2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

[JHTruth]

I don't think this has been posted here. It is the best, most comprehensive look at the Celtics regarding their financial status (cap and luxury tax), and how it impacts the draft and the situation with Gordon Hayward. Based on this, it doesn't look likely that we will be using all the draft picks to add more players to the team. More likely that some or all of the picks will be traded. Anyway, the article offers some interesting scenarios.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/celtics-offseason-preview-one-gordon-hayward-trade-destination-stands-out-but-his-fate-is-still-in-question/

Danny's hubris won't allow him to move on from any of the disastrous picks from last season. So if it comes down to him choosing a far superior prospect in this draft resulting in him needing to drop/trade the player(s) chosen in last year's draft, and trading the pick, he's going to trade the pick. He wants the illusion of a war chest so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he traded one, two or all three of the first rounders for 2021 picks and just used the 2nd rounder to choose a player. On one hand, the 2021 class is incredible and more picks in it is a good thing. On the other, if he drafted well in this draft class we could fill all the holes we have with FA losses and last year's bad draft picks which would fix our horrible bench and prepare us for impending losses like Hayward and Theis.

There's history to back this up. He took the severely underwhelming Jordan Mickey and RJ Hampton in 2015 and still had James Young from the 2014 draft when we entered the 2016 draft loaded with 5 of the first 35 picks and 7 picks overall in a similarly deep draft as this one. He laughably claimed there was a roster crunch so he took Yabusele and Zizic as draft and stashes and traded the #30 and #35 picks. Hilariously, after the draft when asked why he didn't take a PG with the #3 pick he claimed he was set at PG. But he actually took Demetrius Jackson in the 2nd round and gave him a guaranteed contract so he was completely full of shite. Of course, none of the sycophants in the Celtics media would call him on it.

Within a year Mickey, Hampton and Young were all let go. Players Danny passed on because of some made up roster crunch? Caris LeVert, Malcolm Brogdon, Dejounte Murray, Pascal Siakam and Ivica Zubac. It's incredible how Danny can screw up this bad and still have defenders lining up to make excuses for him. I can't wait to hear them when he does something like this again in this draft. I have a feeling that if he does, and ownership has to watch guys Danny passed on one more time, succeed elsewhere, they'll be fed up enough to move on from him, especially because if he does, our bench will still be terrible and we'll have no shot at a title.

I suppose people will start to care about your opinion once any of the scrubs you hype to the sky actually pan out..

[Curmudgeon]

I'm surprised to see Saddiq Bey slip in a number of mock drafts. Is there a reason for this?

I don't have any insider info but have seen reports that teams are nervous that his shot won't translate because it's a low-arcing shot and a bit slow.

Also he is slow with a poor first step. Will be relegated to spot-up shooter in the NBA. In the lottery teams generally want guys with 3-level, at least 2-level scoring potential..

Meh. I've been watching film. His shot isn't pretty but it goes in. Doesn't look flat to me. And he's got a nice handle for a man his size. I don't see a problem with his first step. Plus, he can score at all three levels. He's even got a little George Gervin finger roll.

Defensively he's got a nice wingspan and he's been well coached (obviously) I'm not sure I want him at #14, but if he slips to #26 that's a no brainer.

I like Achiuwa at #14 if he slips. I also like Isaiah Stewart because he has an NBA body and he makes his free throws.

Having said all this, I'll be astounded if Ainge uses more than one of his first rounders.

[playa-hater]

Help me I finally watched a Robert Woodard video and now believe he's a more athletic Paul Pierce. If they hadn't moved this draft back a month it would've already happened, right? Can we go with that?

Hoping:
14 - S. Bey
26 - Oturo
30 - Woodard or Maledon or another Bey or Nnaji or whatever (Hinton's cool too)
47 - probs a Mormon

Expecting:
14 - Cole Anthony
26 - traded for a conditional second
30 - Tillman
47 - traded for nothing

first off, welcome to the Woodard fan club. but Paul Pierce?? don't think he creates offense like that. I would be happy with a better Bruce Bowen/ Jae Crowder type.

meanwhile your BOLD comments drepressed the shet out of me..

[playa-hater]

Oturu moves like Whiteside to me.


Have looked at so many videos over the last few days, I am getting dizzy.

Bey looked slow and so boring to me. Slow and steady wins the race, so they say.

Edwards: I like a guy who will hit from curry range then yam it in your mouth the next possession.

Maxey: looks like an ambidextrous goat. Can lock you on D. Looks like he has range and it looks good coming from him but I was surprised when I saw the numbers from 3. Looks are deceiving.

Bane: haven't seen his stats but his highlights of running around screens like a pro and downing the shots look good and what we need.

Kira: looks like Fox but everyone says that. He does hit you with a hesi then zooms past you. Only highlights but his balance is impeccable!

yeah, you and me both.. this draft can't get here son enough. my head can't take much more.

[themoneyteam2]

I don't think this has been posted here. It is the best, most comprehensive look at the Celtics regarding their financial status (cap and luxury tax), and how it impacts the draft and the situation with Gordon Hayward. Based on this, it doesn't look likely that we will be using all the draft picks to add more players to the team. More likely that some or all of the picks will be traded. Anyway, the article offers some interesting scenarios.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/celtics-offseason-preview-one-gordon-hayward-trade-destination-stands-out-but-his-fate-is-still-in-question/

Danny's hubris won't allow him to move on from any of the disastrous picks from last season. So if it comes down to him choosing a far superior prospect in this draft resulting in him needing to drop/trade the player(s) chosen in last year's draft, and trading the pick, he's going to trade the pick. He wants the illusion of a war chest so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he traded one, two or all three of the first rounders for 2021 picks and just used the 2nd rounder to choose a player. On one hand, the 2021 class is incredible and more picks in it is a good thing. On the other, if he drafted well in this draft class we could fill all the holes we have with FA losses and last year's bad draft picks which would fix our horrible bench and prepare us for impending losses like Hayward and Theis.

There's history to back this up. He took the severely underwhelming Jordan Mickey and RJ Hampton in 2015 and still had James Young from the 2014 draft when we entered the 2016 draft loaded with 5 of the first 35 picks and 7 picks overall in a similarly deep draft as this one. He laughably claimed there was a roster crunch so he took Yabusele and Zizic as draft and stashes and traded the #30 and #35 picks. Hilariously, after the draft when asked why he didn't take a PG with the #3 pick he claimed he was set at PG. But he actually took Demetrius Jackson in the 2nd round and gave him a guaranteed contract so he was completely full of shite. Of course, none of the sycophants in the Celtics media would call him on it.

Within a year Mickey, Hampton and Young were all let go. Players Danny passed on because of some made up roster crunch? Caris LeVert, Malcolm Brogdon, Dejounte Murray, Pascal Siakam and Ivica Zubac. It's incredible how Danny can screw up this bad and still have defenders lining up to make excuses for him. I can't wait to hear them when he does something like this again in this draft. I have a feeling that if he does, and ownership has to watch guys Danny passed on one more time, succeed elsewhere, they'll be fed up enough to move on from him, especially because if he does, our bench will still be terrible and we'll have no shot at a title.

I suppose people will start to care about your opinion once any of the scrubs you hype to the sky actually pan out..

Wait you don't agree that if Ainge picked picked Bol Bol, Isiah Roby, or Naz Reid they would have made the Finals???

[themoneyteam2]

I don't think this has been posted here. It is the best, most comprehensive look at the Celtics regarding their financial status (cap and luxury tax), and how it impacts the draft and the situation with Gordon Hayward. Based on this, it doesn't look likely that we will be using all the draft picks to add more players to the team. More likely that some or all of the picks will be traded. Anyway, the article offers some interesting scenarios.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/celtics-offseason-preview-one-gordon-hayward-trade-destination-stands-out-but-his-fate-is-still-in-question/

Danny's hubris won't allow him to move on from any of the disastrous picks from last season. So if it comes down to him choosing a far superior prospect in this draft resulting in him needing to drop/trade the player(s) chosen in last year's draft, and trading the pick, he's going to trade the pick. He wants the illusion of a war chest so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he traded one, two or all three of the first rounders for 2021 picks and just used the 2nd rounder to choose a player. On one hand, the 2021 class is incredible and more picks in it is a good thing. On the other, if he drafted well in this draft class we could fill all the holes we have with FA losses and last year's bad draft picks which would fix our horrible bench and prepare us for impending losses like Hayward and Theis.

There's history to back this up. He took the severely underwhelming Jordan Mickey and RJ Hampton in 2015 and still had James Young from the 2014 draft when we entered the 2016 draft loaded with 5 of the first 35 picks and 7 picks overall in a similarly deep draft as this one. He laughably claimed there was a roster crunch so he took Yabusele and Zizic as draft and stashes and traded the #30 and #35 picks. Hilariously, after the draft when asked why he didn't take a PG with the #3 pick he claimed he was set at PG. But he actually took Demetrius Jackson in the 2nd round and gave him a guaranteed contract so he was completely full of shite. Of course, none of the sycophants in the Celtics media would call him on it.

Within a year Mickey, Hampton and Young were all let go. Players Danny passed on because of some made up roster crunch? Caris LeVert, Malcolm Brogdon, Dejounte Murray, Pascal Siakam and Ivica Zubac. It's incredible how Danny can screw up this bad and still have defenders lining up to make excuses for him. I can't wait to hear them when he does something like this again in this draft. I have a feeling that if he does, and ownership has to watch guys Danny passed on one more time, succeed elsewhere, they'll be fed up enough to move on from him, especially because if he does, our bench will still be terrible and we'll have no shot at a title.

So you're killing him for not hitting on late first round and 2nd round picks. Yeah what a terrible selection to take Grant Williams over Bol Bol, the same Bol who only appeared in 4 playoff games, all of which were blowouts lmaooooo. But don't want to mention how he hit on Brown, Tatum, and Smart at the top of the draft? Imagine if he picked Josh Jackson or Fultz instead of Tatum. I can't even imagine what you'd be saying lol.

You'd think the Celtics are a bottom 5 team and not a top 5 team in the league by the way you clown Ainge and management for their decisions. But then again you said the Knicks have a better future than the Celtics and that Lonzo Ball, Bridges, and RJ Barrett are better than Jaylen Brown.

[Homerclease]

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My guy at pick 30 if we don’t consolidate

[themoneyteam2]

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Not a huge fan of his game but seems like a good prospect at 30

[themoneyteam2]

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Would LOVE him at 30. Gilbert Arenas has a great podcast where he mentioned that he routinely killed NBA guys like KCP in summer league pickup at UCLA. Called him a pro.

[leper-con]

Does anyone like the Quickly kid from Kentucky ?
Seems like he can really shot the ball

[captain green]

Sweet lord we have specs coming in this should start separating the closeness.

[Kalela]

Udoka Azubuike looks like he will be a decent player in the NBA. Why is he projected to go in early 2nd round in most mock drafts?

[playa-hater]

Udoka Azubuike looks like he will be a decent player in the NBA. Why is he projected to go in early 2nd round in most mock drafts?

simple answer he is old school type of BIGMAN talent, Just look at what happened with Jahil Okofor,

I would rather give every one of his minutes to Tacko instead.

[Gomes3PC]

Saddiq Bey reminds me of Jared Dudley, in all the good ways. He's just gonna help teams win.

[playa-hater]

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Would LOVE him at 30. Gilbert Arenas has a great podcast where he mentioned that he routinely killed NBA guys like KCP in summer league pickup at UCLA. Called him a pro.

he may or may not be a good Pro one day, I don't know. But vertical leap is so overrated. just look at the top 2 jumpers and there NBA career. Diallo barely plays and I have never heard of Gregory,

[playa-hater]

Saddiq Bey reminds me of Jared Dudley, in all the good ways. He's just gonna help teams win.

LOL, sounds like a backhanded compliment, I think R Covington is a close floor/ceiling.

[BostonCouchGM]

I don't think this has been posted here. It is the best, most comprehensive look at the Celtics regarding their financial status (cap and luxury tax), and how it impacts the draft and the situation with Gordon Hayward. Based on this, it doesn't look likely that we will be using all the draft picks to add more players to the team. More likely that some or all of the picks will be traded. Anyway, the article offers some interesting scenarios.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/celtics-offseason-preview-one-gordon-hayward-trade-destination-stands-out-but-his-fate-is-still-in-question/

Danny's hubris won't allow him to move on from any of the disastrous picks from last season. So if it comes down to him choosing a far superior prospect in this draft resulting in him needing to drop/trade the player(s) chosen in last year's draft, and trading the pick, he's going to trade the pick. He wants the illusion of a war chest so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he traded one, two or all three of the first rounders for 2021 picks and just used the 2nd rounder to choose a player. On one hand, the 2021 class is incredible and more picks in it is a good thing. On the other, if he drafted well in this draft class we could fill all the holes we have with FA losses and last year's bad draft picks which would fix our horrible bench and prepare us for impending losses like Hayward and Theis.

There's history to back this up. He took the severely underwhelming Jordan Mickey and RJ Hampton in 2015 and still had James Young from the 2014 draft when we entered the 2016 draft loaded with 5 of the first 35 picks and 7 picks overall in a similarly deep draft as this one. He laughably claimed there was a roster crunch so he took Yabusele and Zizic as draft and stashes and traded the #30 and #35 picks. Hilariously, after the draft when asked why he didn't take a PG with the #3 pick he claimed he was set at PG. But he actually took Demetrius Jackson in the 2nd round and gave him a guaranteed contract so he was completely full of shite. Of course, none of the sycophants in the Celtics media would call him on it.

Within a year Mickey, Hampton and Young were all let go. Players Danny passed on because of some made up roster crunch? Caris LeVert, Malcolm Brogdon, Dejounte Murray, Pascal Siakam and Ivica Zubac. It's incredible how Danny can screw up this bad and still have defenders lining up to make excuses for him. I can't wait to hear them when he does something like this again in this draft. I have a feeling that if he does, and ownership has to watch guys Danny passed on one more time, succeed elsewhere, they'll be fed up enough to move on from him, especially because if he does, our bench will still be terrible and we'll have no shot at a title.

I suppose people will start to care about your opinion once any of the scrubs you hype to the sky actually pan out..

Says the guy responding to my posts a ha ha ha ha

[stormi]

Stanley is Jaylen Brown 2.0. He can thank Coach K for not showcasing him because there's nothing separating him from Jaylen except Jaylen got more touches on a bad team so his PPG were higher. They're literally the same player. The ONLY reason I didn't put him in the first round of my Big Board (that could change) is because players as gifted as him that have gone to Duke have historically been showcased and he wasn't. So why? Work ethic? Personality clash with Coach K? He's the draft's biggest mystery to me because of that. Physically and athletically he's right there with Edwards so why is he not being mocked in the 1st? I personally think Coach K has lost it. I don't think he knows how to coach in the era of one and done. He still gets the players but he doesn't maximize or showcase them. This goes back several years from what I've witnessed.

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[Spin Move]

Udoka Azubuike looks like he will be a decent player in the NBA. Why is he projected to go in early 2nd round in most mock drafts?

simple answer he is old school type of BIGMAN talent, Just look at what happened with Jahil Okofor,

I would rather give every one of his minutes to Tacko instead.

Doke is great at what he does but he only does a few things, he can score near the basket and he can defend the paint. If you want someone to switch onto a PG he can't do that, hit a jumper, Nope. However He dominates the 6 feet around the basket on both ends. If you are cool with just that he is a solid choice. He would be great to have against an Embiid or AD type but Bam will run around him.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Saddiq Bey reminds me of Jared Dudley, in all the good ways. He's just gonna help teams win.

LOL, sounds like a backhanded compliment, I think R Covington is a close floor/ceiling.

He’s a better man defender/worse team defender than RoCo, but its an interesting comp. I pegged him as a Crowder type, but RoCo works too.

His ceiling is elite role player and his floor is good role player— with the expedited offseason, he’s the guy I’m most confident that would play actual minutes if we drafted him [and, in turn, be the guy I’m most confident in hitting his ceiling here]. He can switch guard 1-3 and sometimes even upwards of 4’s and seems to be able to hit the three. We’re missing that right now on our roster.