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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1381 » by djFan71 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 8:41 am

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I have not seen enoug of reeds games to know for sure but the scouting reports imply that Precious is much more mobile then reed.

I'm no expert and just going off highlights of both, so could totally be wrong. There's probably a reason Precious is always mocked higher. But my impression was Precious seems stronger, Reed a little more quicker/active. Here's the Ringer on both:

Precious:
Athletic defender who makes plays in the passing lanes as a mobile helper. With his length and strength, he could develop into a rim protector in smaller lineups.
High defensive potential thanks to his physical measurements and quickness, but his fundamentals and discipline must improve.
Struggles with inconsistency as a defender. His footwork hinders his ability to slide and stay in front of quicker players, but it’s fixable.

Reed
Bouncy leaper who can block shots and rebound. He plays hard and pushes the break after boards.
Multipositional defender with the lateral quickness to contain perimeter players and the size and length to battle against leaner bigs.
Active help defender who closes out, rotates to contest shots, and jumps passing lanes.
Lean frame limits him defensively against true bigs; he gets swallowed inside, which again causes him to foul.


Doesn't seem to really favor one over the other, but I like the Reed on the perimeter comments over the Precious footwork/fundamentals comments. Where are you looking? I've also looked at Stepien and scouting vids from HoopIntellect or something (can't remember right now).

From espn Precious #2 ranked PF Paul Reed #10
Pre-Draft Analysis

Strengths
- Elite physical profile and ideal defensive versatility. Has the strength (234 pounds) and standing reach (9-1.5) to slide all the way up to the center spot in small lineups. Explosive above the rim in space. Light on his feet. Long arms (7-2 wingspan), big hands. Has the tools to check either forward spot in the NBA while also switching onto the perimeter.
- Has grab-and-go potential with the ball. At his best attacking the rim in space as a mismatch 4. Aggressive mentality.
- Shows glimpses of upside as a shooter, sometimes even knocking down shots off the dribble. Poor free throw shooter but made 32.5% of 40 3-point attempts at Memphis.


https://www.nbadraftjunkies.com/precious-achiuwa
"He’s one of my favorite prospects in this draft... not because his game is aesthetically pleasing. I’m high on him as a prospect because of his versatility and I see him as multi dimensional weapon that can be difference maker if he goes to the right team. He’ll need a that places a strong emphasis on player development and a creative coaching staff that will used him to exploit mismatches..

At 6’9 225lb Achiuwa is an excellent explosive athlete with good coordination, fluidity, and straight line speed rarely seen in someone his size... "
Many of the sites don't have full descriptions of Reed as he is not in the 1st round on most boards, He seems like a he has good mobility for his size while precious has elite mobility.

Cool, thanks. I can see having Precious as an overall elite athlete ahead of Reed, but I haven't see the level of defensive switching/footspeed out of him that I have in the Reed clips. But, I'd talk myself into Precious at 14 real easy if it happens.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1382 » by Spin Move » Sat Nov 7, 2020 8:59 am

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snowman wrote:Precious hit a TOTAL of 13 threes last season, at the college distance. I just don't see it at 14. Maybe 26 or 30, but not 14. We already have Timelord. Now if Timelord is going in a trade for someone else, then maybe, but still at 26 not 14. Rather have Oturu. He has a better shot from distance, and a better rebounder and shot blocker.


Precious also shot 40-something % from the line. I’m fine if we like him I guess but I see a lot of putback layups in his highlights, doesn’t seem as explosive an athlete as Jalen Smith or Paul Reed, and I may like Oturu and Nnaji better as well. But whatever as long as we get a 4/5 prospect with legitimate size to go along with whichever combo guard(s) we overdraft.


That is not correct your confusing him with some of the other bigs, he shot basically 60% from the line. He is a better athlete then anyone you mentioned, not saying he should be our pick but if we are talking pure athleticism from bigs only Okungwu has his number in this draft.

He has some skills that are very good got his size like ball handeling ability to switch but his shooting is a question mark, he shot really badly on contested jumpers, but again he is not a non shooter and given time to work may become a good shooter multiple draft sites like his shooting form. I go back and forth between whether I like him or smith better, Smith is the better scorer and shooter (not scorer) and shot blocker Precios is the better driver and ball handler and is stronger and faster. Smith has more skill Precious more upside. If we are going big at 14 they are the 2 real choices there. Smith has his own bust possibility due to his thin legs, he won't be able to add weight like Precious should be able to.

Waiting till 26 is a possiblity, I really like Oturu, I think Paul reed is a solid guy at 26 and 30 but both of those players have limited upside. Oturu likely won't be that switchable (He can probably switch onto slower wings but not fast guards despite his good athleticism testing). There are interesting prospects like Nnaji and Azabukie and Carey that are each limited but have potential to do certain things well.

Switchable big rankings
1. Okongwu
2. Wiseman
3. Precious
4. Reed
5. Nnaji

I don't have a problem with anyone saying that Precious is not there guy at 14 (I would rather we drafted Nesmith there then a big) but saying he is not uber athletic or has potential is silly. Others have put it well its hard to improve as a shooter, most don't but Precious could be an all star if he does because he has the rebounding ability and defensive potential to be more then just a role player. He has the highest upside of any big at 14. I think his floor is low. Depends on how risk averse you are and where you prioritize. I think if Nesmith is there you take Nesmith, but if he is not I look very hard at Precious and Smith. There are fewer interesting wings likley to be available at 26-30 (Woodard, Bey maybe Bane) so it might be wise to go small first, but the biggest team need is upfront. Thies is only under contract for 1 more year, Williams has not proven he is starter material we need to enter the season with a big whether from the draft or free agency the roster needs balancing. Even if we lose Hayward we still have Tatum, Brown, Smart and G williams on the wings, so its not like we are desperate there. I understand a Kira Lewis or Cole anthony pick at 14 if danny loves them, Kemba is not a spring chicken. If I am swinging for the Fences at 14 I like Nesmith and Precious. I could stomach Bey, don't want Hampton. I get others don't like Precious and that is fair. They are both Uber athletic for thier size and both need to work on shooting, Precious can hang his hat on Rebouding and defense until the shooting comes around. Several Mocks have him gone before we pick, so perhaps it will be moot, but there have been a couple of silly posts.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1383 » by big-shot-ROB » Sat Nov 7, 2020 12:02 pm

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Spin Move wrote:Which aspect of his game would not fit 4, he has great speed for a big, he had no problem switching onto gaurds in college?


I think his lack of spacing would create issues next to a 5.

Not if the 5's can shoot threes, he is not a horrible shooter he made over 30% on over a 3 a game in memphis last season in a couple of years he should develop an Aaron Baynes level of 3 point shooting.


He is a horrible shooter. He will not shoot Bayne's percentage in two years. Right now on offense he's a roller and putback guy. You do not want him at the 4, he can't do anything else right now. Williams is a more instinctive roller, a way better vertical threat and has great passing ability and vision.

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Post#1384 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Nov 7, 2020 12:31 pm

Precious is the same height as RWIII, has a worse wingspan and reach, has worse athleticism, less skill and a worse BBIQ. I dont get the fascination other than wanting a new, worse player cuz he has the ‘new pick shine’ to him.
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Post#1385 » by 31to6 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 12:35 pm

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snowman wrote:Precious hit a TOTAL of 13 threes last season, at the college distance. I just don't see it at 14. Maybe 26 or 30, but not 14. We already have Timelord. Now if Timelord is going in a trade for someone else, then maybe, but still at 26 not 14. Rather have Oturu. He has a better shot from distance, and a better rebounder and shot blocker.


Precious also shot 40-something % from the line. I’m fine if we like him I guess but I see a lot of putback layups in his highlights, doesn’t seem as explosive an athlete as Jalen Smith or Paul Reed, and I may like Oturu and Nnaji better as well. But whatever as long as we get a 4/5 prospect with legitimate size to go along with whichever combo guard(s) we overdraft.


That is not correct your confusing him with some of the other bigs, he shot basically 60% from the line. He is a better athlete then anyone you mentioned, not saying he should be our pick but if we are talking pure athleticism from bigs only Okungwu has his number in this draft.

He has some skills that are very good got his size like ball handeling ability to switch but his shooting is a question mark, he shot really badly on contested jumpers, but again he is not a non shooter and given time to work may become a good shooter multiple draft sites like his shooting form. I go back and forth between whether I like him or smith better, Smith is the better scorer and shooter (not scorer) and shot blocker Precios is the better driver and ball handler and is stronger and faster. Smith has more skill Precious more upside. If we are going big at 14 they are the 2 real choices there. Smith has his own bust possibility due to his thin legs, he won't be able to add weight like Precious should be able to.

Waiting till 26 is a possiblity, I really like Oturu, I think Paul reed is a solid guy at 26 and 30 but both of those players have limited upside. Oturu likely won't be that switchable (He can probably switch onto slower wings but not fast guards despite his good athleticism testing). There are interesting prospects like Nnaji and Azabukie and Carey that are each limited but have potential to do certain things well.

Switchable big rankings
1. Okongwu
2. Wiseman
3. Precious
4. Reed
5. Nnaji

I don't have a problem with anyone saying that Precious is not there guy at 14 (I would rather we drafted Nesmith there then a big) but saying he is not uber athletic or has potential is silly. Others have put it well its hard to improve as a shooter, most don't but Precious could be an all star if he does because he has the rebounding ability and defensive potential to be more then just a role player. He has the highest upside of any big at 14. I think his floor is low. Depends on how risk averse you are and where you prioritize. I think if Nesmith is there you take Nesmith, but if he is not I look very hard at Precious and Smith. There are fewer interesting wings likley to be available at 26-30 (Woodard, Bey maybe Bane) so it might be wise to go small first, but the biggest team need is upfront. Thies is only under contract for 1 more year, Williams has not proven he is starter material we need to enter the season with a big whether from the draft or free agency the roster needs balancing. Even if we lose Hayward we still have Tatum, Brown, Smart and G williams on the wings, so its not like we are desperate there. I understand a Kira Lewis or Cole anthony pick at 14 if danny loves them, Kemba is not a spring chicken. If I am swinging for the Fences at 14 I like Nesmith and Precious. I could stomach Bey, don't want Hampton. I get others don't like Precious and that is fair. They are both Uber athletic for thier size and both need to work on shooting, Precious can hang his hat on Rebouding and defense until the shooting comes around. Several Mocks have him gone before we pick, so perhaps it will be moot, but there have been a couple of silly posts.


You’re right, Precious shot 60% from the line, not sure what I thought I’d seen earlier: http://www.tankathon.com/players/precious-achiuwa

I appreciate Precious’ wingspan, coordination, and switch ability, and that may be enough to make him the pick. I don’t see the “explosive” part — watching his highlights I’m waiting to be impressed and it doesn’t happen, but there’s more to the game than that and we’ve got Robert W. to make Scal go “oh MY GOD”.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1386 » by neno » Sat Nov 7, 2020 4:31 pm

While younger (3 months) I cannot see precious ahead of Reed
Precious isn't even the best athlete at his position nevermind most skilled, youngest etc Paul Reed seems tobe the more advanced basketball player and no slouch athleticism either
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Post#1387 » by AgentGreen » Sat Nov 7, 2020 5:00 pm

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Wouldn't mind him with our 26th or 30th pick, if he's still there.
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Post#1388 » by JHTruth » Sat Nov 7, 2020 6:10 pm

neno wrote:While younger (3 months) I cannot see precious ahead of Reed
Precious isn't even the best athlete at his position nevermind most skilled, youngest etc Paul Reed seems tobe the more advanced basketball player and no slouch athleticism either


I'd take Reed over Precious all day but what do I know. I LOVE Reed. I think he's going to be a stud but everyone has him in the second round. Oh well..
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Post#1389 » by JHTruth » Sat Nov 7, 2020 6:13 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Precious is the same height as RWIII, has a worse wingspan and reach, has worse athleticism, less skill and a worse BBIQ. I dont get the fascination other than wanting a new, worse player cuz he has the ‘new pick shine’ to him.


That's what it boils down to. All we've seen is highlight videos of Precious dunking on guys who will never sniff the GLeague never mind the NBA so everyone thinks he will be "better" than RWill. No one has watched him blow multiple assignments on the same possession or go 1-9 from 3.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1390 » by Half-Full » Sat Nov 7, 2020 6:14 pm

Spin Move wrote:
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snowman wrote:Precious hit a TOTAL of 13 threes last season, at the college distance. I just don't see it at 14. Maybe 26 or 30, but not 14. We already have Timelord. Now if Timelord is going in a trade for someone else, then maybe, but still at 26 not 14. Rather have Oturu. He has a better shot from distance, and a better rebounder and shot blocker.


Precious also shot 40-something % from the line. I’m fine if we like him I guess but I see a lot of putback layups in his highlights, doesn’t seem as explosive an athlete as Jalen Smith or Paul Reed, and I may like Oturu and Nnaji better as well. But whatever as long as we get a 4/5 prospect with legitimate size to go along with whichever combo guard(s) we overdraft.


That is not correct your confusing him with some of the other bigs, he shot basically 60% from the line. He is a better athlete then anyone you mentioned, not saying he should be our pick but if we are talking pure athleticism from bigs only Okungwu has his number in this draft.

He has some skills that are very good got his size like ball handeling ability to switch but his shooting is a question mark, he shot really badly on contested jumpers, but again he is not a non shooter and given time to work may become a good shooter multiple draft sites like his shooting form. I go back and forth between whether I like him or smith better, Smith is the better scorer and shooter (not scorer) and shot blocker Precios is the better driver and ball handler and is stronger and faster. Smith has more skill Precious more upside. If we are going big at 14 they are the 2 real choices there. Smith has his own bust possibility due to his thin legs, he won't be able to add weight like Precious should be able to.

Waiting till 26 is a possiblity, I really like Oturu, I think Paul reed is a solid guy at 26 and 30 but both of those players have limited upside. Oturu likely won't be that switchable (He can probably switch onto slower wings but not fast guards despite his good athleticism testing). There are interesting prospects like Nnaji and Azabukie and Carey that are each limited but have potential to do certain things well.

Switchable big rankings
1. Okongwu
2. Wiseman
3. Precious
4. Reed
5. Nnaji



Surprised that Xavier Tillman doesn't make it into your top five ranking of switchable bigs. He is a very good defender, and just displayed some shooting skills in combine workouts.

https://saturdaytradition.com/michigan-state-football/former-michigan-state-stars-cassius-winston-and-xavier-tillman-post-elite-shooting-numbers-at-nba-combine/

As far as ability to switch on defense, I think he's generally considered very good, though at 6'8" he might have his problems with Embiid, Jokic, or Anthony Davis (who doesn't?), but against Bam Adebayo? I think he could match up well there. He is ideally a PF, but could certainly handle the center position in small ball lineups. In addition to his basketball skills, he is reported to be a team first player, good locker room glue guy.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1391 » by djFan71 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 6:29 pm

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neno wrote:While younger (3 months) I cannot see precious ahead of Reed
Precious isn't even the best athlete at his position nevermind most skilled, youngest etc Paul Reed seems tobe the more advanced basketball player and no slouch athleticism either


I'd take Reed over Precious all day but what do I know. I LOVE Reed. I think he's going to be a stud but everyone has him in the second round. Oh well..

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Post#1392 » by djFan71 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 6:33 pm

Weekly trade-down post. Assuming we strike out at moving up to Hali or either O:

14 for 25 & best of OKC's non-lotto 21 firsts.

Skip the PGs and walk away with Reed, Woodard and a 3rd guy of your choice and another first next year - and a thread to watch it.
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Post#1393 » by themoneyteam2 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 7:11 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Precious is the same height as RWIII, has a worse wingspan and reach, has worse athleticism, less skill and a worse BBIQ. I dont get the fascination other than wanting a new, worse player cuz he has the ‘new pick shine’ to him.


Ehh I think Precious is more athletic than Timelord. He moves like a guard and is much more mobile on defense being able to switch onto guards.

Worse BBIQ for sure and measurements. Not sure about skill since Precious seems more skilled especially in HS playing on the wing. Timelord is strictly a rim runner and always has been.

But overall I agree would rather go somewhere else at 14
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Post#1394 » by threrf23 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 7:12 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Precious is the same height as RWIII, has a worse wingspan and reach, has worse athleticism, less skill and a worse BBIQ. I dont get the fascination other than wanting a new, worse player cuz he has the ‘new pick shine’ to him.


I'm not claiming to be a scout or anything, but from my vantage point Precious appears to be a more versatile defender if not a better defender, and a more tireless rebounder if not a guy who consistently stays focused and boxes out. He also shows better upside as a ballhandler and as an outside shooter.

Timelord's raw upside was never a question, but scouts questioned his focus and his motor and his drive and noted that he would find himself out of position defensively. Scouts like Precious because he is high motor and shows glimpses of being a leader on the court.

Precious' strengths:

Strengths

Positional size and athleticism for his size

Strength and coordination

Plays with intensity and hits the boards hard – gets a lot of second chance points off offensive rebounds

Above the rim ability – a great dunker who can finish with power

Has decent mechanics on his jumper and a smooth release out to college 3 and beyond (although outside shooting is not yet a strength)

Has good handles and ability to drive the ball to the rim – handles well in traffic

A high level shot blocker for his position

Defensive versatility – can guard 2-4


Timelord's weaknesses:

Weaknesses
Very raw on the offensive end, with a lot of development left to do before he becomes an NBA level player.

Must improve his touch around the rim and refine his post-up game. Doesn’t have a go-to move in the post and does most of his scoring on dunks. Lacks consistency on his jumper and isn’t much of a threat outside of 15 feet.

Doesn’t have great handles and needs to do a better job of catching the ball and protecting it in traffic. Too turnover prone.

Can get out of position defensively and lacks fundamentals. Doesn’t box out well and relies on his length and athleticism. Sometimes seems lost on the court and not fully engaged in the action.


Hasn’t shown the improvements you’d expect after his Freshman year. Is still a work in progress.


https://nbadraftroom.com/p/precious-achiuwa/

https://nbadraftroom.com/robert-williams-nba-draft-scouting-report/
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Post#1395 » by Bluewhale » Sat Nov 7, 2020 7:29 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Precious is the same height as RWIII, has a worse wingspan and reach, has worse athleticism, less skill and a worse BBIQ. I dont get the fascination other than wanting a new, worse player cuz he has the ‘new pick shine’ to him.

Because Timelord was not healthy?

I love Timelord but it’s hard to expect him to play 70+ games at 30+ minutes.

You always need another switchable Big and Precious could be the one.

Precious and Patrick Williams are my pick at 14
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Post#1396 » by Bleeding Green » Sat Nov 7, 2020 7:55 pm

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everyone except Tatum, Smart, Hayward and Jaylen. None of the rest can guard their position at a high level let alone multiple positions.

Do people really think Grant, Theis, Timelord and Wanamaker are poor defenders now? Or that Langford wasn't fantastic by rookie defensive standards? The Celtics weren't third in the NBA in defense in the regular season, second in the playoffs by mistake. The only below-average defender on the team is Walker.
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Post#1397 » by Patsfan1081 » Sat Nov 7, 2020 8:01 pm

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:Precious is the same height as RWIII, has a worse wingspan and reach, has worse athleticism, less skill and a worse BBIQ. I dont get the fascination other than wanting a new, worse player cuz he has the ‘new pick shine’ to him.


That's what it boils down to. All we've seen is highlight videos of Precious dunking on guys who will never sniff the GLeague never mind the NBA so everyone thinks he will be "better" than RWill. No one has watched him blow multiple assignments on the same possession or go 1-9 from 3.


They aren’t close to being the same player, not sure where you get going 1-9 from either since he’s never taken more than 5 threes or been a volume shooter. I watched a couple Memphis games this past season, never saw him blow multiple defensive assignments. As for his comps to Williams, his height is where it ends. Precious has a much better motor and is more aggressive. He has a lot better handles and a quicker first step/lateral movement enables him to guard smaller guys.
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Post#1398 » by playa-hater » Sat Nov 7, 2020 8:53 pm

threrf23 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Precious is the same height as RWIII, has a worse wingspan and reach, has worse athleticism, less skill and a worse BBIQ. I dont get the fascination other than wanting a new, worse player cuz he has the ‘new pick shine’ to him.


I'm not claiming to be a scout or anything, but from my vantage point Precious appears to be a more versatile defender if not a better defender, and a more tireless rebounder if not a guy who consistently stays focused and boxes out. He also shows better upside as a ballhandler and as an outside shooter.

Timelord's raw upside was never a question, but scouts questioned his focus and his motor and his drive and noted that he would find himself out of position defensively. Scouts like Precious because he is high motor and shows glimpses of being a leader on the court.

Precious' strengths:

Strengths

Positional size and athleticism for his size

Strength and coordination

Plays with intensity and hits the boards hard – gets a lot of second chance points off offensive rebounds

Above the rim ability – a great dunker who can finish with power

Has decent mechanics on his jumper and a smooth release out to college 3 and beyond (although outside shooting is not yet a strength)

Has good handles and ability to drive the ball to the rim – handles well in traffic

A high level shot blocker for his position

Defensive versatility – can guard 2-4


Timelord's weaknesses:

Weaknesses
Very raw on the offensive end, with a lot of development left to do before he becomes an NBA level player.

Must improve his touch around the rim and refine his post-up game. Doesn’t have a go-to move in the post and does most of his scoring on dunks. Lacks consistency on his jumper and isn’t much of a threat outside of 15 feet.

Doesn’t have great handles and needs to do a better job of catching the ball and protecting it in traffic. Too turnover prone.

Can get out of position defensively and lacks fundamentals. Doesn’t box out well and relies on his length and athleticism. Sometimes seems lost on the court and not fully engaged in the action.


Hasn’t shown the improvements you’d expect after his Freshman year. Is still a work in progress.


https://nbadraftroom.com/p/precious-achiuwa/

https://nbadraftroom.com/robert-williams-nba-draft-scouting-report/


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Post#1399 » by playa-hater » Sat Nov 7, 2020 8:56 pm

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:Precious is the same height as RWIII, has a worse wingspan and reach, has worse athleticism, less skill and a worse BBIQ. I dont get the fascination other than wanting a new, worse player cuz he has the ‘new pick shine’ to him.

Because Timelord was not healthy?

I love Timelord but it’s hard to expect him to play 70+ games at 30+ minutes.

You always need another switchable Big and Precious could be the one.

Precious and Patrick Williams are my pick at 14


Me me too with Nesmith and S Bey..give me.one of these 4 and I would be so happy
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1400 » by playa-hater » Sat Nov 7, 2020 8:59 pm

BTW I love everything about Paul Reed' And would love him at 26. But my only concern with Paul Reed over Precious His that he needs to be physically bigger and stronger To battle against some of the centers in the league. In time he will be good.
2 things need to go.. my lack of spell check and Joe.. :nod:

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