Miami Heat Speculation Thread - 2020 and beyond...

[RexBoyWonder]

Trading Bam for Giannis would actually be the most aesthetically pleasing final result for the Heat moving forward. Not saying that's the route I'd go because I'd rather see Bam grow here regardless of his ceiling. However, you've upgraded to a 2 time MVP...

I'd be pretty damn aesthetically pleased watching the best and most versatile defense in the NBA with Bam and Giannis paired up together. I'd also be very pleased watching teams try to stop a Giannis-Bam pick and roll.

I'm fairly confident that Spo and the Heat org can further develop an offense and skillsets of guys like Bam, Giannis, and Jimmy to structure an extremely potent half-court offense to go along with the built-in elite transition offense that comes with having Giannis. Basically, just get each of them shooting corner 3s at a league average rate while further building on what they do well and it works beautifully.

I think any 2 of them can work well together, but the combination of all 3 - Jimmy + Bam + Giannis really doesn't leave a lot of room for shooters.

That's a big part of why I really want Herro and Duncan here long term, and why it's crucial that Jimmy finds his 3 point shot again, and that Bam at least extends his range.

[RexBoyWonder]

This is what I’m imagining based off the latest rumors

SG Herro/Nunn/(defensive guard with whatever money is left)

PG Butler/Dragic/Vincent

SF Robinson/Matthews/Hill (@vet min)

PF Crowder/Okapala/(Likely Milsap if he is willing to sign at .5MLE as rumored)

C Adebayo/Aldridge/2-way (Alexander)

So significant upgrades to our bench, but our starting units will largely be the same other than the continued development of Herro Bam and Robinson.


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I don't think Alexander stays, but I can see the Aldridge trade go down. It's a Pat type move.

I'm not a fan of old man Aldridge honestly, but if the price is really low I can see the positives - he can play Next to Bam OR behind Bam, he can probably shoot more 3's next year then he did before, and he can carry some of the offensive load.

[Bishop45]

Giannis/Bam/Jimmy would struggle to shoot 30% from three, not to mention their hesitance and inconsistency from mid; with all the talent in the league, that's a tough hurdle to jump.

Need a back-up capable of starting, and TT can board/switch on defense with some of the best still

[RexBoyWonder]

Giannis/Bam/Jimmy would struggle to shoot 30% from three, not to mention their hesitance and inconsistency from mid; with all the talent in the league, that's a tough hurdle to jump.

Need a back-up capable of starting, and TT can board/switch on defense with some of the best still

According to some we already got Tristan Thompson, his name is Bam.

But Srs, TT can help us. Good mobile defender, maybe improved some with his J...could do worse with the Bi-annual exception.

[Bishop45]

Giannis/Bam/Jimmy would struggle to shoot 30% from three, not to mention their hesitance and inconsistency from mid; with all the talent in the league, that's a tough hurdle to jump.

Need a back-up capable of starting, and TT can board/switch on defense with some of the best still

According to some we already got Tristan Thompson, his name is Bam.

But Srs, TT can help us. Good mobile defender, maybe improved some with his J...could do worse with the Bi-annual exception.

Championship pedigree. Need that vet expr. from all angles

[radikalBaller]

Reinforcement comming without affecting 2021 flexibility:

Noel, Oladipo, Bane or Reed, Mathews...

Dragic - Oladipo
Butler - Herro
Robinson - Mathews
Crowder - Iggie -Bane or Reed
Bam - Noel - Meyers

What do you think of this roster ?

Who did you trade for Dipo?

He's not coming off the bench regardless.

I don't really like the balance of this roster, super loaded in the guard/wing rotation and really weak and shallow in the power/bigs rotation.

Butler, Herro, Dipo, Duncan should all average 30+ minutes a game, when does Dragic and Mathews play?

Then you have a really weak PF spot with inconsistent Crowder, Old Iggie, and Bane who is a C,
Noel and Bam can't paly togther either,

And above all - no way we can add and pay all these guys - Bane, Crowder, Dragic, Mathews, Dipo, Myeyers...

Bane is similar to crowder strong SF/PF who can shoot and defend. If you want a big, draft Reed instead of Bane. Rookie contract at #20 should be cheap enough for a backup. We don't have to pay Meyers a ton, it is just another big assurance, if you need muscle. Dipo starting or Dragic, anyone can work. You don't have to play Bam with Noel, he would be the Backup C. You trade Olynik, KZ, Nunn, future pick for Oladipo, sounds fair...You would have a good balance of shooting and mobile defense

The big rotation would be better than what we had this year as Noel can backup bam, and we play small ball for the most of it, that is the identity of this team. If you face a big team you still have Meyers in case of emergency if you want to play him with bam. I even think Reed could play with Bam

[DayofMourning]

https://allucanheat.com/2020/11/08/miami-heat-serge-ibaka-worth-5-million/

That'd be great. We should be able to get Dragic and Crowder to sign for about $5 million a piece then as well. Add Noel at $5 million too. Still have some money left over.

[JLop]

Trading Bam for Giannis would actually be the most aesthetically pleasing final result for the Heat moving forward. Not saying that's the route I'd go because I'd rather see Bam grow here regardless of his ceiling. However, you've upgraded to a 2 time MVP...

I agree with most of your comments on a daily basis as with this one. I forgot to mention that on the upcoming season (2020-21) we can't go above the luxury tax apron or use our taxpayer mid-level exception.

[HeatIn5]

:lol:

https://allucanheat.com/2020/11/08/miami-heat-serge-ibaka-worth-5-million/

That'd be great. We should be able to get Dragic and Crowder to sign for about $5 million a piece then as well. Add Noel at $5 million too. Still have some money left over.

WOW

[Wiltside]

In what world is Ibaka getting $5m and Hassan getting $17m?

Hollinger pls

Gimme Serge though. Purely so I can see him feed Chalm some animal penis.

[DayofMourning]

Trading Bam for Giannis would actually be the most aesthetically pleasing final result for the Heat moving forward. Not saying that's the route I'd go because I'd rather see Bam grow here regardless of his ceiling. However, you've upgraded to a 2 time MVP...

I agree with most of your comments on a daily basis as with this one. I forgot to mention that on the upcoming season (2020-21) we can't go above the luxury tax apron or use our taxpayer mid-level exception.

I always appreciate your work, JLop.

Got to stay rigid on those financials. Who do you think we are pairing with Giannis?

[twix2500]

In what world is Ibaka getting $5m and Hassan getting $17m?

Hollinger pls

Gimme Serge though. Purely so I can see him feed Chalm some animal penis.

Yeah I just ignore that article

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[DayofMourning]

In what world is Ibaka getting $5m and Hassan getting $17m?

Hollinger pls

Gimme Serge though. Purely so I can see him feed Chalm some animal penis.

Hollinger is a parody of real, meaningful stats and player forecasts. His damn PER system is frustrating. I much prefer WS, VORP, BPM, RAPTOR, etc over it. I'm sure PER was used as the basis for his salary projections.

You could give me the choice of having Hassan for $5 mil and Serge for $17 mil and I'm taking Ibaka.

[wadenation305]

Imagine if bosh never got the clot issues.

Dragic, Nunn, Vincent
Butler, herro
Robinson, iggy, djj
Bosh, kz, ud, solo
Bam, Kelly, Myers, silva

[RexBoyWonder]

Imagine if bosh never got the clot issues.

Dragic, Nunn, Vincent
Butler, herro
Robinson, iggy, djj
Bosh, kz, ud, solo
Bam, Kelly, Myers, silva

The tragic thing is the way we played Bosh as a mobile outside shooting C was a head of it's time, we set a trend that the entire NBA is adopting for several years now.

Bosh was underrated as a defender and rim protector, he would be an ideal starting C these days when there aren't many massive post bigs around any more.

[wadenation305]

Imagine if bosh never got the clot issues.

Dragic, Nunn, Vincent
Butler, herro
Robinson, iggy, djj
Bosh, kz, ud, solo
Bam, Kelly, Myers, silva

The tragic thing is the way we played Bosh as a mobile outside shooting C was a head of it's time, we set a trend that the entire NBA is adopting for several years now.

Bosh was underrated as a defender and rim protector, he would be an ideal starting C these days when there aren't many massive post bigs around any more.

He would have been our Dirk to this team, would have really rounded it out for us. For as much as I ragged on spo even during the big three days, the he has done a lot that have revolutionized the NBA and this last season really came into his own, I have to give credit where credit is due. I'd wager that even an aging bosh would have mitigated Davis if not by defense (you really can't shut down AD just slow em down as much as you can), floating our offense for a few minutes at a time with his finesse play and good 3 point stroke. It really was such a tragic end to CB's career.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

Listening to 790 earlier, Zaslow was saying that we can't trade our 20th pick but we can officially trade the player once we've drafted him (on behalf of another team). If that's correct then I expect we'll know on draft night whether we're making any trades for next season...

[twix2500]

Listening to 790 earlier, Zaslow was saying that we can't trade our 20th pick but we can officially trade the player once we've drafted him (on behalf of another team). If that's correct then I expect we'll know on draft night whether we're making any trades for next season...

Yeah that is right. The NBA will not announce it. It will have to be the media stating there is a deal.

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[RonaldSeikaly]

Listening to 790 earlier, Zaslow was saying that we can't trade our 20th pick but we can officially trade the player once we've drafted him (on behalf of another team). If that's correct then I expect we'll know on draft night whether we're making any trades for next season...

Yes. This also means a prospective team has the option of backing out of the player they want isn’t there.

If there isn’t a g league this year where we can park a player, i really doubt we use the pick.


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[al bondiga]

This is what I’m imagining based off the latest rumors

SG Herro/Nunn/(defensive guard with whatever money is left)

PG Butler/Dragic/Vincent

SF Robinson/Matthews/Hill (@vet min)

PF Crowder/Okapala/(Likely Milsap if he is willing to sign at .5MLE as rumored)

C Adebayo/Aldridge/2-way (Alexander)

So significant upgrades to our bench, but our starting units will largely be the same other than the continued development of Herro Bam and Robinson.


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I don't think Alexander stays, but I can see the Aldridge trade go down. It's a Pat type move.

I'm not a fan of old man Aldridge honestly, but if the price is really low I can see the positives - he can play Next to Bam OR behind Bam, he can probably shoot more 3's next year then he did before, and he can carry some of the offensive load.

this trade spells reality