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2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1881 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Nov 4, 2020 8:51 pm

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Yes! The 'Os have actually discussed the Ottawa area seriously this year. NS is a place of interest as well.


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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1882 » by King of Canada » Wed Nov 4, 2020 8:51 pm

Fat Kat wrote:I don’t know who needs to hear this but there should be no compromise with Nazis, racist, and baby snatchers. None.


You think you'll see a spin off conservative party now? I assume the party will try to distance themselves from the nut jobs. At least you hope so.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1883 » by GONYK » Wed Nov 4, 2020 8:51 pm

Fat Kat wrote:I don’t know who needs to hear this but there should be no compromise with Nazis, racist, and baby snatchers. None.


Agreed. And I think the conversation that frames the difference between the sides as simply a matter of policy preferences is disingenuous.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1884 » by King of Canada » Wed Nov 4, 2020 8:51 pm

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1885 » by robillionaire » Wed Nov 4, 2020 8:52 pm

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1887 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Nov 4, 2020 8:52 pm

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1888 » by SA37 » Wed Nov 4, 2020 8:53 pm

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Eliminating the electoral college would just be unrigging a system that only works in favor of the GOP because slavery. Even trump was crying about it back in 2012 when he thought that Romney was going to win the popular vote and lose the election (he didn't)



The only reason the Dems want to abolish the EC is because they know demographic shifts have made it extremely difficult for Republicans to win in an election based on the popular vote; it's not surprsing at all that the party that would have won the last ~7 elections in a popular vote system is calling for that to be the way the president is chosen.

The claim that the EC is "rigged" in favor of the GOP is completely unfounded.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1889 » by DOT » Wed Nov 4, 2020 8:54 pm

Fat Kat wrote:I don’t know who needs to hear this but there should be no compromise with Nazis, racist, and baby snatchers. None.

Also if the people you support are also supported by Nazis and racists, you should start asking why and re-think your priorities.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1890 » by robillionaire » Wed Nov 4, 2020 8:55 pm

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Eliminating the electoral college would just be unrigging a system that only works in favor of the GOP because slavery. Even trump was crying about it back in 2012 when he thought that Romney was going to win the popular vote and lose the election (he didn't)



The only reason the Dems want to abolish the EC is because they know demographic shifts have made it extremely difficult for Republicans to win in an election based on the popular vote; it's not surprsing at all that the party that would have won the last ~7 elections in a popular vote system is calling for that to be the way the president is chosen.

The claim that the EC is "rigged" in favor of the GOP is completely unfounded.


Why shouldn't it be? Other than the fact that you benefit from it. Why should we have a tyranny of a minority unpopular group over the popular majority of people, which is currently what we have
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1891 » by rammagen » Wed Nov 4, 2020 8:55 pm

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Major American cities fundamentally want something different from the rest of the country and I don't know how to reconcile that.


Compromise.

The whole goal (in theory) of the system is to force opposing sides compromise. Democrats spent a good portion of the time leading up to the election talking about essentially rigging the system in their favor by eliminating the Electoral College, making DC and PR states, and expanding the courts to give themselves an advantage. When they lost in 2016 -- and even this election that is neck and neck -- they have resorted to conspiracy theories (Russian meddling) or pathetic excuses (social media) for why they haven't been able to convince the public to give them the power they need to implement their policies or their candidates.

Identity politics, belief that Democrats are morally and ethically superior to the other side, this belief that the other side "owes" thel something, and an inability to compromise on certain major issues will likely continue to divide the Democrats and push them away from compromise that could otherwise lead to the implementation of policy.

Politics is tricky, but Americain institutions have brought about major changes to Americain society, even if those changes came about too slowly or too quickly for some.


Eliminating the electoral college would just be unrigging a system that only works in favor of the GOP because slavery. Even trump was crying about it back in 2012 when he thought that Romney was going to win the popular vote and lose the election (he didn't)

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There is so much projecting in this post. Who right now is pushing conspiracies of voter fraud and literally trying to stop votes from being counted? After they couldn't shut down the post office enough? They have done everything they can to suppress this vote, and cheat. Openly

Funny he liked it enough last time. the man is a liar
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1892 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Nov 4, 2020 8:56 pm

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GONYK wrote:Well, that was certainly a ride, huh boys?


The ride is just getting started


Not really.

Lower courts would have to rule in Trump's favor in order to escalate it to the higher courts.

Considering NOT A SINGLE BIT OF EVIDENCE has been given of fraud by Democrats, judges are going to rule to uphold state procedures.

This is going nowhere fast for Trump. It is hot air as long as Biden holds the margins in the remaining states.

Even if a recount is held, it won't change the outcome of a 20,000 margin for Biden so we'll know the result without Trump conceding.

Trump may never concede. SFW? It doesn't allow him to stay in the WH
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1893 » by Im Coming Home » Wed Nov 4, 2020 8:57 pm

Apparently 27% of the Mail-in Votes in Florida weren't delivered thanks to Dejoy bull, he's being brought in on a subpoena. I wonder if he gets away with this or if they end up counting those undelivered 27%, republicans are such hypocrites, they purposely neuter the USPS before the election and then use the laws in place to purposely not count 27% of mail ins that couldn't be delivered.. disgusting.

27% could easily swing Florida in Bidens favor with how around 80% of mail in voting has been going to Biden across the country.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1894 » by GONYK » Wed Nov 4, 2020 8:57 pm

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1895 » by stuporman » Wed Nov 4, 2020 8:58 pm

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robillionaire wrote:If Trump does lose, and assuming we can get him out of there, I think Trump runs again in 2024. Forget any idea that they're distancing from this. This solidified him and his ideology as interchangeable with the party.

Trump likes money more than power. I believe he'll prefer talking **** on fox to being president.


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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1897 » by robillionaire » Wed Nov 4, 2020 8:59 pm

rammagen wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
SA37 wrote:
Compromise.

The whole goal (in theory) of the system is to force opposing sides compromise. Democrats spent a good portion of the time leading up to the election talking about essentially rigging the system in their favor by eliminating the Electoral College, making DC and PR states, and expanding the courts to give themselves an advantage. When they lost in 2016 -- and even this election that is neck and neck -- they have resorted to conspiracy theories (Russian meddling) or pathetic excuses (social media) for why they haven't been able to convince the public to give them the power they need to implement their policies or their candidates.

Identity politics, belief that Democrats are morally and ethically superior to the other side, this belief that the other side "owes" thel something, and an inability to compromise on certain major issues will likely continue to divide the Democrats and push them away from compromise that could otherwise lead to the implementation of policy.

Politics is tricky, but Americain institutions have brought about major changes to Americain society, even if those changes came about too slowly or too quickly for some.


Eliminating the electoral college would just be unrigging a system that only works in favor of the GOP because slavery. Even trump was crying about it back in 2012 when he thought that Romney was going to win the popular vote and lose the election (he didn't)

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There is so much projecting in this post. Who right now is pushing conspiracies of voter fraud and literally trying to stop votes from being counted? After they couldn't shut down the post office enough? They have done everything they can to suppress this vote, and cheat. Openly

Funny he liked it enough last time. the man is a liar


Any argument about this comes down to saying or making whatever argument you have to make to get power at that time. If it helps you get power you support it and if it doesn't you don't support it. I mean let's just be honest and call it what it is. Now 5 of the 9 justices were appointed by presidents who lost the popular vote and so now we will get our rights stripped away from us by an unpopular minority. And he's begging them to give him the election.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1898 » by Im Coming Home » Wed Nov 4, 2020 9:00 pm

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Oh **** off Trump, you don't want to count the votes DATED YESTERDAY just because they didn't get delivered? You **** gutted the USPS thats why they couldn't deliver them the day off, PLUS Pennsylvania isn't even allowed to count the votes til the polls close, so they had to count all these votes in 3~ hours? Nah just take the L Trump.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1899 » by SA37 » Wed Nov 4, 2020 9:01 pm

King of Canada wrote:
SA37 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Major American cities fundamentally want something different from the rest of the country and I don't know how to reconcile that.


Compromise.

The whole goal (in theory) of the system is to force opposing sides compromise. Democrats spent a good portion of the time leading up to the election talking about essentially rigging the system in their favor by eliminating the Electoral College, making DC and PR states, and expanding the courts to give themselves an advantage. When they lost in 2016 -- and even this election that is neck and neck -- they have resorted to conspiracy theories (Russian meddling) or pathetic excuses (social media) for why they haven't been able to convince the public to give them the power they need to implement their policies or their candidates.

Identity politics, belief that Democrats are morally and ethically superior to the other side, this belief that the other side "owes" thel something, and an inability to compromise on certain major issues will likely continue to divide the Democrats and push them away from compromise that could otherwise lead to the implementation of policy.

Politics is tricky, but Americain institutions have brought about major changes to Americain society, even if those changes came about too slowly or too quickly for some.


I'm always saying it - but the compromise is so difficult in US politics because there are really only two parties. Here we have the two majors ones (Liberals and Conservatives), but then we have the NDP (New Democratic Party) that is a little further left than the Liberals, the green party that is gaining some traction, and then Quebec has their own party that takes votes from the major parties. In other words, they all have to work together to get stuff done. At the end of the day not much changes from one party to the other when in power. Also, our leader is just a figurehead of the party, so they can get taken down and replaced almost at a moments notice.


Yeah, and the winner-takes-all system is designed to make voting for 3rd party candidates a "wasted" vote. I think the US could fix a lot of election issues if it just got rid of winner-takes-all and included rank-choice voting to ensure a winner.

This would likely lead to a 3rd or a 4th party appearing (probably Libertarian/Tea Party, Establishment Republicans, Establishment Dems, and Progressive Dems) and you'd see a more parliamentary style of governance to get coalitions to pass legislation or make choices for judges or whatever.

Amazingly, no one is even discussing the idea of taking away the power the president has after watching 4 years of Trump. I'd love to see the president be given much less importance, which was the original intent of the Constitution.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1900 » by GONYK » Wed Nov 4, 2020 9:01 pm

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Oh **** off Trump, you don't want to count the votes DATED YESTERDAY just because they didn't get delivered? You **** gutted the USPS thats why they couldn't deliver them the day off, PLUS Pennsylvania isn't even allowed to count the votes til the polls close, so they had to count all these votes in 3~ hours? Nah just take the L Trump.


If everything plays out as expected, PA won't even matter

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