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2020 Presidential Election Thread: IT'S THE FINAL (vote) COUNTDOWN! [update pg 61: Joe Biden elected 46th POTUS]

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: IT'S THE FINAL (vote) COUNTDOWN! [update pg 61: Joe Biden elected 46th POTUS] 

Post#1881 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:24 pm

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stuporman wrote:This is what Trump and the rest of Republicans have been turning the GOP into, a party of Nazi type violent rhetoric that is anything but American while simultaneously wrapping themselves in the flag.

This isn't an outlier, there has been countless examples of this from all sort of authorities and elected officials which leave one to wonder if the 'leaders' are like this how much worse is it in the unseen rest.

https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2020/nov/08/police-chief-resigns-in-marshall/

Police chief resigns in Marshall; posts urging election-related violence drew scrutiny

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Marshall Police Chief Lang Holland resigned Saturday afternoon, a day after urging violence against "traitors" who had attempted to prevent the reelection of President Donald Trump.

Kevin Elliott, the city's mayor, said Holland apologized for the trouble caused by a series of profanity-laden social media posts, which also called for the death of "all Marxist Democrats."

Online, Holland echoed claims that the president had been the victim of an Election Day attempted coup, with his enemies using electoral fraud to deny Trump a second term.

In one post, Holland declared: "Do not forget what these Marxist Democrat b* have tried to do. When you see one in public get in their face do not give them peace. Throw water on them at restaurants. Push them off sidewalks. Never let them forget they are traitors and have no right to live in this Republic after what they have done."

Another stated: "Death to all Marxist Democrats. Take no prisoners leave no survivors!!"

Others expressed disgust with the state of the nation.

One, noting passage of Polish anti-abortion legislation, said: "Maybe I should look to moving to Poland and trying to get citizenship. The Poles are a lot smarter than the Marxist Bolshevik Democrats who infest America."

[DOCUMENT: Read the announcement by the mayor of Marshall » arkansasonline.com/118marshall/]

Holland also shared an illustration of former President Barack Obama, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and others wearing orange prison-style jumpsuits.

"I pray all those in that picture hang on the gallows and are drawn and quartered!!!!" he wrote. "Anything less is not acceptable."

Holland made the comments on Parler, a conservative alternative to Twitter that encourages its users to "speak freely and express yourself openly, without fear of being 'deplatformed' for your views."

On Saturday evening, the posts appeared to no longer be available online.

The Police Department's Facebook page also appeared to have been disabled.

Holland had been police chief in Marshall, a city of 1,355 people and the Searcy County seat, for the past two years, Elliott said.

His resignation was effective immediately.
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His job performance had been exemplary, Elliott said.

"He's done excellent. I've been with the city of Marshall for 26 years and, by far, he's been the best police chief that I've ever seen," Elliott said.

The incendiary posts came as a complete surprise, Elliott said.

"I don't [do] social media, but I was notified last night and all day today and got a bunch of posts and pictures to me," he said.

Asked about the comments Saturday, Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson said they were "dangerous" and that Holland's departure would be merited.

The posts were inconsistent with the city's mission, Elliott said.

"I don't care who they are -- Republican, Democrat or whoever -- my Police Department for the city of Marshall is here to protect and serve everybody," he said.

After reviewing the material, "I called in the Arkansas Municipal League [and] my attorneys, [and] I got some advice on the steps I need to take and the proper direction I need to go. I called Mr. Holland in, and he resigned as police chief," Elliott said.

No resignation had been requested, the mayor said.

Holland has a long record of service in the area.

He served as a deputy with the Searcy County sheriff's office between January 2001 and August 2015, according to his LinkedIn page, taking a break at some point to work as a police adviser or mentor in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In 2014, he was shot while responding to a hostage situation in Leslie, southeast of Marshall. Holland's conduct that day resulted in a medal of valor from the Arkansas Sheriffs Association, according to his LinkedIn page. The Arkansas State Police also recognized his "gallant efforts."

In addition to being a vocal Trump supporter, Holland was also skeptical of governmental efforts to curb the spread of covid-19.

In July, when Hutchinson ordered Arkansans to wear masks in public places, Holland accused him of exceeding his authority.

"I Chief Lang Holland feel this order is a very large overreach of the powers given to the State government by the citizens of the state of Arkansas," he wrote in a memo posted on the Police Department Facebook page. "Therefore the Marshall Police Department will take NO enforcement action of any kind this includes arrest or citation by anyone who is not wearing a mask while out in public."

Holland subsequently told the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette that he doesn't wear a mask himself and would not require his officers to wear them while on duty.

Information for this article was contributed by John Moritz and John Lynch of the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette.


Most of us have violent thoughts of our own at times, but we don't advocate for it out of principle even if there some people we loathe. I would much rather see Trump suffer in prison than die anyway.

Trumpism normalized deranged people advocating for violence against their opponents.

Society needs to de-normalize this behavior. Anyone in a position to protect and serve needs to be removed upon discovery of any such online incitements to commit violence.


Trumpism definitely turned up the volume on it so it's more heard currently but this isn't a new sentiment and wasn't the first time the volume was up this high. The religious conservative right hates the left, demonizes everyone that isn't them and seeks to eradicate them from existence or at least out of 'their country'. I'm concerned this type of behavior will become a norm from them again because it isn't too far removed from a time that it had been.

Their intolerance to ideas, beliefs and diversity that isn't their own and vitriolic way they treat others is dangerous. It's not as innocuous as just some violent thoughts we may have springing from our monkey mind from time to time. Their intention to behave this way towards others is embedded in their ideology, their belief system and makes it's virtually impossible to coexist in peace with them because they won't allow it.


The amount of support that remained for Trump is concerning.

I'd draw a parallel with you if I may. You're not highly tolerant of centrism in the Democratic Party, but since I assume you also recognize the dangers of Trumpism you accept why there is a need to vote for a Democrat you may not really be enthused about.

On the flip side there is the other form of tolerance where you have people who are not white supremacists who have a tolerance for everything that is bad in the GOP because they are either lifelong Republican voters or because they back one or more issues they support.

For me, personally, that's the fault line in American society now. There's a vast difference between navigating the corporatist elements within a party to achieve your objectives and accepting fascism and white nationalism.

And I don't know how to deal with it. I related how one of my exes sounds like a Republican now with the same song and dance about how the GOP doesn't represent evil and people who vote for them are not bad. When I said that's how Nazism gains a foothold, by turning a blind eye there is no response simply because for a lot of Americans it never goes that deep. They simply do not care about politics fundamentally, so they're willing to go along with just about anything.

My personal solution is to settle in another country most likely. I don't see this level of blind acceptance of authoritarianism and racism ending anytime soon.

The only solution now politically is to keep winning until you can restack the courts, rewrite the books, change the rules and shift the demographic. I won't go blue in the face any longer trying to argue why that means leftists need to keep working with the Democratic Party, because if this near-death experience for our Democracy wasn't enough to convince people of this necessity I don't have the energy anymore to convince them.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: IT'S THE FINAL (vote) COUNTDOWN! [update pg 61: Joe Biden elected 46th POTUS] 

Post#1882 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:30 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:Trump's team set up an "election fraud hotline" and guess what happened? Calling on The Jerkey Boys. :lol:



This is my favorite.

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I LOVE THIS STUFF!

I just texted the Trump Fraud Hotline from my Google Voice account:

Found bag of ballots cast for Trump in mens room at IHOP at 2229 Deming Way, Middleton, WI 53562. Looked like a few thousand. Very excited! This could really help big time. Left bag with main waitress Flo. She is good people. Told her whats up. She is expecting pickup from Trump team. Use Magic Word "Flapdoodle" so she knows you are legit Trump person. We got these bastards!


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Kampuchea wrote:How do they let the certificate expire for this website? Really need to be asleep at the wheel for that to happen, they would have received numerous notification that it is going to expire.


Where’s KnicksGod? Partying in Belize? :lol:


Took asylum in Brazil?
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Post#1885 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:41 pm

stuporman wrote:This is what Trump and the rest of Republicans have been turning the GOP into, a party of Nazi type violent rhetoric that is anything but American while simultaneously wrapping themselves in the flag.

This isn't an outlier, there has been countless examples of this from all sort of authorities and elected officials which leave one to wonder if the 'leaders' are like this how much worse is it in the unseen rest.

https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2020/nov/08/police-chief-resigns-in-marshall/

Police chief resigns in Marshall; posts urging election-related violence drew scrutiny

Spoiler:
Marshall Police Chief Lang Holland resigned Saturday afternoon, a day after urging violence against "traitors" who had attempted to prevent the reelection of President Donald Trump.

Kevin Elliott, the city's mayor, said Holland apologized for the trouble caused by a series of profanity-laden social media posts, which also called for the death of "all Marxist Democrats."

Online, Holland echoed claims that the president had been the victim of an Election Day attempted coup, with his enemies using electoral fraud to deny Trump a second term.

In one post, Holland declared: "Do not forget what these Marxist Democrat b* have tried to do. When you see one in public get in their face do not give them peace. Throw water on them at restaurants. Push them off sidewalks. Never let them forget they are traitors and have no right to live in this Republic after what they have done."

Another stated: "Death to all Marxist Democrats. Take no prisoners leave no survivors!!"

Others expressed disgust with the state of the nation.

One, noting passage of Polish anti-abortion legislation, said: "Maybe I should look to moving to Poland and trying to get citizenship. The Poles are a lot smarter than the Marxist Bolshevik Democrats who infest America."

[DOCUMENT: Read the announcement by the mayor of Marshall » arkansasonline.com/118marshall/]

Holland also shared an illustration of former President Barack Obama, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and others wearing orange prison-style jumpsuits.

"I pray all those in that picture hang on the gallows and are drawn and quartered!!!!" he wrote. "Anything less is not acceptable."

Holland made the comments on Parler, a conservative alternative to Twitter that encourages its users to "speak freely and express yourself openly, without fear of being 'deplatformed' for your views."

On Saturday evening, the posts appeared to no longer be available online.

The Police Department's Facebook page also appeared to have been disabled.

Holland had been police chief in Marshall, a city of 1,355 people and the Searcy County seat, for the past two years, Elliott said.

His resignation was effective immediately.
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His job performance had been exemplary, Elliott said.

"He's done excellent. I've been with the city of Marshall for 26 years and, by far, he's been the best police chief that I've ever seen," Elliott said.

The incendiary posts came as a complete surprise, Elliott said.

"I don't [do] social media, but I was notified last night and all day today and got a bunch of posts and pictures to me," he said.

Asked about the comments Saturday, Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson said they were "dangerous" and that Holland's departure would be merited.

The posts were inconsistent with the city's mission, Elliott said.

"I don't care who they are -- Republican, Democrat or whoever -- my Police Department for the city of Marshall is here to protect and serve everybody," he said.

After reviewing the material, "I called in the Arkansas Municipal League [and] my attorneys, [and] I got some advice on the steps I need to take and the proper direction I need to go. I called Mr. Holland in, and he resigned as police chief," Elliott said.

No resignation had been requested, the mayor said.

Holland has a long record of service in the area.

He served as a deputy with the Searcy County sheriff's office between January 2001 and August 2015, according to his LinkedIn page, taking a break at some point to work as a police adviser or mentor in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In 2014, he was shot while responding to a hostage situation in Leslie, southeast of Marshall. Holland's conduct that day resulted in a medal of valor from the Arkansas Sheriffs Association, according to his LinkedIn page. The Arkansas State Police also recognized his "gallant efforts."

In addition to being a vocal Trump supporter, Holland was also skeptical of governmental efforts to curb the spread of covid-19.

In July, when Hutchinson ordered Arkansans to wear masks in public places, Holland accused him of exceeding his authority.

"I Chief Lang Holland feel this order is a very large overreach of the powers given to the State government by the citizens of the state of Arkansas," he wrote in a memo posted on the Police Department Facebook page. "Therefore the Marshall Police Department will take NO enforcement action of any kind this includes arrest or citation by anyone who is not wearing a mask while out in public."

Holland subsequently told the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette that he doesn't wear a mask himself and would not require his officers to wear them while on duty.

Information for this article was contributed by John Moritz and John Lynch of the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette.


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HarthorneWingo wrote:Trump's spiritual advisor offers her devout prayers in support of her Savior :crazy: :noway: :lol: :P :banghead:



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HarthorneWingo wrote:Trump's spiritual advisor offers her devout prayers in support of her Savior :crazy: :noway: :lol: :P :banghead:



Welcome to last Thursday, Wingo!

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I noticed Wingo does that a lot :lol:
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Post#1891 » by K_ick_God » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:17 pm

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Trump has a severe narcissistic personality disorder. DSM-V


And a really weak party under his thumb.
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Post#1893 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:23 pm

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Trump has a severe narcissistic personality disorder. DSM-V


And a really weak party under his thumb.


No longer. His grip on the party is now broken. It only comes down to whether a GOP official chooses to pander to his followers or not for their own personal gain, but Trump will no longer dictate what the GOP does.

Mitch is pretending to go along with his fraud charade for now for reasons I've already stated and because it serves to undermine Biden which is his primary interest now.

Trump does not GAF about the GOP. Never did and never will. He's a one man band. You're either for him or against him.

and Trump doesn't care about the GA races either which is going to make him lots of fresh enemies in the GOP, especially if Trump drags down the GOP in GA and is part of the reason for them losing the run-offs

The only business Trump is in now is pilfering whatever he can while still in the WH, exacting vengeance and making new enemies among those who once supported him
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Post#1894 » by Oscirus » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:26 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Trump has a severe narcissistic personality disorder. DSM-V


And a really weak party under his thumb.


No longer. His grip on the party is now broken. It only comes down to whether a GOP officials chooses to pander to his followers or not, but Trump will no longer dictate what the GOP does.

Mitch is pretending to go along with his fraud charade for now for reasons I've already stated and because it serves to undermine Biden which is his primary interest now.

Trump does not GAF about the GOP. Never did and never will. He's a one man band. You're either for him or against him.

and Trump doesn't care about the GA races either which is going to make me lots of fresh enemies in the GOP, especially if Trump drags down the GOP in GA and is part of the reason for them losing the run-offs

The only business Trump is in now is pilfering whatever he can while still in the WH, exacting vengeance and making new enemies among those who once supported him

Think that if you want. If trump manages to escape prosecution, in 24 at the very least, trump will be a kingmaker
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Post#1895 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:29 pm

Oscirus wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
And a really weak party under his thumb.


No longer. His grip on the party is now broken. It only comes down to whether a GOP officials chooses to pander to his followers or not, but Trump will no longer dictate what the GOP does.

Mitch is pretending to go along with his fraud charade for now for reasons I've already stated and because it serves to undermine Biden which is his primary interest now.

Trump does not GAF about the GOP. Never did and never will. He's a one man band. You're either for him or against him.

and Trump doesn't care about the GA races either which is going to make me lots of fresh enemies in the GOP, especially if Trump drags down the GOP in GA and is part of the reason for them losing the run-offs

The only business Trump is in now is pilfering whatever he can while still in the WH, exacting vengeance and making new enemies among those who once supported him


Think that if you want. If trump manages to escape prosecution, in 24 at the very least, trump will be a kingmaker


From prison?

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Trump is not going to trade state secrets for a billion dollars and use that money to buy off Tish James, but whatever, nevermind
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Post#1897 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:38 pm

lol in four years, if he's even still alive, Trump will be a drooling husk with a dwindling 50 word vocabularly primarily devoted to barking demands at his Mexican nurse for a cheeseburger and another hit of speed

He'll be so decrepit he'll make Commander Pike from Star Trek look like a Rockette by comparison
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Post#1898 » by robillionaire » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:39 pm

when people think of what trump has done and is still doing to this very day to destroy societal norms and the very fabric of democracy the words "never again" should be the first to come to mind. The GOP needs to be voted completely out of power and kept out of power, we have now caught a glimpse of what the logical conclusion of their experiment looks like and it needs to end permanently for the future of humanity to have a shot
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Post#1899 » by dakomish23 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:44 pm

The hypocrisy is amazing. After the media called the election for President Trump vs when they called it for Biden:

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Post#1900 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:49 pm

robillionaire wrote:when people think of what trump has done and is still doing to this very day to destroy societal norms and the very fabric of democracy the words "never again" should be the first to come to mind. The GOP needs to be voted completely out of power and kept out of power, we have now caught a glimpse of what the logical conclusion of their experiment looks like and it needs to end permanently for the future of humanity to have a shot


Absolutely. There is no going back to alternating election wins and losses and shrugging your shoulders about it. The GOP is a criminal organization bent on annihilating the opposition so you really can't show them any quarter any longer.

I don't think Biden is playing soft either. I do think he is using his deep connections within D.C. to soft shoe his way in the door as he walks past the wreckage this Trump non-Transition is wreaking simply because the hateful rhetoric and insane stance the GOP continues to take doesn't need to be flamed back.

What it needs is to be destroyed from within the establishment while simultaneously political organizers need to build out the coalition to consolidate power and keep sweeping this GOP trash out the door in successive elections.

One thing I don't see being spoken about is how much destruction Trump caused by hollowing out the talent of dedicated civil servants throughout the federal system. Biden has to rebuild whole hierarchies from scratch and hope to lure back into the saddle the real pros who were flushed out by Trump's loyalty purges. Trump stocked the federal bureaucracy with flunkies and traitors so Biden has his work cut out for him.

Point being the transfer of power to Democrats has to happen electorally plus via appointments. Trump really crushed decades of institutional functions in four years and the Democrats have to root out the creeps who were installed and rebuild the institutions needed to run a government that serves citizens instead of autocrats.

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