Moderators: j4remi, HerSports85, NoLayupRule, GONYK, Jeff Van Gully, dakomish23, Deeeez Knicks, mpharris36
Oscirus wrote:
Whispers are already talking about replacing Pelosi with Hakeem which would be weird given he's one of her lieutenants and his endorsement means Jack **** in these races
robillionaire wrote:mpharris36 wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:So, with the possibility of a run-off in GA, and Biden winning that would mean dems take control of senate as the VP is the tiebreaker? Is this correct?
Biden would first have to win (looks likely)
Perdue would have to stay below 50% (he is at 49.997%) like literally a few votes under 50% (toss up)
Then there would be two runoff senate seats in GA where the dems would have to win both run-offs to gain a tie in the senate with then the VP would be the tiebreaker.
Is it likely? no
Is it a possibility? Absolutely.
It's seems pretty likely perdue will be under 50%. But given that he had more votes this time, and trump won't be on the ballot next time the turnout would probably a lot different so I think it would benefit him
stuporman wrote:Joe Biden's lead in Nevada has gone up from 7,647 to more than 11,000 according to CNN but they are fake news
BallSacBounce wrote:Pointgod wrote:BallSacBounce wrote:Both are going to be challenged. If it's peace you're after take a nap and set your alarm clock for December... or January.
Based on what legal precedent?
Under THIS ONE!
Ever watch History Of The World Part I?
It's good to be da King.
Mel Brooks was a master.
There are several issues. At this point I have no way of knowing if they are smoke or real and no time to check into the details so I'm not bothering to link anything or talk about them. Waiting to see how things develop.
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:So, with the possibility of a run-off in GA, and Biden winning that would mean dems take control of senate as the VP is the tiebreaker? Is this correct?
Phish Tank wrote:j4remi wrote:GONYK wrote:
I don't disagree on critiques 1 and 2.
On 3, I feel a little "meh" about.
If you judge Trump solely on policy or are open to Trump despite his conduct, I think your moral compass is broken at best and you are a racist at worst. The middle of that is that you are ignorant.
I don't know how much you can appeal to those people without compromising yourself as a candidate. A candidate that looks like he's going to win by 4M+ votes
It's not a policy critique, it's a messaging critique. I don't think Biden's campaign taking a firm stance on those issues would be about appealing to anybody but cutting down on the negative partisanship impact.
The Biden tact was basically "by not committing to court stacking we can avoid angering the Republican voter, but we won't piss off the left independent voters either by leaving the door open a crack."
But I think the result actually allowed both of those groups to assume the worst (aided along by bad faith commentary heavily). Had he picked a side, one of the bad faith angles would be a much harder sell.
I'm just posting here to remind myself to save this conversation for sometime in December. I want to see the entirety of all races and results to produce a full post mortem. Then we can have a comprehensive conversation. But Remi makes great points and we'll expand on this further.
But the one unanimous thing we can all agree on is that the Florida Democratic Party must be abolished ASAP.
3toheadmelo wrote:Michigan’s lawsuit gone too.
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
i don't usually indulge rap but i died this time.
darryl dawkins... i'm gone.
? Pointgod wrote:
I’ve listened to a lot of interviews with Trump supporters, swing voters whatever the **** you want to call them and it’s blatantly obvious that a huge reason for Trump’s success was that Republicans were able to make Democrats the Party of AOC, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren, Biden. These aren’t some dumb yokels either, but the propaganda was successful. This is not about policy anymore, it’s about emotions and partisanship. You can’t blame Progressives for losing House seats that they didn’t run in, but Democrats need to figure out a national platform quick that appeals to everyone and let candidates adapt to the states they’re in or they’ll continue to bleed support in red/purple states.
j4remi wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:I am done with underestimating how many chitty Americans there are. This country is full of creeps.
I’ll fully co-sign that this is a country full of creeps
My thing is that the Democratic party’s strategy has all too often wasted resources on trying to appease the creeps at the expense of trying to build new voting blocs or strengthen existing and growing voter blocs.
spree2kawhi wrote:Everybody who claims illegal ballots would be counted somewhere, like Grenell did today, should be prosecuted. Let's see where they get that from. It's criminal imo.
stuporman wrote:An update on Trumpists....
In AZ and NV : Count the vote!
In PA and GA : Stop the count!
More at 10....and 11....and 12....and again tomorrow...and the day after that