NBA Trade Thread #2

[sco]

Does this disgust you?

Aaron Gordon, Mo Bamba, 15th pick
for
Otto Porter Jr., 4th pick

Would prefer Lauri than Otto in the deal, but I'm on board - IF
- We have trades lined up for WC and Lauri. IMO Gordon is not a SF.
- One of Lewis, Poku, Nesmith or Terry are available at 15.

I wouldn't mind giving Bamba a shot. I know he hasn't panned out, but bigs take longer to develop and he's been on the bench a lot so far.

[dougthonus]

Does this disgust you?

Aaron Gordon, Mo Bamba, 15th pick
for
Otto Porter Jr., 4th pick

Would prefer Lauri than Otto in the deal, but I'm on board - IF
- We have trades lined up for WC and Lauri. IMO Gordon is not a SF.
- One of Lewis, Poku, Nesmith or Terry are available at 15.

I wouldn't mind giving Bamba a shot. I know he hasn't panned out, but bigs take longer to develop and he's been on the bench a lot so far.

Why would you rather dump Lauri than Otto Porter? That seems pretty strange on the surface. Just concerned with minutes?

Gordon's contract isn't awful but he hasn't progressed in the past 3 years, and at this point, you have to probably accept him for what he is which is probably a starting caliber PF, but not an above average one. He's got 2 more years at pretty moderate money left, so what does that do for you, probably nothing really. You're getting an okay player but maybe a bit negative on the value side due to the contract, and it hurts you if you want a cap room option in the next couple years, but I don't think he's a net negative, maybe slight net positive player.

Mo Bamba maybe still has some upside left to him I suppose, it really depends where you are on him. If you think he could still develop into a very good player then this trade is intriguing. I heard he was doing really poorly with long term effects after getting COVID back in June/July timeframe so not sure where he is really at. If you believe in Mo Bamba, this is the key piece of the deal. He only has 2 years left of cost control though.

The trade down seems pretty poor, but I agree it depends who is on the board, the problem is you won't know at the time of trade, because Orlando will want someone specific at #4 and unless you want the same guy and draft him anyway then you can't wait until #15 to see.

In the end, I think I'd rather gamble on picking a great guy at #4 than moving back to #15 for a middling prospect and an established average caliber starter even though the odds are we get less talent, we're at the phase where we need stars, even if it means more risk.

[SfBull]

i love russ and would be happy if he was on my favorite team, but objectively i don't know why you would even broach the conversation about trading for him.

there's a harsh, stark decline in his advanced stats over the past four years, and he plays a style of basketball that doesn't exactly lend itself to longevity. he's 32 and is due $132 million over the next three seasons.

even if he's a low-tier all-star over the course of his contract, what does that do for us? put us into contention for the 7th or 8th seed? all while limiting our financial flexibility and recentering the development of our young players around Washed Russell Westbrook?

if someone said "you can have him on this contract without giving up any players," why would we say yes?

I like Westbrook but would feel the same if trading for Chris Paul, getting an aging great player who should likely drive us for 7th/8th seed followed by first round exit.Adding such player for our roster could work if we just have one or two stars like Rodman who worked so well in dinasty years.

[SfBull]

On the other side trading down our #4 for #15 and Aaron Gordon could be a good deal.

[SfBull]

Does this disgust you?

Aaron Gordon, Mo Bamba, 15th pick
for
Otto Porter Jr., 4th pick

Trade accepted immediately.

[SfBull]

Does this disgust you?

Aaron Gordon, Mo Bamba, 15th pick
for
Otto Porter Jr., 4th pick

Would prefer Lauri than Otto in the deal, but I'm on board - IF
- We have trades lined up for WC and Lauri. IMO Gordon is not a SF.
- One of Lewis, Poku, Nesmith or Terry are available at 15.

I wouldn't mind giving Bamba a shot. I know he hasn't panned out, but bigs take longer to develop and he's been on the bench a lot so far.

Why would you rather dump Lauri than Otto Porter? That seems pretty strange on the surface. Just concerned with minutes?

Gordon's contract isn't awful but he hasn't progressed in the past 3 years, and at this point, you have to probably accept him for what he is which is probably a starting caliber PF, but not an above average one. He's got 2 more years at pretty moderate money left, so what does that do for you, probably nothing really. You're getting an okay player but maybe a bit negative on the value side due to the contract, and it hurts you if you want a cap room option in the next couple years, but I don't think he's a net negative, maybe slight net positive player.

Mo Bamba maybe still has some upside left to him I suppose, it really depends where you are on him. If you think he could still develop into a very good player then this trade is intriguing. I heard he was doing really poorly with long term effects after getting COVID back in June/July timeframe so not sure where he is really at. If you believe in Mo Bamba, this is the key piece of the deal. He only has 2 years left of cost control though.

The trade down seems pretty poor, but I agree it depends who is on the board, the problem is you won't know at the time of trade, because Orlando will want someone specific at #4 and unless you want the same guy and draft him anyway then you can't wait until #15 to see.

In the end, I think I'd rather gamble on picking a great guy at #4 than moving back to #15 for a middling prospect and an established average caliber starter even though the odds are we get less talent, we're at the phase where we need stars, even if it means more risk.

I still believe that Bamba can be great but think he should find a way out from the Magic.He could be a great asset for our frontcourt .And would be great if we could get Kira Lewis at #15.

[Darius Miles Davis]

Would prefer Lauri than Otto in the deal, but I'm on board - IF
- We have trades lined up for WC and Lauri. IMO Gordon is not a SF.
- One of Lewis, Poku, Nesmith or Terry are available at 15.

I wouldn't mind giving Bamba a shot. I know he hasn't panned out, but bigs take longer to develop and he's been on the bench a lot so far.

Why would you rather dump Lauri than Otto Porter? That seems pretty strange on the surface. Just concerned with minutes?

Gordon's contract isn't awful but he hasn't progressed in the past 3 years, and at this point, you have to probably accept him for what he is which is probably a starting caliber PF, but not an above average one. He's got 2 more years at pretty moderate money left, so what does that do for you, probably nothing really. You're getting an okay player but maybe a bit negative on the value side due to the contract, and it hurts you if you want a cap room option in the next couple years, but I don't think he's a net negative, maybe slight net positive player.

Mo Bamba maybe still has some upside left to him I suppose, it really depends where you are on him. If you think he could still develop into a very good player then this trade is intriguing. I heard he was doing really poorly with long term effects after getting COVID back in June/July timeframe so not sure where he is really at. If you believe in Mo Bamba, this is the key piece of the deal. He only has 2 years left of cost control though.

The trade down seems pretty poor, but I agree it depends who is on the board, the problem is you won't know at the time of trade, because Orlando will want someone specific at #4 and unless you want the same guy and draft him anyway then you can't wait until #15 to see.

In the end, I think I'd rather gamble on picking a great guy at #4 than moving back to #15 for a middling prospect and an established average caliber starter even though the odds are we get less talent, we're at the phase where we need stars, even if it means more risk.

I still believe that Bamba can be great but think he should find a way out from the Magic.He could be a great asset for our frontcourt .And would be great if we could get Kira Lewis at #15.

Bamba may never be the same after Covid. He couldn’t get on the court months after being infected. Some people will have long-term ramifications with their lungs. I hope this isn’t the case because Mo is a great human. But he should have no trade value whatsoever.


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[KevinPandawong]

Does this disgust you?

Aaron Gordon, Mo Bamba, 15th pick
for
Otto Porter Jr., 4th pick

I'd try and counter with Okeke+15 or Issac for 4 first but ultimately I'd probably take the Gordon/Bamba offer as well.

[TheSuzerain]

Westbrook to Charlotte makes way too much sense to me. Rozier and Zeller straight up would make Houston so much better.

Charlotte isn't touching that.

[StunnerKO]

Never doubt Jordan , they already seriously looking at him via Shams

[League Circles]

Any chance Houston trades us Russ for Porter, Felicio and Luke Kornet?

I'd do it. Maybe toss in Gafford and a 2nd rounder.

[StunnerKO]

Not offering any picks or Gafford take big contracts or leave if they have that discussion

[Jeffster81]

Any chance Houston trades us Russ for Porter, Felicio and Luke Kornet?

I'd do it. Maybe toss in Gafford and a 2nd rounder.

No stupid/headache contracts. Russ is that and simply not worth it.

[League Circles]

I know Russ probably limits your ceiling in that he can't win an NBA title, but he's one of the greatest athletes, competitors and IMO maybe even a good leader and would probably make us good right away. I think there's room for him, Coby and Zach in the backcourt. Coby as 6th man for 2-3 years playing high minutes. Allowing Russ to not be overused. Russ is still a beast that can help you win a couple playoff series IMO, with good coaching and talent around.

[sco]

I know Russ probably limits your ceiling in that he can't win an NBA title, but he's one of the greatest athletes, competitors and IMO maybe even a good leader and would probably make us good right away. I think there's room for him, Coby and Zach in the backcourt. Coby as 6th man for 2-3 years playing high minutes. Allowing Russ to not be overused. Russ is still a beast that can help you win a couple playoff series IMO, with good coaching and talent around.

Given that Billy has coached him for a while, if the Bulls went after Russ, it would have Billy's blessing, which would mean a ton. The second point is what's the cost? I wouldn't give up a pick, Zach, or Coby. Ideally, we could sweeten the deal with Houston and nab Covington too. Then there's the opportunity cost...this would likely take us completely out of the 2021 FA market; which could be ok if we thought we weren't getting anyone of note.

[Andi Obst]

Russ is still a beast that can help you win a couple playoff series IMO, with good coaching and talent around.

He has won one playoff series since 2016 (if you want to count this year's OKC series, but you probably shouldn't) with much better talent around him than he would have in Chicago. And the coach would the same guy he had for 3 out of the 4 series.

[Andi Obst]

Does this disgust you?

Aaron Gordon, Mo Bamba, 15th pick
for
Otto Porter Jr., 4th pick

Yes.

[BahamaBull]

Who says No???

BULLS: #GS 2nd overall + Andrew Wiggins + Eric Paschal

GS: Zach Lavine + Thad Young

[League Circles]

Russ is still a beast that can help you win a couple playoff series IMO, with good coaching and talent around.

He has won one playoff series since 2016 (if you want to count this year's OKC series, but you probably shouldn't) with much better talent around him than he would have in Chicago. And the coach would the same guy he had for 3 out of the 4 series.

I disagree on the talent being better, let alone much better. I'm pretty high on the talent level of Zach, Lauri and Wendell and Coby, and I wouldn't trade any of them or #4 for Russ, but I'd trade pretty much anything else.

[Andi Obst]

I disagree on the talent being better, let alone much better. I'm pretty high on the talent level of Zach, Lauri and Wendell and Coby, and I wouldn't trade any of them or #4 for Russ, but I'd trade pretty much anything else.

I'll give you the 16/17 Thunder because that was a Russ one-man-show with zero depth, but in the other years his teams were obviously much better simply due to the fact that Russ had a true co-star (actually becoming the second best player on the team) in PG and Harden. The Bulls don't have that guy. Unless you believe 16/17 Russ is still out there, which seems delusional to me, I really don't understand why you would want to get that guy, let alone pay him 47 mil at age 34.