ChuckDurn wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Chupchup wrote:And as warriors fans, we definitely know what that is like!
Wiggins is an extremely negative contract. If the Warriors are winning it will take the Wolves pick and your own to move him. Maybe just the Wolves pick.
Right now, that's probably the case. Just to get to neutral value with the 3 years left on Wiggins' deal right now, we would likely need to attach either this year's #2 pick, or the Minnesota pick next year. Then to actually fetch a positive asset coming back to us, we'd need to add more value. That's why almost all of the deals suggesting we'd use Wiggins to match salary on a star coming back, we have to add both picks and even more - 1 of the picks negates Wiggins' bad deal, and then the rest of the package is actually trying to match the value for that other player.
But teams will be less averse to take on his contract if there's less time on it, since it wouldn't handicap their cap sheet for as long. And if he demonstrates that he can be a better player, that also improves the value.
Right now he's a guy who (based on what he's shown so far) probably is worth $10M/year, but he's making $30M/year for the next 3 years. So a team trading for him pays $90M for 3 years, and only gets $30M of production. So right now, the Warriors need to "pay" them an additional $60M worth of assets.
Let's say this year, with the Warriors, he shows that he's actually able to play at a $15M/year value. At the end of the year, he'll only have 2 years left. So a team acquiring him says "He'll cost me $60M over the next 2 years, and I'll only get $30M of production". So the Warriors now only have to make up $30M of assets in additional trade value, were they to trade him.
Because his contract is so negative, nobody else wants him now. But it's the Warriors' hope that they can rehabilitate his value by putting him in a position where he has a much better chance to succeed. And maybe next off-season he'd be more tradeable than he is now.
That's old news. Nobody cares about negative contract anymore as it was the talk when trading Wiggins + #2 + more for Ben Simmons + Al Horford, Bradley Beal, or Myles Turner + TJ Warren, or the wild rumors for Giannis.
Now, Wiggins isn't being included in the trade down talks, but it's the TPE + #2 for an impact player or for a vet and to trade down, i.e. get a pick in return. The Pistons look like a good team to trade with or the Knicks for LaMelo Ball. But the TWolves could be thinking the same thing. If so, then they'll draft LaMelo for trade down purposes and leave the Warriors a nice selection of picks to keep, use to trade down, or use in a later trade before the deadline.
