Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[Prokorov]

Can we not recreate the thunder team that couldn’t win a Championship. How would we get harden. Why would we get harden. How many balls are there To play with. Let’s see harden Durant and Irving are all ball dominate players. People were talking about Levert being a problem playing with Durant and Irving. Let’s bring in a more ball dominate player that won’t be a problem.

Difference is that Harden is a top 5 player in the league, arguably the best offensive player in the league. Levert isn't in the same stratosphere as a player.

Which actually makes my point. He has to have the ball even more than levert but it’s some how will work with harden but not levert. We don’t need three ball dominate players on the team. It won’t work. It didn’t work with the thunder

the thunder made the NBA finals and had a top 2 offense. how is that "not working"?

[Hello Brooklyn]

Guys its James Harden. He's one of the best players in the league. We can make it work.

KD knows how to play off ball and Kyrie did it plenty with LeBron.

All the others will go anyway.

[Paradise]

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Kemba to Pelicans for Jrue would be absolutely hilarious. I’ve gotta bump all those Celtic posts about Kemba.

The rumor deal being discussed:

BOS: Jrue Holiday, M. Turner
NO: Kemba, lotto pick
IND: Heyward, 14, 26, 30 + prospects.

[Paradise]

Nets expect to re-sign Joe Harris during free agency next week.

Brooklyn Nets forward Joe Harris is expected to remain with the team rather than explore free agency, according to Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer.

Harris, who joined the Nets in 2016, is coming off of a two-year, $16 million deal. The 29-year-old, who was a third-round selection by the Cleveland Cavaliers in 2014, had a career season in 2019-20, tallying 30.8 minutes per game while adding 14.5 points and 4.3 rebounds, career bests in all three categories.

[Prokorov]

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Kemba to Pelicans for Jrue would be absolutely hilarious. I’ve gotta bump all those Celtic posts about Kemba.

The rumor deal being discussed:

BOS: Jrue Holiday, M. Turner
NO: Kemba, lotto pick
IND: Heyward, 14, 26, 30 + prospects.

That would not be hillarious. we already know they are jilted lovers who cant let kyrie go or admit it wasnt about him (as owner/GM/Coach/teammates have all confirmed).

This would give them a better player/fit, a defender at PG (Kemba was hunted for an abused in both mia/tor series, this fixes that) and makes a rival even better while also taking us out of play for jrue ourselves. this would be bad for us.

Turner gives then an all-nba calibur defending stretch 5 which fills 2 more huge needs for them.

this would make boston a much much better team then they already are with a scary elite elite defense

[MrDollarBills]

Nets expect to re-sign Joe Harris during free agency next week.

Brooklyn Nets forward Joe Harris is expected to remain with the team rather than explore free agency, according to Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer.

Harris, who joined the Nets in 2016, is coming off of a two-year, $16 million deal. The 29-year-old, who was a third-round selection by the Cleveland Cavaliers in 2014, had a career season in 2019-20, tallying 30.8 minutes per game while adding 14.5 points and 4.3 rebounds, career bests in all three categories.

cooking with GAS!!!!!

[MGrand15]

That deal is straight up terrifying. I'd be in favor of pushing harder for Jrue just to stop it from happening.

Jrue/Smart/Brown/Tatum/Turner is probably the best defense in the league. Turner gives them a legit stretch 5 to space the floor out even more. This also lets Brown and Tatum be the bonafide go-to guys.

No thanks. Don't really see NO going for it though. Trading for a guy with 3 years 100 million left?

[ecuhus1981]

We all know that your love affair with Hunter is undying, so you probably see more with that lineup than the rest of us do.

Hunter aside, Jrue and Capella are established players in the league and both are legit starters on a playoff roster. especially in the east. Turner is a legit all-star 30/9 player. Collins a 21/10 big who shoots 40% from deep. what is not to like about that lineup?

Tell me this: does that team take a playoff spot away from Milwaukee? Boston? Miami? Us? Toronto? Philly? Indiana? Much can happen in the offseason, but unless a GM slips on a banana peel, I don't think so.

So you only named 7 teams, so they dont need to take a playoff spot from any of them to make it. And if they did i think they could top indiana or philly who i think may have an even worse season. both of those teams have a floor of 30-40 wins especially with their injury risks on those rosters

Atlanta with Holiday has a real shot at the #8 seed now that Orlando lost Isaac and may lose other free agents. But Washington, Chicago and others would have something to say about that. Even if they make the playoffs and get swept, does that do anything to their trajectory? I don't think that squeaking into the playoffs convinces Trae or John to stay long-term. I don't even think it would be enough to keep Jrue, so you've lost Huerter and the #6 for a year of semi- relevance. The Hawks can have him.

I think they have a ceiling of a 6 seed. so maybe not a 1st round sweep. and if Trae has a year 4 breakout year they can do some real damange. Young could be a top 3 offensive player in the east (he may be that already?) They have huge offensive potential. Also, playoffs may expand to 10 teams for a play in, which would get them more action in the post season.

I think this kind of move is much more likely to keep Young/Collins around then being really bad, drafting the next reddish/hunter as opposed to bringing in a bulldog vet, playing hard for the enitre season towards something, and getting a winning culture for young players. I dont see why they cant be as good or better than the DLo era nets that jumped into 40+ wins, a 6 seed, and a culture of winning/playing hard.

this is a great move for atlanta even if its for 1 year of jrue. and if its not working at the deadline every contender will be willing to deal for him

Do I need to call Prok from 2 weeks ago out here, to argue with present-day Prok? What happened to your keeper-asset principle with regard to Dinwiddie and Allen???

You flip flop so much sometimes, dude, it's exhausting. Still, too your latest point, I'd rather see Jrue go to ATL than Beantown, especially if Ainge can somehow turn Gordon and Kemba into him and Myles. That's a problem for us all of a sudden.

[DarkXaero]

I think Pelicans are using the media to generate a bidding war and/or create leverage in the Jrue trade. One day its the Hawks offering their #6 pick (already refuted by a Hawks reporter), the next day its the Celtics moving up in lottery to trade their pick for Jrue.

[DarkXaero]

As Dallas are supposedly interested in trading for Dinwiddie, would something like Dinwiddie & Kurucs for DFS & Kleber make sense? I think that makes a lot of sense for us, but Dallas would be reluctant to part with two of their PF options. Dinwiddie is the best player in that deal but his contract status makes it challenging.


Edit: How about this?

https://tradenba.com/trades/eT8sTAD-T

[MrDollarBills]

Guys its James Harden. He's one of the best players in the league. We can make it work.

KD knows how to play off ball and Kyrie did it plenty with LeBron.

All the others will go anyway.

Harden is an elite player. No question. I just have doubts about fit and frankly, his attitude. Based on what I've been reading he's kind of a diva, this is the second straight top 10 PG who he has ended up not meshing with. At some point you have to question why he can't function alongside elite level talent.

We've seen Kyrie and have gotten to know him better, so I'm hoping that if a trade would happen, that outside perceptions about Harden are wrong and he would work to fit into this offense that Nash and D'Antoni are building...because frankly, watching those Rockets games, I don't think Harden's style of play is conducive to championship basketball. He's either standing around if the ball isn't in his hands or he's dribbling down the clock...we can't play like that. KD definitely doesn't want to play like that, that's the reason why he left OKC in the first place because he wanted to play on a team where the ball moves. I value KD a lot more than I do Harden as a player.

We are going to be playing probably at a fun pace with plenty of threes and pick and rolls, I don't want that to go out the window so that KD and Kyrie can stand around watching Harden flop his way to 30 points a night

[MrDollarBills]

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Kemba to Pelicans for Jrue would be absolutely hilarious. I’ve gotta bump all those Celtic posts about Kemba.

The rumor deal being discussed:

BOS: Jrue Holiday, M. Turner
NO: Kemba, lotto pick
IND: Heyward, 14, 26, 30 + prospects.

That would not be hillarious. we already know they are jilted lovers who cant let kyrie go or admit it wasnt about him (as owner/GM/Coach/teammates have all confirmed).

This would give them a better player/fit, a defender at PG (Kemba was hunted for an abused in both mia/tor series, this fixes that) and makes a rival even better while also taking us out of play for jrue ourselves. this would be bad for us.

Turner gives then an all-nba calibur defending stretch 5 which fills 2 more huge needs for them.

this would make boston a much much better team then they already are with a scary elite elite defense

The Nets may have to try to burn assets to prevent this from happening. If Boston field that roster they will give us problems.

[MrDollarBills]

As Dallas are supposedly interested in trading for Dinwiddie, would something like Dinwiddie & Kurucs for DFS & Kleber make sense? I think that makes a lot of sense for us, but Dallas would be reluctant to part with two of their PF options. Dinwiddie is the best player in that deal but his contract status makes it challenging.


Edit: How about this?

https://tradenba.com/trades/eT8sTAD-T

I don't think Dallas gives us both. We could use Kleber though

[DarkXaero]

As Dallas are supposedly interested in trading for Dinwiddie, would something like Dinwiddie & Kurucs for DFS & Kleber make sense? I think that makes a lot of sense for us, but Dallas would be reluctant to part with two of their PF options. Dinwiddie is the best player in that deal but his contract status makes it challenging.


Edit: How about this?

https://tradenba.com/trades/eT8sTAD-T

I don't think Dallas gives us bother. We could use Kleber though

Yeah, like I said I think they'll be reluctant to give up both because they're big part of their 4/5 rotation, especially with KP's injury record. That being said, I think this trade does raise their ceiling, and I think Dallas would view Kurucs as a positive asset, and he technically replaces one of the outgoing players. Rodi is also Latvian like KP, so that's a nice bonus.

[Paradise]

Jrue and Turner being obvious upgrades doesn’t change the hilariousness of overrating Kemba as they did. Especially, if he does get flipped in only one year with the Celtics.

The question you must ask yourself:

Dinwiddie, LeVert, Allen for Jrue or allow him to go to Boston with Turner?

I’d be okay with passing if it takes that level of a haul to intercept the Celtics.

[vincecarter4pres]

As Dallas are supposedly interested in trading for Dinwiddie, would something like Dinwiddie & Kurucs for DFS & Kleber make sense? I think that makes a lot of sense for us, but Dallas would be reluctant to part with two of their PF options. Dinwiddie is the best player in that deal but his contract status makes it challenging.


Edit: How about this?

https://tradenba.com/trades/eT8sTAD-T

I don't think Dallas gives us bother. We could use Kleber though

Yeah, like I said I think they'll be reluctant to give up both because they're big part of their 4/5 rotation, especially with KP's injury record. That being said, I think this trade does raise their ceiling, and I think Dallas would view Kurucs as a positive asset, and he technically replaces one of the outgoing players. Rodi is also Latvian like KP, so that's a nice bonus.

I’ll keep spinning that broken record, but I think Dinwiddie(and maybe Rodi and/or Musa) for Curry/Kleber/18 has legs.

Then 18/19 for maybe the 12, something like that, or take 2 shots in the late teens.

[Paradise]

I don't think Dallas gives us bother. We could use Kleber though

Yeah, like I said I think they'll be reluctant to give up both because they're big part of their 4/5 rotation, especially with KP's injury record. That being said, I think this trade does raise their ceiling, and I think Dallas would view Kurucs as a positive asset, and he technically replaces one of the outgoing players. Rodi is also Latvian like KP, so that's a nice bonus.

I’ll keep spinning that broken record, but I think Dinwiddie(and maybe Rodi and/or Musa) for Curry/Kleber/18 has legs.

Then 18/19 for maybe the 12, something like that, or take 2 shots in the late teens.

I think something like that is also possible now it’s confirmed Dallas wants a 3rd piece.

I don’t think they move Kleber. Curry/#18, 2nd round pick + Finney Smith or Jackson probably shakes it self out.

[MrDollarBills]

Yeah, like I said I think they'll be reluctant to give up both because they're big part of their 4/5 rotation, especially with KP's injury record. That being said, I think this trade does raise their ceiling, and I think Dallas would view Kurucs as a positive asset, and he technically replaces one of the outgoing players. Rodi is also Latvian like KP, so that's a nice bonus.

I’ll keep spinning that broken record, but I think Dinwiddie(and maybe Rodi and/or Musa) for Curry/Kleber/18 has legs.

Then 18/19 for maybe the 12, something like that, or take 2 shots in the late teens.

I think something like that is also possible now it’s confirmed Dallas wants a 3rd piece.

I don’t think they move Kleber. Curry/#18, 2nd round pick + Finney Smith or Jackson probably shakes it self out.

I would take that trade.

[vincecarter4pres]

I’ll keep spinning that broken record, but I think Dinwiddie(and maybe Rodi and/or Musa) for Curry/Kleber/18 has legs.

Then 18/19 for maybe the 12, something like that, or take 2 shots in the late teens.

I think something like that is also possible now it’s confirmed Dallas wants a 3rd piece.

I don’t think they move Kleber. Curry/#18, 2nd round pick + Finney Smith or Jackson probably shakes it self out.

I would take that trade.

Yeah, unless you’re telling me either Spence is re-signing, or he’s needed in a bigger trade, I’d be fine with something like Curry/Finney-Smith/18 for Spencer. Solves a lot of issues and either gives Marks 2 shots in a decent spot of the draft, or another asset to move up.

I wouldn’t even be shocked to see a trade like that, then Allen/18/19 for a legitimately high draft pick, like 3rd overall high if Charlotte were to also trade for Westbrook. But more likely somewhere between 5 and 9 with a useful player coming back.

[Paradise]

OT: We need to prepare for the Chet Holmgren and Emoni Bates draft classes as we continue to sustainability.

Dealing 2022 and 2023 picks cannot happen unless it’s for a Harden level deal. This Holmgren kid is legit.