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2020 Presidential Election Thread: IT'S THE FINAL (vote) COUNTDOWN! [update pg 61: Joe Biden elected 46th POTUS]

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: IT'S THE FINAL (vote) COUNTDOWN! [update pg 61: Joe Biden elected 46th POTUS] 

Post#1921 » by dakomish23 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:02 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:The hypocrisy is amazing. After the media called the election for President Trump vs when they called it for Biden:
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These self proclaimed patriots are tearing apart the fabric that helped us be a great nation.


Just to reiterate, these aholes are not supporting Trump. They are trying to keep his followers invested in the GOP. They have zero faith that Trump will stay in power. We know they lack even a lick of honesty or sincerity. They don't for a second believe Trump is going to fancy dance his way into holding on to the WH. This is merely posing for his followers so they don't turn against them and cost them the run-offs in GA. That's all this is. It is not a coup in progress. That's dogchit. Ain't happening. It's all theater. McConnell always points to the outfield seats and says he's going to hit a homer and then hits a single or strikes out. That's how he rolls.


I got to disagree with you here Clyde. I think the threat is real. It’s why they pushed ACB. It’s why they keep mentioning electors - they’re going to try to get them to deflect from the vote count.
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Post#1922 » by Pointgod » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:04 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:Disagree Clyde. His hold is very strong and Pelosi and Schumer are sitting around with their thumbs up their **** as T basically tells people he’s staying.

This isn’t normal and it’s not minor. He’s now denying the actual votes. Very serious.

We have time don’t worry — when has that ever worked out? Crap. People like Trump prey on goodwill and restraint.


No, it's a sucker's game. He is not overturning the vote. This is delusional theater. If you fall for it, that's on you


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Post#1923 » by Pointgod » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:07 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:The hypocrisy is amazing. After the media called the election for President Trump vs when they called it for Biden:
Spoiler:
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https://www.cotton.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=535

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These self proclaimed patriots are tearing apart the fabric that helped us be a great nation.


Just to reiterate, these aholes are not supporting Trump. They are trying to keep his followers invested in the GOP. They have zero faith that Trump will stay in power. We know they lack even a lick of honesty or sincerity. They don't for a second believe Trump is going to fancy dance his way into holding on to the WH. This is merely posing for his followers so they don't turn against them and cost them the run-offs in GA. That's all this is. It is not a coup in progress. That's dogchit. Ain't happening. It's all theater. McConnell always points to the outfield seats and says he's going to hit a homer and then hits a single or strikes out. That's how he rolls.


I got to disagree with you here Clyde. I think the threat is real. It’s why they pushed ACB. It’s why they keep mentioning electors - they’re going to try to get them to deflect from the vote count.


Are these electors willing to go to jail because it’s legally impossible for them to do this.
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Post#1924 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:10 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:The hypocrisy is amazing. After the media called the election for President Trump vs when they called it for Biden:
Spoiler:
Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter


https://www.cotton.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=535

Read on Twitter


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These self proclaimed patriots are tearing apart the fabric that helped us be a great nation.


Just to reiterate, these aholes are not supporting Trump. They are trying to keep his followers invested in the GOP. They have zero faith that Trump will stay in power. We know they lack even a lick of honesty or sincerity. They don't for a second believe Trump is going to fancy dance his way into holding on to the WH. This is merely posing for his followers so they don't turn against them and cost them the run-offs in GA. That's all this is. It is not a coup in progress. That's dogchit. Ain't happening. It's all theater. McConnell always points to the outfield seats and says he's going to hit a homer and then hits a single or strikes out. That's how he rolls.


I got to disagree with you here Clyde. I think the threat is real. It’s why they pushed ACB. It’s why they keep mentioning electors - they’re going to try to get them to deflect from the vote count.


Nope, the threat is what was discussed on the last page which is continued rhetorical warfare that turns everything into a vulgur us vs. them battleground

But as far as going after the election results they've struck out completely thus far, Barr's "investigation" is vapor and Jones Day attorneys are in rebellion over having their firm associated with this election fraud BS

It's rubbish and it will likely only galvanize the Democratic vote in GA while possibly hurting the GOP turnout

They pushed in ACB for this, but they needed a tighter vote in key swing states in order to push it up the court system to SCOTUS and they have failed miserably at this. Even sympathetic GOP judges throw out cases with no evidence and that's what is happening. NO man, it is not going to SCOTUS. fuggedaboudit

This is an incompetent ruse run by bungling criminals holding press conferences in landscaping parking lots with Rudy Drooliani. It's a joke. Just stop it with this panic already. IT IS NOT HAPPENING
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Post#1926 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:16 pm

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Biden won. Nobody is changing that. He won over 300 electorates and the popular vote by close to a landslide. It's done

The GOP and Trump can kick rocks and never concede if they want and Trump is still being escorted out of the WH on the appointed day if he hasn't resigned already

Some of y'all however need to up your game and start being more astute about the psychological gamesmanship of politics and stop being so literal minded. This is a game. It is not a harmless game. It is nasty and disgusting and harmful to democracy. A lot is at stake, for sure, but the election results is not one of them.
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Post#1927 » by dakomish23 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:19 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Just to reiterate, these aholes are not supporting Trump. They are trying to keep his followers invested in the GOP. They have zero faith that Trump will stay in power. We know they lack even a lick of honesty or sincerity. They don't for a second believe Trump is going to fancy dance his way into holding on to the WH. This is merely posing for his followers so they don't turn against them and cost them the run-offs in GA. That's all this is. It is not a coup in progress. That's dogchit. Ain't happening. It's all theater. McConnell always points to the outfield seats and says he's going to hit a homer and then hits a single or strikes out. That's how he rolls.


I got to disagree with you here Clyde. I think the threat is real. It’s why they pushed ACB. It’s why they keep mentioning electors - they’re going to try to get them to deflect from the vote count.


Nope, the threat is what was discussed on the last page which is continued rhetorical warfare that turns everything into a vulgur us vs. them battleground

But as far as going after the election results they've struck out completely thus far, Barr's "investigation" is vapor and Jones Day attorneys are in rebellion over having their firm associated with this election fraud BS

It's rubbish and it will likely only galvanize the Democratic vote in GA while possibly hurting the GOP turnout

They pushed in ACB for this, but they needed a tighter vote in key swing states in order to push it up the court system to SCOTUS and they have failed miserably at this. Even sympathetic GOP judges throw out cases with no evidence and that's what is happening. NO man, it is not going to SCOTUS. fuggedaboudit

This is an incompetent ruse run by bungling criminals holding press conferences in landscaping parking lots with Rudy Drooliani. It's a joke. Just stop it with this panic already. IT IS NOT HAPPENING


Yes. Just like there’s no chance he’d contest the election it’s all just rhetoric. Right?

Don’t underestimate the desperation to stay in power. He has the backing of a lot of his higher party members. They’re trying to throw out the votes

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Post#1928 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:23 pm

Pointgod wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Just to reiterate, these aholes are not supporting Trump. They are trying to keep his followers invested in the GOP. They have zero faith that Trump will stay in power. We know they lack even a lick of honesty or sincerity. They don't for a second believe Trump is going to fancy dance his way into holding on to the WH. This is merely posing for his followers so they don't turn against them and cost them the run-offs in GA. That's all this is. It is not a coup in progress. That's dogchit. Ain't happening. It's all theater. McConnell always points to the outfield seats and says he's going to hit a homer and then hits a single or strikes out. That's how he rolls.


I got to disagree with you here Clyde. I think the threat is real. It’s why they pushed ACB. It’s why they keep mentioning electors - they’re going to try to get them to deflect from the vote count.


Are these electors willing to go to jail because it’s legally impossible for them to do this.


Precisely

I unpacked this BS days ago and one of the things I said is just because you are a registered Republican you are not going to put your neck on your line for a losing proposition and risk losing everything. These fricking state officials want to get re-elected, not taken down as the one who got caught committing fraud. The election is not even close at this point. There is no coordinated GOP effort across state boundaries unified and ready to overturn the people's vote.

One additional thought. There are still probably uncounted votes that were sandbagged by Louis DeJoy. The Democratic victory was almost surely larger than already documented due to losing some votes to GOP fraud. The only fraud going on is on the GOP side. The GOP knows it and they are not going to risk they necks on this fake election BS beyond mouthing the words without any conviction.

There is no there there here
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Post#1929 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:26 pm

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I got to disagree with you here Clyde. I think the threat is real. It’s why they pushed ACB. It’s why they keep mentioning electors - they’re going to try to get them to deflect from the vote count.


Nope, the threat is what was discussed on the last page which is continued rhetorical warfare that turns everything into a vulgur us vs. them battleground

But as far as going after the election results they've struck out completely thus far, Barr's "investigation" is vapor and Jones Day attorneys are in rebellion over having their firm associated with this election fraud BS

It's rubbish and it will likely only galvanize the Democratic vote in GA while possibly hurting the GOP turnout

They pushed in ACB for this, but they needed a tighter vote in key swing states in order to push it up the court system to SCOTUS and they have failed miserably at this. Even sympathetic GOP judges throw out cases with no evidence and that's what is happening. NO man, it is not going to SCOTUS. fuggedaboudit

This is an incompetent ruse run by bungling criminals holding press conferences in landscaping parking lots with Rudy Drooliani. It's a joke. Just stop it with this panic already. IT IS NOT HAPPENING


Yes. Just like there’s no chance he’d contest the election it’s all just rhetoric. Right?

Don’t underestimate the desperation to stay in power. He has the backing of a lot of his higher party members. They’re trying to throw out the votes

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Yeah, it is all just rhetoric

I ain't underestimating anything about this craven scoundrels and their willingness to cheat. They just don't have a shot at it.

SHOW ME ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE THEY'VE GOT

You can't

It's just hot air

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Post#1930 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:29 pm

Anyone Hunter Biden'd much lately?

That's the level of idiocy and effectiveness this election fraud fear mongering amounts to

Pure vapor
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Post#1931 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:39 pm

The real damage from this fear mongering is what it is doing to your minds

Do you enjoy being mind fckd by the GOP? Seems like it

You need to be better than them and that includes not feeding their propaganda machine by treating toothless threats as credible

All you do is roil the waters and feed to the frenzy and clashes with knuckle draggers who actually think Biden stole the election

do you want violence? Because that is what will happen if this rhetoric gets amplified at length

and it will continued to get amplified at length if you keep buying into it as a credible threat which only stokes the fires

It's trash. Treat it like trash
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Post#1932 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:48 pm

Dave Pell's newsletter today titled it perfectly:

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Post#1933 » by Appleshampoo » Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:20 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:The real damage from this fear mongering is what it is doing to your minds

Do you enjoy being mind fckd by the GOP? Seems like it

You need to be better than them and that includes not feeding their propaganda machine by treating toothless threats as credible

All you do is roil the waters and feed to the frenzy and clashes with knuckle draggers who actually think Biden stole the election

do you want violence? Because that is what will happen if this rhetoric gets amplified at length

and it will continued to get amplified at length if you keep buying into it as a credible threat which only stokes the fires

It's trash. Treat it like trash


Nobody here enjoys being mind fcked by the GOP. To say the fcking is just trash and ignore it is wrong. It's as if you think acknowledging the GOP relentlessness is helping their cause. What did laughing off the Tea Party get us? The ACA was branded communism, record court appointees blocked, court packing evangelicals, sabotage the grand bargain, little fast talking dweeb Ben Shapiro convincing college kids "liberalism is a disease." Take this threat lightly and prepare to get your face kicked in. They're working tirelessly to manufacture fake evidence. I am not counting out a republican state court listening to a case. I'm not counting out state legislators reversing their states results by referencing Brett's concurring opinion:

“If the apparent winner the morning after the election ends up losing due to late-arriving ballots, charges of a rigged election could explode. The longer after Election Day any significant changes in vote totals take place, the greater the risk that the losing side will cry that the election has been stolen.”
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Post#1935 » by K_ick_God » Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:36 pm

The issue is not whether T merely succeeds in overturning the result —I don’t think so. But this is a disruptive and corrosive thing. Remember when they challenged the debt limit and we all felt that was unusual and undemocratic? Well now we are here and that seems smaller doesn’t it?

It’s definitely not the case that you can always see the worst coming. That’s false.
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Post#1936 » by K_ick_God » Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:39 pm

... T’s very election itself was such an impossible thing. Joe was perfect today but more people, like the two lame leaders in Congress, need to enter the fray.

Schumer and Pelosi really need to go.
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Post#1937 » by Knick4Real » Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:42 pm

KnicksGod wrote:Disagree Clyde. His hold is very strong and Pelosi and Schumer are sitting around with their thumbs up their **** as T basically tells people he’s staying.

This isn’t normal and it’s not minor. He’s now denying the actual votes. Very serious.

We have time don’t worry — when has that ever worked out? Crap. People like Trump prey on goodwill and restraint.


Trump is so predictable, a bipartisan commission was enacted MONTHS ago in anticipation of his very actions right now. Comprised of ex-military generals, former congressional leaders, federal judges, etc., the group created a war games plan on what to do under these very circumstances. So, nobody is sitting on their hands or twiddling their thumbs. They worked out steps A thru Z just like they'd do in war and are implementing those steps behind the scenes as we speak. Just because we the public don't see it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/how-2020-election-could-go-wrong/614842/
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Post#1938 » by robillionaire » Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:53 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:The real damage from this fear mongering is what it is doing to your minds

Do you enjoy being mind fckd by the GOP? Seems like it

You need to be better than them and that includes not feeding their propaganda machine by treating toothless threats as credible

All you do is roil the waters and feed to the frenzy and clashes with knuckle draggers who actually think Biden stole the election

do you want violence? Because that is what will happen if this rhetoric gets amplified at length

and it will continued to get amplified at length if you keep buying into it as a credible threat which only stokes the fires

It's trash. Treat it like trash


They are a credible threat. We are now crossing our fingers and hoping that the normal systems and procedures can stop a regime that has acted outside of the norms every step of the way. Hoping that they will just decide to do the right thing when all indications are that they want a judicial coup and takeover of the country. And we are supposed to just sleepwalk through it? Even if they fail they need to be remembered for what they are doing. Treating it like it’s just a show and that they aren’t serious is dangerous and doesn’t give them the proper scrutiny that they deserve for this.
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Post#1939 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:56 pm

Appleshampoo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:The real damage from this fear mongering is what it is doing to your minds

Do you enjoy being mind fckd by the GOP? Seems like it

You need to be better than them and that includes not feeding their propaganda machine by treating toothless threats as credible

All you do is roil the waters and feed to the frenzy and clashes with knuckle draggers who actually think Biden stole the election

do you want violence? Because that is what will happen if this rhetoric gets amplified at length

and it will continued to get amplified at length if you keep buying into it as a credible threat which only stokes the fires

It's trash. Treat it like trash


Nobody here enjoys being mind fcked by the GOP. To say the fcking is just trash and ignore it is wrong. It's as if you think acknowledging the GOP relentlessness is helping their cause. What did laughing off the Tea Party get us? The ACA was branded communism, record court appointees blocked, court packing evangelicals, sabotage the grand bargain, little fast talking dweeb Ben Shapiro convincing college kids "liberalism is a disease." Take this threat lightly and prepare to get your face kicked in. They're working tirelessly to manufacture fake evidence. I am not counting out a republican state court listening to a case. I'm not counting out state legislators reversing their states results by referencing Brett's concurring opinion:

“If the apparent winner the morning after the election ends up losing due to late-arriving ballots, charges of a rigged election could explode. The longer after Election Day any significant changes in vote totals take place, the greater the risk that the losing side will cry that the election has been stolen.”


Did I say ignore it?

No, I said call it by its true name which is unsubstantiated lies with zero chance of success

And your Brett quote defeats itself. It only has any traction IF Trump were ahead now and Biden started to close the margins due to late arriving ballots which is precisely the opposite of the actual situation. Again, completely toothless in light of the current situation. If anything, late arriving ballots only improve Biden's situation, so this is just more BS, BS and BS just like Trump idiots in one state shouting "Count the Votes!" and shouting "Stop the Count!" in another state. These freaking mooks couldn't put a cap back on to a ketchup bottle without stripping the threads

So I'm not taking the threat lightly. It is a threat to future elections, just not this one. It is threat to proper voting in the future, but not this one.

The rhetoric is toxic as fk. It's a nightmare, but don't buy into the hype that they're going to overturn the result because they are not. Period.
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Post#1940 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:01 pm

robillionaire wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:The real damage from this fear mongering is what it is doing to your minds

Do you enjoy being mind fckd by the GOP? Seems like it

You need to be better than them and that includes not feeding their propaganda machine by treating toothless threats as credible

All you do is roil the waters and feed to the frenzy and clashes with knuckle draggers who actually think Biden stole the election

do you want violence? Because that is what will happen if this rhetoric gets amplified at length

and it will continued to get amplified at length if you keep buying into it as a credible threat which only stokes the fires

It's trash. Treat it like trash


They are a credible threat. We are now crossing our fingers and hoping that the normal systems and procedures can stop a regime that has acted outside of the norms every step of the way. Hoping that they will just decide to do the right thing when all indications are that they want a judicial coup and takeover of the country. And we are supposed to just sleepwalk through it? Even if they fail they need to be remembered for what they are doing. Treating it like it’s just a show and that they aren’t serious is dangerous and doesn’t give them the proper scrutiny that they deserve for this.


They are always a threat. Always will be

But what's your point about the election fraud hoax?

That it is a threat because it is credible?

or

That you think the threat is genuine because they will stop at nothing?

Two different animals

So be specific

The vote will not be overturned

Aside from that, I'm not minimizing the dangers of this rhetoric. It's bad and damaging to the future of his democracy and doesn't bode well for future elections unless the Democrats can reform the election process significantly to prevent funny business in the future

But the election stands. Anybody pretending they have a shot at overturning is a form of assistance to their propadanda. Just shoot it down for the BS that it is without minimizing the toxicity of it all

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