Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21

GoCeltics123 · Post #1841 » by **GoCeltics123** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:56 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:Kemba/Hayward/picks for Turner/Jrue/Lonzo.

Lonzo/Smart/Wanamaker
JRue/Langford
Jaylen/Semi
Tatum/GWill
Turner/Theis/Timelord

Pick up a bench scorer with the MLE.

It's a nice thought but Kemba ain't getting moved, would absolutely kill any chance of us getting another max FA

gammajamma · Post #1842 » by **gammajamma** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:56 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:Kemba/Hayward/picks for Turner/Jrue/Lonzo.

Lonzo/Smart/Wanamaker
JRue/Langford
Jaylen/Semi
Tatum/GWill
Turner/Theis/Timelord

Pick up a bench scorer with the MLE.

I like this deal a lot. Is kemba being traded a realistic possibility?

Captain_Caveman · Post #1843 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:58 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:

Read on Twitter

This.

Post #1844 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:59 pm

watsonthedragon wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Turner is overrated?

He is, but hes still quite good

Drax · Post #1845 » by **Drax** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:59 pm

watsonthedragon wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Turner is overrated?

You are not, but considering our big men history he still is better than a lot of the big men we had in the last ten years.

Post #1846 » by **Bleeding Green** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:01 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:
hugepatsfan wrote:
Jrue > Hayward, Turner > Theis. Stop being biased.

There is just no way. Hayward is better than Jrue and Theis is better than Turner. Myles Turner is talked about like he's Anthony Davis around here. I have no bias.

The Hayward/Jrue think I wont even flip put over. Theis being better than Tuner is pure delusion lol. There's a lot of room in between Anthony Davis and Theis lmfaoo

I'm just gonna disagree. Theis is better by every metric and is cheaper. I'll give Turner outside shooting and youth, upside potential. But I don't want my center to be taking 4 threes a game if he's doing so at a below the league average (like Turner). He blocks shots better than Theis, but Theis defensively is so good, he puts the ball in the hoop better than Turner, rebounds better, passes better, and is the best sealer/pick-setter on the Celtics. Myles Turner hasn't improved his game in like 4 seasons, he's the same guy he was in his sophomore season, so I dunno if there is even some crazy untapped potential with him.

Captain_Caveman · Post #1847 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:04 pm

gammajamma wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:Kemba/Hayward/picks for Turner/Jrue/Lonzo.

Lonzo/Smart/Wanamaker
JRue/Langford
Jaylen/Semi
Tatum/GWill
Turner/Theis/Timelord

Pick up a bench scorer with the MLE.

I like this deal a lot. Is kemba being traded a realistic possibility?

Hayward/14 for Turner/Dipo, with Dipo getting rerouted elsewhere.

Kemba/lesser picks for JRue.

Post #1848 » by **Bleeding Green** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:06 pm

Imagine trading for Lonzo Ball and then having to give him a 20+mm deal. I wouldn't wish that on even the Sixers.

Homerclease · Post #1849 » by **Homerclease** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:06 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:
gammajamma wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:Kemba/Hayward/picks for Turner/Jrue/Lonzo.

Lonzo/Smart/Wanamaker
JRue/Langford
Jaylen/Semi
Tatum/GWill
Turner/Theis/Timelord

Pick up a bench scorer with the MLE.

I like this deal a lot. Is kemba being traded a realistic possibility?

Hayward/14 for Turner/Dipo, with Dipo getting rerouted elsewhere.

Kemba/lesser picks for JRue.

Why would the Pels do that though? Hayward/Theis for Turner/Dipo and use the 3 picks to consolidate up to 8 and send that along with Dipo to the Pels for Holiday

Post #1850 » by **Bleeding Green** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:07 pm

watsonthedragon wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Turner is overrated?

Nope. He's an average starting C that people think shoots like KAT and defends like AD. Trade scenarios for the past 3-4 years with this guy and he's like OK.

Post #1851 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:07 pm

Theis may be similar to Turner, but dudes a goner come next summer and Ainge knows it. He’s gonna get paaaaaiiidd

Post #1852 » by **Bleeding Green** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:08 pm

Will Theis make more money than Myles Turner does right now? Seems like a huge no. He'll be 29 and have never averaged even 10 pts or 7 rebounds a game in a season.

Captain_Caveman · Post #1853 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:08 pm

Homerclease wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
gammajamma wrote:
I like this deal a lot. Is kemba being traded a realistic possibility?

Hayward/14 for Turner/Dipo, with Dipo getting rerouted elsewhere.

Kemba/lesser picks for JRue.

Why would the Pels do that though? Hayward/Theis for Turner/Dipo and use the 3 picks to consolidate up to 8 and send that along with Dipo to the Pels for Holiday

That's a possibility, too.

Or maybe Dipo is rerouted for a pick that would still allow us to move up to 8, while using Kemba as the matching contract.

Captain_Caveman · Post #1854 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:10 pm

You guys are tripping on the value of Theis wrt to Turner.

Post #1855 » by **Bleeding Green** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:12 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:You guys are tripping on the value of Theis wrt to Turner.

They've been doing it for years now.

Homerclease · Post #1856 » by **Homerclease** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:13 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Will Theis make more money than Myles Turner does right now? Seems like a huge no. He'll be 29 and have never averaged even 10 pts or 7 rebounds a game in a season.

Hard to say given the way things have gone, but it’s unlikely we can afford it

Post #1857 » by **Bleeding Green** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:15 pm

Homerclease wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:Will Theis make more money than Myles Turner does right now? Seems like a huge no. He'll be 29 and have never averaged even 10 pts or 7 rebounds a game in a season.

Hard to say given the way things have gone, but it’s unlikely we can afford it

Why? I'm not even advocating for retaining Theis past this year, but they can match any contract they want. It's just money. Wyc probably made a billion dollars since March, he can pay some tax.

Higgs Boston · Post #1858 » by **Higgs Boston** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:21 pm

Holiday... another super healthy midget, this FO never learns.

big-shot-ROB · Post #1859 » by **big-shot-ROB** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:21 pm

You guys realize Jrue has a year left on his contract just like Hayward right?

If you think replacing Hayward for Jrue on top of giving all of our picks gets us closer to a title next year you are crazy.

I'll fly to Boston to ask for Danny resignation if we are seriously making that trade.

Even Hayward straight for Jrue makes us worse. How the hell are we going to fill up the 2-3-4 positions when the Jays are not playing?

celticfan42487 · Post #1860 » by **celticfan42487** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:21 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
celticfan42487 wrote:
hugepatsfan wrote:Kemba / Jrue / Brown / Tatum / Turner would be one hell of a starting 5. In theory Hayward/Smart/picks should be enough value going out to make that happen.

For this team, I think I'd rather have Smart and a lottery pick than either of Jrue and Turner.

We as fans need to look at this as a GM not with a punchdrunk head from making the Conference Finals where we avoided a MIL team.

We did just lose to the Heat who were the 5th seed and...

Jaylen Brown 23 years old
Jayson Tatum 22 years old

Guys... our guys are 2-3 years away from entering our prime. Everything we do should be in mind of making our run 2-3 years from now. Not now. Not today.

Unless again you're trading for an MVP guy like a Harden.

I will definitely not spend what it takes to get Harden and let's be real, unless he adjusts his style of play, Harden ain't winning ****, regardless of how many points he can score.

Sure, but a Harden & Tatum combination is good enough to be a contender. Or at least it is when you consider it will be Harden playing with 3 of the best 3 and D guys in the NBA in Smart, Brown, Tatum.

All 3 of our core players go supernova off the ball. Tatum can do so with an pick and roll ISO play but as we saw in the playoffs he still needs to work on that when it's the playoffs and not regular season defense... but off the ball Brown and Tatum are some of the best 3 and D players in the entire league. And if you can force Smart off ball you take away all his negatives on offense and open up all his positives. It 100% maximizes Smart. Then you add that Smart and Brown both showed they can guard 1-4 at elite levels.

It's no LeBron and AD, but it's a team with at least a reasonable shot to win a ring. Of course matchups, injuries, and which ring chasing vets we get (we'd need Ibaka to sign) play a role. But that's good enough to contend next year and the next few years with the roster as is.