Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[Prokorov]

If we want to win a championship we need to be worried about the Lakers.

if the lakers play big against us they will lose in 4.

kyrie/KD cant pnr hunt a switch on to a big and then its bbq chicken.

The heat had 0 size and no one in the same universe offensively 1 on 1 as KD/Kyrie.

Jarrett allen is not the swing player in an NBA finals. if we need a big body, go get baynes or kyle o'quinn. cheap alternatives no one is pushing aroud

[kamaze]

The team has to get to the finals first beating Toronto, Miami and Boston won't be easy.

[DarkXaero]

I still think our version of Humphries, Brooks and Picks (HBAP) should be DAPPer. Dinwiddie, Allen, Prince and Picks.

Dinwiddie is very expendable. 1 more year and sure to be UFA after he opts out. He may want his own team in his prime before it's too late. Allen will be a RFA but he may push to move if Jordan is still starting or taking his minutes and we will be paying major taxes on any contract he gets. Prince is great filler as he's a short two year medium sized deal. Picks can be 1sts and 2nds.

Gordon and T.Ross
For
Dinwiddie, Allen, Prince, #19, 2 2nds

Irving l LeVert l TJ or Chiozza l J.Martin²
Harris l Ross l J.Crawford?
Gordon l TLC l Musa
Durant l AG l Kurucs
Jordan l MLE l Claxton

We'd have depth for days

Guys who can play..

PG
Irving, LeVert, we probably keep 1 of Tyler Johnson or Chiozza.

SG
Harris, LeVert, T.Ross, TLC, Musa, maybe Jamal Crawford if we sign him.

SF
Harris, KD, Gordon, TLC, Musa, LeVert, T.Ross

PF
KD, AG, Kurucs, Claxton, hell Harris and TLC played some PF in the bubble.

C
Jordan, KD, Claxton, Kurucs and I'm sure we'd sign a veteran back up lile Baynes, Plumlee, Millsap, etc.

No offense but that's an awful trade, not much different from the incredibly lopsided trades I've seen on T&T board. We're giving up way too much for what we're getting there. Dinwiddie and Allen are the two best players in that trade, and we're giving them a 1st on top of it, on top of two 2nds. That is overpay for Jrue Holiday, let alone Aaron Gordon and Terrence Ross, two barely above average rotation players. I don't care that Dinwiddie is an expiring contract, only 1 year of him is still potentially incredibly valuable to us, in terms of how he can help a contender.

It is truly an awful trade... just for the magic.

They give up ross and gordon for a rental of 2 role players and a bunch of non-lotto picks including #19 in a terrible draft and take on princes contrace.

what exactly about this deal helps them?

This take is not even worth addressing.

[Prokorov]

No offense but that's an awful trade, not much different from the incredibly lopsided trades I've seen on T&T board. We're giving up way too much for what we're getting there. Dinwiddie and Allen are the two best players in that trade, and we're giving them a 1st on top of it, on top of two 2nds. That is overpay for Jrue Holiday, let alone Aaron Gordon and Terrence Ross, two barely above average rotation players. I don't care that Dinwiddie is an expiring contract, only 1 year of him is still potentially incredibly valuable to us, in terms of how he can help a contender.

It is truly an awful trade... just for the magic.

They give up ross and gordon for a rental of 2 role players and a bunch of non-lotto picks including #19 in a terrible draft and take on princes contrace.

what exactly about this deal helps them?

This take is not even worth addressing.

Because you have nothing to justify otherwise.

1) Ross and Gordon are both on solid contracts with multiple years remaining (Ross 3/36; Gordon 2/34). Dinwiddie and Allen are both pending free agents after this season and would be 1 year rentals for a Magic team who at best steals an 8 seed. Why give up 2 players in there prime, on solid contracts for 2 rentals you could attempt to sign outright after the season?

2) Magic would be selling cap space. taking 2 years of prince at 23 million total for #19 and seconds. this is an even trade off. its not some additional value to Orlando that helps tip the scale on dealing 2 in-prime contracted players for 2 rentals

3) The Magic have Vucevic and Bamba signed for multiple years and control over isaac. Allen is not an immediate or future need for them. While Dinwiddie is a need for them, again its a rental on a team nowhere close to contention.

Gordon and Ross are outstanding role players who can start for a playoff team whom any playoff team would love to have. We are going to have to give them more then 2 rentals and paying them to take bad salary to pry those 2 away.

Our assets are being drastically over rated here. Traditional centers who dont shoot 3s are not very coveted and players viewed as 1 year rentals are not going to get more then 75% of their value back in a deal. #19 is a low value asset. picks in the 18-24 range can be bought for cash in this draft.

The value in this trade is light for orlando given contract situation of nets players and even if it were closer to even this deal is an awful fit for the magic.

[MrDollarBills]

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Well, that's another roster spot opening up.

[MrDollarBills]

The Ringer has us taking a PG at #19, Tyrell Terry from Stanford. The kid is a pretty good shooter.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/#mock

[Claud]

The Fro is good starting C for most teams in the league and is barely 22.

DJ is past his prime although he can still have nights where he looks close to his old self but he is 32. Better suited 20-25mpg.

Allen has improved his passing, strength, rebounding, etc. He's always been a good screener, rim protector, finisher.

There's still a lot of room to grow... I expect we'll pay him to stay. Even Nash was saying how Important he was.

I expect Harris + Allen will be paid by Tsai. It makes sense structuarally. However, Dinwiddie is a toss up.

[MGrand15]

Unless Claxton is ready for a big role next year, I'd be pretty worried about giving up Allen. DJ was better than I expected last year but he will get played off the floor against strong PNR teams. We need to be ready for that and option 1 can't be Durant at the 5.

[MrDollarBills]

The Fro is good starting C for most teams in the league and is barely 22.

DJ is past his prime although he can still have nights where he looks close to his old self but he is 32. Better suited 20-25mpg.

Allen has improved his passing, strength, rebounding, etc. He's always been a good screener, rim protector, finisher.

There's still a lot of room to grow... I expect we'll pay him to stay. Even Nash was saying how Important he was.

I expect Harris + Allen will be paid by Tsai. It makes sense structuarally. However, Dinwiddie is a toss up.

Yeah I expect Spencer to either be traded or to leave in free agency, Harris and Allen are way more vital pieces long term.

[Prokorov]

Unless Claxton is ready for a big role next year, I'd be pretty worried about giving up Allen. DJ was better than I expected last year but he will get played off the floor against strong PNR teams. We need to be ready for that and option 1 can't be Durant at the 5.

guys like allen are not tough to find relative to other positions/bigs who shoot. i can absolutely see moving allen in a deal and signing Aaron Baynes and going Jordan/Baynes for 1-2 years and trying to draft the next allen.

[TheNetsFan]

The Fro is good starting C for most teams in the league and is barely 22.

DJ is past his prime although he can still have nights where he looks close to his old self but he is 32. Better suited 20-25mpg.

Allen has improved his passing, strength, rebounding, etc. He's always been a good screener, rim protector, finisher.

There's still a lot of room to grow... I expect we'll pay him to stay. Even Nash was saying how Important he was.

I expect Harris + Allen will be paid by Tsai. It makes sense structuarally. However, Dinwiddie is a toss up.

Yeah I expect Spencer to either be traded or to leave in free agency, Harris and Allen are way more vital pieces long term.

For what it's worth, in Windrem's weekly offseason report, he reported that Dinwiddie believes he may be moved.

[MGrand15]

Unless Claxton is ready for a big role next year, I'd be pretty worried about giving up Allen. DJ was better than I expected last year but he will get played off the floor against strong PNR teams. We need to be ready for that and option 1 can't be Durant at the 5.

guys like allen are not tough to find relative to other positions/bigs who shoot. i can absolutely see moving allen in a deal and signing Aaron Baynes and going Jordan/Baynes for 1-2 years and trying to draft the next allen.

Baynes would be great but I'm not sure he's quick enough to go up on PNRs and defend the perimeter. His shooting and toughness would be enough to make it worth it though.

Those guys are easy-ish to find but there's no guarantee you find them. That's all I'm saying. And its an important position defensively. Houston felt the same way when they traded Capela. We could replace him with a minimum guy or a simple trade for a solid backup. Instead were forced to go all in on small ball.

[CalamityX12]

Gimme that Bey!

[MrDollarBills]

The Fro is good starting C for most teams in the league and is barely 22.

DJ is past his prime although he can still have nights where he looks close to his old self but he is 32. Better suited 20-25mpg.

Allen has improved his passing, strength, rebounding, etc. He's always been a good screener, rim protector, finisher.

There's still a lot of room to grow... I expect we'll pay him to stay. Even Nash was saying how Important he was.

I expect Harris + Allen will be paid by Tsai. It makes sense structuarally. However, Dinwiddie is a toss up.

Yeah I expect Spencer to either be traded or to leave in free agency, Harris and Allen are way more vital pieces long term.

For what it's worth, in Windrem's weekly offseason report, he reported that Dinwiddie believes he may be moved.

Dinwiddie has been signaling this for months. the dude isn't stupid.

Personally, I keep him as Kyrie insurance at least for this season. But I understand if the Nets don't want to lose him for nothing.

[MrDollarBills]

Unless Claxton is ready for a big role next year, I'd be pretty worried about giving up Allen. DJ was better than I expected last year but he will get played off the floor against strong PNR teams. We need to be ready for that and option 1 can't be Durant at the 5.

guys like allen are not tough to find relative to other positions/bigs who shoot. i can absolutely see moving allen in a deal and signing Aaron Baynes and going Jordan/Baynes for 1-2 years and trying to draft the next allen.

Baynes would be great but I'm not sure he's quick enough to go up on PNRs and defend the perimeter. His shooting and toughness would be enough to make it worth it though.

Those guys are easy-ish to find but there's no guarantee you find them. That's all I'm saying. And its an important position defensively. Houston felt the same way when they traded Capela. We could replace him with a minimum guy or a simple trade for a solid backup. Instead were forced to go all in on small ball.

and it blew up in their faces.

I'm not to keen on riding the DeAndre Jordan trade until he breaks down in a year or so.

[Prokorov]

Unless Claxton is ready for a big role next year, I'd be pretty worried about giving up Allen. DJ was better than I expected last year but he will get played off the floor against strong PNR teams. We need to be ready for that and option 1 can't be Durant at the 5.

guys like allen are not tough to find relative to other positions/bigs who shoot. i can absolutely see moving allen in a deal and signing Aaron Baynes and going Jordan/Baynes for 1-2 years and trying to draft the next allen.

Baynes would be great but I'm not sure he's quick enough to go up on PNRs and defend the perimeter. His shooting and toughness would be enough to make it worth it though.

Those guys are easy-ish to find but there's no guarantee you find them. That's all I'm saying. And its an important position defensively. Houston felt the same way when they traded Capela. We could replace him with a minimum guy or a simple trade for a solid backup. Instead were forced to go all in on small ball.

Rockets were nto forced to go small ball, they embraced it.

Baynes is abetter perimeter defender than both allen and jordan. very underrated player. id want him whether we trade allen or not

[Prokorov]

Yeah I expect Spencer to either be traded or to leave in free agency, Harris and Allen are way more vital pieces long term.

For what it's worth, in Windrem's weekly offseason report, he reported that Dinwiddie believes he may be moved.

Dinwiddie has been signaling this for months. the dude isn't stupid.

Personally, I keep him as Kyrie insurance at least for this season. But I understand if the Nets don't want to lose him for nothing.

if we trade dinwiddie it is a certainty it would be for a PG/SG/Combo Guard who also provides that insurance.

[MrDollarBills]

For what it's worth, in Windrem's weekly offseason report, he reported that Dinwiddie believes he may be moved.

Dinwiddie has been signaling this for months. the dude isn't stupid.

Personally, I keep him as Kyrie insurance at least for this season. But I understand if the Nets don't want to lose him for nothing.

if we trade dinwiddie it is a certainty it would be for a PG/SG/Combo Guard who also provides that insurance.

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[Prokorov]

Dinwiddie has been signaling this for months. the dude isn't stupid.

Personally, I keep him as Kyrie insurance at least for this season. But I understand if the Nets don't want to lose him for nothing.

if we trade dinwiddie it is a certainty it would be for a PG/SG/Combo Guard who also provides that insurance.

SHAMS BOMB *cue funkmaster flex bomb drop sfx*

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HERE WE GO.

I just hope we have the chips to make it happen. We dont have great assets compared to other contenders and the assets we do have arent a great fit for NO. i think a 3rd/4th team is vital.

get it done marks.

[MGrand15]

Out of the potential contenders, I think we can offer the best package for Jrue if we REALLY want him. Things get a little dicey if rebuilding teams looking to make the leap make a run at him and NOP prefers a high pick in the draft. Atlanta, Phoenix, Minnesota have some pieces to offer that we just can't match.