BaF Season 4- Opening Night 12/1- (Announcement page 57)

[SOUL]

Also for small improvements, I wonder how much the announcing players officially signing to teams takes for bish, I think that should not take precedence over letting people know if their bids were beaten or not. Something like just updating the stickied thread with an update "x player has signed with a team" with all of the won players being announced to the specific teams later in the day in one big batch might work better. If that had no effect at all then ignore that bish, but if it was affecting time to respond to people, I think it may cut some time off.

[2010]

I dont see how Pooch’s proposal will work. You’ll be locked in your bids and can’t alter them. It’s going to be a complete mess when you factor in free agency rankings. Imagine bidding on a player for $80 but losing him for $60 cause your rankings was lower and you couldn’t alter your bid.

Very good point.

As bish has stated, at the very least freeze periods and adding in Bird Rights FA holds is the starting point. Those changes are a given. The rest need more examination.

Its the bare minimum...it will still be way to much to handle especially for 2022 FA.

Yeah, but at this point we need more time to come up with a collective proposal that addresses everyones concerns and is feasible for bish to operate efficiently.

[mpharris36]

Very good point.

As bish has stated, at the very least freeze periods and adding in Bird Rights FA holds is the starting point. Those changes are a given. The rest need more examination.

Its the bare minimum...it will still be way to much to handle especially for 2022 FA.

Yeah, but at this point we need more time to come up with a collective proposal that addresses everyones concerns and is feasible for bish to operate efficiently.

agreed.

[bringbackhoffa]

Bish received 191 bids on Sunday (1st day).

Lets assume with every team able to spend money that could be over 500 easily probably more.

We would literally need to make the bidding periods like in 1-2 hour incriments. Like that is the only time you can submit a bid.

Then bish gets a few hours to post and update everything. Then another bidding period starts again so on and so forth.

It would require some heavy periods but the periods could last for more than an hour or two because it would be too much.

It would be challenging but could work but everyone would have to be around for the "bidding times" and bish would have to be around heavy during those periods so that people knew they were sending in winning bids.

And that was with 1 superstar...

agreed the freezing works perfectly for us....its the bare minimum help for bish which is why he asked for help in the first place we got to add something to it to help.

I dont see a way of getting messages down without some concessions on our part. This is likely a disaster waiting to happen 30 teams with over 500 bucks minimum to spend some with 1000 bucks to spend. Your likely looking at a minimum of 500 messages the first day alone if not more.

[mpharris36]

And that was with 1 superstar...

agreed the freezing works perfectly for us....its the bare minimum help for bish which is why he asked for help in the first place we got to add something to it to help.

I dont see a way of getting messages down without some concessions on our part. This is likely a disaster waiting to happen 30 teams with over 500 bucks minimum to spend some with 1000 bucks to spend. Your likely looking at a minimum of 500 messages the first day alone if not more.

I mean just look at from the bottom few teams in terms of cap.

I'd guess LAL, DET, BOS, and me had many less than 5 FA bids in FA on day 1. My guess is the combined 4 of us will be well over 100 bids in 2022 day 1

[SOUL]

Markus Howard measured at 5'9?!

[bishnykfan]

Bish received 191 bids on Sunday (1st day).

Lets assume with every team able to spend money that could be over 500 easily probably more.

We would literally need to make the bidding periods like in 1-2 hour incriments. Like that is the only time you can submit a bid.

Then bish gets a few hours to post and update everything. Then another bidding period starts again so on and so forth.

It would require some heavy periods but the periods could last for more than an hour or two because it would be too much.

It would be challenging but could work but everyone would have to be around for the "bidding times" and bish would have to be around heavy during those periods so that people knew they were sending in winning bids.

Been a long day and I'm getting tired so I'll just throw a last idea out there. Would there be an issue if each team was allowed one PM/bid per hour? They could bid on as many players in that bid as they choose as long as the bids are legal cap wise.

If we did a 6AM-7AM bid then a 7AM-8AM freeze where I read at the most 30 PM's, updated who was leading the bidding, told each team what would be needed etc. then reopened the bidding from 8-9 so teams could renegotiate their deal/up their offer etc. if they could and wanted to. Only change I can envision would be the fact that a large group of players would potentially all sign at the same time rather then scattered throughout the day. But it would put all 30 teams on the same ground and would alleviate the issue that SOUL mentioned. We wouldn't even have to do this for more than the first few days of FA just to get us through that initial surge in bids.

Each team could make their initial bid in that opening hour then wait to find out where they stand on all of the players they bid on. That next hour they have the opportunity to go higher or move to a different player. Each hour the high bids will be updated. Kind of like a modified silent auction done hourly.

I'm sure that there is some downside to this that someone will think of but it's another thought I had.

[SOUL]

But it would put all 30 teams on the same ground and would alleviate the issue that SOUL mentioned.

The SOUL Rule?

[bishnykfan]

The Indiana Pacers have agreed to sign:




Jalen Harris for $1/4 years.

[3toheadmelo]

Bish received 191 bids on Sunday (1st day).

Lets assume with every team able to spend money that could be over 500 easily probably more.

We would literally need to make the bidding periods like in 1-2 hour incriments. Like that is the only time you can submit a bid.

Then bish gets a few hours to post and update everything. Then another bidding period starts again so on and so forth.

It would require some heavy periods but the periods could last for more than an hour or two because it would be too much.

It would be challenging but could work but everyone would have to be around for the "bidding times" and bish would have to be around heavy during those periods so that people knew they were sending in winning bids.

Been a long day and I'm getting tired so I'll just throw a last idea out there. Would there be an issue if each team was allowed one PM/bid per hour? They could bid on as many players in that bid as they choose as long as the bids are legal cap wise.

If we did a 6AM-7AM bid then a 7AM-8AM freeze where I read at the most 30 PM's, updated who was leading the bidding, told each team what would be needed etc. then reopened the bidding from 8-9 so teams could renegotiate their deal/up their offer etc. if they could and wanted to. Only change I can envision would be the fact that a large group of players would potentially all sign at the same time rather then scattered throughout the day. But it would put all 30 teams on the same ground and would alleviate the issue that SOUL mentioned. We wouldn't even have to do this for more than the first few days of FA just to get us through that initial surge in bids.

Each team could make their initial bid in that opening hour then wait to find out where they stand on all of the players they bid on. That next hour they have the opportunity to go higher or move to a different player. Each hour the high bids will be updated. Kind of like a modified silent auction done hourly.

I'm sure that there is some downside to this that someone will think of but it's another thought I had.

I like it!

[mpharris36]

Bish received 191 bids on Sunday (1st day).

Lets assume with every team able to spend money that could be over 500 easily probably more.

We would literally need to make the bidding periods like in 1-2 hour incriments. Like that is the only time you can submit a bid.

Then bish gets a few hours to post and update everything. Then another bidding period starts again so on and so forth.

It would require some heavy periods but the periods could last for more than an hour or two because it would be too much.

It would be challenging but could work but everyone would have to be around for the "bidding times" and bish would have to be around heavy during those periods so that people knew they were sending in winning bids.

Been a long day and I'm getting tired so I'll just throw a last idea out there. Would there be an issue if each team was allowed one PM/bid per hour? They could bid on as many players in that bid as they choose as long as the bids are legal cap wise.

If we did a 6AM-7AM bid then a 7AM-8AM freeze where I read at the most 30 PM's, updated who was leading the bidding, told each team what would be needed etc. then reopened the bidding from 8-9 so teams could renegotiate their deal/up their offer etc. if they could and wanted to. Only change I can envision would be the fact that a large group of players would potentially all sign at the same time rather then scattered throughout the day. But it would put all 30 teams on the same ground and would alleviate the issue that SOUL mentioned. We wouldn't even have to do this for more than the first few days of FA just to get us through that initial surge in bids.

Each team could make their initial bid in that opening hour then wait to find out where they stand on all of the players they bid on. That next hour they have the opportunity to go higher or move to a different player. Each hour the high bids will be updated. Kind of like a modified silent auction done hourly.

I'm sure that there is some downside to this that someone will think of but it's another thought I had.

I think that could work. I know with only 1 bid per hour and multiple big names I'm sure people will want to make sure they still have room for backup plans. Maybe we could extend the amount of time a guy signs. 6 hours may not be enough since that would only be 6 bidding periods.

It would also make bids count more. People would stop making slow bids and get right to the point which I think is good.

The only thing though is big guys are being focused on then then the less popular guys could get some real steals because you wont be able to multi task with this system...that I why I think early if the required more time for a guy to sign so people or at least if w sent you all the guys were were interested in just so we could keep track of guys but only formally submit 1 bid per hour.

Or if you have 2 FA's you basically would just have to alterate your bids to keep them going which isn't the worst case scenario. It would be a way to limit bids for you and I am all for making your life easier.

[Smash3]

Bish received 191 bids on Sunday (1st day).

Lets assume with every team able to spend money that could be over 500 easily probably more.

We would literally need to make the bidding periods like in 1-2 hour incriments. Like that is the only time you can submit a bid.

Then bish gets a few hours to post and update everything. Then another bidding period starts again so on and so forth.

It would require some heavy periods but the periods could last for more than an hour or two because it would be too much.

It would be challenging but could work but everyone would have to be around for the "bidding times" and bish would have to be around heavy during those periods so that people knew they were sending in winning bids.

Been a long day and I'm getting tired so I'll just throw a last idea out there. Would there be an issue if each team was allowed one PM/bid per hour? They could bid on as many players in that bid as they choose as long as the bids are legal cap wise.

If we did a 6AM-7AM bid then a 7AM-8AM freeze where I read at the most 30 PM's, updated who was leading the bidding, told each team what would be needed etc. then reopened the bidding from 8-9 so teams could renegotiate their deal/up their offer etc. if they could and wanted to. Only change I can envision would be the fact that a large group of players would potentially all sign at the same time rather then scattered throughout the day. But it would put all 30 teams on the same ground and would alleviate the issue that SOUL mentioned. We wouldn't even have to do this for more than the first few days of FA just to get us through that initial surge in bids.

Each team could make their initial bid in that opening hour then wait to find out where they stand on all of the players they bid on. That next hour they have the opportunity to go higher or move to a different player. Each hour the high bids will be updated. Kind of like a modified silent auction done hourly.

I'm sure that there is some downside to this that someone will think of but it's another thought I had.

I think that could work. I know with only 1 bid per hour and multiple big names I'm sure people will want to make sure they still have room for backup plans. Maybe we could extend the amount of time a guy signs. 6 hours may not be enough since that would only be 6 bidding periods.

It would also make bids count more. People would stop making slow bids and get right to the point which I think is good.

The only thing though is big guys are being focused on then then the less popular guys could get some real steals because you wont be able to multi task with this system...that I why I think early if the required more time for a guy to sign so people or at least if w sent you all the guys were were interested in just so we could keep track of guys but only formally submit 1 bid per hour.

Or if you have 2 FA's you basically would just have to alterate your bids to keep them going which isn't the worst case scenario. It would be a way to limit bids for you and I am all for making your life easier.

The one PM per hour works, we’re not trying to find a system that eliminates steals as that’s part of FA.

[King of Canada]

The Indiana Pacers have agreed to sign:




Jalen Harris for $1/4 years.

Wrong Jalen Harris

[bringbackhoffa]

I like the 1 PM where you can have multiple bids but cannot go over the cap or roster slots. 1 additional suggestion would be to have a longer mid day freeze to allow for additional catch up if things get delayed as well just a break from doing this. Bidding every other hours still requires you to be glued to real gm for 15 hours a day for 1 or 2 weeks, especially Bish. Not sure how he would do it while at work.

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[El Poochio]

Guys what if every timestamp was adjusted according to the last bid for any player in FA? This way all the bids would be synched together and players would sign at the same time, no one will lose out on any player because their money was tied somewhere and Bish wont conclude any bids without informing someone's bid for etc has been beat

[El Poochio]

Markus Howard measured at 5'9?!

Shorter than me

[El Poochio]

Smash when he hears me trying to fix broken FA that was in favour of us

[bringbackhoffa]

Guys what if every timestamp was adjusted according to the last bid for any player in FA? This way all the bids would be synched together and players would sign at the same time, no one will lose out on any player because their money was tied somewhere and Bish wont conclude any bids without informing someone's bid for etc has been beat

But that could mean you could have been a low bidder on a player for 1 week and then all of a sudden someone plan changes and are back in a bidding war for that player while you have utilized cap space on being low on other players too

[El Poochio]

Guys what if every timestamp was adjusted according to the last bid for any player in FA? This way all the bids would be synched together and players would sign at the same time, no one will lose out on any player because their money was tied somewhere and Bish wont conclude any bids without informing someone's bid for etc has been beat

But that could mean you could have been a low bidder on a player for 1 week and then all of a sudden someone plan changes and are back in a bidding war for that player while you have utilized cap space on being low on other players too

So?

[bringbackhoffa]

Guys what if every timestamp was adjusted according to the last bid for any player in FA? This way all the bids would be synched together and players would sign at the same time, no one will lose out on any player because their money was tied somewhere and Bish wont conclude any bids without informing someone's bid for etc has been beat

But that could mean you could have been a low bidder on a player for 1 week and then all of a sudden someone plan changes and are back in a bidding war for that player while you have utilized cap space on being low on other players too

So?

Suppose you have $900 in cap space, have been low on AD for 1 week at $500, and have spend your remaining $400 on being low on other free agents. If someone decided to bid $501 on AD after you were low bidder for 1 week you would not be able to beat that bid unless someone beats on of your other bids to free up space. That would suck if AD was your prime target and the other players you bid on were to compliment him