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2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1321 » by Floody100 » Fri Nov 6, 2020 4:38 am

As someone who knows nothing about Precious can someone fill me in on things like.
- What are his best attributes ?
- What does he struggle with ?
- Is he a 4 or a 5 ?
- which player in the NBA today would you compare him to the most ?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1322 » by BostonCouchGM » Fri Nov 6, 2020 5:23 am

As someone who knows nothing about Precious can someone fill me in on things like.

What are his best attributes ?
-freak athlete with elite size and length for a 4. Has a very high motor on both ends. He could be an elite defender, in transition and able to eventually score on all three levels if he works hard on his shot

What does he struggle with ?
-he has an inconsistent shot and an average handle

Is he a 4 or a 5?
-he's a 4 but could very well be a small ball 5. He can guard 2-5 depending on matchups

which player in the NBA today would you compare him to the most ?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1323 » by Spin Move » Fri Nov 6, 2020 8:20 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:As someone who knows nothing about Precious can someone fill me in on things like.

What are his best attributes ?
-freak athlete with elite size and length for a 4. Has a very high motor on both ends. He could be an elite defender, in transition and able to eventually score on all three levels if he works hard on his shot

What does he struggle with ?
-he has an inconsistent shot and an average handle

Is he a 4 or a 5?
-he's a 4 but could very well be a small ball 5. He can guard 2-5 depending on matchups

which player in the NBA today would you compare him to the most ?
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Preicous is a tremendous athlete who is a great rebounder, is very strong and a decent shot blocker, his FT% makes me worried he won't become a good shooter, but he is one of the higher upside guys available at 14, low floor though and despite his being a freshman last year he is already over 21. He is a modern big. I think he is closer to a poor mans bam then Sikiam, He is a very good ball handler for his size like Bam, and of similer size though 20lbs lighter then Bam at the moment, he is the same height Precious has a slightly better wingspan. In our System he would play the 5, he would sub for Thies the first year then theoretically take over, he is an ideal sized 4 or small ball 5. He is very switchable on defense.

Here are there college per 40 stats Bam is a better shooter and turns the ball over less, everything else favors Precious was a year older then Bam as a freshman.

Name MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
Bam 1145 5.9 9.9 .599 5.9 9.9 .599 0.0 0.0 0 5.4 8.2 .653 10.6 1.1 0.9 2.0 2.2 3.5 17.3
Precious 943 7.7 15.7 .493 7.2 14.0 .514 0.6 1.7 .325 4.8 7.9 .599 14.2 1.3 1.4 2.5 3.7 3.1 20.7


Here is a detailed scouting report
https://www.thestepien.com/2020/02/10/precious-achiuwa-scouting-report/
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Post#1324 » by JHTruth » Fri Nov 6, 2020 2:15 pm

Spin Move wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:As someone who knows nothing about Precious can someone fill me in on things like.

What are his best attributes ?
-freak athlete with elite size and length for a 4. Has a very high motor on both ends. He could be an elite defender, in transition and able to eventually score on all three levels if he works hard on his shot

What does he struggle with ?
-he has an inconsistent shot and an average handle

Is he a 4 or a 5?
-he's a 4 but could very well be a small ball 5. He can guard 2-5 depending on matchups

which player in the NBA today would you compare him to the most ?
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Preicous is a tremendous athlete who is a great rebounder, is very strong and a decent shot blocker, his FT% makes me worried he won't become a good shooter, but he is one of the higher upside guys available at 14, low floor though and despite his being a freshman last year he is already over 21. He is a modern big. I think he is closer to a poor mans bam then Sikiam, He is a very good ball handler for his size like Bam, and of similer size though 20lbs lighter then Bam at the moment, he is the same height Precious has a slightly better wingspan. In our System he would play the 5, he would sub for Thies the first year then theoretically take over, he is an ideal sized 4 or small ball 5. He is very switchable on defense.

Here are there college per 40 stats Bam is a better shooter and turns the ball over less, everything else favors Precious was a year older then Bam as a freshman.

Name MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
Bam 1145 5.9 9.9 .599 5.9 9.9 .599 0.0 0.0 0 5.4 8.2 .653 10.6 1.1 0.9 2.0 2.2 3.5 17.3
Precious 943 7.7 15.7 .493 7.2 14.0 .514 0.6 1.7 .325 4.8 7.9 .599 14.2 1.3 1.4 2.5 3.7 3.1 20.7


Here is a detailed scouting report
https://www.thestepien.com/2020/02/10/precious-achiuwa-scouting-report/


Precious is very raw. Essentially a dunker at this point. His shooting %'s do not indicate much promise as a floor stretcher. He's a 4. Has not flashed any passing.

He's 3 years away at the minimum from being a starter..
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Post#1325 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Nov 6, 2020 2:58 pm

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1326 » by big-shot-ROB » Fri Nov 6, 2020 3:01 pm

Good luck trying to play Precious at the 4.
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Post#1327 » by jmr07019 » Fri Nov 6, 2020 3:05 pm

Precious is a 5
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Post#1328 » by Homerclease » Fri Nov 6, 2020 3:45 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Who's yours?

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Post#1329 » by Spin Move » Fri Nov 6, 2020 4:34 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:Good luck trying to play Precious at the 4.

Which aspect of his game would not fit 4, he has great speed for a big, he had no problem switching onto gaurds in college?
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Post#1330 » by Spin Move » Fri Nov 6, 2020 4:42 pm

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Jalen Smith
Zeke Nnaji


Both Nnaji and Precious are mobile, Nnaji is a much better shooter, however he is not nearly the defender and for his size a bad shotblocker, while Precious is a good shotblocker not a great shotblocker he is MUCH better defensivly the Nnaji, however Nnaji should be available at 26 and Precious might not be there at 14.
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Post#1331 » by famadihana » Fri Nov 6, 2020 4:57 pm

Spin Move wrote:
big-shot-ROB wrote:Good luck trying to play Precious at the 4.

Which aspect of his game would not fit 4, he has great speed for a big, he had no problem switching onto gaurds in college?


I think his lack of spacing would create issues next to a 5.
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Post#1332 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri Nov 6, 2020 5:15 pm

What's the difference between Precious Achiuwa and Rob Williams? Achiuwa sounds pretty raw on offense. Is Achiuwa better at guarding pick-n-roll?
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Post#1333 » by threrf23 » Fri Nov 6, 2020 5:22 pm

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Precious is very raw. Essentially a dunker at this point. His shooting %'s do not indicate much promise as a floor stretcher. He's a 4. Has not flashed any passing.

He's 3 years away at the minimum from being a starter..


People said similar things about Giannis, granted Giannis' passing ability and instincts had been rather apparent to scouts and Giannis had sort of just started playing.

But a 2019 capsule on nbadraft.net claimed that Precious showed solid ability as a ballhandler and passer. His A/TO ratio at Memphis was passable - in the context that he served as a high usage center.

While an older freshman, he averaged at least 10 rebounds, .95 assists, one steal, and one block per game. This puts him in good company. Since '92, the only other major conference freshman to pull this off, are Kevin Durant, Mike Beasley, and Anthony Davis. Beasley of course is a fluke, who had the raw potential to do big things in the NBA.

Although he was an older freshman, and there are a number of players who met those marks as sophomores. And apparently he was born in Nigeria and moved to the Bronx at the age of 14, so I'm not sure if we know his real age.

A comparison to Giannis is melodramatic and probably uncalled for, but it has been made before. I suspect that his floor is something to the effect of Montrezl Harrell.

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Post#1334 » by AgentGreen » Fri Nov 6, 2020 6:23 pm

Precious Achiuwa is just a smoke screen.
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Post#1335 » by Spin Move » Fri Nov 6, 2020 6:25 pm

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big-shot-ROB wrote:Good luck trying to play Precious at the 4.

Which aspect of his game would not fit 4, he has great speed for a big, he had no problem switching onto gaurds in college?


I think his lack of spacing would create issues next to a 5.

Not if the 5's can shoot threes, he is not a horrible shooter he made over 30% on over a 3 a game in memphis last season in a couple of years he should develop an Aaron Baynes level of 3 point shooting.
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Post#1336 » by Spin Move » Fri Nov 6, 2020 6:29 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:What's the difference between Precious Achiuwa and Rob Williams? Achiuwa sounds pretty raw on offense. Is Achiuwa better at guarding pick-n-roll?


Precious is taller and faster though Rob is longer, Previous has a much better handle and rebounded in college at a higher rate. Williams is a better shot blocker andhad higher FG percentage (all dunks) Precious took more outside shots and had a better FT%. Precious does not have the injury history wiliams had. Precious is the type of big who will catch the ball in the high post and drive to the basket while Williams is strictly a putback kind of guy.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1337 » by JHTruth » Fri Nov 6, 2020 6:32 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:What's the difference between Precious Achiuwa and Rob Williams? Achiuwa sounds pretty raw on offense. Is Achiuwa better at guarding pick-n-roll?


The offenses in the NBA are much more sophisticated and complex than college offenses. That's why bigs always take the longest to develop. It takes a couple years at least for bigs coming in to become competent on D.
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Post#1338 » by Spin Move » Fri Nov 6, 2020 6:32 pm

Top 12 bigs
Wiseman
Okongwu
Toppin
Precious (him and smith flip on a daily basis
Smith
Oturu
Nnanji
Doke (6 years ago he would be a top 10 pick)
Reed
Carey (same as doke)
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1339 » by AgentGreen » Fri Nov 6, 2020 6:58 pm

Spin Move wrote:
famadihana wrote:
Spin Move wrote:Which aspect of his game would not fit 4, he has great speed for a big, he had no problem switching onto gaurds in college?


I think his lack of spacing would create issues next to a 5.

Not if the 5's can shoot threes, he is not a horrible shooter he made over 30% on over a 3 a game in memphis last season in a couple of years he should develop an Aaron Baynes level of 3 point shooting.


30% on 1.3 3PA. His percentage woudve been way lower if he shot like 3-4 per game. There is no guarantee he could develop like Aaron Baynes. He could also develop a better shot way later when we've already traded him, like Howard and Deandre Jordan got traded later in their careers.

His FT% scares me, not a good sign of him becoming a good shooter. Perhaps a streaky shooter like Smart eventually, but that would be probably in his 2nd contract. If we go PF/C than Jalen Smith is the better choice next to Theis or Robert Willams.

Saddiq Bey would be another better pick instead of Achiuwa as well. Same age and already a better allround player.
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Post#1340 » by playa-hater » Fri Nov 6, 2020 7:06 pm

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