Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[Prokorov]

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That's basically what I proposed months ago...

this would be an absolute steal.

[vincecarter4pres]

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That's basically what I proposed months ago...

this would be an absolute steal.

Idk about a steal, but it would be fair value. Many teams in the league and the Nets seem to value Caris pretty damn highly.

[MrDollarBills]

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LeVert, Prince, #19 works. I would toss in one of our 2nd round picks as well. I don't go any further than that offer.

[TheNetsFan]

If LeVert were offered, Temple is the filler. Musa wouldn't be required, but I think we'll try to find a way to offload his salary and free up the roster spot for a vet.

That being said, I still think the Nets are more likely to attempt to trade Dinwiddie & extra picks before trading LeVert, given that I don't expect Dinwiddie to be with the team in '21-'22. I'd feel better about dealing LeVert if Holiday agreed to pick up his option. I don't like the idea of giving up a good cost controlled player, and leaving ourselves with little leverage in negotiations with Holiday/Dinwiddie next year.

[vincecarter4pres]

If LeVert were offered, Temple is the filler. Musa wouldn't be required, but I think we'll try to find a way to offload his salary and free up the roster spot for a vet.

That being said, I still think the Nets are more likely to attempt to trade Dinwiddie & extra picks before trading LeVert, given that I don't expect Dinwiddie to be with the team in '21-'22. I'd feel better about dealing LeVert if Holiday agreed to pick up his option. I don't like the idea of giving up a good cost controlled player, and leaving ourselves with little leverage in negotiations with Holiday/Dinwiddie next year.

Rumors are Temple's option is going to be declined. Doubt Tsai gets cheap, but that tax bill is going to be crazy and Temple is an easy way to cut a big chunk of it and ease the blow of re-signing Harris to a big deal. Have to imagine they'd try to make Prince the salary filler even if it meant adding an additional 1st.

[TheNetsFan]

If LeVert were offered, Temple is the filler. Musa wouldn't be required, but I think we'll try to find a way to offload his salary and free up the roster spot for a vet.

That being said, I still think the Nets are more likely to attempt to trade Dinwiddie & extra picks before trading LeVert, given that I don't expect Dinwiddie to be with the team in '21-'22. I'd feel better about dealing LeVert if Holiday agreed to pick up his option. I don't like the idea of giving up a good cost controlled player, and leaving ourselves with little leverage in negotiations with Holiday/Dinwiddie next year.

Rumors are Temple's option is going to be declined. Doubt Tsai gets cheap, but that tax bill is going to be crazy and Temple is an easy way to cut a big chunk of it and ease the blow of re-signing Harris to a big deal. Have to imagine they'd try to make Prince the salary filler even if it meant adding an additional 1st.

Temple will be declined unless his salary is needed as an expiring filler. It doesn't make sense for us to pick up his team option for $5mil otherwise, because his marker is probably less than (or equal) to that. We could always sign him back after declining him.

Temple is also a NOLA native. That may or may not be worth something to the Pelicans.

[vincecarter4pres]

If LeVert were offered, Temple is the filler. Musa wouldn't be required, but I think we'll try to find a way to offload his salary and free up the roster spot for a vet.

That being said, I still think the Nets are more likely to attempt to trade Dinwiddie & extra picks before trading LeVert, given that I don't expect Dinwiddie to be with the team in '21-'22. I'd feel better about dealing LeVert if Holiday agreed to pick up his option. I don't like the idea of giving up a good cost controlled player, and leaving ourselves with little leverage in negotiations with Holiday/Dinwiddie next year.

Rumors are Temple's option is going to be declined. Doubt Tsai gets cheap, but that tax bill is going to be crazy and Temple is an easy way to cut a big chunk of it and ease the blow of re-signing Harris to a big deal. Have to imagine they'd try to make Prince the salary filler even if it meant adding an additional 1st.

Temple will be declined unless his salary is needed as an expiring filler. It doesn't make sense for us to pick up his team option for $5mil otherwise, because his marker is probably less than (or equal) to that. We could always sign him back after declining him.

Temple is also a NOLA native. That may or may not be worth something to the Pelicans.

I think as fans we see Temple as the perfect salary filler and a lot of years he would be. Tsai seems like he's going to spend as well. But with the pandemic and with the cap and the tax bill, in the real world even Tsai will probably have limits. If a Jrue deal was on the verge of going down, if the Pels would take Prince as the filler instead of Temple, but it meant we had to add a lightly protected '21 pick, or a reasonably protected further future one, I'm guessing Tsai is going to say, send them Prince.

[TheNetsFan]

What is everyone's thoughts on Rubio? He's a bit pricey, but at least locked in for less than what Dinwiddie is likely to get next offseason. I also like his more well rounded/better defensive game as a fit with Kyrie, KD & LeVert. I could see a Rubio for Dinwiddie+Musa(filler) deal helping both teams. I feel like we may be able to swing a pick swap in the deal as well, especially if the Suns are trying to maximize cap space this year or next year.

[MrDollarBills]

If LeVert were offered, Temple is the filler. Musa wouldn't be required, but I think we'll try to find a way to offload his salary and free up the roster spot for a vet.

That being said, I still think the Nets are more likely to attempt to trade Dinwiddie & extra picks before trading LeVert, given that I don't expect Dinwiddie to be with the team in '21-'22. I'd feel better about dealing LeVert if Holiday agreed to pick up his option. I don't like the idea of giving up a good cost controlled player, and leaving ourselves with little leverage in negotiations with Holiday/Dinwiddie next year.

I see your point, but unless the team who wants him needs salary relief, I don't see why they would prefer Dinwiddie over LeVert.

[TheNetsFan]

Rumors are Temple's option is going to be declined. Doubt Tsai gets cheap, but that tax bill is going to be crazy and Temple is an easy way to cut a big chunk of it and ease the blow of re-signing Harris to a big deal. Have to imagine they'd try to make Prince the salary filler even if it meant adding an additional 1st.

Temple will be declined unless his salary is needed as an expiring filler. It doesn't make sense for us to pick up his team option for $5mil otherwise, because his marker is probably less than (or equal) to that. We could always sign him back after declining him.

Temple is also a NOLA native. That may or may not be worth something to the Pelicans.

I think as fans we see Temple as the perfect salary filler and a lot of years he would be. Tsai seems like he's going to spend as well. But with the pandemic and with the cap and the tax bill, in the real world even Tsai will probably have limits. If a Jrue deal was on the verge of going down, if the Pels would take Prince as the filler instead of Temple, but it meant we had to add a lightly protected '21 pick, or a reasonably protected further future one, I'm guessing Tsai is going to say, send them Prince.

We don't yet know what the league plans to do with the tax revenue. The rules around the luxury tax are simply that UP TO 50% of the revenue can be given to tax paying teams, with the remaining tax revenue being used for "league purposes" which can include refunding the tax payers. Given that the tax threshold is coming in far below previous projections, I'd be surprised if the league does not offer tax payers some level of relief. For all we know, the league has told owners of its plan for the tax revenue already in order to get agreement on the flat cap & tax threshold.

[TheNetsFan]

If LeVert were offered, Temple is the filler. Musa wouldn't be required, but I think we'll try to find a way to offload his salary and free up the roster spot for a vet.

That being said, I still think the Nets are more likely to attempt to trade Dinwiddie & extra picks before trading LeVert, given that I don't expect Dinwiddie to be with the team in '21-'22. I'd feel better about dealing LeVert if Holiday agreed to pick up his option. I don't like the idea of giving up a good cost controlled player, and leaving ourselves with little leverage in negotiations with Holiday/Dinwiddie next year.

I see your point, but unless the team who wants him needs salary relief, I don't see why they would prefer Dinwiddie over LeVert.

They wouldn't, which is why I say the Nets would have to throw in extra picks. On the Lowe Post podcast, Lowe & Marks agreed that nobody really knows what the Pels are looking for, i.e. better current players or just a bounty of picks and rookie deals.

[Papi_swav]

So would we rather trade Dinwiddie or Levert for Jrue? Dinwiddie only has 1 year left and most likely is bouncing next year. While Levert is on contract for a few more years. I like both of those guys alot so I can't really choose. If it's Dinwiddie then we would have to add Prince salary, if it's Levert then I think we can just add Temple and Musa . Which one do you guys want to keep more?

[TheNetsFan]

So would we rather trade Dinwiddie or Levert for Jrue? Dinwiddie only has 1 year left and most likely is bouncing next year. While Levert is on contract for a few more years. I like both of those guys alot so I can't really choose. If it's Dinwiddie then we would have to add Prince salary, if it's Levert then I think we can just add Temple and Musa . Which one do you guys want to keep more?

Dinwiddie. I'm a believer that Dinwiddie leaves after this season for a starting job & a on of money. In that scenario, after 1 year, you've lost both LeVert & Dinwiddie for a probably overpaid (next contract) Jrue, and that's unacceptable in my opinion.

[DarkXaero]

So would we rather trade Dinwiddie or Levert for Jrue? Dinwiddie only has 1 year left and most likely is bouncing next year. While Levert is on contract for a few more years. I like both of those guys alot so I can't really choose. If it's Dinwiddie then we would have to add Prince salary, if it's Levert then I think we can just add Temple and Musa . Which one do you guys want to keep more?

Levert. Dinwiddie is currently the better player/better fit while being very durable compared to Levert, although Levert is slightly younger, has more upside, and locked for 3 years. But too many people assuming that Dinwiddie will just bounce after this coming season, when his serious comments suggest otherwise.

[drchaos]

So would we rather trade Dinwiddie or Levert for Jrue? Dinwiddie only has 1 year left and most likely is bouncing next year. While Levert is on contract for a few more years. I like both of those guys alot so I can't really choose. If it's Dinwiddie then we would have to add Prince salary, if it's Levert then I think we can just add Temple and Musa . Which one do you guys want to keep more?

Levert. Dinwiddie is currently the better player/better fit while being very durable compared to Levert, although Levert is slightly younger, has more upside, and locked for 3 years. But too many people assuming that Dinwiddie will just bounce after this coming season, when his serious comments suggest otherwise.

Levert is the player we have on an affordable contract.

After we pay Joe Harris do we really expect to get a home town discount from Spencer?

If he has another good year I see us losing the bidding war at the end of next season.

[DarkXaero]

So would we rather trade Dinwiddie or Levert for Jrue? Dinwiddie only has 1 year left and most likely is bouncing next year. While Levert is on contract for a few more years. I like both of those guys alot so I can't really choose. If it's Dinwiddie then we would have to add Prince salary, if it's Levert then I think we can just add Temple and Musa . Which one do you guys want to keep more?

Levert. Dinwiddie is currently the better player/better fit while being very durable compared to Levert, although Levert is slightly younger, has more upside, and locked for 3 years. But too many people assuming that Dinwiddie will just bounce after this coming season, when his serious comments suggest otherwise.

Levert is the player we have on an affordable contract.

After we pay Joe Harris do we really expect to get a home town discount from Spencer?

If he has another good year I see us losing the bidding war at the end of next season.

Dinwiddie gave us a discount last time, I hope y'all realize that. What evidence is there that it can't happen again? There's no doubt that the market will be competitive for Dinwiddie in 2021 FA but if he wants to be here, and Tsai is willing to pay, then I'd rather keep Dinwiddie and trade Levert.

[TheNetsFan]

Levert. Dinwiddie is currently the better player/better fit while being very durable compared to Levert, although Levert is slightly younger, has more upside, and locked for 3 years. But too many people assuming that Dinwiddie will just bounce after this coming season, when his serious comments suggest otherwise.

Levert is the player we have on an affordable contract.

After we pay Joe Harris do we really expect to get a home town discount from Spencer?

If he has another good year I see us losing the bidding war at the end of next season.

Dinwiddie gave us a discount last time, I hope y'all realize that. What evidence is there that it can't happen again? There's no doubt that the market will be competitive for Dinwiddie in 2021 FA but if he wants to be here, and Tsai is willing to pay, then I'd rather keep Dinwiddie and trade Levert.

Dinwiddie did not give us a discount last time. He opted to take the security of guaranteed money on an extension as soon as he could instead of getting more in free agency. The decision was understandable given he had earned peanuts before that. He also knew one significant injury at that point probably meant being much closer to the minimum again.

Given that he's been underpaid and will be relegated to a backup role here, it's reasonable to assume that he'll seek the highest pay day and/or a starting job.

[DarkXaero]

Levert is the player we have on an affordable contract.

After we pay Joe Harris do we really expect to get a home town discount from Spencer?

If he has another good year I see us losing the bidding war at the end of next season.

Dinwiddie gave us a discount last time, I hope y'all realize that. What evidence is there that it can't happen again? There's no doubt that the market will be competitive for Dinwiddie in 2021 FA but if he wants to be here, and Tsai is willing to pay, then I'd rather keep Dinwiddie and trade Levert.

Dinwiddie did not give us a discount last time. He opted to take the security of guaranteed money on an extension as soon as he could instead of getting more in free agency. The decision was understandable given he had earned peanuts before that. He also knew one significant injury at that point probably meant being much closer to the minimum again.

Given that he's been underpaid and will be relegated to a backup role here, it's reasonable to assume that he'll seek the highest pay day and/or a starting job.

This is not true, he would have gotten more in free agency but he signed an extension with us early. (there was also a NBA imposed limit to how much we could offer him on an extension)

On the extension he signed in 2018, Dinwiddie said that if "everything goes to ****," as he put it, his family would be fine. Besides, he wanted to be in a winning situation and in a spot he liked. "There's a mental health aspect to this stuff," Dinwiddie said: It's a great city, and he likes going to work here. The Nets couldn't have offered him a penny more at the time.

"If it was about just getting the maximum dollar, I'd have took $70 million, went to a bad team and got my head cracked every time," Dinwiddie said. "But it's about more than that."

I recall reading more about where he talked about that he could have waited till summer to take more, but he wanted to stay here, however I can't find those interviews right now.

[TheNetsFan]

Dinwiddie gave us a discount last time, I hope y'all realize that. What evidence is there that it can't happen again? There's no doubt that the market will be competitive for Dinwiddie in 2021 FA but if he wants to be here, and Tsai is willing to pay, then I'd rather keep Dinwiddie and trade Levert.

Dinwiddie did not give us a discount last time. He opted to take the security of guaranteed money on an extension as soon as he could instead of getting more in free agency. The decision was understandable given he had earned peanuts before that. He also knew one significant injury at that point probably meant being much closer to the minimum again.

Given that he's been underpaid and will be relegated to a backup role here, it's reasonable to assume that he'll seek the highest pay day and/or a starting job.

This is not true, he would have gotten more in free agency but he signed an extension with us early. (there was also a NBA imposed limit to how much we could offer him on an extension)

On the extension he signed in 2018, Dinwiddie said that if "everything goes to ****," as he put it, his family would be fine. Besides, he wanted to be in a winning situation and in a spot he liked. "There's a mental health aspect to this stuff," Dinwiddie said: It's a great city, and he likes going to work here. The Nets couldn't have offered him a penny more at the time.

"If it was about just getting the maximum dollar, I'd have took $70 million, went to a bad team and got my head cracked every time," Dinwiddie said. "But it's about more than that."

I recall reading more about where he talked about that he could have waited till summer to take more, but he wanted to stay here, however I can't find those interviews right now.

What's not true? He opted for the peace of mind by signing for the most he could get on an early extension, rather than rolling the dice on making it to FA healthy. If he could have gotten more on the extension, he would've asked for & taken more. He took the max $34.4mil extension, not as a discount, but as a security blanket.

[MrDollarBills]

Dinwiddie did not give us a discount last time. He opted to take the security of guaranteed money on an extension as soon as he could instead of getting more in free agency. The decision was understandable given he had earned peanuts before that. He also knew one significant injury at that point probably meant being much closer to the minimum again.

Given that he's been underpaid and will be relegated to a backup role here, it's reasonable to assume that he'll seek the highest pay day and/or a starting job.

This is not true, he would have gotten more in free agency but he signed an extension with us early. (there was also a NBA imposed limit to how much we could offer him on an extension)

On the extension he signed in 2018, Dinwiddie said that if "everything goes to ****," as he put it, his family would be fine. Besides, he wanted to be in a winning situation and in a spot he liked. "There's a mental health aspect to this stuff," Dinwiddie said: It's a great city, and he likes going to work here. The Nets couldn't have offered him a penny more at the time.

"If it was about just getting the maximum dollar, I'd have took $70 million, went to a bad team and got my head cracked every time," Dinwiddie said. "But it's about more than that."

I recall reading more about where he talked about that he could have waited till summer to take more, but he wanted to stay here, however I can't find those interviews right now.

What's not true? He opted for the peace of mind by signing for the most he could get on an early extension, rather than rolling the dice on making it to FA healthy. If he could have gotten more on the extension, he would've asked for & taken more. He took the max $34.4mil extension, not as a discount, but as a security blanket.

and it was a smart move. he ended up being set for life, and in the interim increased his value so his next contract will definitely be $18 mil and upwards.

Feasibly, the Nets most likely can't keep him after we resign Joe, and then there's the whole Allen problem.