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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#121 » by pepe1991 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:53 pm

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basketballRob wrote:According to a John Denton article his wingspan now is 7'6". You're still going by what he measured at when he was a junior in high school.

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lol wtf

"Measuring just under 6'11 in shoes at last year's Nike Hoop Summit, with a 7'1" wingspan - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jonathan-Isaac-90052/ DraftExpress"

Official nba measurments that were ( FINALLY ) set last year before season started had him listeda at 6'11 without shoes.

Ofc his arms didn't grow 3 inches at age of 22 so it's clear that Isaac has literally the most average wingspan for size you can find for basketball player. It's size + 3 inches.

Orlando Magic Daily, earlier this year also refered to his wingspan as factual- 7'1 in their article

What helps Isaac out is his length at his position. Being 6-foot-11 helps out Isaac out by allowing him to get to the rim more easily than most players. He has a 7-foot-1 wingspan (nine inches shorter than Mo Bamba‘s) helping him get up quality shots and helping him protect the rim and helping defend at a high level.
Listen to your logic, he measured 6'11" with shoes before. So w/o shoes he was 6'10" or less. So it is a fact that he grew since measuring a 7'1" wingspan.

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Bro, your biology teacher failed you. Limbs are first thing on body that grows in puberty and first parts that stop growing.
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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#122 » by basketballRob » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:58 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:
lol wtf

"Measuring just under 6'11 in shoes at last year's Nike Hoop Summit, with a 7'1" wingspan - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jonathan-Isaac-90052/ DraftExpress"

Official nba measurments that were ( FINALLY ) set last year before season started had him listeda at 6'11 without shoes.

Ofc his arms didn't grow 3 inches at age of 22 so it's clear that Isaac has literally the most average wingspan for size you can find for basketball player. It's size + 3 inches.

Orlando Magic Daily, earlier this year also refered to his wingspan as factual- 7'1 in their article

Listen to your logic, he measured 6'11" with shoes before. So w/o shoes he was 6'10" or less. So it is a fact that he grew since measuring a 7'1" wingspan.

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Bro, your biology teacher failed you. Limbs are first thing on body that grows in puberty and first parts that stop growing.
We do know based on the links you posted that he grew. John Denton says that his current wingspan in 7'6".

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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#123 » by Skin » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:08 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:Isaac looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger to Jaden and his brother.
it's telling that Jaden has older brother in nba, who looks copy past the same as him and did not develop his body at all

As far as Isaac goes, he had lot of time to develop his upper body because his lower body was always hurt :dontknow:
guy weared knee pads, ankle braces and still torn ACL and MCL

If THAT'S telling, do you want to see other pictures of NBA players' brothers??? :lol:

At 15, there isn't anyone who is flawless. I think there are a lot of other players who have higher floors than JM, but the Magic don't need more role players. They need to swing big. Whether that's a home run or foul ball, we have to take that swing. If he busts, he's a guy taken outside of the lottery and it had very little chance of succeeding anyways.

It's very easy to bash all the guys in this draft like you do, but do you have the balls to stand tall for another player at 15?

You say THIS is what the Magic should be doing. For 2 years in a row we've been a 1st round exit team. You WANT to be picking in this draft range. THIS is your preferred rebuilding effort. You should be promoting ALL of your top guys for us to take. There shouldn't be a few.


Jaden is 20, Jalen is 22. If i post picture of them you couldn't tell witch one is who. They look identical.

Jalen already plays in nba, at college in his second year he averaged 16ppg, 8 rpg, 2 apg, 52,5% TS.
Jalen freshman year at college : 13 ppg, 5,8 rpg,2,1 apg, 51% TS

Sure, one was frashman and other was sophmore but there is sooo little difference in the way they play, are built and they pretty much have identical skillset.

While those intrigued by him will point to his rangy frame and potential skill-set on the perimeter as a face-up forward, his detractors will point to the inconsistency, inefficiency and number of puzzling decisions he made on the court with the ball in his hands as a Fr as cause for concern … Seems to struggle, for whatever reason, to make the most of his abilities and often leaves you wanting more …. Not physically strong at all currently, would benefit from significantly adding weight to his 200 lb frame … A lot of his struggles seem to stem from his lack of physicality … While a solid athlete, McDaniels isn’t exactly twitchy and doesn’t have great explosiveness … Shows great ability and talent in spurts, but appears to lack the ability to sustain that level of focus and intensity … Struggles with things like finishing contested shots near the rim, post offense/defense, and playing through contact at the moment; should not be confused with a tough or physical player … Played nearly exclusively in zone defense in college, will be very green with NBA defensive concepts as a young player … Struggled to defend without fouling last season (3.3 fpg), while also demonstrating his raw defensive fundamentals and instincts by often reaching and not moving his feet or fouling players while opponents were well beyond the 3 point line … His overall feel for the game and shot selection needs improvement … He shot a lot of low percentage long 2s and didn’t hit them with any type of consistency … Must cut down on his turnovers (3.2 topg), often throwing lazy entry passes and has a habit of telegraphing what he intends to do … Doesn’t play without the ball particularly well, often is a complete non-factor in half court offense when plays aren’t run for him


This is are remarks of very,very average prospect who will need years to develop body and as many years to develop basketball skills. Not to mention that every single scouting report repeats same things: weak, not athletic, not quick.

How execlly will super skinny, not skilled, poor passer, very very weak player score in nba? Answer is probably very simple: he won't. This isn't really Ingram type guy, who was super skinny, but still dominated college due his lenght, agility and solid jumpshot.
He is more like DJ Wilson who was drafted 17# overall based on nothing but raw potential. Spoiler alert: 3 years later he still is same player.

But once again, you can't look at his brother , who is 2 years older, already in nba, and not use him as actual comparison. Same size, underweight, almost identical skills. Same issues.

OK this is getting weird. Are you really gonna stick to this idea that brothers are all the same? So I guess Brook Lopez and Robin Lopez are the same. Pau and Marc Gasol. Steph and Seth Curry. How about Michael Jordan and his brother? You and your brother? Brothers are all the same??? I've seen some weird justifications for stuff to prove a point, but this one might be the weirdest.

Not to mention their skill sets are NOT the same. The first thing that stands out is that Jaden shot .211 from 3 on 0.6 attempts per game in 24 mpg. So it's not like his shot attempts are low because he didn't play a lot of minutes. It just wasn't a part of his game. If that was the numbers that Jaden put up then we wouldn't be talking about him (at least I wouldn't). But Jaden is a much better shooter. He's a better shot creator, has more of a pull up jumper and an aggressive scoring mindset.

AND he's a much better defender. Just in terms of blocks, Jaden had more as a freshman (43) than Jalen's 2 years combined (35).

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He will naturally develop his body and get better, but his size now does not make him unplayable as if you're trying to suggest that. As a wing, he doesn't need to add the same kind of weight that he would need to if his position was that of a big. I agree that he needs to get smarter and he needs better coaching. The mental part of his game needs to improve. There are risks here with him that have scared me off of him in the past too... only to circle around back to him due to his upside, fit and lack of other great options at 15.

You lightly suggested that Saddiq Bey was your guy. I happen to like him too, so I'm not gonna bash him hard, but the cons in his scouting report is enough to scare you away just as easily as it is for Jaden. UNLESS, you DO want a guy who's upside is that of a role player. If you think he's gonna be more than a role player, then convince me. If he's not your guy, show me your CONVICTION for another. Like I said... it's easy to bash... Tell me who you want the Magic to take. As I've asked before and you failed to respond, THIS is exactly the draft range that a 1st round playoff team gets to pick. You are a strong proponent and LOVE the course the Magic are on, so show me how the Magic get to the next level. Don't give me a name like Nesmith or Hayes or some guy projected to be in the lottery. You don't get that right since you bash any talk of any of us who like picking higher in the draft whether it be trading up into it or having it dictated by record. Show me the non-lottery guy who is your bust proof star. I don't want no names of guys with high floors and low ceilings. None of those guys are gonna take the Magic another step forward. We don't have the luxury of using the draft for depth.
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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#124 » by pepe1991 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:11 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Listen to your logic, he measured 6'11" with shoes before. So w/o shoes he was 6'10" or less. So it is a fact that he grew since measuring a 7'1" wingspan.

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Bro, your biology teacher failed you. Limbs are first thing on body that grows in puberty and first parts that stop growing.
We do know based on the links you posted that he grew. John Denton says that his current wingspan in 7'6".

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He grew 1 inch in lenght ( maybe, probably just measurment errors within that 1 inch, or not to list him as 6'10 and half ) but how da *** grown a** man could grow 5 inches of wingspan? You do understand it's impossible, right?

Even grow all together is almost impossible after first puberty growing spurt. According to all studies, 92% of all body growth happends in first puberty "hit", so by the time kid turns 17 almost 99% of his growth is actually- done.
Now we talk about at times 22 years old player, how da hell he could grow f+** 12 cm of arms in one year ?

Very simple actually.. He couldn't. But media as usual are full of *** and like to over exaggerate everything. There was fake a*** rummor that Lebron James weighted 290 pounds in Miami :rofl: .
It's probably from same reports who think Dwight Howard didn't use steroids and got that big by eating at mcdonalds.
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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#125 » by Skin » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:13 pm

basketballRob wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Listen to your logic, he measured 6'11" with shoes before. So w/o shoes he was 6'10" or less. So it is a fact that he grew since measuring a 7'1" wingspan.

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Bro, your biology teacher failed you. Limbs are first thing on body that grows in puberty and first parts that stop growing.
We do know based on the links you posted that he grew. John Denton says that his current wingspan in 7'6".

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That's not official. It's John Denton lying for a story as usual.
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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#126 » by pepe1991 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:18 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:
Skin wrote:If THAT'S telling, do you want to see other pictures of NBA players' brothers??? :lol:

At 15, there isn't anyone who is flawless. I think there are a lot of other players who have higher floors than JM, but the Magic don't need more role players. They need to swing big. Whether that's a home run or foul ball, we have to take that swing. If he busts, he's a guy taken outside of the lottery and it had very little chance of succeeding anyways.

It's very easy to bash all the guys in this draft like you do, but do you have the balls to stand tall for another player at 15?

You say THIS is what the Magic should be doing. For 2 years in a row we've been a 1st round exit team. You WANT to be picking in this draft range. THIS is your preferred rebuilding effort. You should be promoting ALL of your top guys for us to take. There shouldn't be a few.


Jaden is 20, Jalen is 22. If i post picture of them you couldn't tell witch one is who. They look identical.

Jalen already plays in nba, at college in his second year he averaged 16ppg, 8 rpg, 2 apg, 52,5% TS.
Jalen freshman year at college : 13 ppg, 5,8 rpg,2,1 apg, 51% TS

Sure, one was frashman and other was sophmore but there is sooo little difference in the way they play, are built and they pretty much have identical skillset.

While those intrigued by him will point to his rangy frame and potential skill-set on the perimeter as a face-up forward, his detractors will point to the inconsistency, inefficiency and number of puzzling decisions he made on the court with the ball in his hands as a Fr as cause for concern … Seems to struggle, for whatever reason, to make the most of his abilities and often leaves you wanting more …. Not physically strong at all currently, would benefit from significantly adding weight to his 200 lb frame … A lot of his struggles seem to stem from his lack of physicality … While a solid athlete, McDaniels isn’t exactly twitchy and doesn’t have great explosiveness … Shows great ability and talent in spurts, but appears to lack the ability to sustain that level of focus and intensity … Struggles with things like finishing contested shots near the rim, post offense/defense, and playing through contact at the moment; should not be confused with a tough or physical player … Played nearly exclusively in zone defense in college, will be very green with NBA defensive concepts as a young player … Struggled to defend without fouling last season (3.3 fpg), while also demonstrating his raw defensive fundamentals and instincts by often reaching and not moving his feet or fouling players while opponents were well beyond the 3 point line … His overall feel for the game and shot selection needs improvement … He shot a lot of low percentage long 2s and didn’t hit them with any type of consistency … Must cut down on his turnovers (3.2 topg), often throwing lazy entry passes and has a habit of telegraphing what he intends to do … Doesn’t play without the ball particularly well, often is a complete non-factor in half court offense when plays aren’t run for him


This is are remarks of very,very average prospect who will need years to develop body and as many years to develop basketball skills. Not to mention that every single scouting report repeats same things: weak, not athletic, not quick.

How execlly will super skinny, not skilled, poor passer, very very weak player score in nba? Answer is probably very simple: he won't. This isn't really Ingram type guy, who was super skinny, but still dominated college due his lenght, agility and solid jumpshot.
He is more like DJ Wilson who was drafted 17# overall based on nothing but raw potential. Spoiler alert: 3 years later he still is same player.

But once again, you can't look at his brother , who is 2 years older, already in nba, and not use him as actual comparison. Same size, underweight, almost identical skills. Same issues.

OK this is getting weird. Are you really gonna stick to this idea that brothers are all the same? So I guess Brook Lopez and Robin Lopez are the same. Pau and Marc Gasol. Steph and Seth Curry. How about Michael Jordan and his brother? You and your brother? Brothers are all the same??? I've seen some weird justifications for stuff to prove a point, but this one might be the weirdest.

Not to mention their skill sets are NOT the same. The first thing that stands out is that Jaden shot .211 from 3 on 0.6 attempts per game in 24 mpg. So it's not like his shot attempts are low because he didn't play a lot of minutes. It just wasn't a part of his game. If that was the numbers that Jaden put up then we wouldn't be talking about him (at least I wouldn't). But Jaden is a much better shooter. He's a better shot creator, has more of a pull up jumper and an aggressive scoring mindset.

AND he's a much better defender. Just in terms of blocks, Jaden had more as a freshman (43) than Jalen's 2 years combined (35).

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He will naturally develop his body and get better, but his size now does not make him unplayable as if you're trying to suggest that. As a wing, he doesn't need to add the same kind of weight that he would need to if his position was that of a big. I agree that he needs to get smarter and he needs better coaching. The mental part of his game needs to improve. There are risks here with him that have scared me off of him in the past too... only to circle around back to him due to his upside, fit and lack of other great options at 15.

You lightly suggested that Saddiq Bey was your guy. I happen to like him too, so I'm not gonna bash him hard, but the cons in his scouting report is enough to scare you away just as easily as it is for Jaden. UNLESS, you DO want a guy who's upside is that of a role player. If you think he's gonna be more than a role player, then convince me. If he's not your guy, show me your CONVICTION for another. Like I said... it's easy to bash... Tell me who you want the Magic to take. As I've asked before and you failed to respond, THIS is exactly the draft range that a 1st round playoff team gets to pick. You are a strong proponent and LOVE the course the Magic are on, so show me how the Magic get to the next level. Don't give me a name like Nesmith or Hayes or some guy projected to be in the lottery. You don't get that right since you bash any talk of any of us who like picking higher in the draft whether it be trading up into it or having it dictated by record. Show me the non-lottery guy who is your bust proof star. I don't want no names of guys with high floors and low ceilings. None of those guys are gonna take the Magic another step forward. We don't have the luxury of using the draft for depth.


Umm yea, Pau and Gasol almost play basketball copy past in same fashion. One was just grew up being fat kid with huge a** that could push people around ,and other was toothpick that learned how to be more polised and avoid contact. But if you look their movments, their understanding of basketball, passing, rim protecting, even jumpshot , they are basically same player in different bodies.

Lopez bros are awkaward i'll give you that, but it's very strange indeed how much different they are, given they are twins. I saw some rumor that as kid one only liked to play offense and other only focused on defense when they played against each other. I guess that would explain a lot? :lol:

Morris twins are almost identical players.

Curry bros, one is way more advanced as playmaker but their jumpshot and crappy defense is what they have in common.
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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#127 » by Skin » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:00 pm

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Umm yea, Pau and Gasol almost play basketball copy past in same fashion. One was just grew up being fat kid with huge a** that could push people around ,and other was toothpick that learned how to be more polised and avoid contact. But if you look their movments, their understanding of basketball, passing, rim protecting, even jumpshot , they are basically same player in different bodies.

Lopez bros are awkaward i'll give you that, but it's very strange indeed how much different they are, given they are twins. I saw some rumor that as kid one only liked to play offense and other only focused on defense when they played against each other. I guess that would explain a lot? :lol:

Morris twins are almost identical players.

Curry bros, one is way more advanced as playmaker but their jumpshot and crappy defense is what they have in common.

Any way we can draft Kevin Durant's brother? I think he'd take millions if we gave it to him.

Also, nice dodge on the prospect you want to support. ;)
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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#128 » by basketballRob » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:03 pm

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basketballRob wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Bro, your biology teacher failed you. Limbs are first thing on body that grows in puberty and first parts that stop growing.
We do know based on the links you posted that he grew. John Denton says that his current wingspan in 7'6".

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That's not official. It's John Denton lying for a story as usual.
At the 2016 Nike hoop summit Isaac measured 6'10" with shoes, with a 7'1.25" wingspan. So without shoes he was probably around 6'9". So he grew 2 inches and his wingspan grew 4.75".

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2016-Nike-Hoop-Summit-USA-Junior-National-Select-Team-Measurements-5428/




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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#129 » by Skin » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:06 pm

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basketballRob wrote:We do know based on the links you posted that he grew. John Denton says that his current wingspan in 7'6".

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That's not official. It's John Denton lying for a story as usual.
At the 2016 Nike hoop summit Isaac measured 6'10" with shoes, with a 7'1.25" wingspan. So without shoes he was probably around 6'9". So he grew 2 inches and his wingspan grew.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2016-Nike-Hoop-Summit-USA-Junior-National-Select-Team-Measurements-5428/




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I don't know what to tell you dude. Isaac's wingspan is not 7'6.
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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#130 » by basketballRob » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:21 pm

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basketballRob wrote:
Skin wrote:That's not official. It's John Denton lying for a story as usual.
At the 2016 Nike hoop summit Isaac measured 6'10" with shoes, with a 7'1.25" wingspan. So without shoes he was probably around 6'9". So he grew 2 inches and his wingspan grew.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2016-Nike-Hoop-Summit-USA-Junior-National-Select-Team-Measurements-5428/




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I don't know what to tell you dude. Isaac's wingspan is not 7'6.
I think it's way closer to 7'6" than 7'1. It's not plausible that he grew 2 inches and his wingspan didn't grow at all. The only indication of what it is now, is from Denton who says it's 7'6".

Jaden McDaniels isn't near the size of Isaac.

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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#131 » by Skin » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:00 pm

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basketballRob wrote:At the 2016 Nike hoop summit Isaac measured 6'10" with shoes, with a 7'1.25" wingspan. So without shoes he was probably around 6'9". So he grew 2 inches and his wingspan grew.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2016-Nike-Hoop-Summit-USA-Junior-National-Select-Team-Measurements-5428/




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I don't know what to tell you dude. Isaac's wingspan is not 7'6.
I think it's way closer to 7'6" than 7'1. It's not plausible that he grew 2 inches and his wingspan didn't grow at all. The only indication of what it is now, is from Denton who says it's 7'6".

Jaden McDaniels isn't near the size of Isaac.

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I challenge you to find any other source other than Denton saying his wingspan is 7'6.

McDaniels is about 2 inches shorter than Isaac and his wingspan is 1 inch shorter. Which comfortably makes him a SF and not a questionable one like Isaac was.
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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#132 » by basketballRob » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:11 pm

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Skin wrote:I don't know what to tell you dude. Isaac's wingspan is not 7'6.
I think it's way closer to 7'6" than 7'1. It's not plausible that he grew 2 inches and his wingspan didn't grow at all. The only indication of what it is now, is from Denton who says it's 7'6".

Jaden McDaniels isn't near the size of Isaac.

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I challenge you to find any other source other than Denton saying his wingspan is 7'6.

McDaniels is about 2 inches shorter than Isaac and his wingspan is 1 inch shorter. Which comfortably makes him a SF and not a questionable one like Isaac was.
Isaac's wingspan is 7'6". It's not possible that he grew 2 inches and his wingspan stayed the same.

Your legs and arms grow at the same time and that's the last thing to grow. So he grew 2 inches in leg height and slightly over 2 inches in each arm length.

It doesn't even make sense that he was 6'9" with a 7'1.25" wingspan and then grew to 6'11" and didn't add to his wingspan.

Plus i don't think Denton would lie about that. He's the type of guy that prides himself in reporting accurate information.


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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#133 » by Skin » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:01 pm

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basketballRob wrote:I think it's way closer to 7'6" than 7'1. It's not plausible that he grew 2 inches and his wingspan didn't grow at all. The only indication of what it is now, is from Denton who says it's 7'6".

Jaden McDaniels isn't near the size of Isaac.

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I challenge you to find any other source other than Denton saying his wingspan is 7'6.

McDaniels is about 2 inches shorter than Isaac and his wingspan is 1 inch shorter. Which comfortably makes him a SF and not a questionable one like Isaac was.
Isaac's wingspan is 7'6". It's not possible that he grew 2 inches and his wingspan stayed the same.

Your legs and arms grow at the same time and that's the last thing to grow. So he grew 2 inches in leg height and slightly over 2 inches in each arm length.

It doesn't even make sense that he was 6'9" with a 7'1.25" wingspan and then grew to 6'11" and didn't add to his wingspan.

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You did not meet my challenge. I certainly understand why it would be hard. That's why I issued it.

7'6 is impossible. ...and everybody's body is different so he certainly could have grown taller without his arms growing longer. By your logic everybody's height and wingspan would follow the same growth ratio.
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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#134 » by basketballRob » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:12 pm

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Skin wrote:I challenge you to find any other source other than Denton saying his wingspan is 7'6.

McDaniels is about 2 inches shorter than Isaac and his wingspan is 1 inch shorter. Which comfortably makes him a SF and not a questionable one like Isaac was.
Isaac's wingspan is 7'6". It's not possible that he grew 2 inches and his wingspan stayed the same.

Your legs and arms grow at the same time and that's the last thing to grow. So he grew 2 inches in leg height and slightly over 2 inches in each arm length.

It doesn't even make sense that he was 6'9" with a 7'1.25" wingspan and then grew to 6'11" and didn't add to his wingspan.

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You did not meet my challenge. I certainly understand why it would be hard. That's why I issued it.

7'6 is impossible. ...and everybody's body is different so he certainly could have grown taller without his arms growing longer. By your logic everybody's height and wingspan would follow the same growth ratio.
He's 7'6". Denton wouldn't lie. That's the only reporting we've had on his wingspan since his late growth spurt.

No one has measured him since his growth spurt, with the exception of the team but they don't normally post that. His wingspan didn't stay the same, that would be odd. His wingspan is 6 inches bigger than McDaniels.

Name one instance where Denton has lied about something?

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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#135 » by Skin » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:27 pm

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basketballRob wrote:Isaac's wingspan is 7'6". It's not possible that he grew 2 inches and his wingspan stayed the same.

Your legs and arms grow at the same time and that's the last thing to grow. So he grew 2 inches in leg height and slightly over 2 inches in each arm length.

It doesn't even make sense that he was 6'9" with a 7'1.25" wingspan and then grew to 6'11" and didn't add to his wingspan.

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You did not meet my challenge. I certainly understand why it would be hard. That's why I issued it.

7'6 is impossible. ...and everybody's body is different so he certainly could have grown taller without his arms growing longer. By your logic everybody's height and wingspan would follow the same growth ratio.
He's 7'6". Denton wouldn't lie. That's the only reporting we've had on his wingspan since his late growth spurt.

No one has measured him since his growth spurt, with the exception of the team but they don't normally post that. His wingspan didn't stay the same, that would be odd. His wingspan is 6 inches bigger than McDaniels.

Name one instance where Denton has lied about something?

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There's a reason for that. So unless you can find at least one other source that says it, you're not convincing anyone that Isaac's wingspan grew 5 inches while in his 20's. I'm telling you this because I'm looking out for you. I don't want you to be foolish just because that article said it.
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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#136 » by basketballRob » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:38 pm

Skin wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
Skin wrote:You did not meet my challenge. I certainly understand why it would be hard. That's why I issued it.

7'6 is impossible. ...and everybody's body is different so he certainly could have grown taller without his arms growing longer. By your logic everybody's height and wingspan would follow the same growth ratio.
He's 7'6". Denton wouldn't lie. That's the only reporting we've had on his wingspan since his late growth spurt.

No one has measured him since his growth spurt, with the exception of the team but they don't normally post that. His wingspan didn't stay the same, that would be odd. His wingspan is 6 inches bigger than McDaniels.

Name one instance where Denton has lied about something?

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This is always put at the bottom of Denton's articles:

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There's a reason for that. So unless you can find at least one other source that says it, you're not convincing anyone that Isaac's wingspan grew 5 inches while in his 20's. I'm telling you this because I'm looking out for you. I don't want you to be foolish just because that article said it.
It wasn't in his 20's, his last measurement was when he was what 18 and in the middle of a growth spurt. We do know he grew 2 inches in height but they haven't officially measured his wingspan. I know Denton wouldn't have said it was 7'6" if it wasn't true.

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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#137 » by Xatticus » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:04 am

This is the dumbest argument I've seen on here in a while. Isaac's wingspan has nothing to do with Jaden McDaniels.
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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#138 » by basketballRob » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:37 am

Xatticus wrote:This is the dumbest argument I've seen on here in a while. Isaac's wingspan has nothing to do with Jaden McDaniels.
People were comparing McDaniels size to Isaac's and they really aren't close.

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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#139 » by RookieStar » Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:07 am

basketballRob wrote:
Xatticus wrote:This is the dumbest argument I've seen on here in a while. Isaac's wingspan has nothing to do with Jaden McDaniels.
People were comparing McDaniels size to Isaac's and they really aren't close.

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IF we are only comparing abouy physical traits like height,weight,etc and not bbq, instinct and etc... let's just get a picture of them together.. until then no sense you all getting a twist about it.
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Re: The case for Jaden McDaniels 

Post#140 » by yoyojw17 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:36 am

RookieStar wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
Xatticus wrote:This is the dumbest argument I've seen on here in a while. Isaac's wingspan has nothing to do with Jaden McDaniels.
People were comparing McDaniels size to Isaac's and they really aren't close.

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IF we are only comparing abouy physical traits like height,weight,etc and not bbq, instinct and etc... let's just get a picture of them together.. until then no sense you all getting a twist about it.


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