2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still

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[VirginiaKnickFan]

So this is where we stand in various battlegrounds Trump is ahead of where he was 2016 when he won these states. Obviously doesn't mean he will definitely win these again but with the Democrat covid fear porn it's unlikely Biden voters brave a "certain" death on old Joe's behalf. So it's looking really good.

You're discounting the early mail-in voter for the very reason so they don't have to worry about getting sick while voting in person.

[Kampuchea]

So this is where we stand in various battlegrounds Trump is ahead of where he was 2016 when he won these states. Obviously doesn't mean he will definitely win these again but with the Democrat covid fear porn it's unlikely Biden voters brave a "certain" death on old Joe's behalf. So it's looking really good.

Based on these it is now Trump who is favored?

[Kampuchea]

Current betting odds:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

Betting Odds.........Nov 2nd
Joe Biden (D).......64.0
Donald Trump (R)..35.0

As of today, the odds have moved quite a bit. Not liking this

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

Betting Odds.........Nov 3rd
Joe Biden (D).......60.4
Donald Trump (R)..38.6

[aq_ua]

Current betting odds:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

Betting Odds.........Nov 2nd
Joe Biden (D).......64.0
Donald Trump (R)..35.0

As of today, the odds have moved quite a bit. Not liking this

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

Betting Odds.........Nov 3rd
Joe Biden (D).......60.4
Donald Trump (R)..38.6

If it makes you feel better, gamblers have no better insight than polls, but are more likely to shift towards 50:50 odds because of hedges. Also:

“The markets in the last 48 hours have become a bit more convinced of a Biden victory without the messy risk of weeks of uncertainty and turmoil,” said Derek Halpenny, head of research at MUFG.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-markets/wall-street-headed-higher-as-investors-bet-on-biden-win-idUSKBN27J028?il=0

[Pointgod]

Current betting odds:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

Betting Odds.........Nov 2nd
Joe Biden (D).......64.0
Donald Trump (R)..35.0

As of today, the odds have moved quite a bit. Not liking this

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

Betting Odds.........Nov 3rd
Joe Biden (D).......60.4
Donald Trump (R)..38.6

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[rammagen]

Current betting odds:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

Betting Odds.........Nov 2nd
Joe Biden (D).......64.0
Donald Trump (R)..35.0

As of today, the odds have moved quite a bit. Not liking this

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

Betting Odds.........Nov 3rd
Joe Biden (D).......60.4
Donald Trump (R)..38.6

if this helps they 10 out of 100 times for trump wins 89 out of 100 Biden wins. IDK about the missing 1 chance
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

[Pointgod]

Trump is a malicious idiot who wouldn't understand federalism and state rights if it bit him on the ass. He has clearly demonstrated the only state's whose rights he respects are the ones run by people who suck him off. If you oppose him in any way you can kiss your state's rights away. Trump has loudly announced multiple times that he is only the president of the red states and everyone else can go F themselves. He's not a president. He's a gang leader.

You are absolutely right! When the Mayor of of Seattle completely lost control of his city and CHAZ took over city property, Trump rushed in with the military within hours and broke it up. Oh wait, noooo he didn't do that......

He has stayed out of state affairs on numerus accounts but he has the right to tell them when they are doing a terrible job. Which just so happens to be a lot of these Democrat run cities and states.

What is amazing is that he has not stayed out of state affairs Portland ring a bell? Where federal agents were detaining people illegally? they did not identify themselves as agent no badges or Miranda rights just detaining people. The he takes credit for when Govs call in troops. You can't have it both ways

Or lets go onto trump supporters themselves who feel empowered to stop buses and cars on highways? that is why people call trump Authoritarian.

The way he treats the media is another reason very hitler esq. To be perfectly clear the Washington Post, NY times, CNN, Chicago Tribune, NBA, ABC are not fake news. The Washington post and the times are Pulitzer winning publications and because they are critical of trump and his record, morons believe these are now fake but trust the ny post?

The lies, the hate, the 230k covid deaths that could have been preventable tell those people who died how great trump is but do not waste your time telling me you are supporting anything that man has done for any reason because much like Adam Gase they both suck at their jobs.. He has made a mockery and a shame out of the Oval office, his comments on the election and how votes are counted are moronic and at this point only idiots would believe him. Any Argument you make can be countered and very easily with facts, qanon crap

Tax breaks that has proven it only favors the rich, the deficit, the un-needed trade wars to get a better deal that he never got, the wall with Mexico he maybe has less then 100 new miles of wall, and who is paying for that again?

Do Not Try To Reason With Trump Supporters. They are illogical and don’t live in the same world.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Current betting odds:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

Betting Odds.........Nov 2nd
Joe Biden (D).......64.0
Donald Trump (R)..35.0

As of today, the odds have moved quite a bit. Not liking this

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

Betting Odds.........Nov 3rd
Joe Biden (D).......60.4
Donald Trump (R)..38.6

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I think this will be a much closer race than the polls forecast, they almost always are.

[rammagen]

So this is where we stand in various battlegrounds Trump is ahead of where he was 2016 when he won these states. Obviously doesn't mean he will definitely win these again but with the Democrat covid fear porn it's unlikely Biden voters brave a "certain" death on old Joe's behalf. So it's looking really good.

You're discounting the early mail-in voter for the very reason so they don't have to worry about getting sick while voting in person.

LOL calling one guy old joe and the other would be fat lazy lying trump. Please correct me f the facts dont back up my statement.
https://www.salon.com/2020/10/22/president-trumps-body-tics-and-forward-leaning-posture-raise-concerns-expert_partner/

[E-Balla]

Anyone that think Trump has no chance doesn't know America. Trump and the Republican Party aren't playing fair and they never have so he's got at least a 20% shot as staying president no matter what.

No one has said that Trump has no chance. If that was the case you wouldn’t have record early voting numbers and projected record votes. There’s also a possibility that Trump also wins legitimately by turning out a record number of his voters. The thing working against him is that there’s already been 100 million early votes cast, dominated by Democrats and Independents, there not even taking into consideration who they voted for. The cap on the total votes seems to be 150 million so that means that Trump would have to get pretty high share of the in day votes, most likely over 60% or even higher. Trump is not some magicians and sometimes the numbers just speak for themselves, you can’t out will math.

And sure Republicans will try to cheat to steal the election but in reality they can only do that if it’s close. Hope for a blow out.

Nah this is BS. First off there's battleground states where it'll be close 100% anyway. Places like GA, TX, FL, NC. The idea of it needing to be close is forgetting no matter what the battleground states are barely leaning Biden. He's outside of a 3% margin of error (unlike Hillary) but not a blowout margin of error. Secondly Trump has openly said he's calling the election before all votes are counted and we know a lot of states count mail in ballots last so those won't be tallied forever. With 50% of Democratic voters nationwide voting in person vs 75% of Republican voters Trump will probably lead the vote totals for most of the night.

When Trump calls GA with a 48-47 lead with 20% of precincts reported and Kemp (who stole his own office) decides to give the GA electoral vote to Trump you'll see.

Blowing him out doesn't matter and neither do those early votes. Only 35 million of those early votes were made in person, the rest are mail in and we have so much proof of Republicans flat out pretending they don't matter. Van Jones basically broke down his path to win perfectly and he seems to be the only person in mainstream media taking this seriously:

Watch on YouTube

[BKlutch]

Trump is a malicious idiot who wouldn't understand federalism and state rights if it bit him on the ass. He has clearly demonstrated the only state's whose rights he respects are the ones run by people who suck him off. If you oppose him in any way you can kiss your state's rights away. Trump has loudly announced multiple times that he is only the president of the red states and everyone else can go F themselves. He's not a president. He's a gang leader.

You are absolutely right! When the Mayor of of Seattle completely lost control of his city and CHAZ took over city property, Trump rushed in with the military within hours and broke it up. Oh wait, noooo he didn't do that......

He has stayed out of state affairs on numerus accounts but he has the right to tell them when they are doing a terrible job. Which just so happens to be a lot of these Democrat run cities and states.

What is amazing is that he has not stayed out of state affairs Portland ring a bell? Where federal agents were detaining people illegally? they did not identify themselves as agent no badges or Miranda rights just detaining people. The he takes credit for when Govs call in troops. You can't have it both ways

Or lets go onto trump supporters themselves who feel empowered to stop buses and cars on highways? that is why people call trump Authoritarian.

The way he treats the media is another reason very hitler esq. To be perfectly clear the Washington Post, NY times, CNN, Chicago Tribune, NBA, ABC are not fake news. The Washington post and the times are Pulitzer winning publications and because they are critical of trump and his record, morons believe these are now fake but trust the ny post?

The lies, the hate, the 230k covid deaths that could have been preventable tell those people who died how great trump is but do not waste your time telling me you are supporting anything that man has done for any reason because much like Adam Gase they both suck at their jobs.. He has made a mockery and a shame out of the Oval office, his comments on the election and how votes are counted are moronic and at this point only idiots would believe him. Any Argument you make can be countered and very easily with facts, qanon crap

Tax breaks that has proven it only favors the rich, the deficit, the un-needed trade wars to get a better deal that he never got, the wall with Mexico he maybe has less then 100 new miles of wall, and who is paying for that again?

I believe the intent was to create trouble he could blame on progressives, BLM, antifa (?!), and others. But it's possible he just enjoyed hurting people there, or tried to scare people into backing down from exercising their legitimate right to free speech. Otherwise, if there were a few bad apples, standard procedure would have dealt with them and created far less damage.

He probably did not expect that the main reaction would be for people to become angrier at him.

[E-Balla]

Current betting odds:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

Betting Odds.........Nov 2nd
Joe Biden (D).......64.0
Donald Trump (R)..35.0

As of today, the odds have moved quite a bit. Not liking this

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

Betting Odds.........Nov 3rd
Joe Biden (D).......60.4
Donald Trump (R)..38.6

if this helps they 10 out of 100 times for trump wins 89 out of 100 Biden wins. IDK about the missing 1 chance
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

And that doesn't take shenanigans into account.

Also extended early voting periods is clearly a success. People would 100% vote if they had more time to or it was easier to. Estimates are saying we'll have 20 million more votes this year than in 2016.

[rammagen]

You are absolutely right! When the Mayor of of Seattle completely lost control of his city and CHAZ took over city property, Trump rushed in with the military within hours and broke it up. Oh wait, noooo he didn't do that......

He has stayed out of state affairs on numerus accounts but he has the right to tell them when they are doing a terrible job. Which just so happens to be a lot of these Democrat run cities and states.

What is amazing is that he has not stayed out of state affairs Portland ring a bell? Where federal agents were detaining people illegally? they did not identify themselves as agent no badges or Miranda rights just detaining people. The he takes credit for when Govs call in troops. You can't have it both ways

Or lets go onto trump supporters themselves who feel empowered to stop buses and cars on highways? that is why people call trump Authoritarian.

The way he treats the media is another reason very hitler esq. To be perfectly clear the Washington Post, NY times, CNN, Chicago Tribune, NBA, ABC are not fake news. The Washington post and the times are Pulitzer winning publications and because they are critical of trump and his record, morons believe these are now fake but trust the ny post?

The lies, the hate, the 230k covid deaths that could have been preventable tell those people who died how great trump is but do not waste your time telling me you are supporting anything that man has done for any reason because much like Adam Gase they both suck at their jobs.. He has made a mockery and a shame out of the Oval office, his comments on the election and how votes are counted are moronic and at this point only idiots would believe him. Any Argument you make can be countered and very easily with facts, qanon crap

Tax breaks that has proven it only favors the rich, the deficit, the un-needed trade wars to get a better deal that he never got, the wall with Mexico he maybe has less then 100 new miles of wall, and who is paying for that again?

Do Not Try To Reason With Trump Supporters. They are illogical and don’t live in the same world.

My issue is people can not see or understand basic facts. Let me be clear this has nothing to do with liberal versus democrat. I served in the Army and believe I get along with everyone, as Puerto Rican I define my race as mixed I have African, European and Native American dna.

But I base my beliefs on facts first, proven facts, not on lies or qanon theories you or I can spread just as easily as posting on a board under a fake name.
What has this county become when morons base their beliefs on lies, unproven facts and partially at best research, case in point tax breaks the middle and lower class taxes will go up based on the current laws. Meanwhile wants to tax the upper percent that makes over 400 k a yr. IS that a bad thing? I dont think so. Me and my wife make a comfortable living drive new cars nothing overly fancy (I have 2 yr old Jag she ha a 2 yr old Mazda). Our success in life has nothing to do with trump and his laws. it has to do because we save and work and have been blessed with decent jobs. But we moved when my career path was limited in South Florida to Ga and I doubled my salary in 2 yrs. Again nothing to do with trump but more of the hard work and sacrifice.

Why do trump supporters feel empowered to get things without the sacrifice (factory workers for example the plant closed because it is cheaper to make something elsewhere. Retrain your skills or move to where the jobs are I did , my parents did and most of family has)or by threatening people to get their way9 Texas bus example)? I makes me very sad for the future of this country. I believe before anyone is allowed to vote they should take a test not on intelligence but on critical thinking and research skills. It seems to me most trump supporters lack those 2 vital skills

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[rammagen]

this is a nice thought
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/senate/
dems are favored to win the senate

[BallSacBounce]

So this is where we stand in various battlegrounds Trump is ahead of where he was 2016 when he won these states. Obviously doesn't mean he will definitely win these again but with the Democrat covid fear porn it's unlikely Biden voters brave a "certain" death on old Joe's behalf. So it's looking really good.

You're discounting the early mail-in voter for the very reason so they don't have to worry about getting sick while voting in person.

Those numbers are all-inclusive. Vote By Mail and Early Voting.

[Pointgod]

Anyone that think Trump has no chance doesn't know America. Trump and the Republican Party aren't playing fair and they never have so he's got at least a 20% shot as staying president no matter what.

No one has said that Trump has no chance. If that was the case you wouldn’t have record early voting numbers and projected record votes. There’s also a possibility that Trump also wins legitimately by turning out a record number of his voters. The thing working against him is that there’s already been 100 million early votes cast, dominated by Democrats and Independents, there not even taking into consideration who they voted for. The cap on the total votes seems to be 150 million so that means that Trump would have to get pretty high share of the in day votes, most likely over 60% or even higher. Trump is not some magicians and sometimes the numbers just speak for themselves, you can’t out will math.

And sure Republicans will try to cheat to steal the election but in reality they can only do that if it’s close. Hope for a blow out.

Nah this is BS. First off there's battleground states where it'll be close 100% anyway. Places like GA, TX, FL, NC. The idea of it needing to be close is forgetting no matter what the battleground states are barely leaning Biden. He's outside of a 3% margin of error (unlike Hillary) but not a blowout margin of error. Secondly Trump has openly said he's calling the election before all votes are counted and we know a lot of states count mail in ballots last so those won't be tallied forever. With 50% of Democratic voters nationwide voting in person vs 75% of Republican voters Trump will probably lead the vote totals for most of the night.

When Trump calls GA with a 48-47 lead with 20% of precincts reported and Kemp (who stole his own office) decides to give the GA electoral vote to Trump you'll see.

Blowing him out doesn't matter and neither do those early votes. Only 35 million of those early votes were made in person, the rest are mail in and we have so much proof of Republicans flat out pretending they don't matter. Van Jones basically broke down his path to win perfectly and he seems to be the only person in mainstream media taking this seriously:

Watch on YouTube

Stop doing the typical Democrat freak out over this. Look if you’re that confident Trump is going to steal the election then go place a bet on it. I repeat only Secretaries of State can call elections. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, North Carolina, Michigan all have Democratic Secretaries of State. Sure Florida, Texas, Georgia could call it early but Trump won those last time so it really doesn’t matter and they would get a flood of law suits that they will lose and would actually prevent them from certifying the votes. Remember you can’t win the election until you’re at 270 or over. He literally has to win 3 of the 5 states I mentioned above to win the Presidency. Your doomsday scenario only comes into play if let’s say everything hinges on Florida, Texas or Georgia. Nothing you’re posting is realistic

[BKlutch]

Current betting odds:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

Betting Odds.........Nov 2nd
Joe Biden (D).......64.0
Donald Trump (R)..35.0

As of today, the odds have moved quite a bit. Not liking this

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

Betting Odds.........Nov 3rd
Joe Biden (D).......60.4
Donald Trump (R)..38.6

if this helps they 10 out of 100 times for trump wins 89 out of 100 Biden wins. IDK about the missing 1 chance
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

FiveThirtyEight says the missing 1 chance is for the election to end in a tie that goes go the House to be resolved.

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Trump wins again!

DON THE MONEY Mystery Brit gambler bets $5MILLION on Donald Trump election victory in the ‘largest political wager ever made’

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13090267/mystery-brit-gambler-bets-5million-trump-election-victory/