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Post#1841 » by HIF » Sun Nov 8, 2020 12:50 pm

You could be 3 clear or down in 4th.
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Post#1842 » by aggerrard » Sun Nov 8, 2020 1:30 pm

I'd take a draw today. Jota or Firmino or both? I think Klopp chooses this lineup:

Allison
Trent - Matip - Gomez - Robbo
Keita - Hendo - Gini
Salah - Bobby - Mane

Keita, Jones, Bobby and Jota in play for two positions IMO. Maybe Milner aswell.
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Post#1843 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:31 pm

Gomez goes down. Now Salah has Covid. :(

Don't know what they're gonna do at CB. Thankfully City have struggled themselves, and no one has really taken hold so far, for this season could be slipping away.
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Post#1844 » by HIF » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:13 pm

Everyone has injury problems and covid cases. At least Liverpool have the money and status to get whatever players they want.
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Post#1845 » by KG Leonard » Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:48 pm

HIF wrote:Everyone has injury problems and covid cases. At least Liverpool have the money and status to get whatever players they want.
Covid is temporary, both Zlatan,Ronaldo came back weeks after to play as well as before.
Liverpool has terrible injuries,long term knee injuries on their best CB Van Dijk, Gomes. Fabinho,Arnold,Thiago is shorter injuries but hardly bench players. They don't have limitless City money to buy 70 mill euro defender in Covid economy world.

Lucky for them City is struggling, Tottenham, Aston Villa,Leicester is hardly to catch up to.
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Post#1846 » by KG Leonard » Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:56 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.goal.com/en-kw/amp/news/jurgen-klopp-liverpool-throw-money-away-transfer-window/k50t7v8qigd31wx9ym24x54bd



He added: "This club, since I am here, and before, spends what we earn. That was always the case. I don't know why this is so surprising now, it's nothing new."

Shocking in todays club football World where fans expect money for transfers grow on the trees, is always available and expecting every team has deep pockets owners like Chelsea, City, PSG or are richest in income like Real, Manchester United.....
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Post#1847 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:07 pm

HIF wrote:Everyone has injury problems and covid cases. At least Liverpool have the money and status to get whatever players they want.

Not every club is missing someone like the quality of Van Dijk. Their backline has been hit extremely hard (VVD, AA, Gomez). Both VD & Gomez are likely done for the season. Everyone knows that VD is irreplaceable. It's not something you can fix. Alexander Arnold will be out for at least a month or so. That's three starters out for significant time. Only one healthy CB. As far as I know, you can't buy anyone from now until the January transfer window?
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Post#1848 » by HIF » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:35 pm

Damn KG and Cactus Jack,

you are aware that Leicester have more important players out than Liverpool aren't you? And they have a far smaller talent pool.

Our whole back line is out and our defensive midfielder.
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Post#1849 » by KG Leonard » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:24 am

HIF wrote:Damn KG and Cactus Jack,

you are aware that Leicester have more important players out than Liverpool aren't you? And they have a far smaller talent pool.

Our whole back line is out and our defensive midfielder.
I see what you mean and fully understand smaller club, less talent in the squad for team like Leicester means bigger problem. You dont have Fabinho level back ups. I just had a problem with the idea that Liverpool will 2 world class defenders in January.
Pool doesn't have the policy to get in debt like Barca or have never-ending transfer money like City,PSG,Chelsea.

Also its all relative,different level of expectation for Liverpool. Despite injuries they are expected to win PL over City and dethrone Bayern as CL champions.

I rooted for Leicester to get 4th last season over horrible run club like Manchester United. I still hope underdog like that can reach top 4 with BR,the young talents,Vardy.
I truly hate seeing badly run rich clubs getting to CL,failing their way to the top!
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Post#1850 » by HIF » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:15 pm

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That would be a great signing.


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Post#1851 » by aggerrard » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:12 pm

Best performance in the league this season. Could have won 5 or 6-0. Firmino should have scored one more and Mané had 3-4 decent chances.

Hopefully Keita is back again soon, but prob out for 3-4 weeks. Thiago better be back in training this week.
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Re: Official Liverpool FC Thread 

Post#1852 » by aggerrard » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:49 pm

NEW CLUB RECORD: Jonny Evans secured a new club record for Liverpool with his own goal. Liverpool have now scored in 39 consecutive home league matches.

64 - Liverpool are now unbeaten in their last 64 home games in the top-flight (W53 D11); the longest such run in the club´s history. Incredible.

30 - Diogo Jota´s goal for Liverpool came after a sequence of 30 passes; since Opta have this data available from 2006-07, this is the most in the build-up to any
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goal by the Reds.

#LIV 3-0 #LEI (via
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): Liverpool had 13 shots on target tonight - they´ve only had more in five of their previous 464 league games.

LFC have won 30 of their last 31 home games in the Premier League, and drawn the other.
91 points from 93
And won tonight with no Van Dijk, Salah, TAA, Thiago or Henderson.

Most wins in first 200 competitive appearances for Liverpool:

133 - GEORGINIO WIJNALDUM
131 - Alan Kennedy
126 - Gary Gillespie
123 - Steve McMahon
122 - Ian Rush
120 - Craig Johnston
120 - John Barnes

Diogo Jota is the first player to score in each of his first four home top-flight league appearances for Liverpool, and only third to do so at any league level, after Fred Geary in 1895 and David Henderson in 1893 (both in second tier).
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Post#1853 » by libertyYYZ » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:43 pm

LFC was impressive today. Their instant press on turnovers is so productive in limiting their opponents. As well, the precision in attack is a cut above the rest of the league. Well done!
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Post#1854 » by danfantastk32 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:31 am

libertyYYZ wrote:LFC was impressive today. Their instant press on turnovers is so productive in limiting their opponents. As well, the precision in attack is a cut above the rest of the league. Well done!


Yeah, I feel like this was one of our better games in a while. Although you could see the injuries Leicester are dealing with made their back lines look like amateurs. It's a rough season for everyone. I think Liverpool have been quite lucky the last couple years with few injuries to 'key players'. VD's injury hurts bad....but it's not like this is something never seen before.
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Post#1855 » by danfantastk32 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:43 am

I would be interested, if I were Liverpool, in shopping Salah around. I'd check out what major clubs want firepower in the window, and see if we can't find someone desperate to overpay. Salah has come back to earth from a couple years back, and while I have absolutely nothing but love for the guy....in the cut-throat world of sports, I think his best days in a Liverpool uniform are past.

To be clear: I'm not saying dump the guy. Not at all. I'm saying perhaps we can oversell to someone desperate. If we can, then we might be able to sign a couple positions we need desperately. We may not be made of $$, but we're far from a small club as well. If we were able to pull off a $60-70 mill transfer fee for Salah (I don't think that's crazy)....and then throw an additional $15 - $20 mil on top, we could prob sign a couple guys. Winter transfer can be bare-bones sometimes.....but you never know.
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Post#1856 » by aggerrard » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:01 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:I would be interested, if I were Liverpool, in shopping Salah around. I'd check out what major clubs want firepower in the window, and see if we can't find someone desperate to overpay. Salah has come back to earth from a couple years back, and while I have absolutely nothing but love for the guy....in the cut-throat world of sports, I think his best days in a Liverpool uniform are past.

To be clear: I'm not saying dump the guy. Not at all. I'm saying perhaps we can oversell to someone desperate. If we can, then we might be able to sign a couple positions we need desperately. We may not be made of $$, but we're far from a small club as well. If we were able to pull off a $60-70 mill transfer fee for Salah (I don't think that's crazy)....and then throw an additional $15 - $20 mil on top, we could prob sign a couple guys. Winter transfer can be bare-bones sometimes.....but you never know.

I don't think Salah is far from his 17/18 form this season - think he's better now than the last two seasons. He is up there with the very best in the world. He is a key-player for us, and if we sell him we're back at having no options in the front. We have four now after we signed Jota, can play Firmino as the 10 - can rotate Firmino or rest Salah or Mane at certain games. We have some much needed flexibility at the top now.

No way we're selling a player of his caliber in the winter - unless someone are willing to pay 150-180m for him. I get that we slowly have to make some changes in the team to youthen the squad and stay competitive, but not in the middle of the season. Let's see how the situation are in the summer. Gini probably walks, Milner the same. Curtis had his best game against Leicester, think he can take another step next season. Ox, Shaqiri, Origi, Minamino, Wilson, Grujic - alot of players with questions about there future at Liverpool. Still think Salah is just as important, if not more important, than Mané. I wouldn't mind listening to offers on either of them this summer. If we can get 120-130m for one of them, it might be the time to sell and invest in younger players for the future. I do think we keep both of them for atleast one more season though.

My take on the squad next season:

Keeper;
Alisson
New
Kelleher

Right back;
Trent
Neco

CB;
Virgil
Matip
Gomez
New
Koumetio
Rhys

LB;
Robbo
Tsimikas

DM/CM;
Hendo
Thiago
Fabinho
Curtis
Keita
Grujic
New

OM/AT;
Mané
Salah
Jota
Firmino
New
Minamino

Players out;
Adrian, free transfer
Milner, free transfer
Gini, free transfer

Oxlade, 20m
Shaq, 10m
Origi, 10m
Wilson, 15m
Nat Phillips, 5m
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Post#1857 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:09 am

aggerrard wrote:I don't think Salah is far from his 17/18 form this season - think he's better now than the last two seasons. He is up there with the very best in the world. He is a key-player for us, and if we sell him we're back at having no options in the front. We have four now after we signed Jota, can play Firmino as the 10 - can rotate Firmino or rest Salah or Mane at certain games. We have some much needed flexibility at the top now.

No way we're selling a player of his caliber in the winter - unless someone are willing to pay 150-180m for him. I get that we slowly have to make some changes in the team to youthen the squad and stay competitive, but not in the middle of the season. Let's see how the situation are in the summer. Gini probably walks, Milner the same. Curtis had his best game against Leicester, think he can take another step next season. Ox, Shaqiri, Origi, Minamino, Wilson, Grujic - alot of players with questions about there future at Liverpool. Still think Salah is just as important, if not more important, than Mané. I wouldn't mind listening to offers on either of them this summer. If we can get 120-130m for one of them, it might be the time to sell and invest in younger players for the future. I do think we keep both of them for atleast one more season though.

My take on the squad next season:

Keeper;
Alisson
New
Kelleher

Right back;
Trent
Neco

CB;
Virgil
Matip
Gomez
New
Koumetio
Rhys

LB;
Robbo
Tsimikas

DM/CM;
Hendo
Thiago
Fabinho
Curtis
Keita
Grujic
New

OM/AT;
Mané
Salah
Jota
Firmino
New
Minamino

Players out;
Adrian, free transfer
Milner, free transfer
Gini, free transfer

Oxlade, 20m
Shaq, 10m
Origi, 10m
Wilson, 15m
Nat Phillips, 5m

It's gonna suck to see some of the guys move on (Gini, Milner).
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Post#1858 » by aggerrard » Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:19 am

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aggerrard wrote:I don't think Salah is far from his 17/18 form this season - think he's better now than the last two seasons. He is up there with the very best in the world. He is a key-player for us, and if we sell him we're back at having no options in the front. We have four now after we signed Jota, can play Firmino as the 10 - can rotate Firmino or rest Salah or Mane at certain games. We have some much needed flexibility at the top now.

No way we're selling a player of his caliber in the winter - unless someone are willing to pay 150-180m for him. I get that we slowly have to make some changes in the team to youthen the squad and stay competitive, but not in the middle of the season. Let's see how the situation are in the summer. Gini probably walks, Milner the same. Curtis had his best game against Leicester, think he can take another step next season. Ox, Shaqiri, Origi, Minamino, Wilson, Grujic - alot of players with questions about there future at Liverpool. Still think Salah is just as important, if not more important, than Mané. I wouldn't mind listening to offers on either of them this summer. If we can get 120-130m for one of them, it might be the time to sell and invest in younger players for the future. I do think we keep both of them for atleast one more season though.

My take on the squad next season:

Keeper;
Alisson
New
Kelleher

Right back;
Trent
Neco

CB;
Virgil
Matip
Gomez
New
Koumetio
Rhys

LB;
Robbo
Tsimikas

DM/CM;
Hendo
Thiago
Fabinho
Curtis
Keita
Grujic
New

OM/AT;
Mané
Salah
Jota
Firmino
New
Minamino

Players out;
Adrian, free transfer
Milner, free transfer
Gini, free transfer

Oxlade, 20m
Shaq, 10m
Origi, 10m
Wilson, 15m
Nat Phillips, 5m

It's gonna suck to see some of the guys move on (Gini, Milner).

Still discussions with Gini - but i don't think it'll happen. Very solid player and never injured.

Don't think Milner are staying another season either - but he would be quality to keep for one more season as someone who can step in and play everywhere on the pitch.
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Post#1859 » by KG Leonard » Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:17 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
aggerrard wrote:I don't think Salah is far from his 17/18 form this season - think he's better now than the last two seasons. He is up there with the very best in the world. He is a key-player for us, and if we sell him we're back at having no options in the front. We have four now after we signed Jota, can play Firmino as the 10 - can rotate Firmino or rest Salah or Mane at certain games. We have some much needed flexibility at the top now.

No way we're selling a player of his caliber in the winter - unless someone are willing to pay 150-180m for him. I get that we slowly have to make some changes in the team to youthen the squad and stay competitive, but not in the middle of the season. Let's see how the situation are in the summer. Gini probably walks, Milner the same. Curtis had his best game against Leicester, think he can take another step next season. Ox, Shaqiri, Origi, Minamino, Wilson, Grujic - alot of players with questions about there future at Liverpool. Still think Salah is just as important, if not more important, than Mané. I wouldn't mind listening to offers on either of them this summer. If we can get 120-130m for one of them, it might be the time to sell and invest in younger players for the future. I do think we keep both of them for atleast one more season though.

My take on the squad next season:

Keeper;
Alisson
New
Kelleher

Right back;
Trent
Neco

CB;
Virgil
Matip
Gomez
New
Koumetio
Rhys

LB;
Robbo
Tsimikas

DM/CM;
Hendo
Thiago
Fabinho
Curtis
Keita
Grujic
New

OM/AT;
Mané
Salah
Jota
Firmino
New
Minamino

Players out;
Adrian, free transfer
Milner, free transfer
Gini, free transfer

Oxlade, 20m
Shaq, 10m
Origi, 10m
Wilson, 15m
Nat Phillips, 5m

It's gonna suck to see some of the guys move on (Gini, Milner).


Gini is playing the best of the midfield right now,the guy bosses the midfield like prime Roy Keane but with more technical skills,box to box play. Sure he doesn't score,attack as much as in the Holland national team but its really great to see him turn away players, win balls,be totally pressing resistant. Making him sign new contract would be like a great signing. There is no pool player with his skills both defensively, offensively. Henderson is good ball winner, long passing but not nearly as strong offensively.
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Re: Official Liverpool FC Thread 

Post#1860 » by aggerrard » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:08 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:
aggerrard wrote:I don't think Salah is far from his 17/18 form this season - think he's better now than the last two seasons. He is up there with the very best in the world. He is a key-player for us, and if we sell him we're back at having no options in the front. We have four now after we signed Jota, can play Firmino as the 10 - can rotate Firmino or rest Salah or Mane at certain games. We have some much needed flexibility at the top now.

No way we're selling a player of his caliber in the winter - unless someone are willing to pay 150-180m for him. I get that we slowly have to make some changes in the team to youthen the squad and stay competitive, but not in the middle of the season. Let's see how the situation are in the summer. Gini probably walks, Milner the same. Curtis had his best game against Leicester, think he can take another step next season. Ox, Shaqiri, Origi, Minamino, Wilson, Grujic - alot of players with questions about there future at Liverpool. Still think Salah is just as important, if not more important, than Mané. I wouldn't mind listening to offers on either of them this summer. If we can get 120-130m for one of them, it might be the time to sell and invest in younger players for the future. I do think we keep both of them for atleast one more season though.

My take on the squad next season:

Keeper;
Alisson
New
Kelleher

Right back;
Trent
Neco

CB;
Virgil
Matip
Gomez
New
Koumetio
Rhys

LB;
Robbo
Tsimikas

DM/CM;
Hendo
Thiago
Fabinho
Curtis
Keita
Grujic
New

OM/AT;
Mané
Salah
Jota
Firmino
New
Minamino

Players out;
Adrian, free transfer
Milner, free transfer
Gini, free transfer

Oxlade, 20m
Shaq, 10m
Origi, 10m
Wilson, 15m
Nat Phillips, 5m

It's gonna suck to see some of the guys move on (Gini, Milner).


Gini is playing the best of the midfield right now,the guy bosses the midfield like prime Roy Keane but with more technical skills,box to box play. Sure he doesn't score,attack as much as in the Holland national team but its really great to see him turn away players, win balls,be totally pressing resistant. Making him sign new contract would be like a great signing. There is no pool player with his skills both defensively, offensively. Henderson is good ball winner, long passing but not nearly as strong offensively.

I'm not that high on Gini. What he has over any other midfielder in the club, is that he's never injured. But Gini for Holland and Gini for Liverpool are two different players. He don't give us any creativity and are very limited on offense. His tendency to take out the tempo can be key but also a hindrance, depending on the team we play. Very solid player indeed, but give me Hendo and Fabinho over Gini. If Thiago can play like he did at Bayern, i'd take him aswell.

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