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2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch - Revised Poll

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Who do you prefer of the following prospects?

Desmond Bane
12
41%
Saddiq Bey
1
3%
RJ Hampton
1
3%
Kira Lewis Jr
4
14%
Tyrese Maxey
2
7%
Aaron Nesmith
2
7%
Isaac Okoro
1
3%
Jalen Smith
2
7%
Tyrell Terry
2
7%
Patrick Williams
2
7%
 
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Post#2061 » by bwgood77 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:07 am

Blonde wrote:Give Rubio a PG to mentor for the next two years. It will be the most valuable thing Rubio can do for this team during his contract (not meant at all as a slight against Ricky). If all of Hayes, Lewis, and Haliburton are off the board I might rethink this. But I am still relatively high on other PG prospects in Cole Anthony, Terry, and Maxey who would be available.

Less keen on non-initiator types like Bane or Nesmith, and even less interested in most of the bigs in this class. I could be sold on Bane in the mid teens.


There is a good chance you know this, but I think of Bane as an able initiator. He did avg almost 4 ast per 36, 1 less than Lewis...I think he'd be a little more of a Brogdon type next to Booker (or Rubio) or a Beal type....a guy who can really shoot but also initiate the offense if need be...make plays for others..but also is very good defensively and does the little things.

I do think of Lewis as more of a score first PG, and while some feel that's the way PGs should be these days, I do really value a guy who looks for others a bit more.

Hayes has a really good shot to assist ratio...only a little over 1.5. Haliburton is about 1.75, Lewis is about 2.8....so definitely looks to score a lot more than the other guys,and is the smallest, so he definitely would play PG..on top of that he is the worst shooter of the bunch...his quickness probably allows him to get to the rim, but despite him being worse from 3, he is also worse from 2 (less than 50% career) compared to Haliburton (over 62%) and Bane (over 54%).

Now back the shot to assist ratio, Bane shoots over 3x as many shots as assists, but he is also a SG who will typically not be the primary initiator but more of a secondary one who still averaged 3.9 apg in college.
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Post#2062 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:14 am

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:I wouldn't love it but hey I can't totally hate a shooter.

Lewis really seems to be gaining steam to the point he might not even be there at 10.

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Yeah, Word around the NBA is that both the Pistons ( At 7) and New York ( At 8) are pretty high on him. For what it's worth, I think that the suns are currently just doing there due diligence on all of the drafts top shooters/ playmakers in there range, And should have their board finalized soon. I do think that it's going to actually come down to Nesmith/ Bane/ Terry honestly.


I'm still not excited about Lewis. I see him as a first rounder, not a lottery guy.

For a while now I've thought Nesmith is the most obvious choice, with Bane being one of the more likely surprise picks.

I'd be shocked if we drafted Tyrell Terry. Doesn't fit the mold for us at all. I wonder if our gestures towards point guards are a head fake.



I'd be shocked if we drafted Tyrell Terry. Doesn't fit the mold for us at all.
- I'm curious as to why you think that Terry doesn't fit the mold of what Jones is looking for?
1- Elite shooting ability. Check!
2- high IQ. Check!
3- play making ability. Underrated, But check!
4- versatility ( can play either guard position) and is solid defensively too. Check!
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Post#2065 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:51 am

Kerrsed wrote:This draft is going to be crazy with movement and isnt going to resemble the draft order that the lottery selected.

Hornets trade up to #1 to draft Wiseman.
Knicks trade up to #2 to draft Ball.
Wolves trade down to #3 to draft Edwards.
Bulls stay at #4 and draft Avdija.
Cav's stay at #5 and draft Toppin.
Hawks stay at #6 and draft Haliburton.
Wizards trade up to #7 to draft Okongwu.
Warriors trade down to #8 to draft Hayes.
Spurs trade up to #9 to draft Okoro.
Celtics trade up to #10 to draft Vassell.
Wizards trade down to #11 to draft Achiuwa.
Kings stay at #12 and draft Lewis Jr.
Pelicans stay at #13 and draft Bey.
Suns trade down to #14 to draft Smith.
Knicks trade up to #15 to draft Maxey.


Pretty cool list for sure! But who/ what else do we get in the Boston trade man? Any players coming back ( thoughts on this)? What additional pick do you see us having post trade? ( 26 or 30), Who do we take with the other pick? If we go with a big at 14, Then should I assume that we'll select a guard at 26 or 30? :nod:
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Post#2067 » by Kerrsed » Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:43 am

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Kerrsed wrote:
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This draft is going to be crazy with movement and isnt going to resemble the draft order that the lottery selected.

Hornets trade up to #1 to draft Wiseman.
Knicks trade up to #2 to draft Ball.
Wolves trade down to #3 to draft Edwards.
Bulls stay at #4 and draft Avdija.
Cav's stay at #5 and draft Toppin.
Hawks stay at #6 and draft Haliburton.
Wizards trade up to #7 to draft Okongwu.
Warriors trade down to #8 to draft Hayes.
Spurs trade up to #9 to draft Okoro.
Celtics trade up to #10 to draft Vassell.
Wizards trade down to #11 to draft Achiuwa.
Kings stay at #12 and draft Lewis Jr.
Pelicans stay at #13 and draft Bey.
Suns trade down to #14 to draft Smith.
Knicks trade up to #15 to draft Maxey.


Pretty cool list for sure! But who/ what else do we get in the Boston trade man? Any players coming back ( thoughts on this)? What additional pick do you see us having post trade? ( 26 or 30), Who do we take with the other pick? If we go with a big at 14, Then should I assume that we'll select a guard at 26 or 30? :nod:


No players involved, just pick for picks. #10 for #14 and #26. They keep #30 and also still have #47 as well. Now i went with Smith because i like Smith lol. I think if we do go for this pick trade, we grab a big with the 1st pick, as if you look at the list of guards that are being associated with us, they all are projected to be taken later on in the 1st. You have to believe that one of Bane/Terry/Anthony/Quickly/Flynn/Jones/Riller will be available. If we walk away from the draft with Smith and Bane or Riller, id be ecstatic. Now the James Jones approach may be different. He seems like the type that would look at that list of guards projected to go later in the 1st and say im just going to reach to make sure i get my guy, my choice of all those names as opposed to drafting the guard with the #26 and being stuck with just one of the names available (Instead of it being his choice selection). Same can be said with grabbing one of the many bigs projected to be a late 1st/2nd round pick. He would pretty much be reaching as they are for the most part being projected as 2nd round picks, so once again he would get his choice as opposed to his choice of the names left over.

So situation A: I would be looking to grab Smith and Bane. Jones situation B: Grabbing Bane 1st so you know you get him, and grabbing a big like Tillie with the 2nd pick.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch 

Post#2068 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:18 am

Kerrsed wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
Spoiler:
This draft is going to be crazy with movement and isnt going to resemble the draft order that the lottery selected.

Hornets trade up to #1 to draft Wiseman.
Knicks trade up to #2 to draft Ball.
Wolves trade down to #3 to draft Edwards.
Bulls stay at #4 and draft Avdija.
Cav's stay at #5 and draft Toppin.
Hawks stay at #6 and draft Haliburton.
Wizards trade up to #7 to draft Okongwu.
Warriors trade down to #8 to draft Hayes.
Spurs trade up to #9 to draft Okoro.
Celtics trade up to #10 to draft Vassell.
Wizards trade down to #11 to draft Achiuwa.
Kings stay at #12 and draft Lewis Jr.
Pelicans stay at #13 and draft Bey.
Suns trade down to #14 to draft Smith.
Knicks trade up to #15 to draft Maxey.


Pretty cool list for sure! But who/ what else do we get in the Boston trade man? Any players coming back ( thoughts on this)? What additional pick do you see us having post trade? ( 26 or 30), Who do we take with the other pick? If we go with a big at 14, Then should I assume that we'll select a guard at 26 or 30? :nod:


No players involved, just pick for picks. #10 for #14 and #26. They keep #30 and also still have #47 as well. Now i went with Smith because i like Smith lol. I think if we do go for this pick trade, we grab a big with the 1st pick, as if you look at the list of guards that are being associated with us, they all are projected to be taken later on in the 1st. You have to believe that one of Bane/Terry/Anthony/Quickly/Flynn/Jones/Riller will be available. If we walk away from the draft with Smith and Bane or Riller, id be ecstatic. Now the James Jones approach may be different. He seems like the type that would look at that list of guards projected to go later in the 1st and say im just going to reach to make sure i get my guy, my choice of all those names as opposed to drafting the guard with the #26 and being stuck with just one of the names available (Instead of it being his choice selection). Same can be said with grabbing one of the many bigs projected to be a late 1st/2nd round pick. He would pretty much be reaching as they are for the most part being projected as 2nd round picks, so once again he would get his choice as opposed to his choice of the names left over.

So situation A: I would be looking to grab Smith and Bane. Jones situation B: Grabbing Bane 1st so you know you get him, and grabbing a big like Tillie with the 2nd pick.


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Post#2069 » by RedIndian » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:23 am

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Blonde wrote:Give Rubio a PG to mentor for the next two years. It will be the most valuable thing Rubio can do for this team during his contract (not meant at all as a slight against Ricky). If all of Hayes, Lewis, and Haliburton are off the board I might rethink this. But I am still relatively high on other PG prospects in Cole Anthony, Terry, and Maxey who would be available.

Less keen on non-initiator types like Bane or Nesmith, and even less interested in most of the bigs in this class. I could be sold on Bane in the mid teens.


There is a good chance you know this, but I think of Bane as an able initiator. He did avg almost 4 ast per 36, 1 less than Lewis...I think he'd be a little more of a Brogdon type next to Booker (or Rubio) or a Beal type....a guy who can really shoot but also initiate the offense if need be...make plays for others..but also is very good defensively and does the little things.

I do think of Lewis as more of a score first PG, and while some feel that's the way PGs should be these days, I do really value a guy who looks for others a bit more.

Hayes has a really good shot to assist ratio...only a little over 1.5. Haliburton is about 1.75, Lewis is about 2.8....so definitely looks to score a lot more than the other guys,and is the smallest, so he definitely would play PG..on top of that he is the worst shooter of the bunch...his quickness probably allows him to get to the rim, but despite him being worse from 3, he is also worse from 2 (less than 50% career) compared to Haliburton (over 62%) and Bane (over 54%).

Now back the shot to assist ratio, Bane shoots over 3x as many shots as assists, but he is also a SG who will typically not be the primary initiator but more of a secondary one who still averaged 3.9 apg in college.

I think my problem with Bane is that he's not a great ball-handler, and doesn't have a great first step. When you're 6'5 with a short wingspan, if you want to be a creator / initiator, you'd be better be a very good ball-handler or have a great first step. Sure, he's a high IQ player and moves the ball really well, but I seriously doubt that he'd come into the NBA and carve out a role for himself as a secondary creator / initiator. I think his role in the NBA is primarily going to be as a 3 n D player, defending 1s and 2s and spotting up. That should be a nice player, but I just don't think we'd be doing enough justice to the #10 pick. I'm fine taking him with a later pick if we're trading down.

Like I've mentioned, my favoured prospects at the #10 are Haliburton (no brainer if he's available), and then Saddiq Bey. I have far greater faith in Saddiq Bey turning out to be a superior initiator at the NBA level, simply because of his size. I think 6'7 or 6'8 is a swing height in the NBA, and if you have the ability to handle the ball or create at that size, you're going to be successful, especially if you can shoot. His maturity and defensive switchability are major pluses too.

If we're hell-bent on getting a PG, I think Kira would be my pick from the lot of Kira, Cole, Terry, Maledon and Maxey.

Cole is too much of an enigma (even though clearly the most talented).

Terry I just can't see replicating someone like Trae or Steph whom he often gets compared to. He's a great shooter, but what sets Trae and Steph apart is their absolutely elite ball-handling and ability to create separation. With Trae, you also have elite passing ability. Terry I think is a fairly limited ball-handler and an average playmaker. I think he'll be more of a secondary guard in the NBA in the mould of a Seth Curry. I also think he'll be a complete liability on defense - just a very poor frame, and below average length.

Maledon intrigues me, especially given the Tony Parker mentorship, but I frankly don't know enough about him.

I like Maxey's potential as a scorer, but his efficiency was pretty poor.

All things considered, Kira is the one I'm most confident in projecting as an NBA player. Now Kira isn't the most polished prospect , but I really am confident in his speed standing out in the NBA. I mean if a player as limited as Ish Smith can carve out a role in the NBA based on nothing but pure speed, Kira's going to make it. Whether it's going to be as a Dennis Schroder type 6th man, or a high-level Fox type starter, I'm not sure. But if his floor Schroder, that's frankly good enough.
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Post#2070 » by TheLogician » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:53 am

Givony has us taking Nesmith at #10.
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Post#2071 » by Saberestar » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:55 am

RedIndian wrote:I think my problem with Bane is that he's not a great ball-handler, and doesn't have a great first step. When you're 6'5 with a short wingspan, if you want to be a creator / initiator, you'd be better be a very good ball-handler or have a great first step. Sure, he's a high IQ player and moves the ball really well, but I seriously doubt that he'd come into the NBA and carve out a role for himself as a secondary creator / initiator. I think his role in the NBA is primarily going to be as a 3 n D player, defending 1s and 2s and spotting up. That should be a nice player, but I just don't think we'd be doing enough justice to the #10 pick. I'm fine taking him with a later pick if we're trading down.

Like I've mentioned, my favoured prospects at the #10 are Haliburton (no brainer if he's available), and then Saddiq Bey. I have far greater faith in Saddiq Bey turning out to be a superior initiator at the NBA level, simply because of his size. I think 6'7 or 6'8 is a swing height in the NBA, and if you have the ability to handle the ball or create at that size, you're going to be successful, especially if you can shoot. His maturity and defensive switchability are major pluses too.

If we're hell-bent on getting a PG, I think Kira would be my pick from the lot of Kira, Cole, Terry, Maledon and Maxey.

Cole is too much of an enigma (even though clearly the most talented).

Terry I just can't see replicating someone like Trae or Steph whom he often gets compared to. He's a great shooter, but what sets Trae and Steph apart is their absolutely elite ball-handling and ability to create separation. With Trae, you also have elite passing ability. Terry I think is a fairly limited ball-handler and an average playmaker. I think he'll be more of a secondary guard in the NBA in the mould of a Seth Curry. I also think he'll be a complete liability on defense - just a very poor frame, and below average length.

Maledon intrigues me, especially given the Tony Parker mentorship, but I frankly don't know enough about him.

I like Maxey's potential as a scorer, but his efficiency was pretty poor.

All things considered, Kira is the one I'm most confident in projecting as an NBA player. Now Kira isn't the most polished prospect , but I really am confident in his speed standing out in the NBA. I mean if a player as limited as Ish Smith can carve out a role in the NBA based on nothing but pure speed, Kira's going to make it. Whether it's going to be as a Dennis Schroder type 6th man, or a high-level Fox type starter, I'm not sure. But if his floor Schroder, that's frankly good enough.

A couple of things about Bane...

He looks a great ball handler to me, I have seen two full games and I have been really surprised about his tight ball handling. I thought that he was primary a wing, but after watching him in depth I think that he will be a combo guard in the NBA. And he looks great as a team defender, he is always adjusting on defense and his awareness on that side of the court looks NBA ready.

Another thing that I have noticed is that he is smaller that what I firstly thought. Measured 6’4 without shoes, 6’5 with shoes, 219 lbs, with a 6’4 wingspan and 8’4 standing reach at the June 2017 USA U19 tryouts (nbadraft.net) . That is good enough to defend PGs and SGs but he will have a tough time defending wings and frontcourt players...so he will not be that switchable as we probably thought, but who knows.

Physically he reminds me of Shannon Brown. Not as long but taller, and both are super strong. If you remember him he was really good defending bigger players in the post or around the rim because of his strength and teams couldn't take advantage of his small height. So I hope that will happen with Bane too.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch 

Post#2072 » by bwgood77 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:15 pm

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RedIndian wrote:I think my problem with Bane is that he's not a great ball-handler, and doesn't have a great first step. When you're 6'5 with a short wingspan, if you want to be a creator / initiator, you'd be better be a very good ball-handler or have a great first step. Sure, he's a high IQ player and moves the ball really well, but I seriously doubt that he'd come into the NBA and carve out a role for himself as a secondary creator / initiator. I think his role in the NBA is primarily going to be as a 3 n D player, defending 1s and 2s and spotting up. That should be a nice player, but I just don't think we'd be doing enough justice to the #10 pick. I'm fine taking him with a later pick if we're trading down.

Like I've mentioned, my favoured prospects at the #10 are Haliburton (no brainer if he's available), and then Saddiq Bey. I have far greater faith in Saddiq Bey turning out to be a superior initiator at the NBA level, simply because of his size. I think 6'7 or 6'8 is a swing height in the NBA, and if you have the ability to handle the ball or create at that size, you're going to be successful, especially if you can shoot. His maturity and defensive switchability are major pluses too.

If we're hell-bent on getting a PG, I think Kira would be my pick from the lot of Kira, Cole, Terry, Maledon and Maxey.

Cole is too much of an enigma (even though clearly the most talented).

Terry I just can't see replicating someone like Trae or Steph whom he often gets compared to. He's a great shooter, but what sets Trae and Steph apart is their absolutely elite ball-handling and ability to create separation. With Trae, you also have elite passing ability. Terry I think is a fairly limited ball-handler and an average playmaker. I think he'll be more of a secondary guard in the NBA in the mould of a Seth Curry. I also think he'll be a complete liability on defense - just a very poor frame, and below average length.

Maledon intrigues me, especially given the Tony Parker mentorship, but I frankly don't know enough about him.

I like Maxey's potential as a scorer, but his efficiency was pretty poor.

All things considered, Kira is the one I'm most confident in projecting as an NBA player. Now Kira isn't the most polished prospect , but I really am confident in his speed standing out in the NBA. I mean if a player as limited as Ish Smith can carve out a role in the NBA based on nothing but pure speed, Kira's going to make it. Whether it's going to be as a Dennis Schroder type 6th man, or a high-level Fox type starter, I'm not sure. But if his floor Schroder, that's frankly good enough.

A couple of things about Bane...

He looks a great ball handler to me, I have seen two full games and I have been really surprised about his tight ball handling. I thought that he was primary a wing, but after watching him in depth I think that he will be a combo guard in the NBA. And he looks great as a team defender, he is always adjusting on defense and his awareness on that side of the court looks NBA ready.

Another thing that I have noticed is that he is smaller that what I firstly thought. Measured 6’4 without shoes, 6’5 with shoes, 219 lbs, with a 6’4 wingspan and 8’4 standing reach at the June 2017 USA U19 tryouts (nbadraft.net) . That is good enough to defend PGs and SGs but he will have a tough time defending wings and frontcourt players...so he will not be that switchable as we probably thought, but who knows.

Physically he reminds me of Shannon Brown. Not as long but taller, and both are super strong. If you remember him he was really good defending bigger players in the post or around the rim because of his strength and teams couldn't take advantage of his small height. So I hope that will happen with Bane too.


Yeah, here it says "his handle isn't bad, and much improved from last year, but could still use some work" but overall his synopsis, and breakdown of his offense and defense sounds perfect for our team and like a guy who could play with Rubio or Booker with his great shooting, smart play and secondary creator skills.

This is from Spencer Pearlman, who spends all his time breaking down tape and scouting. He also did work for the Suns last offseason and was in the final stages of scouting jobs with several other teams. I talk to him a bit, but he's really busy right now trying to get into the door somewhere.

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Post#2075 » by Saberestar » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:59 pm

According to multiple sources, Vanderbilt's Aaron Nesmith is generating interest from late-lottery teams, including the Phoenix Suns at No. 10. Some skeptics see him as a one-dimensional player, but as one scout put it: "The only thing going for Nesmith is he can truly shoot at an elite level right now in the league. That's his skill, and it's a major skill."

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Post#2076 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:56 pm

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According to multiple sources, Vanderbilt's Aaron Nesmith is generating interest from late-lottery teams, including the Phoenix Suns at No. 10. Some skeptics see him as a one-dimensional player, but as one scout put it: "The only thing going for Nesmith is he can truly shoot at an elite level right now in the league. That's his skill, and it's a major skill."

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I don't know what to make of him. His 3pt shooting was ridiculous good last season, abiet in a limited sample because of injury. As mentioned he's not really good at much else so is he a taller troy daniels or if he's the best 3pt shooter in the league does it really matter what else he can do?

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Post#2077 » by TheLogician » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:28 am

Nesmith took a big jump last year, so maybe there’s untapped potential there. If he were a secondary ball handler/playmaker he would be one of the first picks. As is, he reminds me of Cam Johnson in a 2/3. Not a bad thing, IMO.
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Post#2078 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:52 am

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Tyler Bey again would be an awesome secondary pick with a late first/ early 2nd. He's the 2nd most versatile wing player in the draft only behind Devin Vassell. He'd offer ELITE VERSATILE LOCKDOWN DEFENSE, and much like Haliburton, He's also a very efficient shooter from three at over 41%. :nod:
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Post#2080 » by DirtyDez » Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:55 am

1. Minnesota - Anthony Edwards
2. Golden St - James Wiseman
3. Charlotte - LaMelo Ball
4. Chicago - Tyrese Halliburton
5. Cleveland - Isaac Okoro
6. Atlanta - Deni Avdija
7. Detroit - Killian Hayes
8. New York -

That’s where I get stuck but I think the top-7 are in some order falling that way. I think Cleveland needs a hard edge wing so I went Okoro over Vassell. New York could go Obi who would have Robinson protecting him defensively. Okongwu would do the same for Hachimura. So the usual suspects we’ve discussed would be there...

I’ve backed off Kira a bit so maybe look to trade back if the board falls like above. What prospects would be worthy of a team trading up for? Vassell? Williams??
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.

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