Trade Talk (Part Five)

[Chello1]

According to Daily Wolves and Bleacher report the pick is going to be Wiseman if we stay at 1. They will need to be blown away to move off of him. I am glad to hear this. It is obvious this guy has the best chance to be a superstar in this draft. How many 7 footers are athletic freaks like this guy? He moves like a six foot two inch guard....... He comes in with the best floor to me... Defensive stud and rim protector. He makes the Wolves instantly better just for his defense. plus he is on a rookie deal..... Win-Win.

I hope it is not just smoke...... We draw the best trade offers this way and if we don't like them we get the best chance at a super star in this draft in my opinion anyway!!!!! Not a fan of the other two guys who do not put forth any effort on defense what so ever and are both question marks offensively to me.

[jpatrick]

According to Daily Wolves and Bleacher report the pick is going to be Wiseman if we stay at 1. They will need to be blown away to move off of him. I am glad to hear this. It is obvious this guy has the best chance to be a superstar in this draft. How many 7 footers are athletic freaks like this guy? He moves like a six foot two inch guard....... He comes in with the best floor to me... Defensive stud and rim protector. He makes the Wolves instantly better just for his defense. plus he is on a rookie deal..... Win-Win.

I hope it is not just smoke...... We draw the best trade offers this way and if we don't like them we get the best chance at a super star in this draft in my opinion anyway!!!!! Not a fan of the other two guys who do not put forth any effort on defense what so ever and are both question marks offensively to me.

I mean it’s possible. But this guy played one game against a high major college team after what many says was mediocre effect on winning games in AAU. And I’m assuming refuses to interview or workout with the Wolves. On top of that, you run the risk of alienating your best player unless Towns is on board with moving to PF.

Just sounds like smoke to me given the teams picking at 2 and 3 seem to prefer Wiseman. I would guess pressure for one of them to give up an asset to move up to 1.

[Howard Cosell]

It’s all smoke. Twolves not drafting Wiseman.

[Dewey]

It’s all smoke. Twolves not drafting Wiseman.

They’ll be drafting Wiseman... we just don’t know for who.

It better be a sweet deal else keep the BPA and move

[Norseman79]

In theory, how close would DLo and 17 be for Simmons? If we could add a second first, should that get it done? (I am asking because I have two off the wall trade ideas, that make sense in my head but hinge on DLos value to Phili)

[KGdaBom]

If somehow Edwards becomes a star and we trade the pick.
Thats going to be another Timberwolves regret...

At this point i draft Edwards, try to trade the #17 and maybe Culver for a PF (Gordon) and sign a guy like Joe Harris.
Perfect balanced team. Perfect timeline. And yes, i believe this is a playoff team.

Russell
Edwards
Joe Harris
Gordon
KAT

Edwards is unlikely to be a star. Holiday is a star. Sure he's probably only got 4 real good years left, but I prefer that to no good years.
Holiday trade or draft Wiseman. Go Wolves.

I don't think you can call Jrue a star when his last (and only) all-star appearance was 8 seasons ago.
Definitely NOT top 20. Very good player, but not top 20 and it wont take the #1 overall to get him.

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All star game doesn't mean much. Russell got in as an alternate and Holiday is ten times the player. Right conference. Holiday is easily top 20. Every bit as good as Jimmy Butler.

[KGdaBom]

According to Daily Wolves and Bleacher report the pick is going to be Wiseman if we stay at 1. They will need to be blown away to move off of him. I am glad to hear this. It is obvious this guy has the best chance to be a superstar in this draft. How many 7 footers are athletic freaks like this guy? He moves like a six foot two inch guard....... He comes in with the best floor to me... Defensive stud and rim protector. He makes the Wolves instantly better just for his defense. plus he is on a rookie deal..... Win-Win.

I hope it is not just smoke...... We draw the best trade offers this way and if we don't like them we get the best chance at a super star in this draft in my opinion anyway!!!!! Not a fan of the other two guys who do not put forth any effort on defense what so ever and are both question marks offensively to me.

What makes Daily Wolves and Bleacher report think they know who the Wolves want? No way in hell anybody from the organization has told them anything.

[KGdaBom]

According to Daily Wolves and Bleacher report the pick is going to be Wiseman if we stay at 1. They will need to be blown away to move off of him. I am glad to hear this. It is obvious this guy has the best chance to be a superstar in this draft. How many 7 footers are athletic freaks like this guy? He moves like a six foot two inch guard....... He comes in with the best floor to me... Defensive stud and rim protector. He makes the Wolves instantly better just for his defense. plus he is on a rookie deal..... Win-Win.

I hope it is not just smoke...... We draw the best trade offers this way and if we don't like them we get the best chance at a super star in this draft in my opinion anyway!!!!! Not a fan of the other two guys who do not put forth any effort on defense what so ever and are both question marks offensively to me.

I mean it’s possible. But this guy played one game against a high major college team after what many says was mediocre effect on winning games in AAU. And I’m assuming refuses to interview or workout with the Wolves. On top of that, you run the risk of alienating your best player unless Towns is on board with moving to PF.

Just sounds like smoke to me given the teams picking at 2 and 3 seem to prefer Wiseman. I would guess pressure for one of them to give up an asset to move up to 1.

I don't think Towns would be alienated if we draft Wiseman. I think he'd be happy for the help. He's got the rebounding and defending the rim responsibilities with no help right now. As for drafting Ball it was OBVIOUS that Russell doesn't want us to. So of the supposed big three that leaves Edwards.

[Wolveswin]

In theory, how close would DLo and 17 be for Simmons? If we could add a second first, should that get it done? (I am asking because I have two off the wall trade ideas, that make sense in my head but hinge on DLos value to Phili)

I am not sure the Blazers answer the phone for Simons if offering Russell + #17.

Oh, you mean Simmons for Philly?

[Wolveswin]

Edwards is unlikely to be a star. Holiday is a star. Sure he's probably only got 4 real good years left, but I prefer that to no good years.
Holiday trade or draft Wiseman. Go Wolves.

I don't think you can call Jrue a star when his last (and only) all-star appearance was 8 seasons ago.
Definitely NOT top 20. Very good player, but not top 20 and it wont take the #1 overall to get him.

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All star game doesn't mean much. Russell got in as an alternate and Holiday is ten times the player. Right conference. Holiday is easily top 20. Every bit as good as Jimmy Butler.

Wow.

[Neeva]

In theory, how close would DLo and 17 be for Simmons? If we could add a second first, should that get it done? (I am asking because I have two off the wall trade ideas, that make sense in my head but hinge on DLos value to Phili)

Not close at all, dlo is a neutral asset on his contract. Hopefully for the wolves sake he can play like a fringe all star entering his prime in the next few seasons.

[Neeva]

In theory, how close would DLo and 17 be for Simmons? If we could add a second first, should that get it done? (I am asking because I have two off the wall trade ideas, that make sense in my head but hinge on DLos value to Phili)

I am not sure the Blazers answer the phone for Simons if offering Russell + #17.

Oh, you mean Simmons for Philly?

Simons will be out of nba in a few years..

[Wolveswin]

In theory, how close would DLo and 17 be for Simmons? If we could add a second first, should that get it done? (I am asking because I have two off the wall trade ideas, that make sense in my head but hinge on DLos value to Phili)

I am not sure the Blazers answer the phone for Simons if offering Russell + #17.

Oh, you mean Simmons for Philly?

Simons will be out of nba in a few years..

Yea that was the point of my reply.

[Neeva]

According to Daily Wolves and Bleacher report the pick is going to be Wiseman if we stay at 1. They will need to be blown away to move off of him. I am glad to hear this. It is obvious this guy has the best chance to be a superstar in this draft. How many 7 footers are athletic freaks like this guy? He moves like a six foot two inch guard....... He comes in with the best floor to me... Defensive stud and rim protector. He makes the Wolves instantly better just for his defense. plus he is on a rookie deal..... Win-Win.

I hope it is not just smoke...... We draw the best trade offers this way and if we don't like them we get the best chance at a super star in this draft in my opinion anyway!!!!! Not a fan of the other two guys who do not put forth any effort on defense what so ever and are both question marks offensively to me.

I mean it’s possible. But this guy played one game against a high major college team after what many says was mediocre effect on winning games in AAU. And I’m assuming refuses to interview or workout with the Wolves. On top of that, you run the risk of alienating your best player unless Towns is on board with moving to PF.

Just sounds like smoke to me given the teams picking at 2 and 3 seem to prefer Wiseman. I would guess pressure for one of them to give up an asset to move up to 1.

I don’t like hearing or seeing videos on how Wiseman was dominated in high school by younger and shorter Evan Mobley and Isiaah Stewart. Hopefully Jordan and the hornets overlook that and overpay.

[Chello1]

We need a third star, because it gives us biggest chance to start winning in West Conference. Rosas delivered a sign of his geniality by turning water into wine, i.e. Wiggins into DLo. However, it is almost impossible to acquire a young star in this league without giving away many assets. E.g. Simmons or Booker trade would probably mean a combination of #1, #17, Culver, JJ, Layman, Okogie, Reid, 2023 and 2025 unprotected picks. It also must be a baby max contract. Otherwise, we wont have any cap space at all.

Second scenario is to get a young player who can outperform his current multiyear contract, such as Aaron Gordon, Caris LeVert, DeJonte Murray. In my opinion they can play much better in MIN because of KAT-DLo.

Last scenario is a proven player in his prime, who plays close to star level, but comes with some risks. E.g. Jrue Holiday, Oladipo, Hayward. Sure, we cant afford paying them max contract. The question is who of these group is willing to resign with us for multi-year deal slightly below max? If Holiday accepts 25-30 mil per year deal, it is a fantastic deal for us. I'm sure a trio of KAT-DLo-Holiday would play competitive basketball and I'm sure that Rosas and Gupta would fill our roster with role players on team-friendly deals such Nowell, Reid, Martin, Layman etc.

Absolutely. KAT, Russell and Holiday is the makings of a very good lineup.

I agree the makings of a good lineup...I love Jrue Holiday.... The problem is we don't have any money left ot improve the rest of the roster and we will have given away any depth we may have had....

[Chello1]

According to Daily Wolves and Bleacher report the pick is going to be Wiseman if we stay at 1. They will need to be blown away to move off of him. I am glad to hear this. It is obvious this guy has the best chance to be a superstar in this draft. How many 7 footers are athletic freaks like this guy? He moves like a six foot two inch guard....... He comes in with the best floor to me... Defensive stud and rim protector. He makes the Wolves instantly better just for his defense. plus he is on a rookie deal..... Win-Win.

I hope it is not just smoke...... We draw the best trade offers this way and if we don't like them we get the best chance at a super star in this draft in my opinion anyway!!!!! Not a fan of the other two guys who do not put forth any effort on defense what so ever and are both question marks offensively to me.

What makes Daily Wolves and Bleacher report think they know who the Wolves want? No way in hell anybody from the organization has told them anything.

That is what the report says... It only got out because the wolves wanted it to get out... Could be smoke to get more in a trade... Or it could be that the front office pulled their heads out and wants to draft the best shot this draft has at a superstar....

[Chello1]

According to Daily Wolves and Bleacher report the pick is going to be Wiseman if we stay at 1. They will need to be blown away to move off of him. I am glad to hear this. It is obvious this guy has the best chance to be a superstar in this draft. How many 7 footers are athletic freaks like this guy? He moves like a six foot two inch guard....... He comes in with the best floor to me... Defensive stud and rim protector. He makes the Wolves instantly better just for his defense. plus he is on a rookie deal..... Win-Win.

I hope it is not just smoke...... We draw the best trade offers this way and if we don't like them we get the best chance at a super star in this draft in my opinion anyway!!!!! Not a fan of the other two guys who do not put forth any effort on defense what so ever and are both question marks offensively to me.

I mean it’s possible. But this guy played one game against a high major college team after what many says was mediocre effect on winning games in AAU. And I’m assuming refuses to interview or workout with the Wolves. On top of that, you run the risk of alienating your best player unless Towns is on board with moving to PF.

Just sounds like smoke to me given the teams picking at 2 and 3 seem to prefer Wiseman. I would guess pressure for one of them to give up an asset to move up to 1.

I don't think Towns would be alienated if we draft Wiseman. I think he'd be happy for the help. He's got the rebounding and defending the rim responsibilities with no help right now. As for drafting Ball it was OBVIOUS that Russell doesn't want us to. So of the supposed big three that leaves Edwards.

If we stay at 1 the pick has to be Wiseman. They are not drafting Ball, because of the point you just shared and they are not drafting Edwards because he is a carbon copy of the gut who shall remain nameless that we unloaded on Golden State....... If we don't trade it will be Wiseman and Towns will be happy as hell to have the guy who will do all the dirty work on the defensive end that he doesn't want to do.

[KGdaBom]

According to Daily Wolves and Bleacher report the pick is going to be Wiseman if we stay at 1. They will need to be blown away to move off of him. I am glad to hear this. It is obvious this guy has the best chance to be a superstar in this draft. How many 7 footers are athletic freaks like this guy? He moves like a six foot two inch guard....... He comes in with the best floor to me... Defensive stud and rim protector. He makes the Wolves instantly better just for his defense. plus he is on a rookie deal..... Win-Win.

I hope it is not just smoke...... We draw the best trade offers this way and if we don't like them we get the best chance at a super star in this draft in my opinion anyway!!!!! Not a fan of the other two guys who do not put forth any effort on defense what so ever and are both question marks offensively to me.

What makes Daily Wolves and Bleacher report think they know who the Wolves want? No way in hell anybody from the organization has told them anything.

That is what the report says... It only got out because the wolves wanted it to get out... Could be smoke to get more in a trade... Or it could be that the front office pulled their heads out and wants to draft the best shot this draft has at a superstar....

Hopefully the latter.

[Baseline81]

The usual suspects. Evans and Spellman most likely.

Both Evans and Spellman are roughly $2M each. Combined with Johnson that gets you to $20M of Holiday's $26M.

[KGdaBom]

The usual suspects. Evans and Spellman most likely.

Both Evans and Spellman are roughly $2M each. Combined with Johnson that gets you to $20M of Holiday's $26M.

That means we have to add more. Wonder how Beasley affects all this. Is he counting as Cap against us and how much?