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Post#1601 » by Ruzious » Mon Nov 2, 2020 12:30 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Saddiq Bey would be fun to have on this team.

He'll be gone before 24 - reminds me of Middleton.
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Post#1602 » by Ruzious » Mon Nov 2, 2020 12:38 pm

Howard won't get drafted, so if he makes the Bucks roster after playing well in the G League, that's fine. He's not going to make it any other way. The problem with him isn't just that he's tiny; it's also that he's not really a point guard - he gets as many to's as assists. He also doesn't get as many steals as you'd expect from a small guard.
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Post#1603 » by Ruzious » Mon Nov 2, 2020 12:46 pm

RiotPunch wrote:Stewart is a great kid and hard worker by all accounts, but he's pretty bad. I personally would not draft him.

He's actually a very solid player at both ends and has the makings of a good jump shot. He's just not flashy at all. A slightly poor man's Favors that might eventually develop a 3 point shot.
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Post#1604 » by emunney » Mon Nov 2, 2020 2:08 pm

Imo the key with Howard is if he'll buy into role. He could be a mini Redick and have a huge impact offensively, and be hidden well enough to not upset that. Or he can insist on having the ball in his hands all the time and be a big star in Brussels.
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Post#1605 » by Matches Malone » Mon Nov 2, 2020 2:16 pm

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Matches Malone wrote:Saddiq Bey would be fun to have on this team.

He'll be gone before 24 - reminds me of Middleton.


Oh for sure he'll be gone. I'm just thinking in terms of trading up. Seems like a lot of targets that we've been linked to are ones we'd have to move up a bit for.

I didn't really get the Middleton vibe. Bey plays more aggressive on defense and plays with more physicality overall. Love his ability to score on all three levels with ease.
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Post#1606 » by emunney » Mon Nov 2, 2020 2:41 pm

He's like Jeff Green but a knockdown shooter with Villanova principles.
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Matches Malone wrote:Saddiq Bey would be fun to have on this team.

He'll be gone before 24 - reminds me of Middleton.


Oh for sure he'll be gone. I'm just thinking in terms of trading up. Seems like a lot of targets that we've been linked to are ones we'd have to move up a bit for.

I didn't really get the Middleton vibe. Bey plays more aggressive on defense and plays with more physicality overall. Love his ability to score on all three levels with ease.

In college, he's a strong guy who's more athletic than the competition. In the NBA, he's not going to be stronger, and he'll be less athletic. He's certainly not more capable than Midds. And we don't have the assets to trade up to get him.
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Post#1608 » by Ruzious » Mon Nov 2, 2020 3:40 pm

emunney wrote:He's like Jeff Green but a knockdown shooter with Villanova principles.

Jeff Green has been one of the softest defensive players in the NBA throughout his career - even though he actually played a lot of center last season. Green's been a better athlete than SBey.
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Post#1609 » by Ruzious » Mon Nov 2, 2020 3:58 pm

Devon Dotson is killing it at the combine. But can he make 3's?

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Post#1610 » by BucksFanSD » Mon Nov 2, 2020 4:11 pm

Ruzious wrote:Devon Dotson is killing it at the combine. But can he make 3's?

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Very good trajectory at Kansas and highly productive last year. I've been keeping my eye on him. I think his game is NBA ready where he can focus on improving his 3 point shot, which is currently average for college.

I'd much rather have him than Riller, Flynn, or Jones.
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Post#1611 » by LuessiT » Mon Nov 2, 2020 5:15 pm

emunney wrote:Imo the key with Howard is if he'll buy into role. He could be a mini Redick and have a huge impact offensively, and be hidden well enough to not upset that. Or he can insist on having the ball in his hands all the time and be a big star in Brussels.


I'm off the opinion that if you're not giving him the ball you're doing something wrong. I don't see the mini Redick you're describing. He's only valueable as a high volume scorer.
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Post#1612 » by BroncoBuck » Mon Nov 2, 2020 5:53 pm

I’d try and make Kaleb Wesson a priority undrafted signee. Maybe buy a late second (teams will definitely be selling them this year due to revenue loss) to grab him.

I don’t think he’s ever going to be a capable starter, but I like him as a role player off the bench. Gorgui Dieng on a budget.

Edit-Dammit, of course now I see he did really well at the combine. Someone is going to take him in the second for sure. Need to get a 2nd to take him.
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Post#1613 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Nov 2, 2020 5:54 pm

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Wonka wrote:The more and more I read, the more it seems Terry is going to be the pick. I don’t know much about his game outside of a few YouTube videos and some Ringer content. Can someone give me a full view of who he is as a player?


Suns are supposedly considering him at #10 pretty seriously. I don't think he gets near our pick.


Oh really? I haven’t heard much regarding his stock rising to a lottery level pick. Good on him though. Suns definitely need to take some chances going forward
Yeah they've interviewed him and supposedly have interest. Him and Kira Lewis seem like two guys they like assuming Haliburton doesn't fall to 10.

Now should be noted since James Jones took over as GM they are one of the least leaky front offices so most of the speculation is just putting two and two together from who they've talked to vs a real rumor.

Take it with a grain of salt but a poster who has had some legit sources in the past said the suns are considering a move for Chris Paul with oubre and Rubio being the pieces going out.
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Post#1614 » by BroncoBuck » Mon Nov 2, 2020 6:11 pm

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Post#1615 » by tski1972 » Mon Nov 2, 2020 6:15 pm

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Suns are supposedly considering him at #10 pretty seriously. I don't think he gets near our pick.


Oh really? I haven’t heard much regarding his stock rising to a lottery level pick. Good on him though. Suns definitely need to take some chances going forward
Yeah they've interviewed him and supposedly have interest. Him and Kira Lewis seem like two guys they like assuming Haliburton doesn't fall to 10.

Now should be noted since James Jones took over as GM they are one of the least leaky front offices so most of the speculation is just putting two and two together from who they've talked to vs a real rumor.

Take it with a grain of salt but a poster who has had some legit sources in the past said the suns are considering a move for Chris Paul with oubre and Rubio being the pieces going out.
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Post#1616 » by Ill-yasova » Mon Nov 2, 2020 6:33 pm

Ruzious wrote:Howard won't get drafted, so if he makes the Bucks roster after playing well in the G League, that's fine. He's not going to make it any other way. The problem with him isn't just that he's tiny; it's also that he's not really a point guard - he gets as many to's as assists. He also doesn't get as many steals as you'd expect from a small guard.

I feel like Billy Beane in the scene in Money Ball where the scouts keep bringing up all of the shortcomings of the players he brings in and he just responds “But he gets on base” over and over again.

He shot 42% on high volume (8 attempts a game) and he has no trouble making these shot while contested on a pull-up, or coming off of a screen. He also shot over 8 free throws a game too at an 85% clip. I’m not asking him to be the starting PG, I’m just asking him to be a walking bucket for 15-17 mins a game off the bench. People spend so much time arguing about what he can’t do, but what he can do is the most valuable thing we absolutely need. Microwave scoring and the ability to create his own shots from all three levels (but especially from 3).
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Post#1617 » by Ruzious » Mon Nov 2, 2020 6:37 pm

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Ruzious wrote:Howard won't get drafted, so if he makes the Bucks roster after playing well in the G League, that's fine. He's not going to make it any other way. The problem with him isn't just that he's tiny; it's also that he's not really a point guard - he gets as many to's as assists. He also doesn't get as many steals as you'd expect from a small guard.

I feel like Billy Beane in the scene in Money Ball where the scouts keep bringing up all of the shortcomings of the players he brings in and he just responds “But he gets on base” over and over again.

He shot 42% on high volume (8 attempts a game) and he has no trouble making these shot while contested on a pull-up, or coming off of a screen. He also shot over 8 free throws a game too at an 85% clip. I’m not asking him to be the starting PG, I’m just asking him to be a walking bucket for 15-17 mins a game off the bench. People spend so much time arguing about what he can’t do, but what he can do is the most valuable thing we absolutely need. Microwave scoring and the ability to create his own shots from all three levels (but especially from 3).

Did Billy Beane explain that 5'11 1 trick pony PG's face better defenders in the NBA who will likely shut him down?
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Post#1618 » by neiLz » Mon Nov 2, 2020 7:08 pm

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Ruzious wrote:Howard won't get drafted, so if he makes the Bucks roster after playing well in the G League, that's fine. He's not going to make it any other way. The problem with him isn't just that he's tiny; it's also that he's not really a point guard - he gets as many to's as assists. He also doesn't get as many steals as you'd expect from a small guard.

I feel like Billy Beane in the scene in Money Ball where the scouts keep bringing up all of the shortcomings of the players he brings in and he just responds “But he gets on base” over and over again.

He shot 42% on high volume (8 attempts a game) and he has no trouble making these shot while contested on a pull-up, or coming off of a screen. He also shot over 8 free throws a game too at an 85% clip. I’m not asking him to be the starting PG, I’m just asking him to be a walking bucket for 15-17 mins a game off the bench. People spend so much time arguing about what he can’t do, but what he can do is the most valuable thing we absolutely need. Microwave scoring and the ability to create his own shots from all three levels (but especially from 3).

I like Howard. I don't think he gets drafted but I hope the bucks sign him. Wojo is as imcompetant as they come from a coaching perspective. Howard can develop for sure and could be what the bucks need as an offensive force that can shoot (if he develops).
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Post#1619 » by Ill-yasova » Mon Nov 2, 2020 7:24 pm

Ruzious wrote:
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Ruzious wrote:Howard won't get drafted, so if he makes the Bucks roster after playing well in the G League, that's fine. He's not going to make it any other way. The problem with him isn't just that he's tiny; it's also that he's not really a point guard - he gets as many to's as assists. He also doesn't get as many steals as you'd expect from a small guard.

I feel like Billy Beane in the scene in Money Ball where the scouts keep bringing up all of the shortcomings of the players he brings in and he just responds “But he gets on base” over and over again.

He shot 42% on high volume (8 attempts a game) and he has no trouble making these shot while contested on a pull-up, or coming off of a screen. He also shot over 8 free throws a game too at an 85% clip. I’m not asking him to be the starting PG, I’m just asking him to be a walking bucket for 15-17 mins a game off the bench. People spend so much time arguing about what he can’t do, but what he can do is the most valuable thing we absolutely need. Microwave scoring and the ability to create his own shots from all three levels (but especially from 3).

Did Billy Beane explain that 5'11 1 trick pony PG's face better defenders in the NBA who will likely shut him down?

If that’s what you think I get it, but I respectfully disagree. I don’t see anything about that pull-up or shooting off of the screen that wouldn’t translate to the pro game. That said, I could be completely wrong too, but if he was two inches taller he’d probably be a late lottery pick. I’d roll the dice that his scoring translates.
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Post#1620 » by emunney » Mon Nov 2, 2020 7:28 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Ill-yasova wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Howard won't get drafted, so if he makes the Bucks roster after playing well in the G League, that's fine. He's not going to make it any other way. The problem with him isn't just that he's tiny; it's also that he's not really a point guard - he gets as many to's as assists. He also doesn't get as many steals as you'd expect from a small guard.

I feel like Billy Beane in the scene in Money Ball where the scouts keep bringing up all of the shortcomings of the players he brings in and he just responds “But he gets on base” over and over again.

He shot 42% on high volume (8 attempts a game) and he has no trouble making these shot while contested on a pull-up, or coming off of a screen. He also shot over 8 free throws a game too at an 85% clip. I’m not asking him to be the starting PG, I’m just asking him to be a walking bucket for 15-17 mins a game off the bench. People spend so much time arguing about what he can’t do, but what he can do is the most valuable thing we absolutely need. Microwave scoring and the ability to create his own shots from all three levels (but especially from 3).

Did Billy Beane explain that 5'11 1 trick pony PG's face better defenders in the NBA who will likely shut him down?


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