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Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract!

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What should be the next step after Hayward opts in?

Remain on team for another Playoff run
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Traded on draft night
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Traded at deadline
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Theres a belief Hayward and team wants to help facilitate a trade
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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#421 » by Bill Lumbergh » Fri Nov 6, 2020 5:09 pm

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NuckyPowell wrote:Via Shams: Trade restrictions expected to be lifted by Nov 16. I am supposing that Hayward could opt in at that point, enabling his trade at draft time if he chose. Would open up a lot more options to us.

Trade restrictions are expected to be lifted prior to the draft, yes. But there's still no word on when the option deadlines are. Those usually come before FA, which they say would be 2-3 days, post-draft. So theoretically, Hayward could still opt in post-draft if deadline isn't pre-draft.

Guess I was hoping, because of the weird nature of this year, that they might switch that up. Probably not, though. It sure would open up more possibilities.
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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#422 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Nov 6, 2020 5:31 pm

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NuckyPowell wrote:Via Shams: Trade restrictions expected to be lifted by Nov 16. I am supposing that Hayward could opt in at that point, enabling his trade at draft time if he chose. Would open up a lot more options to us.

Trade restrictions are expected to be lifted prior to the draft, yes. But there's still no word on when the option deadlines are. Those usually come before FA, which they say would be 2-3 days, post-draft. So theoretically, Hayward could still opt in post-draft if deadline isn't pre-draft.

Guess I was hoping, because of the weird nature of this year, that they might switch that up. Probably not, though. It sure would open up more possibilities.

There were instances when option deadline of a player came prior to the draft. Baynes, IINM, had his deadline pre-draft last year. As soon as they sort out the financial side of things, we can expect an announcement of those deadlines.
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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#423 » by GoCeltics123 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 2:28 am

Hawks insider on Hayward:

Atlanta and Hayward’s agent have been talking preliminary on Gordon. So far, no offer has been made or can be made but there is a presumption that there is major interest on both sides. Gordon would love to resign in Boston if the price is right which I have been told is miles apart. He seems like Atlanta’s prized signing for 2020-21. The cost of this signing will be high. He is hearing he is seeking an Al Horford deal and I honestly don’t think that’s bad value if the team he’s going to wants to use him correctly which is exactly how Boston uses him when he’s healthy.
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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#424 » by Captain_Caveman » Sat Nov 7, 2020 2:35 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:Hawks insider on Hayward:

Atlanta and Hayward’s agent have been talking preliminary on Gordon. So far, no offer has been made or can be made but there is a presumption that there is major interest on both sides. Gordon would love to resign in Boston if the price is right which I have been told is miles apart. He seems like Atlanta’s prized signing for 2020-21. The cost of this signing will be high. He is hearing he is seeking an Al Horford deal and I honestly don’t think that’s bad value if the team he’s going to wants to use him correctly which is exactly how Boston uses him when he’s healthy.


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Post#425 » by GoCeltics123 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 2:42 am

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GoCeltics123 wrote:Hawks insider on Hayward:

Atlanta and Hayward’s agent have been talking preliminary on Gordon. So far, no offer has been made or can be made but there is a presumption that there is major interest on both sides. Gordon would love to resign in Boston if the price is right which I have been told is miles apart. He seems like Atlanta’s prized signing for 2020-21. The cost of this signing will be high. He is hearing he is seeking an Al Horford deal and I honestly don’t think that’s bad value if the team he’s going to wants to use him correctly which is exactly how Boston uses him when he’s healthy.


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If he wants a Horford deal, that's a tough pill to swallow IMO
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Post#426 » by Captain_Caveman » Sat Nov 7, 2020 3:13 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:Hawks insider on Hayward:



Pffft.

If he wants a Horford deal, that's a tough pill to swallow IMO


Haha, you got called out for being a lurker. Nyah nyah!

I like the dude and appreciate the insights, and I don't link him over here. If you read their past posts, the track record is actually not that good, but they are humble and honest about how raw the intel is in a dynamic landscape. I've read enough of it in real time to know that they aren't talking out of their ass. The other one over there is good, too.

The rest of them should be aware that we've had like 4-5 better insiders here, though. Scoops for days on some of the biggest trades and free agent signings in league history. Yuuuuuuup. I know that they said, "Celtics suck" and all, but I'm feeling warm and fuzzy towards Georgia atm so we can let that slide. Georgia is usually on the wrong side of blowing big leads, after all.

Hayward a good add for them, and losing him would not be good for us. Maybe we get the TPE if it happens? Hawks might also be getting used to set his market/trade value, though. Hmm.
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Post#427 » by MagicBagley18 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 3:19 am

I got a horford deal for you....it requires you in another teams jersey
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Post#428 » by MagicBagley18 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 3:23 am

Jesus Hayward gone for zippo is a tough spot
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Post#429 » by themoneyteam2 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 3:27 am

Would be brutal to lose Hayward for nothing though.
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Post#430 » by MagicBagley18 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 3:29 am

Hayward would be dumb not to take a deal like that- even if it’s the hawks. Take it and run. When he’s healthy he’s very good but if I’m the hawks I’m not gambling on him just to get an 8 seed if I’m lucky a 7 seed
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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#431 » by GoCeltics123 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 3:59 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
Pffft.

If he wants a Horford deal, that's a tough pill to swallow IMO


Haha, you got called out for being a lurker. Nyah nyah!

I like the dude and appreciate the insights, and I don't link him over here. If you read their past posts, the track record is actually not that good, but they are humble and honest about how raw the intel is in a dynamic landscape. I've read enough of it in real time to know that they aren't talking out of their ass. The other one over there is good, too.

The rest of them should be aware that we've had like 4-5 better insiders here, though. Scoops for days on some of the biggest trades and free agent signings in league history. Yuuuuuuup. I know that they said, "Celtics suck" and all, but I'm feeling warm and fuzzy towards Georgia atm so we can let that slide. Georgia is usually on the wrong side of blowing big leads, after all.

Hayward a good add for them, and losing him would not be good for us. Maybe we get the TPE if it happens? Hawks might also be getting used to set his market/trade value, though. Hmm.

I did? Haha dang, well, like you, I'm not going to trash GA for how they voted this year.

And haha Cave I see what you're doing there, Mr. KD to the Warriors way before anyone else and Kawhi to LAC, those were impressive, and reload 2017-2019 was on a **** tear insider-wise and The Comedian and Captain Green are talking the mantle. Ddb, Bfb (it's been a long time with him), Lbf, we've got a crew here.

It would be a good add, but that's no question too much dough for him. Supes said we want 4/60 or 4/65 for him which is a little low IMO. Supes seems to think he leaves for nothing which sucks, like man would the Hawks really not take a late 1st for that TPE?

If Hayward leaves, I know a lot of people will want to start Marcus Smart, but personally I'd rather start Grant. Also Supes says that the Celtics are "fine" with losing GH but the other guy said we almost want him gone at this point.

Also, we want Baynes back. WE WANT BAYNES BACK PEOPLE, SOUND THE **** ALARMS!!! Though it'll probably be tough to get him, teams like the Clips/Rockets/Suns/etc. all want him too.
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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#432 » by MagicBagley18 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 4:19 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:If he wants a Horford deal, that's a tough pill to swallow IMO


Haha, you got called out for being a lurker. Nyah nyah!

I like the dude and appreciate the insights, and I don't link him over here. If you read their past posts, the track record is actually not that good, but they are humble and honest about how raw the intel is in a dynamic landscape. I've read enough of it in real time to know that they aren't talking out of their ass. The other one over there is good, too.

The rest of them should be aware that we've had like 4-5 better insiders here, though. Scoops for days on some of the biggest trades and free agent signings in league history. Yuuuuuuup. I know that they said, "Celtics suck" and all, but I'm feeling warm and fuzzy towards Georgia atm so we can let that slide. Georgia is usually on the wrong side of blowing big leads, after all.

Hayward a good add for them, and losing him would not be good for us. Maybe we get the TPE if it happens? Hawks might also be getting used to set his market/trade value, though. Hmm.

I did? Haha dang, well, like you, I'm not going to trash GA for how they voted this year.

And haha Cave I see what you're doing there, Mr. KD to the Warriors way before anyone else and Kawhi to LAC, those were impressive, and reload 2017-2019 was on a **** tear insider-wise and The Comedian and Captain Green are talking the mantle. Ddb, Bfb (it's been a long time with him), Lbf, we've got a crew here.

It would be a good add, but that's no question too much dough for him. Supes said we want 4/60 or 4/65 for him which is a little low IMO. Supes seems to think he leaves for nothing which sucks, like man would the Hawks really not take a late 1st for that TPE?

If Hayward leaves, I know a lot of people will want to start Marcus Smart, but personally I'd rather start Grant. Also Supes says that the Celtics are "fine" with losing GH but the other guy said we almost want him gone at this point.

Also, we want Baynes back. WE WANT BAYNES BACK PEOPLE, SOUND THE **** ALARMS!!! Though it'll probably be tough to get him, teams like the Clips/Rockets/Suns/etc. all want him too.


They got you and cave w the shout outs! lol. Tommy is already excited ab Baynes being back in the showers!!!
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Post#433 » by Floody100 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 5:12 am

Floody100 wrote:Hayward in a hawks jersey starting to look very likely.


Very very likely now.
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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#434 » by Threezus » Sat Nov 7, 2020 5:18 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
Pffft.

If he wants a Horford deal, that's a tough pill to swallow IMO


Haha, you got called out for being a lurker. Nyah nyah!

I like the dude and appreciate the insights, and I don't link him over here. If you read their past posts, the track record is actually not that good, but they are humble and honest about how raw the intel is in a dynamic landscape. I've read enough of it in real time to know that they aren't talking out of their ass. The other one over there is good, too.

The rest of them should be aware that we've had like 4-5 better insiders here, though. Scoops for days on some of the biggest trades and free agent signings in league history. Yuuuuuuup. I know that they said, "Celtics suck" and all, but I'm feeling warm and fuzzy towards Georgia atm so we can let that slide. Georgia is usually on the wrong side of blowing big leads, after all.

Hayward a good add for them, and losing him would not be good for us. Maybe we get the TPE if it happens? Hawks might also be getting used to set his market/trade value, though. Hmm.


lol you know we welcome you over on the Squawk :P Supes is a awesome dude and is very generous with his time and inside info. Im still not sure how i feel about Hayward as our big get im actually a bit underwhelmed and dissapointed. He's not a bad player by any means im just not to thrilled with how much it seems he is wanting and were going to have to spend. I personally would prefer Jrue Holiday myself but after looking up Haywards numbers he is a MUCHHHHHHH better defender than i remember thinking of him. Thats exactly the type of player we need on this team. Just would need to see how much it costs and hopefully get him for around 4/65 or 4/70. If he wants more than that im not sure it would be a win for us in the end.
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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#435 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Nov 7, 2020 6:58 am

Threezus wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:If he wants a Horford deal, that's a tough pill to swallow IMO


Haha, you got called out for being a lurker. Nyah nyah!

I like the dude and appreciate the insights, and I don't link him over here. If you read their past posts, the track record is actually not that good, but they are humble and honest about how raw the intel is in a dynamic landscape. I've read enough of it in real time to know that they aren't talking out of their ass. The other one over there is good, too.

The rest of them should be aware that we've had like 4-5 better insiders here, though. Scoops for days on some of the biggest trades and free agent signings in league history. Yuuuuuuup. I know that they said, "Celtics suck" and all, but I'm feeling warm and fuzzy towards Georgia atm so we can let that slide. Georgia is usually on the wrong side of blowing big leads, after all.

Hayward a good add for them, and losing him would not be good for us. Maybe we get the TPE if it happens? Hawks might also be getting used to set his market/trade value, though. Hmm.


lol you know we welcome you over on the Squawk :P Supes is a awesome dude and is very generous with his time and inside info. Im still not sure how i feel about Hayward as our big get im actually a bit underwhelmed and dissapointed. He's not a bad player by any means im just not to thrilled with how much it seems he is wanting and were going to have to spend. I personally would prefer Jrue Holiday myself but after looking up Haywards numbers he is a MUCHHHHHHH better defender than i remember thinking of him. Thats exactly the type of player we need on this team. Just would need to see how much it costs and hopefully get him for around 4/65 or 4/70. If he wants more than that im not sure it would be a win for us in the end.


Hayward is getting more than either of those numbers easily and that's in this current climate.
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Post#436 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Nov 7, 2020 7:41 am

Shak_Celts wrote:
Threezus wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
Haha, you got called out for being a lurker. Nyah nyah!

I like the dude and appreciate the insights, and I don't link him over here. If you read their past posts, the track record is actually not that good, but they are humble and honest about how raw the intel is in a dynamic landscape. I've read enough of it in real time to know that they aren't talking out of their ass. The other one over there is good, too.

The rest of them should be aware that we've had like 4-5 better insiders here, though. Scoops for days on some of the biggest trades and free agent signings in league history. Yuuuuuuup. I know that they said, "Celtics suck" and all, but I'm feeling warm and fuzzy towards Georgia atm so we can let that slide. Georgia is usually on the wrong side of blowing big leads, after all.

Hayward a good add for them, and losing him would not be good for us. Maybe we get the TPE if it happens? Hawks might also be getting used to set his market/trade value, though. Hmm.


lol you know we welcome you over on the Squawk :P Supes is a awesome dude and is very generous with his time and inside info. Im still not sure how i feel about Hayward as our big get im actually a bit underwhelmed and dissapointed. He's not a bad player by any means im just not to thrilled with how much it seems he is wanting and were going to have to spend. I personally would prefer Jrue Holiday myself but after looking up Haywards numbers he is a MUCHHHHHHH better defender than i remember thinking of him. Thats exactly the type of player we need on this team. Just would need to see how much it costs and hopefully get him for around 4/65 or 4/70. If he wants more than that im not sure it would be a win for us in the end.


Hayward is getting more than either of those numbers easily and that's in this current climate.

Here I am willing to give Hayward 4/100 with last year partially guaranteed. If Hawks are only willing to give him that much above, then he ain't leaving the Cs.
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Post#437 » by Threezus » Sat Nov 7, 2020 7:53 am

Shak_Celts wrote:
Threezus wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
Haha, you got called out for being a lurker. Nyah nyah!

I like the dude and appreciate the insights, and I don't link him over here. If you read their past posts, the track record is actually not that good, but they are humble and honest about how raw the intel is in a dynamic landscape. I've read enough of it in real time to know that they aren't talking out of their ass. The other one over there is good, too.

The rest of them should be aware that we've had like 4-5 better insiders here, though. Scoops for days on some of the biggest trades and free agent signings in league history. Yuuuuuuup. I know that they said, "Celtics suck" and all, but I'm feeling warm and fuzzy towards Georgia atm so we can let that slide. Georgia is usually on the wrong side of blowing big leads, after all.

Hayward a good add for them, and losing him would not be good for us. Maybe we get the TPE if it happens? Hawks might also be getting used to set his market/trade value, though. Hmm.


lol you know we welcome you over on the Squawk :P Supes is a awesome dude and is very generous with his time and inside info. Im still not sure how i feel about Hayward as our big get im actually a bit underwhelmed and dissapointed. He's not a bad player by any means im just not to thrilled with how much it seems he is wanting and were going to have to spend. I personally would prefer Jrue Holiday myself but after looking up Haywards numbers he is a MUCHHHHHHH better defender than i remember thinking of him. Thats exactly the type of player we need on this team. Just would need to see how much it costs and hopefully get him for around 4/65 or 4/70. If he wants more than that im not sure it would be a win for us in the end.


Hayward is getting more than either of those numbers easily and that's in this current climate.


Yeah im thinking he does too which would scare me a bit as he does have his injury problems.
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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#438 » by Threezus » Sat Nov 7, 2020 7:58 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:
Threezus wrote:
lol you know we welcome you over on the Squawk :P Supes is a awesome dude and is very generous with his time and inside info. Im still not sure how i feel about Hayward as our big get im actually a bit underwhelmed and dissapointed. He's not a bad player by any means im just not to thrilled with how much it seems he is wanting and were going to have to spend. I personally would prefer Jrue Holiday myself but after looking up Haywards numbers he is a MUCHHHHHHH better defender than i remember thinking of him. Thats exactly the type of player we need on this team. Just would need to see how much it costs and hopefully get him for around 4/65 or 4/70. If he wants more than that im not sure it would be a win for us in the end.


Hayward is getting more than either of those numbers easily and that's in this current climate.

Here I am willing to give Hayward 4/100 with last year partially guaranteed. If Hawks are only willing to give him that much above, then he ain't leaving the Cs.


25 mil a year and i have no clue what the hawks are willing to give him they could offer that or more. You get to see him play way more than me is he that good and worth 25 to 30 mil a year? How much do you think he would help the hawks in general compared to say a Jrue Holiday or Jaylen brown just based on the talent level those 2 have compared to Hayward. Also note i know Brown isn't up for grabs from yall even though i want him badly but thats not ever going to happen. Mostly just want to know how comparable of a player and talent we get in Hayward to those 2 .
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Post#439 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Nov 7, 2020 8:29 am

Threezus wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:
Hayward is getting more than either of those numbers easily and that's in this current climate.

Here I am willing to give Hayward 4/100 with last year partially guaranteed. If Hawks are only willing to give him that much above, then he ain't leaving the Cs.


25 mil a year and i have no clue what the hawks are willing to give him they could offer that or more. You get to see him play way more than me is he that good and worth 25 to 30 mil a year? How much do you think he would help the hawks in general compared to say a Jrue Holiday or Jaylen brown just based on the talent level those 2 have compared to Hayward. Also note i know Brown isn't up for grabs from yall even though i want him badly but thats not ever going to happen. Mostly just want to know how comparable of a player and talent we get in Hayward to those 2 .

I'm probably biased so I might be the wrong guy to ask. IF he can remain healthy in the duration of the contract (and even I am having doubts at this point; all of his injuries have been **** luck, not because of something structurally wrong with him) and on a team where he doesn't have to play 4th/5th fiddle, he's totally worth it at that price. With the Hawks I'm guessing Gordon's at worst the 2nd option with Young as the primary playmaker. I think Hayward's the most dynamic and most efficient of the three. Depends on what you need. Holiday is the best defender and most well-rounded of the three but isn't as good at shooting as the other two. Brown is great at taking on tough defensive individual assignments but is still growing as a team defender. If used correctly, he can get you 20 ppg even without having to hog the ball -- catch-and-shoot, transition, driving off screens/curls, a couple of midrange postups. Plus he's only a year older than Collins. So he hasn't peaked yet. But yeah, you're not getting him hehe.
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Post#440 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Sat Nov 7, 2020 8:54 am

Well, if Hayward is really signing with them, I'd be more than happy to give them a future 1st round pick if they'd give us back a TPE.

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