WWE Raw Discussion III

tugs · Post #1521 » by **tugs** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 8:32 am

Found it beneficial tbh. Someone needs to take Ls to put guys over. This also gives him TV time, and it's not like he's getting squashed. Having a backstory of being successful in a tag team takes a lot of brunt losing in solo competitions.

Tucker has tools. It's how management can use them effectively.

Post #1522 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 10:30 pm

tugs wrote:Found it beneficial tbh. Someone needs to take Ls to put guys over. This also gives him TV time, and it's not like he's getting squashed. Having a backstory of being successful in a tag team takes a lot of brunt losing in solo competitions.

Tucker has tools. It's how management can use them effectively.

Yeah. Still, losing in less than a minute... that's brutal.

improper · Post #1523 » by **improper** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 6:04 am

tugs wrote:It's how management can use them effectively.

If there's one thing WWE is good at, it's using its talent effectively!

zappafrank · Post #1524 » by **zappafrank** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 7:34 am

that was one of the worst Raw's in a long time.

Dominator83 · Post #1525 » by **Dominator83** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 10:11 am

tugs wrote:Found it beneficial tbh. Someone needs to take Ls to put guys over. This also gives him TV time, and it's not like he's getting squashed. Having a backstory of being successful in a tag team takes a lot of brunt losing in solo competitions.

Tucker has tools. It's how management can use them effectively.

Even when guys do take Ls to put guys over, the writing does nothing to capitalize on it. See Keith Lee beating Randy Orton in his 1st main roster PPV match.

iMoreland · Post #1526 » by **iMoreland** » Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:43 am

So Drew wins the title again next week and Drew vs Roman at SS?

WRau1 · Post #1527 » by **WRau1** » Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:37 pm

Another Nia Jax match, another injured opponent. When are they going to give up on her?

The_Brecht · Post #1528 » by **The_Brecht** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:53 am

WRau1 wrote:Another Nia Jax match, another injured opponent. When are they going to give up on her?

Asuka injured?

WRau1 · Post #1529 » by **WRau1** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:21 am

Spoiler:

The_Brecht wrote:
WRau1 wrote:Another Nia Jax match, another injured opponent. When are they going to give up on her?

Asuka injured?

Mandy Rose.

Post #1530 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:59 pm

WRau1 wrote:
Spoiler:
The_Brecht wrote:
WRau1 wrote:Another Nia Jax match, another injured opponent. When are they going to give up on her?

Asuka injured?

Mandy Rose.

Can't really say Nia did anything wrong on that, but there's always going to be more risk with her because of the force she uses. Nia is going to have to be more skillful than most rasslers to not injure opponents, and obviously she's not more skillful than most rasslers.

WRau1 · Post #1531 » by **WRau1** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:16 pm

Ruzious wrote:
WRau1 wrote:
Spoiler:
The_Brecht wrote:
Asuka injured?

Mandy Rose.

Can't really say Nia did anything wrong on that, but there's always going to be more risk with her because of the force she uses. Nia is going to have to be more skillful than most rasslers to not injure opponents, and obviously she's not more skillful than most rasslers.

It looked like the exact same thing she did to Kari Sane, the 2nd time. She's not letting the wrestler use their own momentum on something that takes timing and is instead launching them.

Post #1532 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:29 pm

WRau1 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
WRau1 wrote:
Spoiler:

Mandy Rose.

Can't really say Nia did anything wrong on that, but there's always going to be more risk with her because of the force she uses. Nia is going to have to be more skillful than most rasslers to not injure opponents, and obviously she's not more skillful than most rasslers.

It looked like the exact same thing she did to Kari Sane, the 2nd time. She's not letting the wrestler use their own momentum on something that takes timing and is instead launching them.

Nah, Kari Sane was whipped into a steel step basically head first. Mandy was whipped through the ropes. That's a huge difference.

I do concur with your second sentence. And in both cases, she whipped the opponent too hard and too close to the object they were whipped into.

improper · Post #1533 » by **improper** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:24 am

Nia just isn't good enough at any aspect of wrestling for them to keep on bothering with her. She's a craptastic in-ring worker, she's got a terrible look, and she can't cut a compelling promo to save her life. If she weren't related to Rock, zero chance she'd still be around.

Nothing against her personally, but she's got no business being a wrestler.

tugs · Post #1534 » by **tugs** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:06 am

Oh wow when I saw that I just thought Mandy was selling but it did look bad during the time it happened

iMoreland · Post #1535 » by **iMoreland** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:26 pm

It's pretty obvious that McIntyre vs Reigns should be the Survivor Series match so I'm fully expecting Orton to retain tonight

Dominator83 · Post #1536 » by **Dominator83** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:52 pm

I'm actually intrigued going into tonight for the 1st time in a long time

jakecronus8 · Post #1537 » by **jakecronus8** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:00 am

Incredible main event. Best raw match since...?

jakecronus8 · Post #1538 » by **jakecronus8** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:03 am

improper wrote:Nia just isn't good enough at any aspect of wrestling for them to keep on bothering with her. She's a craptastic in-ring worker, she's got a terrible look, and she can't cut a compelling promo to save her life. If she weren't related to Rock, zero chance she'd still be around.

Nothing against her personally, but she's got no business being a wrestler.

Re: Nia

I’ve trained with guys before who for whatever reason could never quite understood or execute the finesse it takes to wrestle.

I think I inadvertently made one guy quit altogether. We were doing a drill where we’d run the ropes and take, then give a shoulder tackle. This guy outweighed me by about 80 pounds. Three times in a row after being corrected he would legitimately lower his shoulder and throw all his weight into my chest. After the third one I went off on him. Nice guy but just couldn’t understand how to make something look real without actually inflicting pain. He never came back to another training camp.

The_Brecht · Post #1539 » by **The_Brecht** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:44 am

jakecronus8 wrote:Incredible main event. Best raw match since...?

The best Randy Orton match in years?
The right decision to have Drew win it.

Pretty good RAW overall tbf.
I loved New Day vs The Hurt Business.
Although the RAW Survivor Series Team thing is pretty lame, Styles does make it work.
Lana going through a table again, as expected.

I don't like the Jax angle in which they progress the injury she caused last week.
It's not the first time they play it off like this.
Everytime she gets a 'push', she gets complacent and injures coworkers. It's a problem.

Post #1540 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:21 pm

The_Brecht wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:Incredible main event. Best raw match since...?

The best Randy Orton match in years?
The right decision to have Drew win it.

Pretty good RAW overall tbf.
I loved New Day vs The Hurt Business.
Although the RAW Survivor Series Team thing is pretty lame, Styles does make it work.
Lana going through a table again, as expected.

I don't like the Jax angle in which they progress the injury she caused last week.
It's not the first time they play it off like this.
Everytime she gets a 'push', she gets complacent and injures coworkers. It's a problem.

The one think I gotta give Lana credit for - she's somehow avoided getting injured by Nia... so far. If this going through tables every week is Vince's way of punishing her for Rusev's actions, there's another reason they need a union.