shows how batsh*t crazy you all are.

[Clyde_Style]

I honestly think that conservatives are tanking this election to set themselves up for a better future. I dont imagine they want trump to be the face anymore and they've put alot of **** in place thats gonna make it really hard for the dems in the future. I think they'll be only too happy to blame biden for trumps economy 4 years from now. Unfortunately we have to concentrate on the now until such time as trump leaves the white house. Hopefully the dems work on immediately removing those minefields upon biden assuming office (provided that he wins).

I've actually considered this idea but have come to think it's not true. There are several large reasons why.

First, while some think that Biden is old and will be a caretaker, that discounts one of his best political attributes. He is a team player and he is the captain of the team. Remember when we were young and a bunch of us would play baseball? Usually the two best players would be on opposite sides, then each would select one of us in turn until the tems were all chosen. Definitely, Biden is chosing a great team. This team may accomplish a lot more than we have generally thought, and that could change the complexion of Washington (both in terms of ideology and literally color).

Second, Biden has a long term view of politics. He will make moves to strengthen the Democrats' hold on government long into the future, by supporting local redistricting to reduce gerymanders, supporting strong young candidates, and helping to remove the conservative political bias from textbooks, etc.

Third, many of the conservatives have been Trump sycophants and reporters I'm hoping a lot of us remember who they are and continue to hold a grudge.

There will likely be new safeguards agains the worst of Trump's abuses of government process.

The progressive wing of the Democtratic party is very likely to become idologically more a part of government policies and this could tend to strengthen not just the party but the country. If a Biden administration is successful, it is unlikely that people will turn towards the conservatives (and their failed government over the past four years) to undo the economic prosperity and other dividends of a good presidency.

Also, don't discount how true, principled conservatives have become marginalized in the Republican party compared to the far right wackos who make up so much of Trump's base. I'm not sure that the Republican party will survive as one party, or whether it will become two smaller parties going forward.

A lot can happen in 4 years, and I don't believe principled conservatives want to lose and take the risk they'll be marginalized out of politics.

Biden's administration can tangibly impact citizen's lives and show they are better off than with the GOP which completely turned its back on Americans. The partisan divide can weaken further by actually doing what he says he'll do, especially the capital investments in infrastructural change that can create new jobs. I think the economic recovery from covid will be different in that Trump's inaction wiped out lots of small businesses and many people will be living hand to mouth and starting over. Biden and his team can help many of those people survive and recover. They'll vote for you if they know why and how you helped them and this time I think the cause and effect between policies and their benefits will be more transparent than ever.

Trump is such an epic disaster, even a moderately competent administration will look good by comparison, but that's not enough. They really have to connect with and convince lifelong Republicans that they will do better with Democrats. It is obvious to us why that would be true, but it is up to them to make that case through both articulated reasons and deeds.

[Polk377]

Yes The Republican Party under Trump really drained the swamp right into Mara Lago pool. Any response to this Polk?

Read on Twitter

Here is my response: https://crewexposed.com/

Here’s another source that corroborates this reporting. I’m not going to take a right wing news site seriously but I’ll send you a list of sources that report the same thing. Now are you going to answer what you think about this or continue to deflect?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/520549-tax-records-show-200-companies-groups-and-foreign-governments

So you don't support any Republican based sources but I am supposed to believe yours because?

[Pointgod]

Then this is heavy projection because you’ve literally described the Republican Party and especially Trump.

Not at all. Trump believes in right to practice your religion, law and order, State's rights vs federal mandated authoritarianism, not pushing an agenda that isn't backed by science that children should be allowed to choose their sex at a preteen age (this is disgusting child cruelty) and when everyone said don't give him the codes he will push us to a nuclear winter he has averted disaster with North Korea, kept Russia in line, pushed back hard against China and getting peace negotiated in the Middle East. Stop looking at the Orange Man and actually look at all the policy.

Man, you guys really live in a fantasy bubble. And please spare us that you used to be an Obama voter. You guys are so full of sh*t. especially when you post garbage like this.

Also, Trump believes in religion, law and order and states rights? Man, are you f*cking serious? The fact that you Trump supporters can say this **** with a straight face, just shows how batsh*t crazy you all are.

I was going to put this more delicately lol but yeah this is the perfect example of how detached from reality the Republican echo chamber is.

[Polk377]

Then this is heavy projection because you’ve literally described the Republican Party and especially Trump.

Not at all. Trump believes in right to practice your religion, law and order, State's rights vs federal mandated authoritarianism, not pushing an agenda that isn't backed by science that children should be allowed to choose their sex at a preteen age (this is disgusting child cruelty) and when everyone said don't give him the codes he will push us to a nuclear winter he has averted disaster with North Korea, kept Russia in line, pushed back hard against China and getting peace negotiated in the Middle East. Stop looking at the Orange Man and actually look at all the policy.

Man, you guys really live in a fantasy bubble. And please spare us that you used to be an Obama voter. You guys are so full of sh*t. especially when you post garbage like this.

Also, Trump believes in religion, law and order and states rights? Man, are you f*cking serious? The fact that you Trump supporters can say this **** with a straight face, just shows how batsh*t crazy you all are.

Another case of Orange Man is no good so I am going to blindly say he is completely the opposite. Feeling nice and comfy in your own bubble there buddy?

[Pointgod]

Here is my response: https://crewexposed.com/

Here’s another source that corroborates this reporting. I’m not going to take a right wing news site seriously but I’ll send you a list of sources that report the same thing. Now are you going to answer what you think about this or continue to deflect?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/520549-tax-records-show-200-companies-groups-and-foreign-governments

So you don't support any Republican based sources but I am supposed to believe yours because?

Actually the source you posted doesn’t discredit the reporting I posted, it tried to discredit the organization. So you’re not actually refuting anything that I posted. I provided another source for you and again you’re still not addressing anything in the reporting. So either address Trump’s corruption or kindly STFU forever.

[omerome]

Mitch McConnell is refusing to pass a stimulus bill that would help people from losing their homes, keep from sliding into poverty and help businesses stay solvent. WTF is Polk talking about? There’s zero basic morality or care for the American people who are hurting.

Exactly.

Mitch McConnell confirmed Amy Coney Barret to the SCOTUS in a month and once they got what they wanted, he dismissed the Senate until after the election. Why is this okay? Why is the seat on the SCOTUS more important than saving lives from this pandemic? We've been dealing with COVID for over SEVEN months. The House passed a bill way back in May, and still, this man has been hands-off on negotiations because he doesn't want to give the Democrats a "win". That's how petty that evil man is. This isn't about wins. This is about people's lives. Lives that are lost in the thousands each day. And now he's campaigning and telling people that he deserves six more years. WTF?!

We have set new case records for this virus THIS week. How is that even right?! It's simple: supporting the GOP is literally killing people.

Republicans would love to pass a stimulus package and have been trying to for months now. Blame Nancy and her friends that care more about pushing for illegals to get a huge sum of your money instead of helping you and other citizens that need it. They will wait it out until after the election to see if Republicans can win the House so they can finally put Nancy in the old folks home where she belongs.

Huh? They can't even agree with the resident in the White House on a stimulus package.

The coronavirus stimulus talks between Nancy Pelosi and Steven Mnuchin have been excruciating. But they’ll fuel an even more painful firefight within the GOP if the speaker and Treasury secretary can somehow get a deal.

The bulk of the Senate GOP is resistant to the spending numbers being tossed around by Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Mnuchin, meaning a majority of Republicans in the GOP-controlled Senate would likely vote against a deal in the ballpark of $2 trillion. And that’s if the legislation even comes up at all.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has said only the Senate would “consider” any such agreement, with no promise of a floor vote or whether it would have his support. He offered no more specificity to reporters on Monday.

It is quite unusual for the Trump administration to negotiate legislation that turns off most members of Congress in President Donald Trump’s own party. If all Senate Democrats supported the legislation, it would still need more than a dozen Republicans to clear the 60-vote threshold needed to overcome a filibuster.

And GOP leaders are looking dimly at the prospect of waltzing a bill with mostly Democratic support through the Senate, even if it does have the president’s backing.

Republicans’ “natural instinct, depending on how big it is, and what’s in it, is probably going to be to be against it,” said Senate Majority Whip John Thune (R-S.D.). “I think we’re going to have a hard time finding 13 votes for anything.”

Senate Republicans have been on the attack now for weeks, hoping to send a signal to the Trump administration that they far prefer touting the impending Supreme Court confirmation of Amy Coney Barrett over a debilitating intra-party fight over a relief bill right before the election. McConnell has privately expressed concern about a coronavirus deal delaying Barrett’s confirmation, according to someone who has spoken to him.

Some GOP senators have also warned it would damper enthusiasm for Republicans at the ballot box, while Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) simply said Monday that $1.8 trillion or more is “way too high.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/senate-republicans-trump-covid-stimulus-430239

They also mentioned that the confirmation to Amy Coney Barrett was clearly more important because they felt that would galvanize more votes compared to voting for a relief bill.

So, sorry, even their own Majority Whip, John Thune, said that they are going to hard a hard time finding 13 votes for anything. So how are they ready for a bill when they can't even agree to one - right now?

[E-Balla]

I think that really had more to do with the Democrat's continually believing in bipartisanship. It was probably my biggest criticism of Obama, even if he meant well. They wanted to still "reach across the aisle" and pass something both parties can agree to. We still see it today.

I hope now, after the damage that has been done, the Democrats finally stop being so "nice" and just get stuff done. The GOP made it clear that they don't care - at all. They lost any sense of credibility like Schumer said when the GOP confirmed Amy Coney Barrett to the SCOTUS.

So my question to you is do you really think they believe in bipartisanship? I personally don't believe a group of the most powerful people in the country would be that stupid to not notice something I noticed at the age of 14 when I first started paying attention to politics. I don't think I'm that smart.

They're not going to stop being so "nice" because what you call being "nice" is actually their earnest beliefs. They truly believe giving Republicans a say in things is the right way to govern and they truly don't care about winning because winning doesn't personally improve their lives at all.

[Butch718]

Not at all. Trump believes in right to practice your religion, law and order, State's rights vs federal mandated authoritarianism, not pushing an agenda that isn't backed by science that children should be allowed to choose their sex at a preteen age (this is disgusting child cruelty) and when everyone said don't give him the codes he will push us to a nuclear winter he has averted disaster with North Korea, kept Russia in line, pushed back hard against China and getting peace negotiated in the Middle East. Stop looking at the Orange Man and actually look at all the policy.

Man, you guys really live in a fantasy bubble. And please spare us that you used to be an Obama voter. You guys are so full of sh*t. especially when you post garbage like this.

Also, Trump believes in religion, law and order and states rights? Man, are you f*cking serious? The fact that you Trump supporters can say this **** with a straight face, just shows how batsh*t crazy you all are.

Another case of Orange Man is no good so I am going to blindly say he is completely the opposite. Feeling nice and comfy in your own bubble there buddy?

all you guys is do is project.

Also, that's rich. Since you're the type of supporter he described when he said, "I could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."

[Clyde_Style]

I honestly think that conservatives are tanking this election to set themselves up for a better future. I dont imagine they want trump to be the face anymore and they've put alot of **** in place thats gonna make it really hard for the dems in the future. I think they'll be only too happy to blame biden for trumps economy 4 years from now. Unfortunately we have to concentrate on the now until such time as trump leaves the white house. Hopefully the dems work on immediately removing those minefields upon biden assuming office (provided that he wins).

People give Republicans too much credit. There is no master plan these guys are a dysfunctional group of idiots. Can anyone actually point to any legislation they passed the 2 years they had full control of Congress? The tax giveaway to corporations that led to record deficits, that’s it. It’s not surprising that the Party that runs on dismantling the government is a complete cluster ****.

The Republican Party is only viable because people don’t vote and there’s a rural bias in the Senate. Why else are Republicans trying to hard to keep people from voting? Naw they tied themselves to Trump and he’s taking down the party with them. The question is will the Democratic voters continue to show up and vote in every election from now for the next 2 decades or will they think that because Trump is gone their job is done? Look at California as an example of a former Republican state where the party was fully destroyed and will never recover

The ruling clique led by the sith lord Moscow Mitch are about to die off. Many of these old dudes like Grassley are not that bright themselves which is why they needed an evil mastermind like MM to herd them through the power maneuvers they've become known for.

But after that old guard passes way you're left with generations of Tea Party dipchits who by and large are of the quality of Matt Gaetz. Even the ones who are party loyalists without being full-on MAGA like Rubio are stupid as hell.

The GOP is looking to guys like Tom Cotton to lead them. He's their new Mitch. That's how the GOP rolls: a motley crue of idiots following a few masterminds. There is no ideology any longer unless white nationalism is going to remain their calling card.

[Polk377]

Not at all. Trump believes in right to practice your religion, law and order, State's rights vs federal mandated authoritarianism, not pushing an agenda that isn't backed by science that children should be allowed to choose their sex at a preteen age (this is disgusting child cruelty) and when everyone said don't give him the codes he will push us to a nuclear winter he has averted disaster with North Korea, kept Russia in line, pushed back hard against China and getting peace negotiated in the Middle East. Stop looking at the Orange Man and actually look at all the policy.

Man, you guys really live in a fantasy bubble. And please spare us that you used to be an Obama voter. You guys are so full of sh*t. especially when you post garbage like this.

Also, Trump believes in religion, law and order and states rights? Man, are you f*cking serious? The fact that you Trump supporters can say this **** with a straight face, just shows how batsh*t crazy you all are.

I was going to put this more delicately lol but yeah this is the perfect example of how detached from reality the Republican echo chamber is.

You guys don't live on this planet anymore. You don't look around you and actually talk to anyone real anymore. You live in an online bubble that has changed your perception of reality. We are not all dying in the streets, we are not being oppressed, we didn't all become racists. You all lost your damn minds.

[Butch718]

Man, you guys really live in a fantasy bubble. And please spare us that you used to be an Obama voter. You guys are so full of sh*t. especially when you post garbage like this.

Also, Trump believes in religion, law and order and states rights? Man, are you f*cking serious? The fact that you Trump supporters can say this **** with a straight face, just shows how batsh*t crazy you all are.

I was going to put this more delicately lol but yeah this is the perfect example of how detached from reality the Republican echo chamber is.

You guys don't live on this planet anymore. You don't look around you and actually talk to anyone real anymore. You live in an online bubble that has changed your perception of reality. We are not all dying in the streets, we are not being oppressed, we didn't all become racists. You all lost your damn minds.

I'm literally laughing at you right now. Man, you guys are something else. Just more projecting from the clown show.

[E-Balla]

No E-Balla is wrong. The Democratic Party 10 years ago was a lot more Conservative than they are now. The country right now is still more Conservative than left wing twitter will have you believe. There’s no way that Medicare for all would have passed 10 years ago and it wouldn’t pass now. The only reason there wasn’t a public option is because of one **** Senator, Joe Lieberman.

Joe Lieberman, a Democrat... And I'm not just talking about the politicians but also the voters so I'm not wrong and you're just making my point for me here. Democrats are getting exactly what they want when they're in power. They're a conservative party, I'm not one of these brogressives here that thinks Democrats would keep their voters if they took up far left policies or that thinks America is anything more than a country with a moderate right and far right party. At the end of the day Americans value white supremacy more than their own lives for the most part so we can't have nice things like socialized medicine because that means EVERYONE has access. Back when only white people were allowed into the welfare state we had a very robust middle class, unions, and great government programs to help build wealth.

[Clyde_Style]

I started following a lot of maga people on social media to hopefully see them meltdown on election night.

They think there is no way he can lose. There in their own echo chamber and can’t fathom that everyone doesn’t think the same way.

A lot of these people worship him and their identity is maga.

If he loses there gonna lose their **** and it’s will be glorious

I will refrain from gloating to people in person just because it could be dangerous, but I'm fine with watching them melt down online. They've been posting Hindenburg photos and gloating about Trump winning by a landslide for so long that I have lost all empathy for them and the pain they will feel when their pathetic fantasy world collapses around them.

[Polk377]

Man, you guys really live in a fantasy bubble. And please spare us that you used to be an Obama voter. You guys are so full of sh*t. especially when you post garbage like this.

Also, Trump believes in religion, law and order and states rights? Man, are you f*cking serious? The fact that you Trump supporters can say this **** with a straight face, just shows how batsh*t crazy you all are.

Another case of Orange Man is no good so I am going to blindly say he is completely the opposite. Feeling nice and comfy in your own bubble there buddy?

all you guys is do is project.

Also, that's rich. Since you're the type of supporter he described when he said, "I could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."

I have to project to get my voice over all this nonsense in here. I knew this Knicks fanbase was a bunch of doom and gloomers every year and now I know why

[Oscirus]

Ok all the horror stories I was hearing about for long lines at the voting booth, I was in and out in 10 minutes and that was with me **** up a ballot and requesting a new one. Other than president, that was a boring ass ballot for me unforch

[Clyde_Style]

More have voted early in Texas in 2020 than the entire Texas vote in 2016.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/30/us/trump-biden-election

This is amazing!

[Polk377]

I was going to put this more delicately lol but yeah this is the perfect example of how detached from reality the Republican echo chamber is.

You guys don't live on this planet anymore. You don't look around you and actually talk to anyone real anymore. You live in an online bubble that has changed your perception of reality. We are not all dying in the streets, we are not being oppressed, we didn't all become racists. You all lost your damn minds.

I'm literally laughing at you right now. Man, you guys are something else. Just more projecting from the clown show.

I wonder what the laugh of a madman sounds like....