Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21

[SuperDeluxe]

If you're only defining "deep in the playoffs" as WCF or Finals then it's been three years.

Yes, that would be my definition of "deep in the playoffs." You can't really consider 2011 because that was not Harden's but Durant's and Westbrook's team. Therefore, Harden has gone deep into the playoffs only twice in his illustrious eight-year career as go-to guy. Awful in my book for such a heavily marketed guy. He needs much more than 3-and-D guys around him. And he needs the officials in his pocket.

[MagicBagley18]

Regardless of what you may personally feel about harden...he’s gonna generate a lot of interest and ainge would inquire about price. Prob won’t happen here but you def throw out feelers. To me it’s got philly all over it.

A nets harden/KD reunion forming a super team is a concern tho. - ironically even if they could be a tragic disaster it’s a lot of talent.

[canman1971]

Yeah, I told Keith Smith five years ago that I thought he was blowing hot air about a trade, and I've been banned from the trade forum ever since.

Pretty sure Mr. Smith has come a long way in his career since then. I'd like to think a longtime poster like yourself you recognize that.

I'm glad his career is going well, but I didn't deserve the penalty.

Probably not. However we live in the present and we have all made choices I am sure that might not have been the best. But to rehash the past is counterproductive it all aspects of life.

[Curmudgeon]

Pretty sure Mr. Smith has come a long way in his career since then. I'd like to think a longtime poster like yourself you recognize that.

I'm glad his career is going well, but I didn't deserve the penalty.

Probably not. However we live in the present and we have all made choices I am sure that might not have been the best. But to rehash the past is counterproductive it all aspects of life.

Meh, tell that to the person who banned me.

[Jammer]

Read on Twitter

Now, that's interesting.
Westbrook wants Out, but Harden wants to Stay. OK.

Gotta respect Harden for that no? Harden is so good that any team he's on is a contender with even a modicum of roster construction. He knows with just some 3 and Ds around him he can go deep in the playoffs so there's no reason for him to want to leave. HOU is HIS team after all. I still think they can get something decent back in a Westbrook trade.

It cost Houston two 1rst's to get Westbrook. Be interesting to see what he could bring back. Ugly contract to go with his hero ball style. No thanks.

[BostonCouchGM]

If you're only defining "deep in the playoffs" as WCF or Finals then it's been three years.

Yes, that would be my definition of "deep in the playoffs." You can't really consider 2011 because that was not Harden's but Durant's and Westbrook's team. Therefore, Harden has gone deep into the playoffs only twice in his illustrious eight-year career as go-to guy. Awful in my book for such a heavily marketed guy. He needs much more than 3-and-D guys around him. And he needs the officials in his pocket.

could have saved all that typing and just said you irrationally hate James Harden.

[Ernest]

Pretty sure Mr. Smith has come a long way in his career since then. I'd like to think a longtime poster like yourself you recognize that.

I'm glad his career is going well, but I didn't deserve the penalty.

Probably not. However we live in the present and we have all made choices I am sure that might not have been the best. But to rehash the past is counterproductive it all aspects of life.

Yes, he who learns of the past is doomed to repeat it.

[robbie84]

If Rox blow it up would PJ Tucker be a better C option than Theis? Would be a pretty good small ball duo as a starter/bench combo

[FlatearthZorro]

If Rox blow it up would PJ Tucker be a better C option than Theis? Would be a pretty good small ball duo as a starter/bench combo

Nope, all Theis needs to do is to get more comfortable and confident in his 3 point shot and he's better than Tucker. I would love Tucker off of our bench tho. Huge boost and a guy who can make that corner 3 on regular basis. I would look into Covington as well- although that trade would be hard to pull off due to matching cash.

[RodyTur10]

Regardless of what you may personally feel about harden...he’s gonna generate a lot of interest and ainge would inquire about price. Prob won’t happen here but you def throw out feelers. To me it’s got philly all over it.

A nets harden/KD reunion forming a super team is a concern tho. - ironically even if they could be a tragic disaster it’s a lot of talent.

If Brooklyn can make a deal around Levert/Dinwiddie/Allen they could have a starting five: Irving/Harden/Prince/Durant/Jordan. Re-sign Harris as a 6th man. That's scary, even if Durant comes back as only 80% of what he was as a player.

[jmr07019]

Hayward and picks for Tucker, Covington and Gordon. Gordon as a shooter / 6th man off the bench. Tucker and Convington are perfect role players for us.

Kemba
Brown
Tatum
Covington
Theis

Smart Gordon Tucker Williams off the bench.

For Houston Gordon’s contract likely means he has negative trade value. They get to dump him. Covington has the highest trade value. We likely send 14 for him. Tucker is a perfect role player but he’s 34 on an expiring deal looking to get paid and only contenders would want him. Can’t see Tucker returning too much either. Given all that I think Hayward’s expiring and a pu pu platter of picks might actually interest Houston.

[SuperDeluxe]

If you're only defining "deep in the playoffs" as WCF or Finals then it's been three years.

Yes, that would be my definition of "deep in the playoffs." You can't really consider 2011 because that was not Harden's but Durant's and Westbrook's team. Therefore, Harden has gone deep into the playoffs only twice in his illustrious eight-year career as go-to guy. Awful in my book for such a heavily marketed guy. He needs much more than 3-and-D guys around him. And he needs the officials in his pocket.

could have saved all that typing and just said you irrationally hate James Harden.

Oops, sorry. Abridged version for the fact-averse: what you said is not true.

[31to6]

#noRockets
#JustSayNo

[ddb]

Hayward and picks for Tucker, Covington and Gordon. Gordon as a shooter / 6th man off the bench. Tucker and Convington are perfect role players for us.

Kemba
Brown
Tatum
Covington
Theis

Smart Gordon Tucker Williams off the bench.

For Houston Gordon’s contract likely means he has negative trade value. They get to dump him. Covington has the highest trade value. We likely send 14 for him. Tucker is a perfect role player but he’s 34 on an expiring deal looking to get paid and only contenders would want him. Can’t see Tucker returning too much either. Given all that I think Hayward’s expiring and a pu pu platter of picks might actually interest Houston.

no thanks.

[Curmudgeon]

I would do Hayward for RoCo, Tucxker and Gordon in a heartbeat. Then I would try to move Gordon to a third team.

[FakeScreenName123]

have we concluded what haywards trade value is?

im trying to be non biased this time

[Curmudgeon]

Who knows? I would guess that he has a fair amount of value for a team that wants to win now but without making long term commitments. Golden State or Denver fall into that category. He would also have value for franchises that are looking to save money by shedding long-term deals. Indiana is one of those teams, and it looks like Houston is gong to be another.

But does he have enough value to fetch a return that Ainge likes? Your guess is as good as mine, and I would not be surprised to see him return to the Celtics next year, at least until the trade deadline.

[themoneyteam2]

All I know is they are absolutely screwed if Hayward opts out and signs with another team. Need to find a way to recoup an asset for him

[31to6]

have we concluded what haywards trade value is?

im trying to be non biased this time

sup player, feels like a long time since Posey's mug has been around

[Darth Celtic]

Regardless of what you may personally feel about harden...he’s gonna generate a lot of interest and ainge would inquire about price. Prob won’t happen here but you def throw out feelers. To me it’s got philly all over it.

A nets harden/KD reunion forming a super team is a concern tho. - ironically even if they could be a tragic disaster it’s a lot of talent.

If Brooklyn can make a deal around Levert/Dinwiddie/Allen they could have a starting five: Irving/Harden/Prince/Durant/Jordan. Re-sign Harris as a 6th man. That's scary, even if Durant comes back as only 80% of what he was as a player.

and like 100m lux tax bill without winning a trophy.