Prospect Thread: James Wiseman

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Wiseman wants to go to the Hornets or Warriors so if Hornets want him, they will have to trade to 1

lol for what

the gap between wiseman and the rest of this board isn't that significant. we could take toppin at #3 and get away with it

Toppin is a power forward, same as Pj Washington.

Hornets need a center as the only one on their team is Cody Zeller and he is an expiring.

[bravor]

At worst, Okongwu says 'hello' (and there is something called free agency)... Toppin is not an option for anybody here, DY_Nasty was just pointing out that there is no star player (at all) worth giving up assets to move up in this draft.

And most of all, Hornets are not desperate to make a move. They dont care about luxury tax or about contending anytime soon.

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Wiseman wants to go to the Hornets or Warriors so if Hornets want him, they will have to trade to 1

Why? That’s assuming the Warriors would draft Wiseman at #2, and that’s far from a lock.

Hell, it’s no lock the Warriors even select at #2.

It’s just as possible another team trades up to #2 to select Edwards or Ball and then Wiseman is sitting there for us at #3.

Your logic of Charlotte HAVING to trade up to #1 is beyond flawed.


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[yosemiteben]

I don't think Windhorst knows what GSW is gonna do, which is obviously the big variable here.

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Wiseman wants to go to the Hornets or Warriors so if Hornets want him, they will have to trade to 1

Why? That’s assuming the Warriors would draft Wiseman at #2, and that’s far from a lock.

Hell, it’s no lock the Warriors even select at #2.

It’s just as possible another team trades up to #2 to select Edwards or Ball and then Wiseman is sitting there for us at #3.

Your logic of Charlotte HAVING to trade up to #1 is beyond flawed.


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I’m using Windhorst’s interview from yesterday which said Wiseman wont make it past pick 2 and Rick Bonnell, Hornets Beat Writer saying Hornets love Wiseman.

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You guys can listen to the interview yourself and judge it

[luciano-davidwesley]

We probably just take BPA at 3. I'd say there is almost 0% chance of us giving up a future first - protected or not- to move up in this draft.

I'm assuming that's what your angling for.

[driveandkick]

We probably just take BPA at 3. I'd say there is almost 0% chance of us giving up a future first - protected or not- to move up in this draft.

I'm assuming that's what your angling for.

If MJ really is totally in love with Wiseman like some of these reports suggest, I could see him yolo'ing it. But no way Mitch signs off on that, apparently we also like Okongwu so maybe we are setting him up as our Plan C. Wiseman-Edwards-Okongwu could be our big board.

[UnFadeable21]

We probably just take BPA at 3. I'd say there is almost 0% chance of us giving up a future first - protected or not- to move up in this draft.

I'm assuming that's what your angling for.

I actually want to stay at 1 and draft Lamelo Ball as I’m very high on his playmaking ability.

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You guys can listen to the interview yourself and judge it

In the past week they’ve also said they like Ball and Deni. They also apparently like Edwards and Toppin.

Your post said “Wiseman only wants to go to the Hornets or the Warriors”. It doesn’t matter what Wiseman wants.

Unless something has changed, it’s the teams that pick the prospect, not the prospect picking the team.


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You guys can listen to the interview yourself and judge it

In the past week they’ve also said they like Ball and Deni. They also apparently like Edwards and Toppin.

Your post said “Wiseman only wants to go to the Hornets or the Warriors”. It doesn’t matter what Wiseman wants.

Unless something has changed, it’s the teams that pick the prospect, not the prospect picking the team.

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Because Windhorst says in that interview, the only two teams Wiseman as been willing to workout for is the Warriors and Hornets.

[BigSlam]

You guys can listen to the interview yourself and judge it

In the past week they’ve also said they like Ball and Deni. They also apparently like Edwards and Toppin.

Your post said “Wiseman only wants to go to the Hornets or the Warriors”. It doesn’t matter what Wiseman wants.

Unless something has changed, it’s the teams that pick the prospect, not the prospect picking the team.

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Because Windhorst says in that interview, the only two teams Wiseman as been willing to workout for is the Warriors and Hornets.

So?

Players are drafted EVERY YEAR by teams who didn’t work them out.

Hell, I don’t think we’ve drafted a 1st round pick in the last 5 years or so that worked out for us.

And again, who cares who Wiseman works out for. The prospects done decide on the team who will draft them. It’s the other way around.


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[Braggins]

I want Wiseman, but you just can't give up a big haul for him imo.

Next years draft has Cade Cunningham and we need to try to be in the running for the top pick in that draft, which you can't do if you trade the pick without protection. Even if we aren't that bad next year, Wiseman is a few years away from helping us win, so its still going to be a pretty good pick and the draft is good beyond just Cade.

The 2022 draft is likely to be the double draft where high schoolers are able to enter again, so given that this draft is super weak and 2022 will have two strong classes entering at once, a pick at the tail end of the top 10 of that draft could easily be just as valuable, if not moreso, than a top 3 pick in this draft.

If there is some kind of internal battle going on, where MJ wants to trade the farm to move up a spot or two for Wiseman and Mitch wants to take a more conservative route and take BPA at 3 if they can't find a reasonable trade to move up, then its going to be fascinating to see what happens and what kind of stuff comes out after the fact about the process (think the aftermath of the Kaminski draft). I'm not actually convinced anything like this is actually going on inside the front office. I don't doubt they like Wiseman and might be willing to move up to get him, but I have serious doubts they are considering giving up unprotected or lightly protected 1sts, or some huge haul, to make it happen,. Maybe thats wishful thinking, but I'll guess we'll have to wait and see.

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In the past week they’ve also said they like Ball and Deni. They also apparently like Edwards and Toppin.

Your post said “Wiseman only wants to go to the Hornets or the Warriors”. It doesn’t matter what Wiseman wants.

Unless something has changed, it’s the teams that pick the prospect, not the prospect picking the team.

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Because Windhorst says in that interview, the only two teams Wiseman as been willing to workout for is the Warriors and Hornets.

So?

Players are drafted EVERY YEAR by teams who didn’t work them out.

Hell, I don’t think we’ve drafted a 1st round pick in the last 5 years or so that worked out for us.

And again, who cares who Wiseman works out for. The prospects done decide on the team who will draft them. It’s the other way around.


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Well you have a local reporter Bonnel who says Hornets love Wiseman and two national reporters Windhorst and O’Conner who say Hornets love Wiseman.

Add in the MN ABC reporter who posted this

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[driveandkick]

We probably just take BPA at 3. I'd say there is almost 0% chance of us giving up a future first - protected or not- to move up in this draft.

I'm assuming that's what your angling for.

I actually want to stay at 1 and draft Lamelo Ball as I’m very high on his playmaking ability.

You know ball.

[BigSlam]

Because Windhorst says in that interview, the only two teams Wiseman as been willing to workout for is the Warriors and Hornets.

So?

Players are drafted EVERY YEAR by teams who didn’t work them out.

Hell, I don’t think we’ve drafted a 1st round pick in the last 5 years or so that worked out for us.

And again, who cares who Wiseman works out for. The prospects done decide on the team who will draft them. It’s the other way around.


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Well you have a local reporter Bonnel who says Hornets love Wiseman and two national reporters Windhorst and O’Conner who say Hornets love Wiseman.

Add in the MN ABC reporter who posted this

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My Mum is more connected to the Charlotte front office than Bonnell - and she’s 75 years old, lives in Australia and has never watched an NBA game in her life.

MJ was physically present at Edwards work out this week.
Mitch has been in Europe scouting Deni.
According to some national reporters Charlotte will only draft over aged college stars so Toppin will be our pick.

You read I to things too much. No one knows anything - especially this year when the college players haven’t played for 8 months, the workout process and combine process is so different, teams are under additional financial strain, it’s a weak draft class and there is consensus top 5.

Heck, there isn’t even a consensus #1.

As for a Minnesota rag writer saying Charlotte is the obvious choice as a trade partner for them.....thanks tips!! Of course we are because that would benefit Minnesota the most.

It’s a crap draft and you landed the #1 pick. It’s the WORST position to be in.

It’s sucks for you.


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[UnFadeable21]

So?

Players are drafted EVERY YEAR by teams who didn’t work them out.

Hell, I don’t think we’ve drafted a 1st round pick in the last 5 years or so that worked out for us.

And again, who cares who Wiseman works out for. The prospects done decide on the team who will draft them. It’s the other way around.


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Well you have a local reporter Bonnel who says Hornets love Wiseman and two national reporters Windhorst and O’Conner who say Hornets love Wiseman.

Add in the MN ABC reporter who posted this

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My Mum is more connected to the Charlotte front office than Bonnell - and she’s 75 years old, lives in Australia and has never watched an NBA game in her life.

MJ was physically present at Edwards work out this week.
Mitch has been in Europe scouting Deni.
According to some national reporters Charlotte will only draft over aged college stars so Toppin will be our pick.

You read I to things too much. No one knows anything - especially this year when the college players haven’t played for 8 months, the workout process and combine process is so different, teams are under additional financial strain, it’s a weak draft class and there is consensus top 5.

Heck, there isn’t even a consensus #1.

As for a Minnesota rag writer saying Charlotte is the obvious choice as a trade partner for them.....thanks tips!! Of course we are because that would benefit Minnesota the most.

It’s a crap draft and you landed the #1 pick. It’s the WORST position to be in.

It’s sucks for you.


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I’m actually very happy with the Wolves situation. We got rid of the Wiggins contracts which was very similar to Nic Batum’s in play style, demeanor, and contract.

We also have two young all stars 24 years old, locked up in Towns and Russell.

And we have the number 1 pick in the draft. Everyone keeps saying it’s a weak draft yet in the weak Anthony Bennett Draft, there was a two time MVP in there in Giannis and a two time Defensive player of the year in Rudy Gobert.

There’s talent in every draft, you just have to be able to identify it.

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Wiseman wants to go to the Hornets or Warriors so if Hornets want him, they will have to trade to 1

lol for what

the gap between wiseman and the rest of this board isn't that significant. we could take toppin at #3 and get away with it

Toppin is a power forward, same as Pj Washington.

Hornets need a center as the only one on their team is Cody Zeller and he is an expiring.

No offense, but we don't need you coming over here telling us what our needs are or who Bonnell is or what he said. We've got that covered.

[MasterIchiro]

In my opinion, if Wolves fans are horny for future first round picks they should be probing the Knicks and Pistons board. Rebuilding teams typically need that first piece to be a franchise PG or prolific scoring wing. Even if the Hornets have Wiseman 1 they're not gonna pay close to what the Knicks or Pistons would for LaMelo. Not to mention our beat writer doesn't have team sources for this draft. He clearly cited the source of the Wiseman hype as 2 other top 10 teams and their hype is based on what they believe the Hornets will do. In other words, my good chap, they pulled it out of their ass. The Hornets are just like other teams, including the Wolves. We're not in the habit of telling other teams who we love and in what order. So we're not gonna feed our clickbait-happy beat writer intel that could compromise our leverage and exhaust assets unnecessarily. This is a business. We're not stupid. Now off to the Knicks and Pistons.

[DY_nasty]

Well you have a local reporter Bonnel who says Hornets love Wiseman and two national reporters Windhorst and O’Conner who say Hornets love Wiseman.

Add in the MN ABC reporter who posted this

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My Mum is more connected to the Charlotte front office than Bonnell - and she’s 75 years old, lives in Australia and has never watched an NBA game in her life.

MJ was physically present at Edwards work out this week.
Mitch has been in Europe scouting Deni.
According to some national reporters Charlotte will only draft over aged college stars so Toppin will be our pick.

You read I to things too much. No one knows anything - especially this year when the college players haven’t played for 8 months, the workout process and combine process is so different, teams are under additional financial strain, it’s a weak draft class and there is consensus top 5.

Heck, there isn’t even a consensus #1.

As for a Minnesota rag writer saying Charlotte is the obvious choice as a trade partner for them.....thanks tips!! Of course we are because that would benefit Minnesota the most.

It’s a crap draft and you landed the #1 pick. It’s the WORST position to be in.

It’s sucks for you.


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I’m actually very happy with the Wolves situation. We got rid of the Wiggins contracts which was very similar to Nic Batum’s in play style, demeanor, and contract.

We also have two young all stars 24 years old, locked up in Towns and Russell.

And we have the number 1 pick in the draft. Everyone keeps saying it’s a weak draft yet in the weak Anthony Bennett Draft, there was a two time MVP in there in Giannis and a two time Defensive player of the year in Rudy Gobert.

There’s talent in every draft, you just have to be able to identify it.

bonnell has been a shmuck since the bobcats before the bobcats were using racing stripes dude is purposefully against the grain just to stand out in charlotte