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Those players a being slept on:
Paul Reed
Robert Woodard
Daniel Oturu
Immanuel Quickley
Cassius Winston
Xavier Tillman
Grant Riler
Zeke Nnaji
Tiler Bey
Isea Joe
Paul Reed
Robert Woodard
Daniel Oturu
Immanuel Quickley
Cassius Winston
Xavier Tillman
Grant Riler
Zeke Nnaji
Tiler Bey
Isea Joe

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Has anyone got a list of measurement and athletic testing results?
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stormi wrote:doordoor123 wrote:stormi wrote:
My opinion on Terry has been fluctuating. I usually like him more when I think we can't draft him, but now I'm starting to get higher on the other guards like Jones and Anthony and lower on him. He does bring a sharpshooting ability that we don't have and he can run the point but the lack of quick twitch like you said is what separates him from guys like Steph and Trae Young. He reminds me of a Seth clone, so still a valuable role player. Joe too is extremely slender but he uses his wingspan and length really well to disrupt passing lanes and get steals. Also has a really pretty form and has been good from the ft line over his college career so he's a natural shooter and athletic. I think they're both semi projects that can contribute right away but in Joe's case it's going to be a few years before he can really impact winning.
If he was only a shooter I’d say sure, but he can make those deep threes consistently and he has a great pace about his game. He’s one of the better passers in this draft IMO, even though there are a lot of great passers in this draft. Seth doesn’t see the floor nearly as well.
The thing about this draft I just realized is that there are a lot of good passers and the NBA doesn’t have a lot of good passers.
Definitely one of the more interesting drafts to be tracking in a while, I feel like it's going to break down once the consensus ~10 are off the board
I don't think there is a consensus 10. Guys are all over the place.
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doordoor123 wrote:stormi wrote:doordoor123 wrote:
If he was only a shooter I’d say sure, but he can make those deep threes consistently and he has a great pace about his game. He’s one of the better passers in this draft IMO, even though there are a lot of great passers in this draft. Seth doesn’t see the floor nearly as well.
The thing about this draft I just realized is that there are a lot of good passers and the NBA doesn’t have a lot of good passers.
Definitely one of the more interesting drafts to be tracking in a while, I feel like it's going to break down once the consensus ~10 are off the board
I don't think there is a consensus 10. Guys are all over the place.
I think in terms of mocks anyways guys like: Edwards/Wiseman/Ball/Deni/Toppin/Hayes/Okoro/OO/Vassell/Haliburton are usually projected with less variety, than everyone else. Not to say it's set in stone and none of those guys could fall, or guys like Patrick Williams or Kira Lewis couldn't go much higher, but it's almost expected to be much more volatile and i'd be shocked if any of those 10 guys were still on the board at pick 20.
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stormi wrote:doordoor123 wrote:stormi wrote:
Definitely one of the more interesting drafts to be tracking in a while, I feel like it's going to break down once the consensus ~10 are off the board
I don't think there is a consensus 10. Guys are all over the place.
I think in terms of mocks anyways guys like: Edwards/Wiseman/Ball/Deni/Toppin/Hayes/Okoro/OO/Vassell/Haliburton are usually projected with less variety, than everyone else. Not to say it's set in stone and none of those guys could fall, or guys like Patrick Williams or Kira Lewis couldn't go much higher, but it's almost expected to be much more volatile and i'd be shocked if any of those 10 guys were still on the board at pick 20.
There have been drafts when guys unexpectedly rise and fall. I think last year was like one of the first years that was kind of predictable.
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doordoor123 wrote:stormi wrote:doordoor123 wrote:
I don't think there is a consensus 10. Guys are all over the place.
I think in terms of mocks anyways guys like: Edwards/Wiseman/Ball/Deni/Toppin/Hayes/Okoro/OO/Vassell/Haliburton are usually projected with less variety, than everyone else. Not to say it's set in stone and none of those guys could fall, or guys like Patrick Williams or Kira Lewis couldn't go much higher, but it's almost expected to be much more volatile and i'd be shocked if any of those 10 guys were still on the board at pick 20.
There have been drafts when guys unexpectedly rise and fall. I think last year was like one of the first years that was kind of predictable.
Feeling like another one of those years tbh
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Man, thats pretty wild to set all those records in a single draft.
Udoka is going higher than people think. Some team will hope he can be molded into a DAJ type. A 37 inch at that size and weight is mind blowing. Yes, everyone wants a shooting big but a guy with his size, length, weight, athleticism and arguably most importantly, knows his limitations, is someone who will find a role in this league.
Bey was a telegraphed steal but I think he climbs now, probably into the middle / late teens (14-19). He has the whole 'high end role player' package outside the 3PT volume one would want.
Still not sold on Stanley, I think the guy he almost bested in the vert, Diallo, is an apt NBA comparison. A ball of clay that may take an entire rookie contract to get the consistency to be a rotation guy on a winning team. Still worth a top-40 pick IMO.
OT: Didnt know who Kenny Gregory was. A guy with a 45 inch vert who averaged .2 blocks per game his senior year is just mind blowing lol
Udoka is going higher than people think. Some team will hope he can be molded into a DAJ type. A 37 inch at that size and weight is mind blowing. Yes, everyone wants a shooting big but a guy with his size, length, weight, athleticism and arguably most importantly, knows his limitations, is someone who will find a role in this league.
Bey was a telegraphed steal but I think he climbs now, probably into the middle / late teens (14-19). He has the whole 'high end role player' package outside the 3PT volume one would want.
Still not sold on Stanley, I think the guy he almost bested in the vert, Diallo, is an apt NBA comparison. A ball of clay that may take an entire rookie contract to get the consistency to be a rotation guy on a winning team. Still worth a top-40 pick IMO.
OT: Didnt know who Kenny Gregory was. A guy with a 45 inch vert who averaged .2 blocks per game his senior year is just mind blowing lol
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Udoka is still going to be the worst shooter in the NBA. His FT% is horrible and it will likely never be over 60%.
Bey is still what we think he's going to be, a super athletic roleplayer.
Stanley might be underrated because of how young he is if his body fills out, but more or less what we expected.
This doesn't move the needle on any of these guys for me.
Bey is still what we think he's going to be, a super athletic roleplayer.
Stanley might be underrated because of how young he is if his body fills out, but more or less what we expected.
This doesn't move the needle on any of these guys for me.
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Tyler Bey reminds of a sf version of Clarke as a ceiling to be high impact role player you may place on almost any lineup.
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Tyler Bey reminds of a sf version of Clarke as a ceiling to be high impact role player you may place on almost any lineup.
Ya, I think he is going to be an elte role player. He has some shades of Marion to his game. Somewhere between Marion and a SF version of Clarke is where I would put him.
I really dont see what guys like Okoro and Pat Williams have over him other than age. Bey can carve out a 20mpg role on a good team as a rookie IMO. Thats rare.
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I'm stunned that Azubuike - as huge as he is and relatively stiff - can jump that high. That's as big a surprise as I can remember in a draft combine.
I think TBey's measurements ensure that he'll go in the 1st round - if there was any doubt before.
I think TBey's measurements ensure that he'll go in the 1st round - if there was any doubt before.
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BlazersBroncos wrote:Tyler Bey reminds of a sf version of Clarke as a ceiling to be high impact role player you may place on almost any lineup.
Ya, I think he is going to be an elte role player. He has some shades of Marion to his game. Somewhere between Marion and a SF version of Clarke is where I would put him.
I really dont see what guys like Okoro and Pat Williams have over him other than age. Bey can carve out a 20mpg role on a good team as a rookie IMO. Thats rare.
Honestly, i don't think of him as a 3 - despite his size - in today's NBA. It might depend on what team he goes to.
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Ruzious wrote:I'm stunned that Azubuike - as huge as he is and relatively stiff - can jump that high. That's as big a surprise as I can remember in a draft combine.
Stunned? He's incredibly athletic. Not sure what you've been watching the last 4 years.
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EvanZ wrote:Ruzious wrote:I'm stunned that Azubuike - as huge as he is and relatively stiff - can jump that high. That's as big a surprise as I can remember in a draft combine.
Stunned? He's incredibly athletic. Not sure what you've been watching the last 4 years.
Hmm, I'll give you - for his size, he's very athletic and compared to Tacko Fall he's very athletic. Other than that - correct, we've been watching different players for 4 years.
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Hmm, I'll give you - for his size, he's very athletic and compared to Tacko Fall he's very athletic. Other than that - correct, we've been watching different players for 4 years.
For his size he is an insane athlete. I would love to see his 2nd jump measurements. Big guys like him need to get high on that 2nd jump, not just the max vert.
Honestly, i don't think of him as a 3 - despite his size - in today's NBA. It might depend on what team he goes to.
Why? If anything his main value will be as a long, super athletic guy who can defend the big SF's in this league. He is missing one tool that you want your starting SF to have, a 3PT shot, but still he was at 40% on low volume this season and his FT% of 74% makes me optimistic that he can build his shot up.
If he is a PF, then Okoro, Pat Williams, Deni, etc are all PF's. I honestly think he is more of a SF than any of them. His footspeed and agility / quickness is on par with an athletic SG IMO.
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Azbuike also has a terrible feel for the game. Makes bad passesand he's pretty bad awareness when operating in the post for a 7 footer.
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doordoor123 wrote:Azbuike also has a terrible feel for the game. Makes bad passesand he's pretty bad awareness when operating in the post for a 7 footer.
He's also probably 24 and can't shoot free throws. Those are bigger issues to me than his lack of feel.
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