2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II

[KGdaBom]

I put the chances of all three of Maxey, Terry and Lewis being drafted in the top 10 at less than 1%. Maybe a lot less than 1%. I put the chances of all three of them gone by 17 at about 50/50. Minimus will you go nuts if one is there at 17 and we don't draft him?

Unless they put an awful video from workout like Vassell did, I see zero chance that Terry, Maxey and Kira Lewis Jr, will be available at 17. IMO Kira Lewis will be the best PG from this draft, Terry will be the best shooter and Maxey will be the best scorer comboguard. Hence, I'd draft any of them in a heartbeat at #17.

50/50 That one of them will be available. I put the chances of all three being available at a much lower %. I hope you are happy to be wrong when one of them is there for us. However, no guarantee that the Wolves select one.

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2916758-2020-nba-draft-buzz-is-a-new-no-1-pick-emerging

Multiple sources have told Bleacher Report the name they keep hearing now for the Timberwolves is James Wiseman. "Some within the Golden State Warriors think Wiseman is going No. 1, whether Minnesota keeps the pick or not," one source plugged into the conversation said.

It's an intriguing development given the obvious questions about whether Wiseman and Karl-Anthony Towns can play together.

However, sources also say the Charlotte Hornets "want Wiseman badly," a plausible belief given the team's established backcourt and need for a big man.

Could Minnesota be trying to create the perception it would draft Wiseman, just as a ploy to pressure Charlotte into offering more in a trade up to No. 1? By swapping with the Hornets and moving to No. 3, the Wolves' front office could feel less pressure and draft a player who fits the lineup cleaner—while acquiring additional assets—such as combo forward Deni Avdija or even Obi Toppin for the 4.

Or could Minnesota really take Wiseman at No. 1 with the belief he's the best player in the draft? If that were the case, the Wolves would play Towns against power forwards and use Wiseman for rim protection. The obvious concern would be their ability to defend the perimeter and faster lineups.

The Wolves even considering Wiseman would reflect a clear lack of confidence in LaMelo Ball and Anthony Edwards. But it's also possible the team is blowing smoke to draw more or bigger offers from teams targeting the 7'1" 19-year-old.

Let’s do it. KAT isn’t a championship caliber center in this league and it isn’t close. What’s better than 1 7 foot ball handling stud that runs the court, hits free throws at a high clip, can step out and hit 3s? 2 of those. Except this one can protect the rim


Modern day twin towers...lezzgo

[KGdaBom]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2916758-2020-nba-draft-buzz-is-a-new-no-1-pick-emerging

Multiple sources have told Bleacher Report the name they keep hearing now for the Timberwolves is James Wiseman. "Some within the Golden State Warriors think Wiseman is going No. 1, whether Minnesota keeps the pick or not," one source plugged into the conversation said.

It's an intriguing development given the obvious questions about whether Wiseman and Karl-Anthony Towns can play together.

However, sources also say the Charlotte Hornets "want Wiseman badly," a plausible belief given the team's established backcourt and need for a big man.

Could Minnesota be trying to create the perception it would draft Wiseman, just as a ploy to pressure Charlotte into offering more in a trade up to No. 1? By swapping with the Hornets and moving to No. 3, the Wolves' front office could feel less pressure and draft a player who fits the lineup cleaner—while acquiring additional assets—such as combo forward Deni Avdija or even Obi Toppin for the 4.

Or could Minnesota really take Wiseman at No. 1 with the belief he's the best player in the draft? If that were the case, the Wolves would play Towns against power forwards and use Wiseman for rim protection. The obvious concern would be their ability to defend the perimeter and faster lineups.

The Wolves even considering Wiseman would reflect a clear lack of confidence in LaMelo Ball and Anthony Edwards. But it's also possible the team is blowing smoke to draw more or bigger offers from teams targeting the 7'1" 19-year-old.

Let’s do it. KAT isn’t a championship caliber center in this league and it isn’t close. What’s better than 1 7 foot ball handling stud that runs the court, hits free throws at a high clip, can step out and hit 3s? 2 of those. Except this one can protect the rim


Modern day twin towers...lezzgo

That's my preferred scenario also. However, if that isn't who we want lets at least get an asset for swapping picks with the Warriors or Hornets.

[Wolveswin]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2916758-2020-nba-draft-buzz-is-a-new-no-1-pick-emerging

Multiple sources have told Bleacher Report the name they keep hearing now for the Timberwolves is James Wiseman. "Some within the Golden State Warriors think Wiseman is going No. 1, whether Minnesota keeps the pick or not," one source plugged into the conversation said.

It's an intriguing development given the obvious questions about whether Wiseman and Karl-Anthony Towns can play together.

However, sources also say the Charlotte Hornets "want Wiseman badly," a plausible belief given the team's established backcourt and need for a big man.

Could Minnesota be trying to create the perception it would draft Wiseman, just as a ploy to pressure Charlotte into offering more in a trade up to No. 1? By swapping with the Hornets and moving to No. 3, the Wolves' front office could feel less pressure and draft a player who fits the lineup cleaner—while acquiring additional assets—such as combo forward Deni Avdija or even Obi Toppin for the 4.

Or could Minnesota really take Wiseman at No. 1 with the belief he's the best player in the draft? If that were the case, the Wolves would play Towns against power forwards and use Wiseman for rim protection. The obvious concern would be their ability to defend the perimeter and faster lineups.

The Wolves even considering Wiseman would reflect a clear lack of confidence in LaMelo Ball and Anthony Edwards. But it's also possible the team is blowing smoke to draw more or bigger offers from teams targeting the 7'1" 19-year-old.

Let’s do it. KAT isn’t a championship caliber center in this league and it isn’t close. What’s better than 1 7 foot ball handling stud that runs the court, hits free throws at a high clip, can step out and hit 3s? 2 of those. Except this one can protect the rim


Modern day twin towers...lezzgo

Wiseman has been my ask from the beginning. This is why. You shaped it up so well. Small ball be dammed. We are going Towns and Wiseman on the league. Worked for Robinson and Duncan.

[KGdaBom]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2916758-2020-nba-draft-buzz-is-a-new-no-1-pick-emerging

Let’s do it. KAT isn’t a championship caliber center in this league and it isn’t close. What’s better than 1 7 foot ball handling stud that runs the court, hits free throws at a high clip, can step out and hit 3s? 2 of those. Except this one can protect the rim


Modern day twin towers...lezzgo

Wiseman has been my ask from the beginning. This is why. You shaped it up so well. Small ball be dammed. We are going Towns and Wiseman on the league. Worked for Robinson and Duncan.

I like the way you think.

[KGdaBom]

Hey all. I go to bed after checking everything out and wake up to 17 notifications. Just curious what's your record for notifications and how long you were away?

[jpatrick]

So we have a leak to the local guys about Wiseman and today Givony says the assumption amongst most NBA teams is that Ball goes #1, whether to MN or a team trading up.

I will say, Rosas does a good job making sure no one knows what he’s going to do. He’s essentially saying no matter what player you want to trade up for, you have to do it with us because you have no idea who we’re going to take.

[Dewey]

Internally, I hope our F.O. is not as nearly confused selecting #1 as the media wizzards ... they are throwing darts all over the place and manufacturing narratives like there's no tomorrow - like usual I guess - gotta have clicks!

If we don't have a serious trade partner, we have to go BPA and right now that's Wiseman IMO. I just don't trust Edwards for some reason and I'm not a big fan of the Ball clan. We know the master plan has been to pursue win-now players from Day 1, but if a good deal is not there - it's not there.

Then there's the WILDCARD ... maybe we move the disgruntled KAT for Booker and build around DLo/Booker/Wiseman. Trade #17/Player for Forward or move up and draft a starting Forward.

Anyway, I hope we learned from the Flynn saga that just because Curry didnt want to be selected by MN, we still shoulda drafted him via BPA and held the cards. I dont care what Wiseman (or Wisemans camp) think they want ... I only care what our F.O believes is best for MN. Curious how DLo & KAT perceive our #1 draft pick options if we were to select and keep.

[Baseline81]

Internally, I hope our F.O. is not as nearly confused selecting #1 as the media wizzards ... they are throwing darts all over the place and manufacturing narratives like there's no tomorrow - like usual I guess - gotta have clicks!

If we don't have a serious trade partner, we have to go BPA and right now that's Wiseman IMO. I just don't trust Edwards for some reason and I'm not a big fan of the Ball clan. We know the master plan has been to pursue win-now players from Day 1, but if a good deal is not there - it's not there.

Then there's the WILDCARD ... maybe we move the disgruntled KAT for Booker and build around DLo/Booker/Wiseman. Trade #17/Player for Forward or move up and draft a starting Forward.

Anyway, I hope we learned from the Flynn saga that just because Curry didnt want to be selected by MN, we still shoulda drafted him via BPA and held the cards. I dont care what Wiseman (or Wisemans camp) think they want ... I only care what our F.O believes is best for MN. Curious how DLo & KAT perceive our #1 draft pick options if we were to select and keep.

What?

Rosas isn't trading either Russell or Towns, especially since the two played only one game together. From Phoenix's end, why would the Suns make that trade when they already have Ayton at center?

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Top picks nearly locked in?

It's still difficult to have a firm grasp on where each projected lottery pick will end up, though a consensus is beginning to form among teams that split the top prospects into two tiers.

Unless a surprise trade completely disrupts the top of the draft, LaMelo Ball, Anthony Edwards and James Wiseman are likely to make up the top three in some order, according to conversations with multiple team executives, scouts and agents. Most NBA front offices are operating under the assumption that Ball is going No. 1 -- either to the Minnesota Timberwolves or a team that trades up to select him.

Some popular picks among executives to make such a move for Ball at No. 1 include the Chicago Bulls (currently holding the No. 4 pick), Detroit Pistons (No. 7) and Oklahoma City Thunder (No. 25, plus a stash of future firsts).

[Baseline81]

Would anyone be able to list all of the Thunder's future firsts they are owed (and their protections)?

[UnFadeable21]

Multiple front offices were somewhat discouraged watching Edwards' performance during his televised pro day on Oct. 29, seeing sluggishness and inconsistencies with his jump shot. Tyrese Maxey, who showed up in outstanding condition and shot the ball better than expected, might have caused Edwards to look a bit worse by comparison, according to some executives. While many around the NBA are enamored with Edwards' talent, a lack of trust in his likelihood of reaching his full potential is still often cited a hurdle he has to overcome. Whether it's fair or not, his pro day didn't help his case there.



I’m an elite NBA mind. I posted last week the Edwards full workout and said the same thing Pro scouts said today.

Edwards shot was not consistent and his workout was not impressive. He was gassed out.

[Jedzz]

Hey all. I go to bed after checking everything out and wake up to 17 notifications. Just curious what's your record for notifications and how long you were away?

19 notifications, all from KGdaBom, 24 hours

[gandlogo]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2916758-2020-nba-draft-buzz-is-a-new-no-1-pick-emerging

Let’s do it. KAT isn’t a championship caliber center in this league and it isn’t close. What’s better than 1 7 foot ball handling stud that runs the court, hits free throws at a high clip, can step out and hit 3s? 2 of those. Except this one can protect the rim


Modern day twin towers...lezzgo

Wiseman has been my ask from the beginning. This is why. You shaped it up so well. Small ball be dammed. We are going Towns and Wiseman on the league. Worked for Robinson and Duncan.

18 years ago. That's the last time Robinson and Duncan played together. At that time the league average was 14.7 3-pt shots per team per game. Last season, the league averaged over 34 3-pt shots per team per game. The Wolves averaged just under 40 attempts per game. Like it or not, that's how the modern game is played.

[Jedzz]

Multiple front offices were somewhat discouraged watching Edwards' performance during his televised pro day on Oct. 29, seeing sluggishness and inconsistencies with his jump shot. Tyrese Maxey, who showed up in outstanding condition and shot the ball better than expected, might have caused Edwards to look a bit worse by comparison, according to some executives. While many around the NBA are enamored with Edwards' talent, a lack of trust in his likelihood of reaching his full potential is still often cited a hurdle he has to overcome. Whether it's fair or not, his pro day didn't help his case there.



I’m an elite NBA mind. I posted last week the Edwards full workout and said the same thing Pro scouts said today.

Edwards shot was not consistent and his workout was not impressive. He was gassed out.

Remind me the last time anyone cared how these players shoot in practice compared to how they shoot in games. I mean it probably isn't a good sign if they can't even hit shots or look clean and controlled in workouts. But those making them in workouts aren't locks to do it in the NBA games.

However these players do seem to be proving they shouldn't be top 3 picks if you ask me. Trade it for a snowcone.

[UnFadeable21]

Multiple front offices were somewhat discouraged watching Edwards' performance during his televised pro day on Oct. 29, seeing sluggishness and inconsistencies with his jump shot. Tyrese Maxey, who showed up in outstanding condition and shot the ball better than expected, might have caused Edwards to look a bit worse by comparison, according to some executives. While many around the NBA are enamored with Edwards' talent, a lack of trust in his likelihood of reaching his full potential is still often cited a hurdle he has to overcome. Whether it's fair or not, his pro day didn't help his case there.



I’m an elite NBA mind. I posted last week the Edwards full workout and said the same thing Pro scouts said today.

Edwards shot was not consistent and his workout was not impressive. He was gassed out.

Remind me the last time anyone cared how these players shoot in practice compared to how they shoot in games. I mean it probably isn't a good sign if they can't even hit shots or look clean and controlled in workouts. But those making them in workouts aren't locks to do it in the NBA games.

However these players do seem to be proving they shouldn't be top 3 picks if you ask me. Trade it for a snowcone.

Edwards can’t make shots in an open gym and he can’t make them in the game 29% from 3, 40% from 2.

Edwards has high ceiling but dude is kinda slow but can’t really blame him.

His dad left his family, his mom and gma died so he’s never had guidance in his life. Once he becomes multi millionaire, is he gonna change for the better?

His coach Tom Creen said for him to succeed in the NBA, he’s going to need a lot of veteran mentors and good coaching.

Wolves don’t have any veterans and our coach sucks.

Looks like a recipe for disaster

Dion Waiters 2.0

[minimus]

Edwards can’t make shots in an open gym and he can’t make them in the game 29% from 3, 40% from 2.

Edwards has high ceiling but dude is kinda slow but can’t really blame him.

His dad left his family, his mom and gma died so he’s never had guidance in his life. Once he becomes multi millionaire, is he gonna change for the better?

Edwards is kind of slow? He is the fastest player with the ball in his hands, he changes directions, speed, adjust his body on fly. He also shot 77.2% free throw line.

With regard to his possible off-court. I believe that it depends on environment as well. Working and living in a right environment will help you to succeed.

[Baseline81]

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By the way, I think it's ridiculous how in the initial tweet Goodman said he wouldn't want to be Minnesota with the first overall pick. As if he'd like to be picking 12th or something. I agree there's no sure-fire star such as Davis, but that doesn't mean it's a terrible position to be in. If polled, I'd bet the majority of other 29 teams would like to be in Minnesota's situation.

[UnFadeable21]

Edwards can’t make shots in an open gym and he can’t make them in the game 29% from 3, 40% from 2.

Edwards has high ceiling but dude is kinda slow but can’t really blame him.

His dad left his family, his mom and gma died so he’s never had guidance in his life. Once he becomes multi millionaire, is he gonna change for the better?

Edwards is kind of slow? He is the fastest player with the ball in his hands, he changes directions, speed, adjust his body on fly. He also shot 77.2% free throw line.

With regard to his possible off-court. I believe that it depends on environment as well. Working and living in a right environment will help you to succeed.

Not physically slow.

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By the way, I think it's ridiculous how in the initial tweet Goodman said he wouldn't want to be Minnesota with the first overall pick. As if he'd like to be picking 12th or something. I agree there's no sure-fire star such as Davis, but that doesn't mean it's a terrible position to be in. If polled, I'd bet the majority of other 29 teams would like to be in Minnesota's situation.

I like how minnesota at 1 doesn’t have value yet warriors at 2 have value for all these big hypothetical trades lol