2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II

UnFadeable21 · Post #1701 » by **UnFadeable21** » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:23 pm

Maxey and Edwards full workout.

Maxey is first, Edwards starts at 14:00 min mark. Watched the entire thing during lunch break.

Edwards is an explosive leaper but his jumper is way inconsistent. His catch and shoot is terrible. He missed more than 50% of his shots in the open gym with no defense.

Says he often checked out mentally on defense and is still learning how to play basketball.

Tom Creen his coach said for him to succeed, he will need a good coach and good veteran mentors to steer him the right way.

His talent level can be like Dwade and Olandipo, his former players with similar size. 6'4 shooting guards.

karch34 · Post #1702 » by **karch34** » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:48 pm

Dane Moore had Jonathan Tjarks on his podcast. A few interesting tidbits were he thought Edwards didn't get enough credit as a passer and Stewart destroyed Wiseman all through high school and felt his defensive ability was still theoretical.

younggunsmn · Post #1703 » by **younggunsmn** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:46 am

The one thing that stuck out to me from that pro day tape is that Edwards has a very bad habit of bringing the ball back down below his waist on his jumper, which is going to be very hard to break. It's going to be tough for him to be consistent and take too long to get his shots off until he fixes that.
The top part of his shot is actually pretty good mechanically, elbow and wrist are straight, angle is good, and uses the right amount of wrist versus pushing the ball with the arm. His touch is average though.
It's going to be a real struggle for him to ever hit 35% from deep.
He does have excellent strength in his lower body and should be able to finish at an above average level.
Is the athleticism going to play against NBA level athletes?

I still prefer Wiseman, but I like him better than Ball.
If we end up with him in a trade down it wouldnt be the end of the world.

UnFadeable21 · Post #1704 » by **UnFadeable21** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:34 am

younggunsmn wrote:The one thing that stuck out to me from that pro day tape is that Edwards has a very bad habit of bringing the ball back down below his waist on his jumper, which is going to be very hard to break. It's going to be tough for him to be consistent and take too long to get his shots off until he fixes that.
The top part of his shot is actually pretty good mechanically, elbow and wrist are straight, angle is good, and uses the right amount of wrist versus pushing the ball with the arm. His touch is average though.
It's going to be a real struggle for him to ever hit 35% from deep.
He does have excellent strength in his lower body and should be able to finish at an above average level.
Is the athleticism going to play against NBA level athletes?

I still prefer Wiseman, but I like him better than Ball.
If we end up with him in a trade down it wouldnt be the end of the world.

Yup, the form looks okay but the shot doesn’t go in at all. No wonder he shot 29% from 3.

UnFadeable21 · Post #1705 » by **UnFadeable21** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:50 am

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Rich Paul and Klutch Sports responds to critics for Edwards and Maxey Pro Day

minimus · Post #1706 » by **minimus** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:02 am

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He shot 74.8% FG

minimus · Post #1707 » by **minimus** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:23 am

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Post #1708 » by **Mamba4Goat** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:49 am

younggunsmn wrote:The one thing that stuck out to me from that pro day tape is that Edwards has a very bad habit of bringing the ball back down below his waist on his jumper, which is going to be very hard to break. It's going to be tough for him to be consistent and take too long to get his shots off until he fixes that.
The top part of his shot is actually pretty good mechanically, elbow and wrist are straight, angle is good, and uses the right amount of wrist versus pushing the ball with the arm. His touch is average though.
It's going to be a real struggle for him to ever hit 35% from deep.
He does have excellent strength in his lower body and should be able to finish at an above average level.
Is the athleticism going to play against NBA level athletes?

I still prefer Wiseman, but I like him better than Ball.
If we end up with him in a trade down it wouldnt be the end of the world.

I was listening to Darren Wolfson’s recent pod with Babcock and Windhorst and they made it sound like Wiseman and his camp aren’t interested in interacting with Minnesota due to KAT being here.

minimus · Post #1709 » by **minimus** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:21 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:The one thing that stuck out to me from that pro day tape is that Edwards has a very bad habit of bringing the ball back down below his waist on his jumper, which is going to be very hard to break. It's going to be tough for him to be consistent and take too long to get his shots off until he fixes that.
The top part of his shot is actually pretty good mechanically, elbow and wrist are straight, angle is good, and uses the right amount of wrist versus pushing the ball with the arm. His touch is average though.
It's going to be a real struggle for him to ever hit 35% from deep.
He does have excellent strength in his lower body and should be able to finish at an above average level.
Is the athleticism going to play against NBA level athletes?

I still prefer Wiseman, but I like him better than Ball.
If we end up with him in a trade down it wouldnt be the end of the world.

I was listening to Darren Wolfson’s recent pod with Babcock and Windhorst and they made it sound like Wiseman and his camp aren’t interested in interacting with Minnesota due to KAT being here.

A wise man

Dewey · Post #1710 » by **Dewey** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:16 pm

LeVar now pushing for LeMelo to NKY or Detroit ... Wiseman and agent keeping their distance from MN ... so far Edwards is the only top 3 that wants MN.

Now the biggest question ... is there a win now player that actually wants to play with DLo and KAT?

The tangled webs we weave

Midw35t · Post #1711 » by **Midw35t** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:47 pm

Mamba4Goat wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:The one thing that stuck out to me from that pro day tape is that Edwards has a very bad habit of bringing the ball back down below his waist on his jumper, which is going to be very hard to break. It's going to be tough for him to be consistent and take too long to get his shots off until he fixes that.
The top part of his shot is actually pretty good mechanically, elbow and wrist are straight, angle is good, and uses the right amount of wrist versus pushing the ball with the arm. His touch is average though.
It's going to be a real struggle for him to ever hit 35% from deep.
He does have excellent strength in his lower body and should be able to finish at an above average level.
Is the athleticism going to play against NBA level athletes?

I still prefer Wiseman, but I like him better than Ball.
If we end up with him in a trade down it wouldnt be the end of the world.

I was listening to Darren Wolfson’s recent pod with Babcock and Windhorst and they made it sound like Wiseman and his camp aren’t interested in interacting with Minnesota due to KAT being here.

That is really unfortunate if true. I would be trying really hard to trade down/out then.

Post #1712 » by **Worm Guts** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:53 pm

If Wiseman was really the guy I wanted, I wouldn’t let him not working out prevent us from taking him. Of course given that he only played 3 games in college, we probably would need to have him workout to really feel comfortable with his abilities. It kind of sucks.

Dewey · Post #1713 » by **Dewey** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:45 pm

Worm Guts wrote:If Wiseman was really the guy I wanted, I wouldn’t let him not working out prevent us from taking him. Of course given that he only played 3 games in college, we probably would need to have him workout to really feel comfortable with his abilities. It kind of sucks.

Curry flashback

Post #1714 » by **Worm Guts** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:50 pm

Dewey wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:If Wiseman was really the guy I wanted, I wouldn’t let him not working out prevent us from taking him. Of course given that he only played 3 games in college, we probably would need to have him workout to really feel comfortable with his abilities. It kind of sucks.

Curry flashback

Curry at least had plenty of tape though.

CptCrunch · Post #1715 » by **CptCrunch** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:39 pm

minimus wrote:

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We truly live in the era of fake news ushered in the conservatives and co. NBA measurements can't even be believed and are likely completely made up these days.

LibertyPrime · Post #1716 » by **LibertyPrime** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:56 pm

Anyone know how Okongwu's workouts are going?

younggunsmn · Post #1717 » by **younggunsmn** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:57 pm

Mamba4Goat wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:The one thing that stuck out to me from that pro day tape is that Edwards has a very bad habit of bringing the ball back down below his waist on his jumper, which is going to be very hard to break. It's going to be tough for him to be consistent and take too long to get his shots off until he fixes that.
The top part of his shot is actually pretty good mechanically, elbow and wrist are straight, angle is good, and uses the right amount of wrist versus pushing the ball with the arm. His touch is average though.
It's going to be a real struggle for him to ever hit 35% from deep.
He does have excellent strength in his lower body and should be able to finish at an above average level.
Is the athleticism going to play against NBA level athletes?

I still prefer Wiseman, but I like him better than Ball.
If we end up with him in a trade down it wouldnt be the end of the world.

I was listening to Darren Wolfson’s recent pod with Babcock and Windhorst and they made it sound like Wiseman and his camp aren’t interested in interacting with Minnesota due to KAT being here.

That's an absolute non-factor for me. It's understandable, both GS and Charlotte are much better situations for him. We have to take the top talent regardless, and that pro day tape solidified for me that Wiseman is head and shoulders above the rest. All we got with Lamelo was a sit down interview anyway. Curry wouldnt work out here either and we ended up with Jonny Flynn.

I'm of the opinion that we need to start looking down the road past KAT. All of the early warning signs are there, this is going to turn into another Kevin Love situation, probably whether we win or not.

minimus · Post #1718 » by **minimus** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:02 pm

CptCrunch wrote:
minimus wrote:

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We truly live in the era of fake news ushered in the conservatives and co. NBA measurements can't even be believed and are likely completely made up these days.

Fake news? I have zero doubts that Tyler Bey is that athletic.

I also never doubted that JC can have 45 inch vertical. The question is how we evaluate prospects in a combination of many factors

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JR Rider · Post #1719 » by **JR Rider** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:45 pm

CptCrunch wrote:
minimus wrote:

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We truly live in the era of fake news ushered in the conservatives and co. NBA measurements can't even be believed and are likely completely made up these days.

No question, that vertical is real to me. I've watched Bey play a few times. He reminds me athletically of a taller Russell Westbrook. Nowhere near the basketball skill of Russell. However freak athlete no doubt.

JR Rider · Post #1720 » by **JR Rider** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:48 pm

Wiseman is the best prospect.

I believe Wiseman is a more athletic version of Embiid, when its said and done.

With that said, everyone's concern is fit.

If we trade down and get additional assets, or select Wiseman, I am happy. If we stand pat and take someone other than Wiseman, that would be biggest disappointment to me.

Who should Minnesota Pick at #1 (Assuming Minnesota keeps the pick)?