2020 Presidential Election Thread: IT'S THE FINAL (vote) COUNTDOWN! [update pg 61: Joe Biden elected 46th POTUS]

[Clyde_Style]

And you don’t think that should rightfully produce anger, anxiety and pushback? I def see your point about ignoring it in its essence as a matter of strategy and likely o outcome, and not overreacting, but I’m to the left of you on that for some line drawing reasons.

Yeah, not overreacting with righteous anger to unmitigated and unrelenting BS is a good idea

that is not a matter of where you sit on the left to right spectrum though. It is just a colossal strategic failure to fan the flames of lies with over the top indignant fear mongering

Just say to any true believer:

0-9 in court so far. It can never go to SCOTUS if lower courts toss out everything for lack of evidence. The vote count will stand. You've got nothing. Have a nice day

Fair and convincing reply.

This must be what it feels like when your child starts seriously dating a person you know really sucks.

That really would suck. Then you have to hope she gets out unscathed while learning her lesson

[Clyde_Style]

Trump will expose all the fraud on Hannity tonight.

Are you developing a sense of irony Kampuchea?

I assumed he was going to reveal how 50% of the funds he is collecting for the "Election Defense Fund" go to pay off his own debt.


https://secure.winred.com/djt/election-defense-fund-v2?location=djtwebredbar?utm_medium=web&utm_source=djt_web&utm_content=redbar

At the bottom

"50% of each contribution, up to a maximum of $2,800 ($5,000), to be designated toward DJTFP’s 2020 general election account for general election debt retirement until such debt is retired."

Yeah, we are aware of it here

But he doesn't read fine print. He lets other people write it for him

[Kampuchea]

Here is Biden Fight Fund
https://secure.joebiden.com/a/bidenfightfund?attr=100839588

[K_ick_God]

I meant January 19. I also I didn’t mean my desire to see Pelosi and Schumer do more than what they’re doing is more leftist. Just not as passive about this particular problem.

[Clyde_Style]

I meant January 19. I also I didn’t mean my desire to see Pelosi and Schumer do more than what they’re doing is more leftist. Just not as passive about this particular problem.

What do you want them to do?

[K_ick_God]

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[K_ick_God]

I meant January 19. I also I didn’t mean my desire to see Pelosi and Schumer do more than what they’re doing is more leftist. Just not as passive about this particular problem.

What do you want them to do?

I don’t know till I see it or had to think it through. But pat statements seem to be part of how we got here.

[Clyde_Style]

I meant January 19. I also I didn’t mean my desire to see Pelosi and Schumer do more than what they’re doing is more leftist. Just not as passive about this particular problem.

What do you want them to do?

I don’t know till I see it or had to think it through. But pat statements seem to be part of how we got here.

TBH, you saying you want them to do more without having any idea about what that would entail is the pat statement then

My suggestion is don't say such things unless you know what you really want to be done

Knee jerk resentment towards Pelosi and Schumer really has nothing to do with what their options are

I'll tell you what the options are though:

An army of lawyers behind the scenes are shutting down every GOP retained lawyer like clockwork

Schumer and Pelosi don't need to do squat about that. It's already being done

So I have no idea what some of you expect them to say, really

[K_ick_God]

Eh yes and no and maybe. You’re assuming that the system has all these safeguards, but it still depends on goodwill. The safeguards are there kind of more as a last resort.

Watch what the GOP are saying. Are they backing up a fact-free denial of votes? Yes. All of them. That’s more of an issue than the viability of T’s lawsuits.

Do you think the GOP is not capable of going from what they’re saying NOW to ‘This election was stolen from Donald Trump.’

They’re right there. Maybe they don’t cross the line but you can’t rely on their goodwill or reasoning.

This is the same group that sat a justice who obviously committed perjury to Congress. How did the system do there?

To me their lies and their lack of concession is pretty dangerous. Do you think the 3dR woke up one day and telegraphed that they were about to cross the border into Poland, asked for support from their people first, or gave the process a chance to catch up?

That’s not how it works.

[K_ick_God]

Pelosi and Schumer are old and out of touch and they’re really weak.

[HarthorneWingo]

Putin is calling the shots from Moscow

[Dranae]

What do you want them to do?

I don’t know till I see it or had to think it through. But pat statements seem to be part of how we got here.

TBH, you saying you want them to do more without having any idea about what that would entail is the pat statement then

My suggestion is don't say such things unless you know what you really want to be done

Knee jerk resentment towards Pelosi and Schumer really has nothing to do with what their options are

I'll tell you what the options are though:

An army of lawyers behind the scenes are shutting down every GOP retained lawyer like clockwork

Schumer and Pelosi don't need to do squat about that. It's already being done

So I have no idea what some of you expect them to say, really

Yeah, I'm not sure they can do more.

Even so, people still need to see their elected leaders fight the good fight. It's the optics. This is the kind of thing fueling the Dems are weak narratives.

That mess probably doesn't work with most of us in this thread but your average voter needs the showmanship to reassure them.

I'd send the party's best communicators out on a media blitz. Pull a Glenn Beck with whiteboards, charts, etc. And Mayor Pete can camp out at Fox News and appear on every show ethering all their BS.

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[K_ick_God]

Putin is calling the shots from Moscow

Nothing would surprise me anymore.

I think it’s just T himself but don’t really know ofc. His hold on their 38% is a bigger problem to me.

Meanwhile Joe got the biggest share of a non-incumbent challenger’s vote in a very long time. Strong popular will and yet T is digging in.

I don’t think people understand the pathology of someone who just takes what he wants and says catch me if you can. You can catch him yes but you must be forceful and you must nip it in the bud if you can.

What normal process has T given in to so far, tell me? Not much. People think he will “this time.” He hasn’t really yet and the bigger the spotlight the more he acts criminally.

[8516knicks]

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I am nervous to see what people like this do if/when it is official that Biden is the president. I suspect there will be a good amount of ugliness sparked over the country. The only difference is they'll call themselves patriots for doing stuff they condemned when people were outraged for human rights issues...

I KNEW I'd seen that guy before --
https://www.writtenby.com/writtenby/images/2016/Pat-McCormick3.jpg

[Pointgod]

Okay I’m tired of you sad sacks screaming about how Trump is going to steal the election. You tried the same thing before the election saying that Trump would stop the count when he’s ahead and myself and other posters calmly explained to you why that wasn’t possible based on logic and the law.

Now you’re claiming he’s going to somehow throw out votes that have already been counted and were 100% legitimately casted. Please walk me through a step by step of how this will happen. We will see 270+ votes certified by each state in the coming weeks and in December the electors will meet and vote for Joe Biden. It’s over for Trump, he’s lost, he’s a loser and if he was as confident as he tweets he wouldn’t have been hiding in his bunker over the past 5 days.

You know what the Republicans care more about that sucking Trump’s dick? Winning two seats in the Georgia runoff in January. They want you to be distracted and keep your eye off what’s really important. If anyone is that concerned they should be volunteering to help register and get out voters in Georgia for the special election.

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[stuporman]

Okay I’m tired of you sad sacks screaming about how Trump is going to steal the election.

Can you quote these sad sacks screaming about how Trump is going to steal the election because I must have missed them all and would love to address it.

[K_ick_God]

Point taken and don't strongly disagree but I think it's a different thing between stopping vote-counting and some guy who just refuses to leave. What about the sheer danger of him riling up his voters? Why should law enforcement have to work harder to protect the president because of one guy? No that's not okay.

You guys are looking at it through one lens -- will it work to keep him in office? There are other issues with letting corruption and lies fester.

[aq_ua]

Okay I’m tired of you sad sacks screaming about how Trump is going to steal the election. You tried the same thing before the election saying that Trump would stop the count when he’s ahead and myself and other posters calmly explained to you why that wasn’t possible based on logic and the law.

Now you’re claiming he’s going to somehow throw out votes that have already been counted and were 100% legitimately casted. Please walk me through a step by step of how this will happen. We will see 270+ votes certified by each state in the coming weeks and in December the electors will meet and vote for Joe Biden. It’s over for Trump, he’s lost, he’s a loser and if he was as confident as he tweets he wouldn’t have been hiding in his bunker over the past 5 days.

You know what the Republicans care more about that sucking Trump’s dick? Winning two seats in the Georgia runoff in January. They want you to be distracted and keep your eye off what’s really important. If anyone is that concerned they should be volunteering to help register and get out voters in Georgia for the special election.

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I agree - the GOP strategy does seem to be to distract from the Georgia senate race by allowing the media to amplify the voter fraud legal action stories. Dems seem to be so satisfied with a Biden victory that the same passion to turn out for Georgia senate candidates will likely be lacking.

[Clyde_Style]

Eh yes and no and maybe. You’re assuming that the system has all these safeguards, but it still depends on goodwill. The safeguards are there kind of more as a last resort.

Watch what the GOP are saying. Are they backing up a fact-free denial of votes? Yes. All of them. That’s more of an issue than the viability of T’s lawsuits.

Do you think the GOP is not capable of going from what they’re saying NOW to ‘This election was stolen from Donald Trump.’

They’re right there. Maybe they don’t cross the line but you can’t rely on their goodwill or reasoning.

This is the same group that sat a justice who obviously committed perjury to Congress. How did the system do there?

To me their lies and their lack of concession is pretty dangerous. Do you think the 3dR woke up one day and telegraphed that they were about to cross the border into Poland, asked for support from their people first, or gave the process a chance to catch up?

That’s not how it works.

Goodwill Schmoodwill

I said the Dems lawyers are mowing down the GOP's lawyers like bowling pins

THAT'S HOW IT WORKS
(but thanks for the civics lesson )

[Clyde_Style]

I don’t know till I see it or had to think it through. But pat statements seem to be part of how we got here.

TBH, you saying you want them to do more without having any idea about what that would entail is the pat statement then

My suggestion is don't say such things unless you know what you really want to be done

Knee jerk resentment towards Pelosi and Schumer really has nothing to do with what their options are

I'll tell you what the options are though:

An army of lawyers behind the scenes are shutting down every GOP retained lawyer like clockwork

Schumer and Pelosi don't need to do squat about that. It's already being done

So I have no idea what some of you expect them to say, really

Yeah, I'm not sure they can do more.

Even so, people still need to see their elected leaders fight the good fight. It's the optics. This is the kind of thing fueling the Dems are weak narratives.

That mess probably doesn't work with most of us in this thread but your average voter needs the showmanship to reassure them.

I'd send the party's best communicators out on a media blitz. Pull a Glenn Beck with whiteboards, charts, etc. And Mayor Pete can camp out at Fox News and appear on every show ethering all their BS.

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The optics are these guys are farting toxic farts that will end up blowing back on them

Biden let Trump set himself on fire and it worked. This is not really much different

The electoral process is being attacked verbally and it stinks, but that's all it amounts to

Road shows, white boards? Nah, just need to chill and let these asswipes shoot their wad while the adults wipe the floor with them behind the scenes