Windhorst: Phoenix Suns have had discussions about acquiring Chris Paul

[Packbuckman]

Suns insider (not Flex) reported this last week.

This is my prediction:

Suns get: Paul, OKC 25th pick
Thunder get: Wiggins, 2pick
GSW gets Rubio and Oubre

Suns shouldn't need to give up the 10 as they are taking on a massive contract and giving up 2 very valuable players.

That doesn’t make a lot of sense for the Warriors

I disagree.

They get an excellent point guard in Rubio, who is still "only" 30 and they get Oubre, who is probably a better overall player than Wiggins.

Whoever Golden St got at #2 probably would not help immediately, which is what GS needs. Curry is 32, Green and Thompson are 30. They have a roughly 3-4 year window.

Depends if wiseman is there at 2 then if I am GS I am taking him you can’t teach size and that’s what they need this kid starts from day one on that team.

[celticfan42487]

Anyone else and it seems like an empty get me to the conference finals trade at the cost of the future.

For the Suns getting to the conference finals would be a terrific result, not a disappointment and neither Rubio nor Oubre are any part of their future. Odd take.

Rubio just turned 30 last month.

Oubre is a 24 year old just starting his prime putting up about 20 and 6 for them. I hope he sure as hell is more apart of their future than a 35 year old PG who may have his athleticism taken by father time by next season.

It's a pretty obvious take and really easy to see the point here. Odd to call it odd.

[timO]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yx83qr67

deal

and if you switch picks 10 for 25 even more

[Scalabrine]

My biggest question from this would be, where does Rubio end up? I assume he gets shipped out and OKC is probably ready to hand the keys to SGA.

Suns insider (not Flex) reported this last week.

This is my prediction:

Suns get: Paul, OKC 25th pick
Thunder get: Wiggins, 2pick
GSW gets Rubio and Oubre

Suns shouldn't need to give up the 10 as they are taking on a massive contract and giving up 2 very valuable players.

If the Thunder get the number 2 pick for Chris Paul then they are geniuses.

I think that if Oubre doesnt get traded in a CP3 deal that the Warriors will likely use their TPE and a future 1st on him. The Suns will be looking to free up some cap space to go after Fred Van Vleet. Outside of CP3, he's the best fit for that roster and if they can clear our Oubre's deal then they will have plenty of space for him.

[MotownMadness]

Anyone else and it seems like an empty get me to the conference finals trade at the cost of the future.

For the Suns getting to the conference finals would be a terrific result, not a disappointment and neither Rubio nor Oubre are any part of their future. Odd take.

Rubio just turned 30 last month.

Oubre is a 24 year old just starting his prime putting up about 20 and 6 for them. I hope he sure as hell is more apart of their future than a 35 year old PG who may have his athleticism taken by father time by next season.

It's a pretty obvious take and really easy to see the point here. Odd to call it odd.

Oubre is a UFA looking to get paid. Have to also consider this and not just that hes young

[celticfan42487]

For the Suns getting to the conference finals would be a terrific result, not a disappointment and neither Rubio nor Oubre are any part of their future. Odd take.

Rubio just turned 30 last month.

Oubre is a 24 year old just starting his prime putting up about 20 and 6 for them. I hope he sure as hell is more apart of their future than a 35 year old PG who may have his athleticism taken by father time by next season.

It's a pretty obvious take and really easy to see the point here. Odd to call it odd.

Oubre is a UFA looking to get paid. Have to also consider this and not just that hes young

Well I hope they can do better than CP3s contract for the next 5 years in one of the worst markets for free agents in a long time.

[Ballerhogger]

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[OkcSinceSGA]

According to a Knicks podcaster/writer the talks have become more advanced today and there is discussion with the Clippers+Mavs to make this a 4 way trade. Praying that the Clippers are going for Brunson or Rubio. They were #1 and #2 on my PG target list (of semi realistic options).

[kombayn]

I've always thought that the Suns landing CP3 makes a lot of sense. Living in Arizona is a plus for a lot of athletes too because of it's central location between LA, San Diego & Vegas.

I mean I guess its close to there but Phoenix is east of all of those places. Definitely not in between.

I'm saying for driving or flying. It's a spot that spreads out very evenly. Driving it's 6 to 7 hours to SoCal, 4 to 5 hours to Vegas, so a quick flight in an hour for him. Big factors have to be playing with this young core and being coached by Monty again.

[SkyBill40]

Just... no.

Paul's contract, no matter what he might bring as a player despite his highly advanced age, is a dealbreaker and it just isn't worth it over Rubio AND Oubre seeing that's what it would cost to acquire him. Rubio is an actual distributor and looks to do that first; Paul, while a solid distributor, is primarily looking to score and we don't need any more of that.

This tells me you haven’t watched Chris Paul. The guy was our best player and fourth in usage on the team.

Actually, it doesn't tell you anything other than I don't think that the trade is worth it. I've watched Paul plenty. Stop making assumptions based in ignorance.

If he's so great, keep him. We don't need him and most here don't want him.

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[ThunderBolt]

Just... no.

Paul's contract, no matter what he might bring as a player despite his highly advanced age, is a dealbreaker and it just isn't worth it over Rubio AND Oubre seeing that's what it would cost to acquire him. Rubio is an actual distributor and looks to do that first; Paul, while a solid distributor, is primarily looking to score and we don't need any more of that.

This tells me you haven’t watched Chris Paul. The guy was our best player and fourth in usage on the team.

Actually, it doesn't tell you anything other than I don't think that the trade is worth it. I've watched Paul plenty. Stop making assumptions based in ignorance.

If he's so great, keep him. We don't need him and most here don't want him.

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You said Paul is primarily looking to score. That isn't true. All NBA players that are fourth on their team in usage aren't primarily looking to score. Don't get mad. Just move on.

[kombayn]

According to a Knicks podcaster/writer the talks have become more advanced today and there is discussion with the Clippers+Mavs to make this a 4 way trade. Praying that the Clippers are going for Brunson or Rubio. They were #1 and #2 on my PG target list (of semi realistic options).

Ideally getting Ricky Rubio and getting rid of Pat Beverly would be nice. Trez can go kick rocks somewhere being overpaid, ideally we can snag a pick for him. Only person I would keep right now is Magic City Lou out of the 4 problem players (Bev/Trez/Lou/Morris).

[QMaster]

This tells me you haven’t watched Chris Paul. The guy was our best player and fourth in usage on the team.

Actually, it doesn't tell you anything other than I don't think that the trade is worth it. I've watched Paul plenty. Stop making assumptions based in ignorance.

If he's so great, keep him. We don't need him and most here don't want him.

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You said Paul is primarily looking to score. That isn't true. All NBA players that are fourth on their team in usage aren't primarily looking to score. Don't get mad. Just move on.

Dude most people would disagree with that notion. If CP3 is just looking to score then so is Steven Adams, Rajon Rondo and Ricky Rubio

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[Scalabrine]

According to a Knicks podcaster/writer the talks have become more advanced today and there is discussion with the Clippers+Mavs to make this a 4 way trade. Praying that the Clippers are going for Brunson or Rubio. They were #1 and #2 on my PG target list (of semi realistic options).

Ideally getting Ricky Rubio and getting rid of Pat Beverly would be nice. Trez can go kick rocks somewhere being overpaid, ideally we can snag a pick for him. Only person I would keep right now is Magic City Lou out of the 4 problem players (Bev/Trez/Lou/Morris).

The problem there is that you let those guys walk and you have no resources to replace them outside the MLE. It's either pay them or replace them with players that are much worse.

[kombayn]

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Looks like we're about to get our first deal done in the NBA off-season. I'm assuming Ricky Rubio & Kelly Oubre, Jr. are the fundamental pieces to the deal. I would think CP3 would want Oubre to stay, but plenty of suitors for Ricky Rubio on another team. It seems Devin Booker signed off as well, wouldn't see why he would. You get to play with a Hall of Fame Point Guard who was 2nd All NBA last year and 7th in MVP voting. Monty Williams will like having someone who knows his coaching style and system too.

[SkyBill40]

This tells me you haven’t watched Chris Paul. The guy was our best player and fourth in usage on the team.

Actually, it doesn't tell you anything other than I don't think that the trade is worth it. I've watched Paul plenty. Stop making assumptions based in ignorance.

If he's so great, keep him. We don't need him and most here don't want him.

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You said Paul is primarily looking to score. That isn't true. All NBA players that are fourth on their team in usage aren't primarily looking to score. Don't get mad. Just move on.

Paul DOES look to score; Rubio looks to facilitate. There's a difference and scoring isn't necessary as we have plenty of that to go around.

Maybe Paul had to look to score more in OKC because he had to, but that doesn't mean he won't be leaned in or feel a need to do the same here. We don't need Paul and he isn't a good fit here. Three years ago maybe, but not now.

Try again, dude. Not mad. Not even remotely.

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[ThunderBolt]

Actually, it doesn't tell you anything other than I don't think that the trade is worth it. I've watched Paul plenty. Stop making assumptions based in ignorance.

If he's so great, keep him. We don't need him and most here don't want him.

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You said Paul is primarily looking to score. That isn't true. All NBA players that are fourth on their team in usage aren't primarily looking to score. Don't get mad. Just move on.

Paul DOES look to score; Rubio looks to facilitate. There's a difference and scoring isn't necessary as we have plenty of that to go around.

Maybe Paul had to look to score more in OKC because he had to, but that doesn't mean he won't be leaned in or feel a need to do the same here. We don't need Paul and he isn't a good fit here. Three years ago maybe, but not now.

Try again, dude. Not mad. Not even remotely.

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Well Oubre and Rubio averaged 31 ppg for Phoenix. So if they are traded, Phoenix would need some scoring from Paul.

Secondly, you do realize I’m not the one making the trade, right? If Phoenix doesn’t need Paul and he isn’t a good fit then tell your GM to quit talking to Presti.

[LV-Suns]

Rubio just turned 30 last month.

Oubre is a 24 year old just starting his prime putting up about 20 and 6 for them. I hope he sure as hell is more apart of their future than a 35 year old PG who may have his athleticism taken by father time by next season.

It's a pretty obvious take and really easy to see the point here. Odd to call it odd.

Oubre is a UFA looking to get paid. Have to also consider this and not just that hes young

Well I hope they can do better than CP3s contract for the next 5 years in one of the worst markets for free agents in a long time.

That's ridiculous. He only has 2 years left on his contract. I doubt we are getting any big free agents this year or next year with the current team.

[QMaster]

You said Paul is primarily looking to score. That isn't true. All NBA players that are fourth on their team in usage aren't primarily looking to score. Don't get mad. Just move on.

Paul DOES look to score; Rubio looks to facilitate. There's a difference and scoring isn't necessary as we have plenty of that to go around.

Maybe Paul had to look to score more in OKC because he had to, but that doesn't mean he won't be leaned in or feel a need to do the same here. We don't need Paul and he isn't a good fit here. Three years ago maybe, but not now.

Try again, dude. Not mad. Not even remotely.

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Well Oubre and Rubio averaged 31 ppg for Phoenix. So if they are traded, Phoenix would need some scoring from Paul.

Secondly, you do realize I’m not the one making the trade, right? If Phoenix doesn’t need Paul and he isn’t a good fit then tell your GM to quit talking to Presti.

Not sure how a good defending, high level facilitating and shooting pg isn't a good fit next to booker, least one who has had a high impact on winning games for 15 years.....not sure who is a good fit then

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[celticfan42487]

Oubre is a UFA looking to get paid. Have to also consider this and not just that hes young

Well I hope they can do better than CP3s contract for the next 5 years in one of the worst markets for free agents in a long time.

That's ridiculous. He only has 2 years left on his contract. I doubt we are getting any big free agents this year or next year with the current team.

You realize he's 35 right. And could suck next year, right? And Booker and Ayton are an amazing young core that haven't entered their prime correct?

The time to strike isn't next year. Same thing with the Celtics with a Brown and Tatum core.

This is the exact type of short sightedness of a trade that leads to a Booker and then Ayton demanding trades in 2 years because there's nothing on the team for them to play with.

You need to be collecting pieces for Book and Ayton's timeline, not an Owners wishes for playoff money (if possible, I understand if the Suns owner is forcing it. It wouldn't be the first time an Owner is screwing over a franchise with short sighted moves).