2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still

[BallSacBounce]

I just think at the end of the day Biden is not a good presidential candidate. Neither his views or his personality energized people, he is the oldest candidate in history who's going to be president 4 years max, probably less, which was compounded by calling a lid and messing up the teleprompter constantly. He is carrying multiple scandals between Hunter and Tara Reade.

In any other election Biden would make sense as the jobber candidate if you think you're going to lose anyways. Like if the Republicans had an overwhelming re election candidate, it would like ok, instead of wasting one of our future candidates let's just use up this longtime politician here and wait for next time. Like McCain, and I was too young for it, but I'm assuming Dole was sort of waving the white flag on Clinton's re-election by using 73 year old guy and waiting for 2000.

The Democrats strategy has essentially been to "win by default" assuming that people hate Trump so much that they just have to put anyone out there they're ok with and it will be enough. In my opinion this is the losing strategy and Trump is in fact a very hard candidate to beat, but we'll see.

This is exactly what's happening. Twice very early in the primaries failed presidential candidate is escorted to the top for a fond farewell.

Bon Voyage Mr. Potemkin, it's off to the retirement home for you.

[Dr Positivity]

The only result that will be accepted is Biden blowout in my opinion, or at least Biden solid (300+).

If Biden wins by skin tight margin, Trump will accuse Democrats of voter fraud. Note that if Biden wins Pennsylvania close it's probable that the arc is Trump is winning on election night followed by Biden catching up in mail in votes. So it opens the door for questions about those votes. This is really a perfect storm where one of the only states with no early in person votes in Pennsylvania and therefore likely to be counted late is the most important state in the election.

If Trump wins by skin tight margin, Democrats will claim they cheated and that the mail in vote deadlines weren't long enough, etc, especially if Minnesota is enough to tip it.

If Trump wins in a blowout (such as Trump winning the popular vote, hence the polls being 10 points+ wrong), it becomes a "the polls could not have been this wrong, this isn't believable" situation for the Democrats hence causing the claims that he cheated to be even bigger than it was in a tight race.

The media is far more likely to believe at this point that Trump cheated than they would that they, the media could be wrong. Easy for them to push "the polls were right, the results were fake". In any Trump win this may be the narrative.

Read on Twitter

[Polk377]

1981 is calling and they want their politics back.

History has a way of repeating itself. Those who know never forget.

The only thing repeating itself is stale political memes about something that no longer exists

OMG I'm so sorry I had no idea that communism and socialism were abolished from this planet. China and Russia have really become the staple and true leaders of Democracy in the world. Are you insane?

[Pointgod]

That is what happens when you put a known communist in charge of a major city. Imagine that on a Federal level if the DNC gets it's way. Time to demand that Warren Wilhelm Jr. leaves NYC and never comes back.

Communist, Socialist it’s almost like you have no idea what these words mean.

I know exactly what those words mean. That is why I will never stand by and let either invade this country for the sake of Orange Man bad idiots.

Actually you definitely don’t or else you’d realize that neither ideology would ever take hold in the US. What you’re confusing it with is Authoritarianism and a Dictatorship which is exactly what Trump is setting the US to slide into if he wins the next 4 years. He’s actually doing it right now by insisting that every vote shouldn’t count.

[thebuzzardman]

History has a way of repeating itself. Those who know never forget.

The only thing repeating itself is stale political memes about something that no longer exists

OMG I'm so sorry I had no idea that communism and socialism were abolished from this planet. China and Russia have really become the staple and true leaders of Democracy in the world. Are you insane?

All your posts are about communism coming to the USA, not China or Russia having it within their borders.

And, uh, who said anything about China or Russia? Not me. I'm not even sure what your comment is. That they are still a threat? That you consider them the true leaders of the world?

Honestly, this post was even more ranty and less clear than even all your others.

I'd think there are sane people who could consider those countries threats while not mistaking the government having a role in society as "SOCIALISM!!!!!!"

Whatever. Tired of all these half baked old political memes.

[Pointgod]

The only result that will be accepted is Biden blowout in my opinion, or at least Biden solid (300+).

If Biden wins by skin tight margin, Trump will accuse Democrats of voter fraud. Note that if Biden wins Pennsylvania close it's probable that the arc is Trump is winning on election night followed by Biden catching up in mail in votes. So it opens the door for questions about those votes. This is really a perfect storm where one of the only states with no early in person votes in Pennsylvania and therefore likely to be counted late is the most important state in the election.

If Trump wins by skin tight margin, Democrats will claim they cheated and that the mail in vote deadlines weren't long enough, etc, especially if Minnesota is enough to tip it.

If Trump wins in a blowout (such as Trump winning the popular vote, hence the polls being 10 points+ wrong), it becomes a "the polls could not have been this wrong, this isn't believable" situation for the Democrats hence causing the claims that he cheated to be even bigger than it was in a tight race.

The media is far more likely to believe at this point that Trump cheated than they would that they, the media could be wrong. Easy for them to push "the polls were right, the results were fake". In any Trump win this may be the narrative.

Read on Twitter

So you know a way to avoid all of this would be for Trump to insist that that every vote should be counted and a winner shouldn’t be declared until the votes have been counted. Like literally every other election in the history of the U.S. why is it that every other election in the history of the country was accepted, even in the middle of a civil war, but now in the last 4 years the country will be on the verge of civil war because he won’t accept that he lost? There’s a common denominator here and it all starts and ends with Trump.

[Polk377]

The only thing repeating itself is stale political memes about something that no longer exists

OMG I'm so sorry I had no idea that communism and socialism were abolished from this planet. China and Russia have really become the staple and true leaders of Democracy in the world. Are you insane?

All your posts are about communism coming to the USA, not China or Russia having it within their borders.

And, uh, who said anything about China or Russia? Not me. I'm not even sure what your comment is. That they are still a threat? That you consider them the true leaders of the world?

Honestly, this post was even more ranty and less clear than even all your others.

I'd think there are sane people who could consider those countries threats while not mistaking the government having a role in society as "SOCIALISM!!!!!!"

Whatever. Tired of all these half baked old political memes.

You need to get out more.

[EricAnderson]

What is Trumps obsession with Obama and Hillary?

You’d think he’s running against them not Biden.

Even his followers keep talking about them..it’s creepy

[DOT]

The only thing repeating itself is stale political memes about something that no longer exists

OMG I'm so sorry I had no idea that communism and socialism were abolished from this planet. China and Russia have really become the staple and true leaders of Democracy in the world. Are you insane?

All your posts are about communism coming to the USA, not China or Russia having it within their borders.

And, uh, who said anything about China or Russia? Not me. I'm not even sure what your comment is. That they are still a threat? That you consider them the true leaders of the world?

Honestly, this post was even more ranty and less clear than even all your others.

I'd think there are sane people who could consider those countries threats while not mistaking the government having a role in society as "SOCIALISM!!!!!!"

Whatever. Tired of all these half baked old political memes.

People don't understand that communism and socialism are both economic policies, not political policies. Also that for decades now, China has been transitioning to a blend of communist/capitalistic economy, which is what's fueled their boom

The opposite of democracy is not communism or socialism, it is authoritarianism. China is an authoritarian state, and so is Russia, but that isn't because they're communist (neither are socialist, which is a whole other can of worms that if you don't understand the above, it's certainly not worth my time to get into), as Germany in the 40s was authoritarian as well as capitalistic

Republicans love to conflate democracy with capitalism, but they're not intertwined, and neither are communism/socialism and authoritarianism. Democratic socialism is a thing, and countries like Denmark and Sweden practice Social Democracy (which is democracy with a capitalist economy but strong social safety nets), and that's what the more progressive Americans are pushing for

But that's too complex for some people, who can only see the world as "good" and "bad". Democracy good, socialism bad, therefore the two are opposites and the talking head on tv says these people want socialism so therefore they're bad.

[Polk377]

What is Trumps obsession with Obama and Hillary?

You’d think he’s running against them not Biden.

Even his followers keep talking about them..it’s creepy

He isn't running against Biden, he is an afterthought. Just like nobody is actually voting for Biden, they are voting against Trump. No one actually cares about Biden. That's why he can just go and hide in his basement.

[Clyde_Style]

Communist, Socialist it’s almost like you have no idea what these words mean.

I know exactly what those words mean. That is why I will never stand by and let either invade this country for the sake of Orange Man bad idiots.

Actually you definitely don’t or else you’d realize that neither ideology would ever take hold in the US. What you’re confusing it with is Authoritarianism and a Dictatorship which is exactly what Trump is setting the US to slide into if he wins the next 4 years. He’s actually doing it right now by insisting that every vote shouldn’t count.

When every decent law abiding citizen who supports the constitution should have an issue with Trump's efforts to sabotage a fair democratic election you know that everybody posting here who is down with this sabotage is a fascist. Every single one of them. They don't want democracy. They want idolatry and all of the good stuff that comes with authoritarianism.

Nobody is more anti-American than a MAGA cultist. They oppose everything that the real patriots of this country sweated and died for.

That's why they are all Nazis now. They would not care if every liberal rolled by them on the train tracks. They'd do a victory dance and wave at them as they headed to the crematoriums. To MAGA people, anything is permissible as long as Trump does it. They have no care for others who oppose him.

This is why they promote everything they do as the sins of the opposition. They are violent and filled with hate so in order to deflect they say you (or fictional proxies for anyone they disagree with like Antifa) are violent and full of hate. They say Biden's manufactured scandals are going to take him down when it is Trump's bottomless corruption that taking him down.

The only right and wrong for MAGA is whether you are for or against Donald Trump. There are no other principles that transcend this prime directive.

Therefore, everything gets subsumed into justifications for Trump. Facts do not get in the way of their beliefs, because they are a cult and Trump is their godhead. They will do anything for their fuhrer. They will lie, cheat and steal and then accuse others of the same. This is exactly what makes them Nazis. There is no middle ground. It is all or nothing, principles beyond alleigance be damned. And that means if their leader did get full authoritarian control they would stand by with their marshmallows out while we are burned to the ground by the stormtroopers.

Nobody who is pushing this MAGA propaganda this vociferously, this late in the game, cares about the consequences of their actions. They want what they want and they don't care how they get it. And for those reasons, not a single one of them have any decency left to show compassion towards.

The lines are drawn. They are the enemies of decency and reason. The difference between them and us is we will only prosecute those who committed actual crimes whereas a continuation of the Trump regime will lead to persecution of imagined crimes and complete carnage.

[EricAnderson]

OMG I'm so sorry I had no idea that communism and socialism were abolished from this planet. China and Russia have really become the staple and true leaders of Democracy in the world. Are you insane?

All your posts are about communism coming to the USA, not China or Russia having it within their borders.

And, uh, who said anything about China or Russia? Not me. I'm not even sure what your comment is. That they are still a threat? That you consider them the true leaders of the world?

Honestly, this post was even more ranty and less clear than even all your others.

I'd think there are sane people who could consider those countries threats while not mistaking the government having a role in society as "SOCIALISM!!!!!!"

Whatever. Tired of all these half baked old political memes.

People don't understand that communism and socialism are both economic policies, not political policies. Also that for decades now, China has been transitioning to a blend of communist/capitalistic economy, which is what's fueled their boom

The opposite of democracy is not communism or socialism, it is authoritarianism. China is an authoritarian state, and so is Russia, but that isn't because they're communist (neither are socialist, which is a whole other can of worms that if you don't understand the above, it's certainly not worth my time to get into), as Germany in the 40s was authoritarian as well as capitalistic

Republicans love to conflate democracy with capitalism, but they're not intertwined, and neither are communism/socialism and authoritarianism. Democratic socialism is a thing, and countries like Denmark and Sweden practice Social Democracy (which is democracy with a capitalist economy but strong social safety nets), and that's what the more progressive Americans are pushing for

But that's too complex for some people, who can only see the world as "good" and "bad". Democracy good, socialism bad, therefore the two are opposites and the talking head on tv says these people want socialism so therefore they're bad.

Let’s see how against “socialism” they are when they get older and republicans are threatening to take their social security away

I will say Trumps done an amazing job branding against Democrats

You have people who really believe the world will
End if democrats get in office again and Trump is the only one who can save this country

[BallSacBounce]

Condescending inaccurate attitudes lost you the last election and it will lose you this one. Dinner will be served, Bon Appétit.

Says one of the most condescending posters on all of RealGM

I told everyone who this guy is. He's a 4Chan troll who lies about everything when confronted, who gloats about crushing libtards and who doesn't care who suffers as long as Trump is in control. BSB is a white nationalist and a fascist

Oh wow well will you look at that. That 200,000 is now 9,683 if you don't have any underlying health issues. This just isn't that big of a deal unless you are elderly and/or have underlying health issues. Usually for the elderly they do.

I couldn't give a **** less about it.

It's because of posts like this that..



Your labels don't mean anything to us. They hold no value to anyone but yourselves.

When the red wave comes just know you had a part in creating it. It's **** like this that got Trump elected in the first place and will get him reelected.

For that I thank you.

[Clyde_Style]

Says one of the most condescending posters on all of RealGM

I told everyone who this guy is. He's a 4Chan troll who lies about everything when confronted, who gloats about crushing libtards and who doesn't care who suffers as long as Trump is in control. BSB is a white nationalist and a fascist

Oh wow well will you look at that. That 200,000 is now 9,683 if you don't have any underlying health issues. This just isn't that big of a deal unless you are elderly and/or have underlying health issues. Usually for the elderly they do.

I couldn't give a **** less about it.

It's because of posts like this that..



Your labels don't mean anything to us. They hold no value to anyone but yourselves.

When the red wave comes just know you had a part in creating it. It's **** like this that got Trump elected in the first place and will get him reelected.

For that I thank you.

You had four years to become a human being again and develop some scruples. Those are not labels. That would be the result of you developing a conscience which you clearly lack.

And as you clearly demonstrate here, you are full of resentment at being looked down upon for being such a craven enabler of fascism. These foolish taunts that our disdain for you will fuel our comeuppance is typical MAGA BS when it is in fact merely another example of your inferiority complex and quest for vengeance at the wrongs of the world that never respected someone as repugnant as you.

You're a troll and a Nazi and nobody respects you. Deal with it

[Pointgod]

What is Trumps obsession with Obama and Hillary?

You’d think he’s running against them not Biden.

Even his followers keep talking about them..it’s creepy

He’s fat Elvis playing the old hits because he literally has no accomplishments to campaign on. Anyone that believes Trump is some political genius is sorely mistaken. His campaign is just letting him do whatever the **** he wants to because he thinks he knows more than anyone else. He only won in 2016 because there was a lot of people that fell for the con and an even larger amount that chose not to vote

[BallSacBounce]

The only result that will be accepted is Biden blowout in my opinion, or at least Biden solid (300+).

If Biden wins by skin tight margin, Trump will accuse Democrats of voter fraud. Note that if Biden wins Pennsylvania close it's probable that the arc is Trump is winning on election night followed by Biden catching up in mail in votes. So it opens the door for questions about those votes. This is really a perfect storm where one of the only states with no early in person votes in Pennsylvania and therefore likely to be counted late is the most important state in the election.

If Trump wins by skin tight margin, Democrats will claim they cheated and that the mail in vote deadlines weren't long enough, etc, especially if Minnesota is enough to tip it.

If Trump wins in a blowout (such as Trump winning the popular vote, hence the polls being 10 points+ wrong), it becomes a "the polls could not have been this wrong, this isn't believable" situation for the Democrats hence causing the claims that he cheated to be even bigger than it was in a tight race.

The media is far more likely to believe at this point that Trump cheated than they would that they, the media could be wrong. Easy for them to push "the polls were right, the results were fake". In any Trump win this may be the narrative.

Read on Twitter

Exactly. The Dems have been building up this narrative and the rubes are swallowing it hook, line and sinker.

The polls are bull but after a 4 year campaign of bull saying this President is somehow illegitimate the rubes will explode when it again doesn't go their way. There is some really evil **** out there.

Civil unrest is coming. We are in for some crazy times.

[EricAnderson]

If Trump loses does the GOP go back to the old guard or is Trump now the blueprint where you get a troll who “owns the libs”

[BallSacBounce]

I told everyone who this guy is. He's a 4Chan troll who lies about everything when confronted, who gloats about crushing libtards and who doesn't care who suffers as long as Trump is in control. BSB is a white nationalist and a fascist

It's because of posts like this that..



Your labels don't mean anything to us. They hold no value to anyone but yourselves.

When the red wave comes just know you had a part in creating it. It's **** like this that got Trump elected in the first place and will get him reelected.

For that I thank you.

You had four years to become a human being again and develop some scruples. Those are not labels. That would be the result of you developing a conscience which you clearly lack.

And as you clearly demonstrate here, you are full of resentment at being looked down upon for being such a craven enabler of fascism. These foolish taunts that our disdain for you will fuel our comeuppance is typical MAGA BS when it is in fact merely another example of your inferiority complex and quest for vengeance at the wrongs of the world that never respected someone as repugnant as you.

You're a troll and a Nazi and nobody respects you. Deal with it

You're a great entertainer Clyde.

Thanks for the good times.

[Polk377]

All your posts are about communism coming to the USA, not China or Russia having it within their borders.

And, uh, who said anything about China or Russia? Not me. I'm not even sure what your comment is. That they are still a threat? That you consider them the true leaders of the world?

Honestly, this post was even more ranty and less clear than even all your others.

I'd think there are sane people who could consider those countries threats while not mistaking the government having a role in society as "SOCIALISM!!!!!!"

Whatever. Tired of all these half baked old political memes.

People don't understand that communism and socialism are both economic policies, not political policies. Also that for decades now, China has been transitioning to a blend of communist/capitalistic economy, which is what's fueled their boom

The opposite of democracy is not communism or socialism, it is authoritarianism. China is an authoritarian state, and so is Russia, but that isn't because they're communist (neither are socialist, which is a whole other can of worms that if you don't understand the above, it's certainly not worth my time to get into), as Germany in the 40s was authoritarian as well as capitalistic

Republicans love to conflate democracy with capitalism, but they're not intertwined, and neither are communism/socialism and authoritarianism. Democratic socialism is a thing, and countries like Denmark and Sweden practice Social Democracy (which is democracy with a capitalist economy but strong social safety nets), and that's what the more progressive Americans are pushing for

But that's too complex for some people, who can only see the world as "good" and "bad". Democracy good, socialism bad, therefore the two are opposites and the talking head on tv says these people want socialism so therefore they're bad.

Let’s see how against “socialism” they are when they get older and republicans are threatening to take their social security away

I will say Trumps done an amazing job branding against Democrats

You have people who really believe the world will
End if democrats get in office again and Trump is the only one who can save this country

Wrong again! https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/bidens-false-attacks-on-trumps-social-security-plan/

[Clyde_Style]

If Trump loses does the GOP go back to the old guard or is Trump now the blueprint where you get a troll who “owns the libs”

The GOP may try to appease both. I think that straddling the fence will lead to increasing failure and possible obsolescence.

If the GOP doesn't appease MAGA, their ability to win future elections is limited as those voters will either stay home or go to an indy, wild-card candidate

If the GOP doesn't try to keep old school, non-MAGA Republicans they will have little leverage left politically

So Trumpism put the GOP between a rock and a hard place. They tried to sabotage the non-white demographic shift happening in this country and they may have slowed it down temporarily, but the quest to maintain a white majority will ultimately fail

America will continue to become more of a melting pot and younger voters will bring their generally inclusive POV of diversity into the mainstream

So this may be the last gasp of the GOP as a national political machine. I really don't see how they can reboot it with the split Trumpism produced unless the Dems completely mess up this time and I don't think they will